Abbott being Abbott

[mchookem 16765]

5 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

 

 

[StassneyHorn 6767]

6 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

 

You ate the carrotdog in your avatar and bragged about it

[Longhorn_Fan68 34102]

8 minutes ago, mchookem said:

 

he doesn't like that someone made fun of his sky daddy so he's posting tired memes to hide his own insecurity. you know, accusation/confession and whatnot

[Longhorn_Fan68 34102]

9 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

You ate the carrotdog in your avatar and bragged about it

wait, that's not a carrot?

[atomheartbevo 90636]

48 minutes ago, BearSchlong said:

It's been well documented that Ronald Reagan jumped the Republican Party into bed with the "Moral Majority" aka Evangelical Christians.  That's where all this shit started.

The whole "pro life" thing as a platform plank is only about 50 years old.  Just about when the GQP rejected compassionate politics.

And arguably Karl Rove took that group and truly weaponized them for W.  Plenty of them were pretty lukewarm about the younger Bush - he had a not-so-good reputation, but Rove managed to take them (thanks in part to the previous 8 years of the Clintons) and really hyper focus them.

[Neonmoon 38130]

45 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Yeah, there’s all kinds of crazy shit in there. Actually reading the Bible is a good way to become an atheist. 

[gmr548 16688]

As far as actually discussing the factors influencing the decision to have an abortion, seems like there are more than a few items here that people coming from different perspectives on the issue could align around addressing as a society.

Man you really thought this was a slam dunk huh

[atomheartbevo 90636]

1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

Abbott's naked reach back into the past to stymie black voters and get women back into a place where they must ask while men never must ask is a disgusting variation on the melody of Making America Great Again. 

It's not about MAGA.

Well, let me rephrase that: Abbott doesn't give a flying fuck about trying to make anything great again. Hell, deep down, for all of our flaws, he knows we never stopped actually being great.  The last year showed what a great nation can do - even with Republicans working against the American public, American companies managed to pivot their manufacturing where they could to help with the pandemic, and the American public, minus the 40%, did what they could to protect their fellow Americans. And all of this, even as our President was working against us.

No Abbott only cares about winning his next election.

He only cares about Don Huffines primarying him, and Allen West turning the state GOP and its fundraising machine against him.

This has been playing out slowly, but surely, for the last year, and it scares the shit out of Abbott that West and Co. have been laying the groundwork to boot him out of office.

It really terrifies Abbott that Huffines, West, etc. are not doing this quietly - they are shouting it from the rooftops.

[StassneyHorn 6767]

Can one of you dickheads just say you can’t get pregnant from rape already? I got about 10 insults tee’d up for you

[Longhorn_Fan68 34102]

Just now, StassneyHorn said:

Can one of you dickheads just say you can’t get pregnant from rape already? I got about 10 insults tee’d up for you

you can't get pregnant from rape if you're in a hot tub

[High Plains Drifter 11186]

5 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

Punitive for the poors.  Because the Rs who support this bill will still have access to abortions. If the daughter of one of these bill supporters gets pregnant, they’ll just fly her out to La Jolla to get an abortion, then stay at a spa for the weekend. They’ll make it an abortion vaycay. 

She won’t have to live with the consequences of her actions the way poor women will. But that’s the modern GQP in a nutshell. 

 

i though the way this law was written is that anybody, you, me, any citizen of texas can sue any other texan who gets/aids/abets/funds/performs an abortion?

Am I wrong? Anybody? What am I missing here?

[Guest Lobo]

Your mouth can't get pregnant.  Is that anything?  

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

It really terrifies Abbott that Huffines, West, etc. are not doing this quietly - they are shouting it from the rooftops.

He's already used to eating alone, he should develop a thicker skin. That's some real bootstrappin.

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3 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

you can't get pregnant from rape if you're in a hot tub

Especially if the hot tub is on a treadmill.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

42 minutes ago, mchookem said:

 

I don't know but it's kind of like art I don't always understand at a museum. Just walk on by while tilting your head like there is something wrong with your neck.

[atomheartbevo 90636]

2 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

He's already used to eating alone, he should develop a thicker skin. That's some real bootstrappin.

Career politicians like Abbott game out all kinds of scenarios for future elections - taking polls, monitoring various Republican groups, having somebody constantly surveying the political landscape to see what up-and-comers are on the horizon, staying in touch with various politicians at various levels of government to make sure they are in his corner, etc.

I'd be willing to bet that somebody coming in and turning the state GOP against Abbott was way down the list of scenarios that Abbott's people had planned for. Especially when that somebody is from Florida (and had gotten defeated by one of them librools).

But we are in the dumbest timeline.

[Anastasis 23716]

18 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Man you really thought this was a slam dunk huh

 

Not sure what you are suggesting.

 

I think I have been clear.  We should identify areas where diversity of perspective can find common ground on the topic.

 

At least of course, this is if you consider the topic any thing other than a wedge issue that can be used to score political points. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

Maybe Abbott figured as Texas was leaning a little blue that he would walk that tightrope and emerge unscathed. A party being wholly anti-democracy was something that many could see, but smart people get sucked into that orbit thinking they'll play the fascists but the fascists don't play. They purge.

[Born to Run 6601]

Raped and pregnant. What is the % of women that happens to? I took a guess, am probably wrong, but the point remains; highly improbable and too statistically insignificant to build a position or case around IMO. But even in that black swan event, I stand by abortion being murder and the right thing to do, in my opinion, is to redeem and raise the baby. I appreciate your disagreement and think you have the right and free will to raise your family as you see fit, also.

This cigar smells like a Crispy ass troll

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

Crispy Ass Trolls; didn't they play at Coachella?

[StassneyHorn 6767]

Abbott thinks he wants to be President, but keeps giving DeSantis and Noem and other players room in Texas so he could be a soft landing spot as a VP.

 

[Born to Run 6601]

Read this Donkey. https://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378(96)70141-2/abstract


A shit load of rapes cause pregnancy, but let's further traumatize women and young girls. It's already so easy as it is.

[mchookem 16765]

1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

he doesn't like that someone made fun of his sky daddy so he's posting tired memes to hide his own insecurity. you know, accusation/confession and whatnot

i mean, i get that it's a meme... but i literally have no idea what it's supposed to indicate 😝

[NameAlreadyInUse 5169]

Just now, mchookem said:

i mean, i get that it's a meme... but i literally have no idea what it's supposed to indicate 😝

It’s supposed to indicate that he’s aware of and supports the loser incels of 4chan. He’ll be posting Pepe memes within a month. 

[workswithseed 2204]

2 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

 

 

 

A rape is clearly God's will as he nudges the awesome power of birth. The Big G works in mysterious ways. Never mysterious enough to include abortion, but He'll send you straight to Hell for eternal torture. 

 

 

The disingenuous "God's will" of the gaps is so nice. If we're going biblical then Deuteronomy 22:25 should be the standard then. 

[Da Fino 2820]

i mean, i get that it's a meme... but i literally have no idea what it's supposed to indicate

I think he’s trying to make the point that people who dunk on Christianity are edgelords and basement dwellers. It’s stupid. He’s a person that’s proud of eating a carrot.

[Guest Lobo]

What's an edgelord?  Is it like that thing that South Austin's Mom does around the tip right near the finish?  

[Longhorn_Fan68 34102]

4 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

I think he’s trying to make the point that people who dunk on Christianity are edgelords and basement dwellers. It’s stupid. He’s a person that’s proud of eating a carrot.

I thought it was a sausage

[Da Fino 2820]

What's an edgelord?  Is it like that thing that South Austin's Mom does around the tip right near the finish?  

Do you actually need an answer or are you just mixing in a south Austin joke?

[Da Fino 2820]

I thought it was a sausage

I did too. Apparently it’s a carrot.

[mchookem 16765]

20 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

I think he’s trying to make the point that people who dunk on Christianity are edgelords and basement dwellers. It’s stupid. He’s a person that’s proud of eating a carrot.

ahh...thank you. at least now i get it. it's stupid, but i get it lol

 

ok...is nobody else tripping that the Bible provides instructions for how to induce an abortion?? i'm still floored 😳 

ETA: or did everybody but me already know this lol.

Edited May 21, 2021 by mchookem

[RomaVicta 30556]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

It's not about MAGA.

Well, let me rephrase that: Abbott doesn't give a flying fuck about trying to make anything great again. Hell, deep down, for all of our flaws, he knows we never stopped actually being great.  The last year showed what a great nation can do - even with Republicans working against the American public, American companies managed to pivot their manufacturing where they could to help with the pandemic, and the American public, minus the 40%, did what they could to protect their fellow Americans. And all of this, even as our President was working against us.

No Abbott only cares about winning his next election.

He only cares about Don Huffines primarying him, and Allen West turning the state GOP and its fundraising machine against him.

This has been playing out slowly, but surely, for the last year, and it scares the shit out of Abbott that West and Co. have been laying the groundwork to boot him out of office.

It really terrifies Abbott that Huffines, West, etc. are not doing this quietly - they are shouting it from the rooftops.

We are in agreement. I use MAGA ironically. It's a sugarcoated name for a poison pill.

[CooterBrown 18287]

ahh...thank you. at least now i get it. it's stupid, but i get it lol
 
ok...is nobody else tripping that the Bible provides instructions for how to induce an abortion?? i'm still floored  
ETA: or did everybody but me already know this lol.

God really loved killing kids in the Old Testament. Then he was rewritten for a softer new audience...like the two versions of Point Break.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

13 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

God really loved killing kids in the Old Testament. Then he was rewritten for a softer new audience...like the two versions of Point Break.

First you had the smitings.

Then everyone was 'bonified'.

[mdmost 43948]

21 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

God really loved killing kids in the Old Testament. Then he was rewritten for a softer new audience...like the two versions of Point Break.

Yo, Jesus! I'll see you in the next life!

[StassneyHorn 6767]

It’s a carrot, that looks like a hotdog, that everyone thought was a hotdog til he brightened the pic.

his picture is a knock off smooth brain joke, hence the helmet, and gerbil brain and other distinct facial features (calling you retarded). Here to help

[atomheartbevo 90636]

1 hour ago, StassneyHorn said:

Abbott thinks he wants to be President, but keeps giving DeSantis and Noem and other players room in Texas so he could be a soft landing spot as a VP.

Abbott can't think that far ahead at this point.  The Trumpers have declared total war on Abbott, and if they defeat him next year, his political career is over.

He's just trying to keep this from happening:

[atomheartbevo 90636]

It's very telling that Abbott is veering hard right - he absolutely has no clue how to attack Huffines and/or Allen West, or we would have seen it already, so all he can do is bitch about Biden.

And I don't even think Abbott has the balls to attack West, since West is the face of the GOP in Texas.

And West's background is plenty ripe for the attack, whether it's him moving to Texas because he couldn't win in Florida, or his military service or whatever.

Edited May 21, 2021 by atomheartbevo

[washparkhorn 9973]

A split Republican Party in Texas can cleave pretty quickly into the business boys and the populists. Dems have a chance, in many areas, if they can flip back the damage done by Phil Graham to the Party when he turned red. I like it. 

[Brisketexan 106874]

I don't think that I have proposed any burdensome policies. 

Sure you have - or at least you’ve indicated that you’re good with them. You’re a-ok with the state 1) requiring women to carry a pregnancy, and all the burden and expense thereof (which is what Abbott’s bill does) without 2) providing any material support or relief from the burden and expense it just required her to carry.

[DonkeyCigars 143]

5 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

So you're pro gun control and against the death penalty?

I'm as pro-gun as anyone else I guess, I'm one of those weird conservatives who really want to see a more liberal gun reform policy though for sure.

[Anastasis 23716]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Sure you have - or at least you’ve indicated that you’re good with them. You’re a-ok with the state 1) requiring women to carry a pregnancy, and all the burden and expense thereof (which is what Abbott’s bill does) without 2) providing any material support or relief from the burden and expense it just required her to carry.

I have not.  I have consistently suggested that we find areas where there is common ground and focus energy there.  Shouldn't be too hard for the set that chants the mantra "safe, legal, and rare". Great. I am willing to meet you there. 

[DonkeyCigars 143]

3 hours ago, Born to Run said:

Read this Donkey. https://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378(96)70141-2/abstract


A shit load of rapes cause pregnancy, but let's further traumatize women and young girls. It's already so easy as it is.

I did read this, which is where I got the 5% number that informed the 5% of the 3% of Texans who will get sexually assaulted (which doesn't even necessarily mean raped or raped in a way that can cause pregnancy)

[DonkeyCigars 143]

3 hours ago, Born to Run said:

6 hours ago, DonkeyCigars said:

Raped and pregnant. What is the % of women that happens to? I took a guess, am probably wrong, but the point remains; highly improbable and too statistically insignificant to build a position or case around IMO. But even in that black swan event, I stand by abortion being murder and the right thing to do, in my opinion, is to redeem and raise the baby. I appreciate your disagreement and think you have the right and free will to raise your family as you see fit, also.

This cigar smells like a Crispy ass troll

Ouch. Now you are getting mean and personal!

[bonnieblue 542]

What’s so great about being born? It’s like surviving the initial round of a zombie attack. A big goddamn hassle, things gradually just keep getting worse and then you die a painful death.

if you’re never born, you never have to do taxes or meet a lawyer.

[Anastasis 23716]

2 minutes ago, bonnieblue said:

if you’re never born, you never have to do taxes or meet a lawyer.

Valid point. 

[Brisketexan 106874]

I have not.  I have consistently suggested that we find areas where there is common ground and focus energy there.  Shouldn't be too hard for the set that chants the mantra "safe, legal, and rare". Great. I am willing to meet you there. 

No, absolutely nobody wants to meet us there. Not a single abortion regulation/law is genuine in that regard. It’s a divisive political stunt, and only a divisive political stunt. As evidenced by the same folks strident opposition to things that actually WOULD reduce abortion: sex ed and contraception.

It’s impossible to sincerely discuss the insincere. And you giving the topic credibility at all is embarrassing. But you do you.

[Brisketexan 106874]

I have not.  I have consistently suggested that we find areas where there is common ground and focus energy there.  Shouldn't be too hard for the set that chants the mantra "safe, legal, and rare". Great. I am willing to meet you there. 

No, absolutely nobody wants to meet us there. Not a single abortion regulation/law is genuine in that regard. It’s a divisive political stunt, and only a divisive political stunt. As evidenced by the same folks strident opposition to things that actually WOULD reduce abortion: sex ed and contraception.

It’s impossible to sincerely discuss the insincere. And you giving the topic credibility at all is embarrassing. But you do you.

[Brisketexan 106874]

Dp

[DonkeyCigars 143]

So, if we can get beyond arguing over abortion being murder or not for a minute, what are the implications and realities of this bill? Does this thing have a shot at being a law or is it just grandstanding and distraction or what?