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fuck you Greg. 

See--and right here's the thing.  Abbott thinks the statute makes him a dictator, and it just doesn't.  It gives him authority over certain things (like "ingress and egress" in the disaster area, which he used to say that localities can't close businesses).  But it doesn't say shit about face masks.

And if the statute did purport to make him a dictator, then it would be wildly unconstitutional.

And if Abbott did actually claim such dictatorial powers, then he would deserve the Caesar treatment.  Sic semper tyrannis.

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I just got a cell poll asking me about 2022 local elections.  First, did I favor incumbent HPISD school board members, then a bunch of questions about CRT and transgender rights and a bunch of other GQP hotbutton issues.

Some outfit is considering running another MTG type for HPISD.

Oh, they ain't stopping with Kellie Macatee.

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fuck you Greg. 

I seriously can't believe that these stupid fucks are going to get in front of a courtroom and argue that forbidding mask mandates falls under the powers of the Texas Disaster Act, as if forbidding mask mandates is something that a Governor would do to "guide a state through a health emergency."  

Actually I can believe it, because that courtroom will be the TxSC, and those fucking morons presiding will be nodding their empty fucking heads.  

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40 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

See--and right here's the thing.  Abbott thinks the statute makes him a dictator, and it just doesn't.  It gives him authority over certain things (like "ingress and egress" in the disaster area, which he used to say that localities can't close businesses).  But it doesn't say shit about face masks.

And if the statute did purport to make him a dictator, then it would be wildly unconstitutional.

And if Abbott did actually claim such dictatorial powers, then he would deserve the Caesar treatment.  Sic semper tyrannis.


He has the Texas Supreme Court ready to rubber stamp his dictatorship !

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I seriously can't believe that these stupid fucks are going to get in front of a courtroom and argue that forbidding mask mandates falls under the powers of the Texas Disaster Act, as if forbidding mask mandates is something that a Governor would do to "guide a state through a health emergency."  

Actually I can believe it, because that courtroom will be the TxSC, and those fucking morons presiding will be nodding their empty fucking heads.  


why wouldn’t he ?

Texas supreme court is in his pocket 

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Of all the things to die on a hill for, masks seem to be the most innocuous. I just don't get it. We all wear shoes in restaurants, we wear pants, we wear shirts etc etc

Why a mask triggers people in the midst of an airborne pandemic is beyond me. It is all about people pitching in and doing the bare fucking minimum which in this case is mask wearing and people want to litigate/fight about it. So stupid.

 

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1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

See--and right here's the thing.  Abbott thinks the statute makes him a dictator, and it just doesn't.  It gives him authority over certain things (like "ingress and egress" in the disaster area, which he used to say that localities can't close businesses).  But it doesn't say shit about face masks.

And if the statute did purport to make him a dictator, then it would be wildly unconstitutional.

And if Abbott did actually claim such dictatorial powers, then he would deserve the Caesar treatment.  Sic semper tyrannis.

56 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

I seriously can't believe that these stupid fucks are going to get in front of a courtroom and argue that forbidding mask mandates falls under the powers of the Texas Disaster Act, as if forbidding mask mandates is something that a Governor would do to "guide a state through a health emergency."  

Actually I can believe it, because that courtroom will be the TxSC, and those fucking morons presiding will be nodding their empty fucking heads.  

Abbott does not want a quick decision with TxSC.  He needs to drag this out for a very long time in the hopes that all of the schools/universities/cities/counties doing mask mandates can get the numbers down for the state and free up hospital beds.

He also needs to drag it out as long as possible to build a better a better base/case against Huffines (as in there needs to be some solid polls showing Huffines has no chance, and GOP donors need to fully back Abbott and not flirt with Huffines).  The last thing he needs is to have a knock-down drag-out (expensive) fight with Huffines.

 

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15 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

Of all the things to die on a hill for, masks seem to be the most innocuous. I just don't get it. We all wear shoes in restaurants, we wear pants, we wear shirts etc etc

Why a mask triggers people in the midst of an airborne pandemic is beyond me. It is all about people pitching in and doing the bare fucking minimum which in this case is mask wearing and people want to litigate/fight about it. So stupid.

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It’s about the evilness and appeasing Trump 

It's about keeping GOP donors behind him, and making sure that Huffines doesn't peel off enough of the MAGA crowd in next year's Republican primary to do serious damage.  Abbot wants to save as much of his war chest as he can both for the general next year, and for whatever he has planned in 2024.

This is currently Abbott's biggest opponent, and it's why Abbott is being such a fucking asshole, because Huffines does have money, does have connections, and can make life hell for Abbott.

 

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Abbott does not want a quick decision with TxSC.  He needs to drag this out for a very long time in the hopes that all of the schools/universities/cities/counties doing mask mandates can get the numbers down for the state and free up hospital beds.

He also needs to drag it out as long as possible to build a better a better base/case against Huffines (as in there needs to be some solid polls showing Huffines has no chance, and GOP donors need to fully back Abbott and not flirt with Huffines).  The last thing he needs is to have a knock-down drag-out (expensive) fight with Huffines.

 

That's a continuation of last night's premise. He welcomes the TRO. 

How long would it take to get through the courts to the TXSC? A year at the outside. When is the primary for Gov? Right about then. 

So goddamn stupid. Wearing a fucking mask is political. Sweatergawd it's dumb

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That's a continuation of last night's premise. He welcomes the TRO. 

How long would it take to get through the courts to the TXSC? A year at the outside. When is the primary for Gov? Right about then. 

I have a feeling that it could get through the courts and/or directly to the TXSC or whatever, really fast if Abbott and other Republicans wanted it too.

The irony is that he better start filing lawsuits awfully fast, because the dominoes are falling - more districts and locales and universities are starting to look at the train, if not climbing on.

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1 minute ago, Firemans4Horn said:

 

 

Fuck that horrid person. Just link the article without her awful opinion on anything.

Completely agree, but the point is that is how it's being framed "what Fox News doesn't want you to know".  They aren't sending the article directly, they are using Pierson's framing of it.

There is a serious anti-Abbott movement that is working out how to peel off the MAGA crowd, and Huffines is their guy for now (Allen West was never going to be it).

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I have a feeling that it could get through the courts and/or directly to the TXSC or whatever, really fast if Abbott and other Republicans wanted it too.

The irony is that he better start filing lawsuits awfully fast, because the dominoes are falling - more districts and locales and universities are starting to look at the train, if not climbing on.

3 months maybe at the minimum. 

Right about the time flu season kicks in?

Slow roll this til next year. Remember he actually wants the masks. Fewer dead kids. He can't admit that. He doesn't want to win too fast.

 

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21 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

3 months maybe at the minimum. 

Right about the time flu season kicks in?

Slow roll this til next year. Remember he actually wants the masks. Fewer dead kids. He can't admit that. He doesn't want to win too fast.

Fort Bend County has joined the chat, got their own TRO, and is mandating it in county buildings, schools, etc. so Fort Bend ISD has a mask mandate.

 

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These are the school districts with mask mandates (Fort Bend, Dallas, and Bexar counties mandated it for the districts)

  • Houston ISD
  • Spring ISD
  • Austin ISD
  • Dallas ISD
  • Fort Worth ISD
  • Fort Bend ISD
  • San Antonio ISD
  • North East ISD (SA)
  • Edgewood ISD (SA)
  • Harlandale ISD (SA)
  • Alamo Heights (SA)

Corpus sounds like they are about to join in, and some in the Valley and possibly El Paso

Paxton is talking about having the legislature cut funding to the school districts.

On the verge of an election year.

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These are the school districts with mask mandates (Fort Bend, Dallas, and Bexar counties mandated it for the districts)
  • Houston ISD
  • Spring ISD
  • Austin ISD
  • Dallas ISD
  • Fort Worth ISD
  • Fort Bend ISD
  • San Antonio ISD
  • North East ISD (SA)
  • Edgewood ISD (SA)
  • Harlandale ISD (SA)
  • Alamo Heights (SA)
Corpus sounds like they are about to join in, and some in the Valley and possibly El Paso
Paxton is talking about having the legislature cut funding to the school districts.
On the verge of an election year.
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Good. Make them attack our schools. One of the cornerstones of every community.

Do it, GQP. Do it. Don’t puss out. Do it.
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1 hour ago, BrazilHorn said:

Of all the things to die on a hill for, masks seem to be the most innocuous. I just don't get it. We all wear shoes in restaurants, we wear pants, we wear shirts etc etc

Whoa, whoa, whoa!  Speak for yourself, kimosabe.

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It's about keeping GOP donors behind him, and making sure that Huffines doesn't peel off enough of the MAGA crowd in next year's Republican primary to do serious damage.  Abbot wants to save as much of his war chest as he can both for the general next year, and for whatever he has planned in 2024.
This is currently Abbott's biggest opponent, and it's why Abbott is being such a fucking asshole, because Huffines does have money, does have connections, and can make life hell for Abbott.
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As much as I abhor Hot Wheels the idea of Huffines as governor is positively horrifying.
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As much as I abhor Hot Wheels the idea of Huffines as governor is positively horrifying.

And I think at this point, it’s more likely than not.

You win primaries in Texas by being the most MAGA asshole possible. Huffines wins that easily. Then, in the general, he has an R next to his name. Done deal.
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And that’s part of how Huffines ultimately wins.

No, I think she’d land much much more moderate.  Huffines is taking it to another level. I’m making an assumption there isn’t a moderate R to be found.  
 

Also, she thinks my guns cost like $50 each, so no big deal if Beto snatches up a few of them. Thanks Abbott, you cocksucker. 

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No, I think she’d land much much more moderate.  Huffines is taking it to another level. I’m making an assumption there isn’t a moderate R to be found.  
 

Also, she thinks my guns cost like $50 each, so no big deal if Beto snatches up a few of them. Thanks Abbott, you cocksucker. 

The scary thing is that relative to the primary field, Abbott is the “moderate R”. Huffines is a batshit crazy maniac

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Good. Make them attack our schools. One of the cornerstones of every community.

Do it, GQP. Do it. Don’t puss out. Do it.

I don't think Abbott has the balls to do it (Paxton has far less to lose - he's hit his ceiling, but he would be giving ammo to George P, and Paxton must absolutely remain in office if he has any chance of pushing the fraud stuff down the road).

But I would love for there to be a massive showdown that got into school financing - a few years ago, the largest districts were paying $2.1 billion to the smaller districts thanks to Robin Hood.  Would be great if we could make those smaller districts howl - Abbott would change his tune really fucking fast if the largest districts could dry up that funding to lower districts.  Those smaller/rural districts are partaking of that evil socialism, and they should stand on their own bootstraps or something.

I honestly think Paxton's comments are some kind of warning to other districts thinking about hopping on the mask bandwagon, but Paxton and Abbott don't comprehend that most school districts have to have students in seats (because of TEA fuckery with virtual stuff) and sports and other activities going, and they can't do that if students and teachers keep getting quarantined.

And before you say Abbott and Paxton don't care, they absolutely would care if they realize that a lot of school districts are going to fight this tooth-and-nail to keep their schools open and students in seats and sports going.  Can't have Friday Night Lights if the football team has positive members.

Abbott has gotten in over his head (admittedly not hard to do) and unfortunately for us, Huffines is riding his ass (also not hard to do).

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2 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Dubya told school children he was was proof that a C student could become President. 

Don't let it fool you - he used to be a fast and slick talker back in the 80s and into the early 90s, until Kent Hance and a few others showed him the error of sounding like an East Coast Ivy Leaguer.  I think his grades were a reflection of his party days.

This covers it a bit: https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/library/politics/camp/072700wh-bush-lubbock.html

But there was a YouTube video floating around, "the 10 year difference" which showed Bush debating in his first gubernatorial run, and he was a fast talker using a lot of big words, and was nailing all of this talking points with no problem, and it compared the early 90s Bush with the Presidential Bush, and you could make the case he was putting on a good ole boy act later on.  There was also a video of him (from I think the mid or later 2000s) having a few drinks in him, and he was not what you normally saw as President.  Smooth talking, etc.

The few times I was around him during the late 90s/early 2000s doing campaign stuff, he seemed pretty sharp.

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Don't let it fool you - he used to be a fast and slick talker back in the 80s and into the early 90s, until Kent Hance and a few others showed him the error of sounding like an East Coast Ivy Leaguer.  I think his grades were a reflection of his party days.

This covers it a bit: https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/library/politics/camp/072700wh-bush-lubbock.html

But there was a YouTube video floating around, "the 10 year difference" which showed Bush debating in his first gubernatorial run, and he was a fast talker using a lot of big words, and was nailing all of this talking points with no problem, and it compared the early 90s Bush with the Presidential Bush, and you could make the case he was putting on a good ole boy act later on.  There was also a video of him (from I think the mid or later 2000s) having a few drinks in him, and he was not what you normally saw as President.  Smooth talking, etc.

The few times I was around him during the late 90s/early 2000s doing campaign stuff, he seemed pretty sharp.

All the times I’ve heard him speak in public, he’s sounded like an idiot. He’s a dumb jock who’d be sweeping the factory floor if not for his family name.

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One more for the night - friend who works for somebody in the legislature, yes his boss is an (R), said that various officials/doctors have been talking to the legislature. I'm not sure if this was informal, or they were openly testifying in the legislature or on phone calls with them or what (it was a short text conversation).

He said his boss and others in the lege are very concerned about covid, even before the recent talks with doctors/officials, and they are concerned about Abbott deciding to die on this hill, because they don't want to be dragged down by Abbott in next year's election.  He said they are "considering a lot of options".  That was the end of the conversation.

I doubt he'll say much beyond that going forward, since he keeps that kind of stuff close to the vest, but I'd be curious to know if it means the legislature stepping in and doing something in regards to masks or whatever, to try and get Abbott out of the picture/let him save face and focus on other stuff.

Keep an eye out for any info/news on doctors/officials talking to legislators - I'd be curious if they did it openly, and/or what areas they are from.

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2 hours ago, GTX Horn said:

The scary thing is that relative to the primary field, Abbott is the “moderate R”. Huffines is a batshit crazy maniac

This is true. We don't want any part of Huffines.

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One more for the night - friend who works for somebody in the legislature, yes his boss is an (R), said that various officials/doctors have been talking to the legislature. I'm not sure if this was informal, or they were openly testifying in the legislature or on phone calls with them or what (it was a short text conversation).

He said his boss and others in the lege are very concerned about covid, even before the recent talks with doctors/officials, and they are concerned about Abbott deciding to die on this hill, because they don't want to be dragged down by Abbott in next year's election.  He said they are "considering a lot of options".  That was the end of the conversation.

I doubt he'll say much beyond that going forward, since he keeps that kind of stuff close to the vest, but I'd be curious to know if it means the legislature stepping in and doing something in regards to masks or whatever, to try and get Abbott out of the picture/let him save face and focus on other stuff.

Keep an eye out for any info/news on doctors/officials talking to legislators - I'd be curious if they did it openly, and/or what areas they are from.

Of course they know it's a big deal. Hell, you have to have a negative COVID test to get in to see a legislator. It's fucking crazy town. Nobody wants a shut down, especially those of us who have been vaxxed. But the cocksuckers who won't get vaxxed are walking around with no masks like colossal fucking assholes. These are the clowns spreading 95% of this.

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