Abbott being Abbott

[Francisco 2.0 32389]

 

 

[DDD Dad 14331]

6 hours ago, Born to Run said:

Is it gauche to wear my Come and Take Him Shirt Today? What if I add my Greg Abott Sucks pin?

[DDD Dad 14331]

36 minutes ago, SEC said:

what is advertising, kent, how does it work??

 

32 minutes ago, SEC said:

I can tell you that any site that has a copyright notice at the bottom and takes in private donations paid to a for-profit llc is pretty fucking awful at socialism.

sounds like you like your socialism in lemonade flavor, you neolib moron.

derp

[SEC 1174]

4 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

 

derp

 

Economics of the internet 101: If a site is free, you are the product. Surlyhorns having a privacy policy which states they own all the posts and eyes on this board to be sold to google adsense while simultaneously taking in server donations is "privatize the profit, socialize the losses" to a fucking T.

 

You guys are awful socialists, please do not ever talk about socialism again because you give us a bad wrap. Leave it to actual smart people, go back to your tens of thousands of posts about how important it is that you're a "known poster," it'll at least keep you guys from getting into trouble.

Edited August 18, 2021 by SEC

[Chad Fuck 17661]

Those aren't mortuary trailers. They're Freedom Freezers.

Goddam atom bomb here.

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41 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

West has been eerily quiet

West's and Huffines's social media teams are wise enough to let Abbott hurt himself in the public eye.

[Chad Fuck 17661]

West's and Huffines's social media teams are wise enough to let Abbott hurt himself in the public eye.

When you’re enemy is making mistakes don’t interrupt him.

[jimmyjazz 45893]

41 minutes ago, SEC said:

because you give us a bad wrap. Leave it to actual smart people, 

LMAO.

[Guest Lobo]

All he's doing is alienating his moderate, more educated voter bloc.  He thinks he's pandering to the fringes where West and Huffhines dwell.  But once he loses that first bloc (or least a massive chunk of them), it won't matter that he pandered to the other far right group because they're already encamped with the other two dipshits.  

His strategy of maintaining his current base of traditional GOP'ers and TAB types, while trying to wrangle in some further right dipshits was actually working despite the rest of us scratching our heads.  But he crossed the Rubicon in the last month.  He didn't do enough to appeal to the latter, and did enough to piss off enough of the former.  

It's 9 months until primary season though, so I wouldn't organize the deck chairs just yet.  But when his 2018 campaign finance chair says, "We have no idea what's going on anymore."..........that ain't a good sign.  Fucking Fitlump appears to be his wartime consigliere for fuck's sake.  What does that tell you? 

Edited August 19, 2021 by Lobo

[burntorangebongos 10710]

Gottdamn! SEC was a lot less annoying when he posted as BigXII. I hope this doesn't portend anything. 

[DDD Dad 14331]

 
Economics of the internet 101: If a site is free, you are the product. Surlyhorns having a privacy policy which states they own all the posts and eyes on this board to be sold to google adsense while simultaneously taking in server donations is "privatize the profit, socialize the losses" to a fucking T.
 
You guys are awful socialists, please do not ever talk about socialism again because you give us a bad wrap. Leave it to actual smart people, go back to your tens of thousands of posts about how important it is that you're a "known poster," it'll at least keep you guys from getting into trouble.

Derp

[Sawbonz 27543]

1 hour ago, StassneyHorn said:

West has been eerily quiet

He knows his fate if he gets covid

RIP

 

[tx 3 putt 76880]

7 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

part one of the finding out phase?

 

 

this cuts out the texas supreme court ?

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13 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

this cuts out the texas supreme court ?

Yep.

And there's still a lot of talk about how he didn't/couldn't suspend the Texas Education Code, which also requires a safe environment (and even mentions pandemics and vaccines).

[DDD Dad 14331]

He knows his fate if he gets covid
RIP

 

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1 hour ago, Lobo said:

All he's doing is alienating his moderate, more educated voter bloc.  He thinks he's pandering to the fringes where West and Huffhines dwell.  But once he loses that first bloc (or least a massive chunk of them), it won't matter that he pandered to the other far right group because they're already encamped with the other two dipshits.  

His strategy of maintaining his current base of traditional GOP'ers and TAB types, while trying to wrangle in some further right dipshits was actually working despite the rest of us scratching our heads.  But he crossed the Rubicon in the last month.  He didn't do enough to appeal to the latter, and did enough to piss off enough of the former.  

It's 9 months until primary season though, so I wouldn't organize the deck chairs just yet.  But when his 2018 campaign finance chair says, "We have no idea what's going on anymore."..........that ain't a good sign.  Fucking Fitlump appears to be his wartime consigliere for fuck's sake.  What does that tell you? 

On May 10th, Don Huffines officially declared his candidacy.

On May 18th, Greg Abbott put out his orders against mask mandates.

At that point in time, everything was looking better, and Abbott could afford to issue the mandate as a way to appease the right-wingers that Huffines was in danger of peeling off.  There was some grumbling, but counties and schools were willing to abide by it.

But then Delta came on strong.  Delta completely fucked his plans. Abbott could have tossed it to the counties and let them decide.  But Huffines was nipping at his heels.  So he doubled down and got Paxton on board.

 

[TexArcher 37771]

2 hours ago, SEC said:

You guys are awful socialists, please do not ever talk about socialism again because you give us a bad wrap. Leave it to actual smart people, go back to your tens of thousands of posts about how important it is that you're a "known poster," it'll at least keep you guys from getting into trouble.

You should google "comma splice," smart guy.

[burntorangebongos 10710]

49 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

He knows his fate if he gets covid

RIP

 

Huh, is this a Marco Rubio moment, Sawbonz?

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And it's not that Huffines is doing all that well in the polls or fundraising against Abbott, but Huffines knows he can't get the moderates in a contest with Abbott, so he is tapping into a group of very passionate/crazy people.

Say what you want about that fucking Mogwai, but Huffines knows how to read the room, and that his best bet is with the GQP.

[Guest Lobo]

Ben Hurman Cain Carson?  The Black Man who saved the Jews by separating the conjoined red seas and gave everyone pizza afterwards?

[Bookman 4638]

These kids aren't going to forget what Abbott did to them.

[Guest Lobo]

1 minute ago, Bookman said:

These kids aren't going to forget what Abbott did to them.

For every kid hospitalized in Texas this semester, plant an Oak Tree.  

[Updawg 2266]

All he's doing is alienating his moderate, more educated voter bloc.  He thinks he's pandering to the fringes where West and Huffhines dwell.  But once he loses that first bloc (or least a massive chunk of them), it won't matter that he pandered to the other far right group because they're already encamped with the other two dipshits.  
His strategy of maintaining his current base of traditional GOP'ers and TAB types, while trying to wrangle in some further right dipshits was actually working despite the rest of us scratching our heads.  But he crossed the Rubicon in the last month.  He didn't do enough to appeal to the latter, and did enough to piss off enough of the former.  
It's 9 months until primary season though, so I wouldn't organize the deck chairs just yet.  But when his 2018 campaign finance chair says, "We have no idea what's going on anymore."..........that ain't a good sign.  Fucking Fitlump appears to be his wartime consigliere for fuck's sake.  What does that tell you? 

Pretty much this. He should have punted shit to local gov and kept the narrative of no big gov. He owns it now

[immamac 42838]

2 hours ago, SEC said:

 

Economics of the internet 101: If a site is free, you are the product. Surlyhorns having a privacy policy which states they own all the posts and eyes on this board to be sold to google adsense while simultaneously taking in server donations is "privatize the profit, socialize the losses" to a fucking T.

 

You guys are awful socialists, please do not ever talk about socialism again because you give us a bad wrap. Leave it to actual smart people, go back to your tens of thousands of posts about how important it is that you're a "known poster," it'll at least keep you guys from getting into trouble.

No Google adsense and the ads are direct placement not programmatic cookie based bid.

Also, I'm pretty transparent about the financials of the site and don't run it for the money (surly 1%). The money goes to cool shit for the community like multiple bartabs that exceed 1k per year and tailgates that cost north of that as well. 

I'm also personally guaranteeing the 70k for the TE group. 

[Gale Snoats 242]

All he's doing is alienating his moderate, more educated voter bloc.  He thinks he's pandering to the fringes where West and Huffhines dwell.  But once he loses that first bloc (or least a massive chunk of them), it won't matter that he pandered to the other far right group because they're already encamped with the other two dipshits.  
His strategy of maintaining his current base of traditional GOP'ers and TAB types, while trying to wrangle in some further right dipshits was actually working despite the rest of us scratching our heads.  But he crossed the Rubicon in the last month.  He didn't do enough to appeal to the latter, and did enough to piss off enough of the former.  
It's 9 months until primary season though, so I wouldn't organize the deck chairs just yet.  But when his 2018 campaign finance chair says, "We have no idea what's going on anymore."..........that ain't a good sign.  Fucking Fitlump appears to be his wartime consigliere for fuck's sake.  What does that tell you? 

I agree he’s pissing off both ends of the spectrum by not being far enough on either side but isn’t the far right much more important to him (from a need to appease perspective)? Far right has potential to fuck him in the primary or with a third party nutter in the general but I think his ‘moderate, more educated voter bloc’ will go with him in the primary and the general no matter what as they’re not gonna go west or huffines and would never go D in the general. I’d love to be wrong but don’t see any chance of getting any R’s out of statewide office until the collective traditional D base gets us there by gradual growth. It’s not going to happen by the ‘moderate, more educated voter bloc’ that was willing to vote for Abbott going D. Maybe my personal feeling that I don’t want anyone who voted for Abbott crossing over in the first place bc those people are morally bankrupt and destined for hell anyway and I don’t want to win if it takes aligning with them but I just don’t see a big enough group of those folks crossing over to D in a general to matter.

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35 minutes ago, immamac said:

No Google adsense and the ads are direct placement not programmatic cookie based bid.

Also, I'm pretty transparent about the financials of the site and don't run it for the money (surly 1%). The money goes to cool shit for the community like multiple bartabs that exceed 1k per year and tailgates that cost north of that as well. 

I'm also personally guaranteeing the 70k for the TE group. 

Thanks for the beers man 

[Sawbonz 27543]

1 hour ago, burntorangebongos said:

Huh, is this a Marco Rubio moment, Sawbonz?

obviously you’ve never google image searched Herman Cain

[Hagbard Celine 10852]

11 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

I was born and raised in Missouri, and owned SRV's first three records before moving to Texas for grad school.  The world at large claims him, and I suspect most music fans would put him on the Mount Rushmore of rock guitar, likely with Hendrix, Page, and Van Halen, but others would of course be in the conversation (Clapton, May, Gilmour, Allman, Beck, Berry among others).

Texans idolize him not nearly so much because he was a Texan, but because he was an absolutely iconic, beyond-prodigious talent.  So there you go. 

the Good Doktor would have used the word 'preternatural'

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1 hour ago, Gale Snoats said:

I agree he’s pissing off both ends of the spectrum by not being far enough on either side but isn’t the far right much more important to him (from a need to appease perspective)? Far right has potential to fuck him in the primary or with a third party nutter in the general but I think his ‘moderate, more educated voter bloc’ will go with him in the primary and the general no matter what as they’re not gonna go west or huffines and would never go D in the general. .....but  I just don’t see a big enough group of those folks crossing over to D in a general to matter.

It's...complicated, and it comes down to how big he thinks these groups are, and if they will show up, because a shitload of them have not showed up in the past.

The February Fiasco and covid have pissed off a shit-ton of folks on both sides..  He is currently his own worst enemy, because all he's doing is reacting, and not being proactive and being a leader, and I don't know that he's really attracting the folks who are on the fringes and that Huffines has more of an appeal to.  Abbott looks impotent as hell right now.

Trump is not on the ticket, and he pulled a helluva lot of people into voting, who don't normally vote for one reason or another, as evidenced by a look at voting records, and by the sheer fact that a lot more people voted in 2020 vs 2016. Trump's endorsement and active campaigning in Texas is also not a guarantee of a win, as we witnessed just a few weeks ago in a Republican runoff.  

Trump pulled in 1.2 million votes in 2020 over 2016.  Biden pulled in 1.3 million votes more than Hillary did.  2.3 million voters showed up for the two parties in 2020 that weren't there in 2016 (independent parties lost a lot of votes between '16 and '20 which is why it's not 2.5 million new voters).

Trump pulled in 4,685,047 votes in 2016.  Abbott pulled in 4,656,196 votes in 2018.  A difference of about 29,000 votes.

Biden pulled in 602,000 more votes in 2020 than Abbott did in 2018.

There were 1.5 million votes in the 2018 Texas Republican primary and Abbot won 90%.  Texas has open primaries. Can Huffines pull 600,000 or so votes in the primary? I doubt it, but at the same time I think Abbott believes he has to bury Huffines now, and not risk it, and not risk Huffines showing up as MAGA in the general.

I know that's a lot of numbers, and I'd like to make sense of it all, but I'm throwing them out there to show that there are enough Democratic votes to beat Abbott, that Trump pulled in Texas voters in 2020 that didn't show up for Abbot just two years earlier, that Trump's endorsement is not necessarily a boost, etc.,

I do think Abbott should be scared shitless about those who are more center and those who don't normally vote, and that Trump is not on the ballot.  

I trust the Democrats to run a shitty candidate, but Abbot should be trying to figure out how to get that 1.2 million votes that Trump tapped into between 2016 and 2020, because they weren't there for Abbott in 2018 against a no-name candidate.

 

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Economics of the internet 101: If a site is free, you are the product. Surlyhorns having a privacy policy which states they own all the posts and eyes on this board to be sold to google adsense while simultaneously taking in server donations is "privatize the profit, socialize the losses" to a fucking T.
 
You guys are awful socialists, please do not ever talk about socialism again because you give us a bad wrap. Leave it to actual smart people, go back to your tens of thousands of posts about how important it is that you're a "known poster," it'll at least keep you guys from getting into trouble.

Why you mad tho?

[Bookman 4638]

6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I do think Abbott should be scared shitless about those who are more center and those who don't normally vote, and that Trump is not on the ballot.  

 

 

For me, Trump will be on every ballot for the foreseeable future.

[Kyrie Eleison 9312]

10 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

He knows his fate if he gets covid

RIP

 

[South Austin 52459]

6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Abbott looks impotent as hell right now.

[Bozo_Casanova 26437]

7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I trust the Democrats to run a shitty candidate,

Indeed!

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19100]

45 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Indeed!

I still cannot believe they trotted out what's her face in 2018.  I mean, come the fuck on.  

[GreenspointTexas 9598]

That new Abbott ruling against nurses in Texas is fucked up. Thought he was all about personal freedom/rights? Wtf

[Pescado_Rojo 19416]

31 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I still cannot believe they trotted out what's her face in 2018.  I mean, come the fuck on.  

Problem is there's almost no bench of statewide candidates for the TDP. Who can they trot out there other than some 2 time (or more) losers? 

[Guest Lobo]

12 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Problem is there's almost no bench of statewide candidates for the TDP. Who can they trot out there other than some 2 time (or more) losers? 

I think O'Rourke is available.  Same with Wendy Davis.

 

This would really be a good time for the Castro Brothers to nut up and get deeper into the game.  I mean, if they're ever gonna.  I backed Julian early on for 2020 Democrat POTUS nomination.  Obviously our fundraiser wasn't to really get him nominated, but just to elevate his profile and issues important to Latino/Hispanic voters who are moderates  (and can tilt R or D as we saw actually happened).  He flamed out a little faster than predicted, and has also been relatively quiet in 2021.  I thought maybe something like 2028 would be his time, but figured he'd jump back in the ruckus between now and then, so far---crickets.  

Edited August 19, 2021 by Lobo

[StassneyHorn 6575]

1. Adm McRaven. Don’t care what party he runs with

2. Scott Kelly. Twin of Mark Kelly, lot of free coverage just with that. Military Pilot, Astronaut, lives in Houston.

3. Any Castro brother. I’m inclined to think they would figure out that Beto already did the heavy lifting from previous cycles for pumping up registration numbers and turnout. The video of of one of them attempting the blue jeans and cowboy hat getup in South Texas will be more fun than watching them try and speak Spanish.

[hookemATL 11707]

4 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

1. Adm McRaven. Don’t care what party he runs with

2. Scott Kelly. Twin of Mark Kelly, lot of free coverage just with that. Military Pilot, Astronaut, lives in Houston.

3. Any Castro brother. I’m inclined to think they would figure out that Beto already did the heavy lifting from previous cycles for pumping up registration numbers and turnout. The video of of one of them attempting the blue jeans and cowboy hat getup in South Texas will be more fun than watching them try and speak Spanish.

4. Willie Nelson

5. Ghost of SRV

6. VY

 

[StassneyHorn 6575]

I don’t think the statewide candidate that breaks through for Democrats is going to be a currently elected politician is an easier way to say it

[Guest Lobo]

^

And that's fair.  Really all there is to choose from a handful of State Senators---Carol Alvarado (I think she has good name recognition), Beverly Powell, John Whitmire, Royce West, and maybe Cesar Blanco.  And then from the Texas House delegation-Castro, Allred, and maybe Cuellar (he's got a good moderate track record).  

But as you say, that's a thin bench in terms of the currently elected officials.  

I guess you could look at big city mayors...but I just think of Steve Adler and then my brain shuts off like his does.  

[Gap03 3304]

13 minutes ago, Lobo said:

^

And that's fair.  Really all there is to choose from a handful of State Senators---Carol Alvarado (I think she has good name recognition), Beverly Powell, John Whitmire, Royce West, and maybe Cesar Blanco.  And then from the Texas House delegation-Castro, Allred, and maybe Cuellar (he's got a good moderate track record).  

But as you say, that's a thin bench in terms of the currently elected officials.  

I guess you could look at big city mayors...but I just think of Steve Adler and then my brain shuts off like his does.  

I'd take Lina Hidalgo in a second, but not sure that she could pull this off at this point.

[Js1 85297]

53 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

1. Adm McRaven. Don’t care what party he runs with

2. Scott Kelly. Twin of Mark Kelly, lot of free coverage just with that. Military Pilot, Astronaut, lives in Houston.

3. Any Castro brother. I’m inclined to think they would figure out that Beto already did the heavy lifting from previous cycles for pumping up registration numbers and turnout. The video of of one of them attempting the blue jeans and cowboy hat getup in South Texas will be more fun than watching them try and speak Spanish.

Kelly should run against Cruz. 

And neither Castro has the fucking cajones to do it.  Don't count on it. 

35 minutes ago, Lobo said:

^

And that's fair.  Really all there is to choose from a handful of State Senators---Carol Alvarado (I think she has good name recognition), Beverly Powell, John Whitmire, Royce West, and maybe Cesar Blanco.  And then from the Texas House delegation-Castro, Allred, and maybe Cuellar (he's got a good moderate track record).  

But as you say, that's a thin bench in terms of the currently elected officials.  

I guess you could look at big city mayors...but I just think of Steve Adler and then my brain shuts off like his does.  

Alvarado and Whitmire are both speculated to run for Houston mayor when Turner is term limited. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13509]

17 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

How shitty of a human do you have to be to get sued by schoolchildren? Has this happened to a governor since desegregation?

The plaintiffs should incorporate as "Schoolchildren of Texas" so any court case would be "Schoolchildren of Texas vs Abbott." Never discount the power of branding to help your cause.

[tx 3 putt 76880]

im ready for mcraven or beto to make a run 

[South Austin 52459]

3 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The plaintiffs should incorporate as "Schoolchildren of Texas" so any court case would be "Schoolchildren of Texas vs Abbott." Never discount the power of branding to help your cause.

The lawsuit is styled E.T., et al. v. Governor Greg Abbott, et al.  Not bad marketing to make E.T. your named plaintiff.  Everybody loves E.T.  Everybody.

[SydneyCarton 48067]

 

12 hours ago, Gale Snoats said:

I agree he’s pissing off both ends of the spectrum by not being far enough on either side but isn’t the far right much more important to him (from a need to appease perspective)? Far right has potential to fuck him in the primary or with a third party nutter in the general but I think his ‘moderate, more educated voter bloc’ will go with him in the primary and the general no matter what as they’re not gonna go west or huffines and would never go D in the general. I’d love to be wrong but don’t see any chance of getting any R’s out of statewide office until the collective traditional D base gets us there by gradual growth. It’s not going to happen by the ‘moderate, more educated voter bloc’ that was willing to vote for Abbott going D. Maybe my personal feeling that I don’t want anyone who voted for Abbott crossing over in the first place bc those people are morally bankrupt and destined for hell anyway and I don’t want to win if it takes aligning with them but I just don’t see a big enough group of those folks crossing over to D in a general to matter.

This is some stupid fucking Texas booster and academic bullshit right here.

"I'd rather lose and have democracy crumble than have to hold my nose and stand up next to these people I hate." Take the fucking votes and move on. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33867]

16 hours ago, SEC said:

And you feel you're important because your old ass writes two-dollar checks to the third spin off site for ut football rabble rousing, because that's simultaneously your measure of success and wealth, per your own admission.

 

16 hours ago, SEC said:

what is advertising, kent, how does it work??

 

16 hours ago, SEC said:

I can tell you that any site that has a copyright notice at the bottom and takes in private donations paid to a for-profit llc is pretty fucking awful at socialism.

sounds like you like your socialism in lemonade flavor, you neolib moron.

thanks to people like me your dumb ass gets to post on this site for free and call me lots of awesome names. way to show your ass for all to see. please wipe it.

[Bozo_Casanova 26437]

3 hours ago, Lobo said:

I think O'Rourke is available.  Same with Wendy Davis.

Stahp

2 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

1. Adm McRaven. Don’t care what party he runs with

2. Scott Kelly. Twin of Mark Kelly, lot of free coverage just with that. Military Pilot, Astronaut, lives in Houston.

3. Any Castro brother. I’m inclined to think they would figure out that Beto already did the heavy lifting from previous cycles for pumping up registration numbers and turnout. The video of of one of them attempting the blue jeans and cowboy hat getup in South Texas will be more fun than watching them try and speak Spanish.

 

2 hours ago, hookemATL said:

4. Willie Nelson

5. Ghost of SRV

6. VY

 

7. Glen Campbell