Abbott being Abbott

[Bookman 4,754]

8 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

No shit. Who gives a fuck if she’s not any good. She doesn’t support the murder of children, or the downfall of democracy 

I'm not saying anything about her personally. She never had a chance and she never campaigned. If I were a political party, my basic strategy would be to nominate someone who has a chance and then spend time campaigning.

 

[Beau Vine 55,816]

8 hours ago, F250 said:

lulz you really think running "Well, he is not as shitty as Donald Trump" is a winning strategy?

 

80M+ people didn't vote for Biden because they loved him.

[F250 29,171]

1 hour ago, Beau Vine said:

80M+ people didn't vote for Biden because they loved him.

Well apparently that didn't work out for Lupe. Maybe if she had been the former V.P. and actually campaigned it would have worked.

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,407]

5 hours ago, F250 said:

Well apparently that didn't work out for Lupe. Maybe if she had been the former V.P. and actually campaigned it would have worked.

 

Abbott wasn’t nearly as controversial back then as he is now.  Based on the stupidity of this state I expect his new found shitiness to lead to a bigger margin of victory this time around. 

[Brisketexan 106,615]

Abbott wasn’t nearly as controversial back then as he is now.  Based on the stupidity of this state I expect his new found shitiness to lead to a bigger margin of victory this time around. 

FN gets it.

[HenryJames 67,115]

53 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Abbott wasn’t nearly as controversial back then as he is now.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,279]

 

 

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Say it again. But louder. Say it 10,000 times. Maybe a million.

[gmr548 16,681]

It would help if Democrats would nominate someone other than Lupe Valdez.

No, I don’t think it would have. Because in that same election, the most reviled figure in Texas politics at the time, Ted Cruz (Abbott may have something to say about that now), defeated the best Democratic statewide campaign in the 21st century in an extremely Democratic year, by over 200k votes.

Texas has shown us what it is. The turnout in 2018 and 2020 is a more than big enough sample size to make that conclusion.

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11 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

No, I don’t think it would have. Because in that same election, the most reviled figure in Texas politics at the time, Ted Cruz (Abbott may have something to say about that now), defeated the best Democratic statewide campaign in the 21st century in an extremely Democratic year, by over 200k votes.

Texas has shown us what it is. The turnout in 2018 and 2020 is a more than big enough sample size to make that conclusion.

Demographics are still changing. And I bet a sizeable chuck of Cruz voters died of old age and/or COVID.

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the people who've been angry since the 1970s about the federal government spending money on schools now wanting the feds to spend billions on schools

 

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[TexEx15 17,912]

Great fucking line. 

 

[Satchel 6,982]

1 hour ago, chainsaw said:

Demographics are still changing. And I bet a sizeable chuck of Cruz voters died of old age and/or COVID.

Now knowing what it feels to be the laughing stock of the nation, I don’t think these transplants will make the same mistake again. If the Dem turnout is good, Ironsides could be in trouble:

A CNN exit poll showed O'Rourke beat Cruz among native Texans, 51-48 percent. In contrast, 57 percent of people who had moved to Texas said they voted for Cruz, compared to 42 percent for O'Rourke.

[A-Tex Devil 2,492]

1 hour ago, TexEx15 said:

Great fucking line. 

 

Yeah, Greg, you’ve explained each tree.  But the fucking forest is burning.  

[Pato del Muerto 53,329]

1 hour ago, Satchel said:

Now knowing what it feels to be the laughing stock of the nation, I don’t think these transplants will make the same mistake again. If the Dem turnout is good, Ironsides could be in trouble:

A CNN exit poll showed O'Rourke beat Cruz among native Texans, 51-48 percent. In contrast, 57 percent of people who had moved to Texas said they voted for Cruz, compared to 42 percent for O'Rourke.

That doesn’t sound right. All the people moving in are commies from California, or illegal commies from Mexico. 

[Satchel 6,982]

8 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

That doesn’t sound right. All the people moving in are commies from California, or illegal commies from Mexico. 

Lol, yeah, well…

[Blotto 23,974]

time to start the Huffines for Gov (independent) rumors. I doubt it would be that difficult too convince that little  egomaniac to do it, and within a week every aggy in the state would be onboard. 

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4 hours ago, Satchel said:

Now knowing what it feels to be the laughing stock of the nation, I don’t think these transplants will make the same mistake again. If the Dem turnout is good, Ironsides could be in trouble:

A CNN exit poll showed O'Rourke beat Cruz among native Texans, 51-48 percent. In contrast, 57 percent of people who had moved to Texas said they voted for Cruz, compared to 42 percent for O'Rourke.

I believe it’s a real phenomenon that a lot of people who voted for Trump are ashamed to admit that they support him and that he appeals to them so it skews the polling data. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26,773]

10 hours ago, gmr548 said:

No, I don’t think it would have. Because in that same election, the most reviled figure in Texas politics at the time, Ted Cruz (Abbott may have something to say about that now), defeated the best Democratic statewide campaign in the 21st century in an extremely Democratic year, by over 200k votes.

Texas has shown us what it is. The turnout in 2018 and 2020 is a more than big enough sample size to make that conclusion.

Nah, it’s two problems

1) Texas Democrats have institutionalized failure and 

2) Beto isn’t and wasn’t a good candidate for statewide office and his solipsism and lack of empathy cost him the Senate race and will likely Make Abbott Governor Again. 

Texas is there for the taking and has been since 2012 or so, but Democrats keep waiting for Republicans lose rather than assemble a winning coalition.

Edited May 29, 2022 by Bozo_Casanova

[TwiceHorn 31,984]

8 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Nah, it’s two problems

1) Texas Democrats have institutionalized failure and 

2) Beto isn’t and wasn’t a good candidate for statewide office and his solipsism and lack of empathy cost him the Senate race and will likely Make Abbott Governor Again. 

Texas is there for the taking and has been since 2012 or so, but Democrats keep waiting for Republicans lose rather than assemble a winning coalition.

Fair points.  But what about Cruz' solipsism and lack of empathy?

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10 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Nah, it’s two problems

1) Texas Democrats have institutionalized failure and 

2) Beto isn’t and wasn’t a good candidate for statewide office and his solipsism and lack of empathy cost him the Senate race and will likely Make Abbott Governor Again. 

Texas is there for the taking and has been since 2012 or so, but Democrats keep waiting for Republicans lose rather than assemble a winning coalition.

Sorry, you are going to have to give concrete examples of Beto's solipsism anf lack of empathy.  If anything, I get the impressions he is the only candidate with empathy.

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[Sawbonz 28,081]

Has there been a gov race poll since the Uvalde massacre?

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Just now, Sawbonz said:

Has there been a gov race poll since the Uvalde massacre?

If so, I’m afraid to see that.

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Nah, it’s two problems
1) Texas Democrats have institutionalized failure and 
2) Beto isn’t and wasn’t a good candidate for statewide office and his solipsism and lack of empathy cost him the Senate race and will likely Make Abbott Governor Again. 
Texas is there for the taking, but Democrats keep waiting for Republicans lose rather than assemble a winning coalition.

1.) Absolutely, and the previously mentioned Lupe Valdez is a shining example of that, but O’Rourke’s campaign largely went its own way in terms of organizing and fundraising.

2.) Beto was as good a statewide candidate as any in 2018, when the political climate was very favorable to Democrats and he had the opportunity to set the narrative about himself. I agree he’s damaged goods to an extent now, after the mess of a presidential campaign and heading into a Republican leaning year.

I had to look up the word “solipsism,” so +rep for that. What a specifically are you referring to in terms of solipsism and lack of empathy costing him the election? Perhaps I’m missing your point, but the idea that Greg Abbott is going to win this election because the other candidate lacks empathy is tough for me to buy given his track record, and especially in light of Uvalde.

I think he could he/his campaign could have done more in South Texas when he ran for Senate, but ultimately it’s hard to get past the simple partisan math.

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The idea of “real Texans” makes me ragey as fuck.

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9 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Has there been a gov race poll since the Uvalde massacre?

A Door 38%
Abbott 34%
O’Rourke 28%

[Chooky 13,337]

The door just has that "it" factor. 

[SizzleChest 8,302]

8 minutes ago, Chooky said:

The door just has that "it" factor. 

It just has a hole instead of a knob.  Screams potential.

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8 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

That doesn’t sound right. All the people moving in are commies from California, or illegal commies from Mexico. 

   Them red Cali peeps moving here to escape the commies in their state. Their are plenty-O rightwingers in the state with the bear on the flag.

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41 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Fair points.  But what about Cruz' solipsism and lack of empathy?

That actually works to his advantage with the Republican voters

[Bozo_Casanova 26,773]

47 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Fair points.  But what about Cruz' solipsism and lack of empathy?

For Cruz voters, being an asshole is the point. 

44 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Sorry, you are going to have to give concrete examples of Beto's solipsism anf lack of empathy.  If anything, I get the impressions he is the only candidate with empathy.

I hear you, see below

39 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

1.) Absolutely, and the previously mentioned Lupe Valdez is a shining example of that, but O’Rourke’s campaign largely went its own way in terms of organizing and fundraising.

2.) Beto was as good a statewide candidate as any in 2018, when the political climate was very favorable to Democrats and he had the opportunity to set the narrative about himself. I agree he’s damaged goods to an extent now, after the mess of a presidential campaign and heading into a Republican leaning year.

I had to look up the word “solipsism,” so +rep for that. What a specifically are you referring to in terms of solipsism and lack of empathy costing him the election? Perhaps I’m missing your point, but the idea that Greg Abbott is going to win this election because the other candidate lacks empathy is tough for me to buy given his track record, and especially in light of Uvalde.

I think he could he/his campaign could have done more in South Texas when he ran for Senate, but ultimately it’s hard to get past the simple partisan math.

First, you're making a great point about his 2018 campaign going it's own way - it's why he caught fire early, but ultimately he weighed the campaign down. And now as the standard bearer he's going through a well-established process of assisted suicide facilitated by the TDP's Failure-Industrial Complex.

So - about his flaws. Beto O'Rourke DID have the opportunity to set the narrative, similar to what Obama did in 2008 and what Trump had in 2016 (not great as analogies, but handy as well known examples), and whereas Obama made his campaign about this wonderful blank slate of Hope and Change that anybody could project whatever on and Trump had this thematic call to action around Making America Great Again that has literally motivated people to organize boat parades, Beto made his campaign theme ... Beto. And so Beto spent the second half of his 2018 on this apology tour about his personal journey through a life of privilege, the luxury of his wife having the time to raise the kids, etc. It probably didn't cost him votes, but the opportunity cost was not staking out a clear thematic "why" for his coalition, or make it about their role as supporters  and the outcome for them as individuals.  He repeatedly kept his hands clean and refused to go for Cruz's throat on stage at debates. Instead, he made it about him, just as he made his presidential campaign about him. It's always been about Beto and his personal journey. 
 

People misunderstand what empathy is. Empathy is the ability to understand the feelings of another person. Penn Gillette talks about how magicians have to have the empathy to see through the eyes of another person and accept what they see is real for them. Abbott has that (or at least is well advised on how to look like he does), and Beto doesn't really.  Take the video of Beto confronting Abbott. The story played well enough, but it wasn't the BIG MOMENT that it could have been, and here's why - Beto comes from the through the video from the center, with his back to the camera, and is speaking while looking up, and Greg Abbott and Patrick don't respond. We can't hear Beto, and we can't see his face.  Instead, he is shouted down by the Uvalde mayor (framing the mayor as his opponent, not Abbott), and the last words we hear are the Mayor calling him a sick SOB while he's escorted  out. It's terrible optics.  What he should have done was come up the right hand aisle  and cheated out 1/4 turn so the cameras on the left would see him and Abbott in profile while he points his finger and the microphones could pick up what he was saying and get a good video and still image. 
And while you could say he didn't want to mug for the cameras or was being authentic, that's really the problem - he's literally crashing a press conference and SHOULD exactly mug for the cameras and sell the moment as hard as he can. If you are trying to play to an audience and won't do the basics to help them see or hear you, it's because you don't care. 

Edited May 29, 2022 by Bozo_Casanova

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[CooterBrown 18,272]

Bozo is the first person in history to refer to Abbott as empathetic.

[Pato del Muerto 53,329]

59 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

A Door 38%
Abbott 34%
O’Rourke 28%

38% of respondents thought they were marking that they adore Abbott. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26,773]

10 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Bozo is the first person in history to refer to Abbott as empathetic.

I don’t know what’s inside but he demonstrates empathy. Empathy is not sympathy. 

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1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I don’t know what’s inside but he demonstrates empathy. Empathy is not sympathy. 

He in no way shows the ability to understand the feelings of another person. In fact, he comes off as just the opposite.

[Bozo_Casanova 26,773]

7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

He in no way shows the ability to understand the feelings of another person. In fact, he comes off as just the opposite.

Talk to some Tias and MeeMaws and get back to me 

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13 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Talk to some Tias and MeeMaws and get back to me 

Tias are more reachable after the Uvalde massacre. Abbott's Texas is not their standard. MeeMaws are a different story; they raise fat cowards. 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,407]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Take the video of Beto confronting Abbott. The story played well enough, but it wasn't the BIG MOMENT that it could have been, and here's why - Beto comes from the through the video from the center, with his back to the camera, and is speaking while looking up, and Greg Abbott and Patrick don't respond. We can't hear Beto, and we can't see his face.  Instead, he is shouted down by the Uvalde mayor (framing the mayor as his opponent, not Abbott), and the last words we hear are the Mayor calling him a sick SOB while he's escorted  out. It's terrible optics.  What he should have done was come up the right hand aisle  and cheated out 1/4 turn so the cameras on the left would see him and Abbott in profile while he points his finger and the microphones could pick up what he was saying and get a good video and still image. 
And while you could say he didn't want to mug for the cameras or was being authentic, that's really the problem - he's literally crashing a press conference and SHOULD exactly mug for the cameras and sell the moment as hard as he can. If you are trying to play to an audience and won't do the basics to help them see or hear you, it's because you don't care. 

This is a terrible post and you should feel bad for posting it.

Should he have set up some mood lighting and maybe had some dark and ominous walk up music playing in the background as well?

[Covri 6,366]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

For Cruz voters, being an asshole is the point. 

I hear you, see below

First, you're making a great point about his 2018 campaign going it's own way - it's why he caught fire early, but ultimately he weighed the campaign down. And now as the standard bearer he's going through a well-established process of assisted suicide facilitated by the TDP's Failure-Industrial Complex.

So - about his flaws. Beto O'Rourke DID have the opportunity to set the narrative, similar to what Obama did in 2008 and what Trump had in 2016 (not great as analogies, but handy as well known examples), and whereas Obama made his campaign about this wonderful blank slate of Hope and Change that anybody could project whatever on and Trump had this thematic call to action around Making America Great Again that has literally motivated people to organize boat parades, Beto made his campaign theme ... Beto. And so Beto spent the second half of his 2018 on this apology tour about his personal journey through a life of privilege, the luxury of his wife having the time to raise the kids, etc. It probably didn't cost him votes, but the opportunity cost was not staking out a clear thematic "why" for his coalition, or make it about their role as supporters  and the outcome for them as individuals.  He repeatedly kept his hands clean and refused to go for Cruz's throat on stage at debates. Instead, he made it about him, just as he made his presidential campaign about him. It's always been about Beto and his personal journey. 
 

People misunderstand what empathy is. Empathy is the ability to understand the feelings of another person. Penn Gillette talks about how magicians have to have the empathy to see through the eyes of another person and accept what they see is real for them. Abbott has that (or at least is well advised on how to look like he does), and Beto doesn't really.  Take the video of Beto confronting Abbott. The story played well enough, but it wasn't the BIG MOMENT that it could have been, and here's why - Beto comes from the through the video from the center, with his back to the camera, and is speaking while looking up, and Greg Abbott and Patrick don't respond. We can't hear Beto, and we can't see his face.  Instead, he is shouted down by the Uvalde mayor (framing the mayor as his opponent, not Abbott), and the last words we hear are the Mayor calling him a sick SOB while he's escorted  out. It's terrible optics.  What he should have done was come up the right hand aisle  and cheated out 1/4 turn so the cameras on the left would see him and Abbott in profile while he points his finger and the microphones could pick up what he was saying and get a good video and still image. 
And while you could say he didn't want to mug for the cameras or was being authentic, that's really the problem - he's literally crashing a press conference and SHOULD exactly mug for the cameras and sell the moment as hard as he can. If you are trying to play to an audience and won't do the basics to help them see or hear you, it's because you don't care. 

No offense, but this is stupid fucking take, Bozo.

[Radical Larry 28,814]

This is a terrible post and you should feel bad for posting it.
Should he have set up some mood lighting and maybe had some dark and ominous walk up music playing in the background as well?

BAH GAWD THAT’S BETO’S MUSIC!!!

[Sawbonz 28,081]

1 hour ago, SizzleChest said:

It just has a hole instead of a knob.  Screams potential.

I must say I do prefer holes to knobs 

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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

For Cruz voters, being an asshole is the point. 

I hear you, see below

First, you're making a great point about his 2018 campaign going it's own way - it's why he caught fire early, but ultimately he weighed the campaign down. And now as the standard bearer he's going through a well-established process of assisted suicide facilitated by the TDP's Failure-Industrial Complex.

So - about his flaws. Beto O'Rourke DID have the opportunity to set the narrative, similar to what Obama did in 2008 and what Trump had in 2016 (not great as analogies, but handy as well known examples), and whereas Obama made his campaign about this wonderful blank slate of Hope and Change that anybody could project whatever on and Trump had this thematic call to action around Making America Great Again that has literally motivated people to organize boat parades, Beto made his campaign theme ... Beto. And so Beto spent the second half of his 2018 on this apology tour about his personal journey through a life of privilege, the luxury of his wife having the time to raise the kids, etc. It probably didn't cost him votes, but the opportunity cost was not staking out a clear thematic "why" for his coalition, or make it about their role as supporters  and the outcome for them as individuals.  He repeatedly kept his hands clean and refused to go for Cruz's throat on stage at debates. Instead, he made it about him, just as he made his presidential campaign about him. It's always been about Beto and his personal journey. 
 

People misunderstand what empathy is. Empathy is the ability to understand the feelings of another person. Penn Gillette talks about how magicians have to have the empathy to see through the eyes of another person and accept what they see is real for them. Abbott has that (or at least is well advised on how to look like he does), and Beto doesn't really.  Take the video of Beto confronting Abbott. The story played well enough, but it wasn't the BIG MOMENT that it could have been, and here's why - Beto comes from the through the video from the center, with his back to the camera, and is speaking while looking up, and Greg Abbott and Patrick don't respond. We can't hear Beto, and we can't see his face.  Instead, he is shouted down by the Uvalde mayor (framing the mayor as his opponent, not Abbott), and the last words we hear are the Mayor calling him a sick SOB while he's escorted  out. It's terrible optics.  What he should have done was come up the right hand aisle  and cheated out 1/4 turn so the cameras on the left would see him and Abbott in profile while he points his finger and the microphones could pick up what he was saying and get a good video and still image. 
And while you could say he didn't want to mug for the cameras or was being authentic, that's really the problem - he's literally crashing a press conference and SHOULD exactly mug for the cameras and sell the moment as hard as he can. If you are trying to play to an audience and won't do the basics to help them see or hear you, it's because you don't care. 

So make it about Beto, but don’t make it about Beto. Got it.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,706]

11 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

Great fucking line. 

 

To listen to Abbott talk about any Texas problem (real or not), you would think that he’s the opposition candidate and not the governor for 7 years. And part of the governing party/leadership for 26 years.

how long does he have to continue to fail but we will keep electing him? Unfortunately I know the answer to that question. He looks and talks the part of what many white Texans think a governor should be.

[Longhorn_Fan68 34,078]

20 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

To listen to Abbott talk about any Texas problem (real or not), you would think that he’s the opposition candidate and not the governor for 7 years. And part of the governing party/leadership for 26 years.

how long does he have to continue to fail but we will keep electing him? Unfortunately I know the answer to that question. He looks and talks the part of what many white Texans think a governor should be.

reminds me of how during dotard's second campaign he continually pointed to Biden as the reason for all of the problems in the county while not acknowledging that Biden was in fact, not yet President. It's like he was saying, "Hire me again so I can fix all the problems I created!". No doubt Abbott has adopted that tactic.

[StassneyHorn 6,755]

Why Beto didn’t have glass shattering music playing in the background and send the Texas Rattlesnake out there to stun the entire row of statewide leaders is symptomatic of the hubris he has shown throughout his career. If he simply reversed decades of neglect by one party in one cycle he would’ve easily been a hero, but has embarrassingly flamed out worse than anybody ever expected. I’ve personally seen Abbott hurricarrana his opponents over the top rope while projecting empathy to his ringside partner, and for that Abbott by 11.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,706]

38 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

reminds me of how during dotard's second campaign he continually pointed to Biden as the reason for all of the problems in the county while not acknowledging that Biden was in fact, not yet President. It's like he was saying, "Hire me again so I can fix all the problems I created!". No doubt Abbott has adopted that tactic.

In fairness for Abbott, it’s the Texas Legislature is that is preventing a GOP agenda from being passed. 🙄

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18 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Abbott wasn’t nearly as controversial back then as he is now.  Based on the stupidity of this state I expect his new found shitiness to lead to a bigger margin of victory this time around. 

10 hours ago, Blotto said:

time to start the Huffines for Gov (independent) rumors. I doubt it would be that difficult too convince that little  egomaniac to do it, and within a week every aggy in the state would be onboard. 

The fact that Abbott canceled his NRA appearance, as did Crenshaw and Patrick, is huge. And then Trump made sure and gave him shit about it at the convention during Trump’s speech.  Abbott had to shit a brick about that, since he’s trying to pretend to have some sympathy for the families, but he’s trying to outdo Trump and DeSantis in other areas.