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https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/feds-thwart-militia-plot-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer/5922301002/

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The FBI says it thwarted what it described as a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, and federal prosecutors are expected to discuss the alleged conspiracy later Thursday.

The alleged plot involved reaching out to members of a Michigan militia, according to a federal affidavit filed Thursday. 

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The court filing also alleges the conspirators twice conducted surveillance at Whitmer's personal vacation home and discussed kidnapping her to a "secure location" in Wisconsin to stand "trial" for treason prior to the Nov. 3 election.

"Several members talked about murdering 'tyrants' or 'taking' a sitting governor," an FBI agent wrote in the affidavit. "The group decided they needed to increase their numbers and encouraged each other to talk to their neighbors and spread their message."

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More than 12 people were arrested late Wednesday on state and federal charges.

"A threat against our Governor is a threat against us all," Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, R-Clarklake, tweeted Wednesday afternoon.

"We condemn those who plotted against her and our government. They are not patriots. There is no honor in their actions. They are criminals and traitors, and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."

The conspiracy described by the FBI specifically involved at least six people, including Ty Garbin, 24, whose home was raided by agents in Hartland Township late Wednesday.

The affidavit filed in federal court details probable cause to charge the six men with conspiring to kidnap Whitmer. Those identified by name include:

Adam Fox
Barry Croft
Garbin
Kaleb Franks
Daniel Harris
Brandon Caserta
Ages and hometowns for all six men were not immediately available.

The investigation dates to early 2020 when the FBI learned through social media that individuals were discussing the violent overthrow of several state governments and law enforcement.

In June, Croft, Fox and 13 others from multiple states held a meeting in Dublin, Ohio, near Columbus, according to the government.

Those present included an FBI confidential source who recorded the meetings. The source has been paid $8,600.

“The group talked about creating a society that followed the U.S. Bill of Rights and where they could be self-sufficient,” the FBI agent wrote.

“They discussed different ways of achieving this goal from peaceful endeavors to violent actions. At one point, several members talked about state governments they believed were violating the U.S. Constitution, including the government of Michigan and Governor Gretchen Whitmer.

“As part of that recruitment effort, Fox reached out to a Michigan-based militia group,” the agent added.

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The militia group is not identified in the court filing, but members periodically meet in remote areas of the state for firearms training and tactical drills.

The FBI was already tracking the militia in March after a local police department learned members were trying to obtain addresses of local law-enforcement officers, the FBI agent wrote.

“At the time, the FBI interviewed a member of the militia group who was concerned about the group’s plans to target and kill police officers, and that person agreed to become a (confidential source),” the agent wrote

In late June, Fox posted on Facebook a video in which he complained about the state’s judicial system and COVID-19 restrictions on gyms operating in Michigan.

“Fox referred to Governor Whitmer as ‘this tyrant b----,’ and stated, ‘I don’t know, boys, we gotta do something,” according to the court affidavit. “You guys link with me on our other location system, give me some ideas of what we can do.”

Whitmer's office did not immediately comment Thursday morning, but the governor is expected to deliver prepared remarks on the investigation at 3 p.m. Thursday on her Facebook and Twitter pages. 

Michigan Attorney Dana Nessel is set to join with state police, FBI officials and the U.S. attorneys from Detroit and Grand Rapids at 1 p.m. Thursday to announce "details of a major operation" and criminal charges. 

The criminal case comes after months of state restrictions on travel and business during the COVID-19 pandemic.

“The lockdown has been a lightning rod for anti-government extremists in this country, and Gov. Whitmer has been on the forefront of their targeting,” said Seamus Hughes, deputy director of George Washington University’s Program on Extremism.

In recent weeks, the state-owned Michigan governor's residence received security upgrades, including the construction of a new perimeter fence.

The "perimeter security and other safety upgrades" were planned out last year, Whitmer spokeswoman Tiffany Brown said in early September. They were scheduled to start in the early spring but were delayed until recently because of the pandemic, she said.

The cost for the "maintenance" projects at the Lansing residence, which was recommended by the Michigan State Police and the state Department of Technology, Management and Budget, was about $1.1 million, Brown said.

"As a matter of practice, we’re constantly reviewing security protocols and adjusting as needed," said Shanon Banner, spokeswoman for the Michigan State Police, in early September. "We don’t comment on specific threats against the governor nor do we provide information about security measures."

holy fucking shit, yall.

this is what happens when you have a very important political figure stoking hateful dissent. this is the fucking result.

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Just waiting for Bill Barr to step in and explain that this is just "self-defense" against Whitmer's attempts to re-institute slavery through quarantine (and NOT slavery of the right people) and that all charges will be immediately dropped.

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8 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Just read the texags thread on this.  Everyone on that thread = 

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You're not kidding. In real time, watching how regular citizens enable and abet this type of behavior through approval. Oh sure, some were "I don't condone this..." always followed by a 'but.' It is at that point (the 'but') that you've already fallen down the slope, dude.

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1 minute ago, UncleSonny said:

When does Tucker Carlson go on tv  and explain how it's no wonder the Michigan militia was forced to take matters into their own hands when the state's out of control governor refuses to uphold law and order?

In about 7 hours.

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Just now, Jive Turkey said:

Don’t worry. The President will speak about this and will calm things down. He won’t fan the flames by calling Whitmer a nasty woman. He’ll condemn these right-wing militia groups. It’s all good. 

He will offer to send in national guard to defeat the illegal militia right?

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6 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Why are we all insistent on using the term “militia” as if there is any military like order or command. These are white assholes with guns. Terrorists. It’s not like the late 1700s regular militia from Massachusetts marching against the British 

So you’re saying the second amendment might need some reinterpretation?

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I read part of the affidavit. Wow. They also discussed just assassinate and then suicide. They met in Ohio and were going to take her across state lines into Wisconsin.

One of their other gambits was to take out cops (it was a police dept that had alerted the FBI). Made me think of how some police depts instead of opposing the terrorists, already have a contingent of militia types already embedded. We are so screwed.

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24 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

F'k these people, F'k Fox, F'k Facebook, F'k Twitter, F'k the Senate and F'k Barr for all pushing for it to happen.  

Fuck Trump for saying hateful things about Whitmer and for Tweeting "LIBERATE MICHIGAN" when armed right-wing militia members stormed the Michgan Capitol. Guaranteed he won't say anything to condemn this. 

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4 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

Don’t worry. The President will speak about this and will calm things down. He won’t fan the flames by calling Whitmer a nasty woman. He’ll condemn these right-wing militia groups. It’s all good. 

"I don't know this militia, I've never heard of them. I understand they like me very much, this is something we are going to look at very strongly"

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