Abbott being Abbott

[4th&Five 41537]

[Guest Lobo]

BERT MER FREEDERMS! 

[elfenix 34238]

didn't this fucker mandate private business from having vaccine passports?

Edited September 10, 2021 by elfenix
greg definitely does not fuck

[Brisketexan 105123]

didn't this fucker mandate private business from having vaccine passports?

Yep.

Anytime a GQP tells you they they are against the government telling businesses what they can/can’t do, they’re lying. It’s what they do.

[mchookem 16334]

4 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

right to choose, what a fuckstick

 it's not a vaccine mandate you ignorant manwhore. 

vaccination OR get tested every week. 

just go DIAF 🤬 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13585]

28 minutes ago, mchookem said:

 it's not a vaccine mandate you ignorant manwhore. 

vaccination OR get tested every week. 

just go DIAF 🤬 

"Well, can we look to see if you're infected?"

 

[JimmyJames 12271]

Abbot is just a tree hating clown. And I usually like trees. 

[tx 3 putt 76936]

did his law school feel sorry for him and just gave him his degree ?

[Bookman 4639]

So has he stopped rape yet?

[Captainant 27661]

13 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

right to choose, what a fuckstick

What a hollow fucking statement. Bidens order does leave available the option to not get vaxxed - you just have to prove that you aren't spreading plague with weekly tests. Seems pretty reasonable. And the vaccine mandate with threat of a fine as enforcement is a 7-2 affirmative precedent from the supreme court

[4th&Five 41537]

I just love how he has the (useless) balls to say “right to choose” this week. Roll into 35 traffic, asshole. 

[Js1 85325]

Precedent? Hahaha I’d be completely not shocked if that gets overturned 5-4 soon 

[brakeman 28363]

[jimmyjazz 45920]

Famous yet useless Gregs in American history:

 

[JimmyJames 12271]

5 hours ago, Bookman said:

So has he stopped rape yet?

Well ever since abbot made his “no mo rape” proclamation I haven’t even gotten close to being raped. So maybe it worked? 

[Guest Lobo]

Yeah, I'm on day #3 of not being raped.  If he has that kind of sweeping power, why not just declare "There'll be no more illegal immigrants at our Southern Border, we will eliminate them."  Or why not eliminate paralysis while you're at it?  

Obviously many on this board will see Grieder's announcement about Solugen and think, "Meh, some tiny little company is leaving...who cares?"  It just raised $350mm in Series C, worth almost a quarter billion easily, 100 employees and growing quickly.  That's not Exxon-Mobil, but it's not nothing.  This is just in week 1.  Hundreds of companies will follow and we will feel the squeeze.  And she's no flaming progressive.  She's a Longhorn and former Republican.  

Trump proved that you can no longer both appease Big Business & Big Stupid at the same time.  

Edited September 10, 2021 by Lobo

[Fudge Nuggets 19190]

Raised $350MM but worth not quite $250MM. Man, investors will be beating down their door for that kind of return.

[Guest Lobo]

I saw in a pitch book article (the VC publication, Not the item) that they were close to $25mm in revenue and close of year.  Going off a 10x multiple, crazy for their industry but not at all unheard of.  I know there’s more to the valuation than just that but it was quick and dirty enough for me to quote ‘almost quarter billion’.  
 

anyway, it’s the number I’m using to shout at Abbott enablers who think this’ll have no blowback on our economy.  
 

I suspect we’ll have so many of these by month’s end, we’ll be talking in tens of billions.  Enough to buy a horse farm and deworm it. 

[Satchel 6938]

6 hours ago, Captainant said:

What a hollow fucking statement. Bidens order does leave available the option to not get vaxxed - you just have to prove that you aren't spreading plague with weekly tests. Seems pretty reasonable. And the vaccine mandate with threat of a fine as enforcement is a 7-2 affirmative precedent from the supreme court

Isn’t is gratifying to know that we had such a hardened partisan serving on the Texas Supreme Court?

[pacman 7355]

For a guy, living off a lawsuit, who ran on tort reform, Abbott sure is into enabling people to sue these days.

[atomheartbevo 89659]

On a side note, or maybe not that much of a side note, a friend who works for one of the legislators - she swears up and down that they didn't intend for this to sail through the Supreme Court in the manner that it did.  She said they only intended to throw some red meat to the evangelicals, do the whole "we put up a hard fight, but the pro-abortion crowd defeated us, so now we need more money to continue the fight next year!". She said there is concern over blowback.

My response was "the Republicans did what the Democrats usually can't do consistently - unified the Democrats and moderates, so props to the Republicans?"

Edit: the higher-ups/etc. that crafted the legislation obviously put in the homework to get it to that level, but it was sold to her boss as "just some more red meat for the evangelicals" and not "you're going to have to defend this next year, good luck with that!"

Edited September 10, 2021 by atomheartbevo

[jimmyjazz 45920]

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

She said there is concern over blowback.

You mean like all those milfy suburban "conservatives" who are now spitting mad?  Yeah, they should be concerned.

[Js1 85325]

3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

On a side note, or maybe not that much of a side note, a friend who works for one of the legislators - she swears up and down that they didn't intend for this to sail through the Supreme Court in the manner that it did.  She said they only intended to throw some red meat to the evangelicals, do the whole "we put up a hard fight, but the pro-abortion crowd defeated us, so now we need more money to continue the fight next year!". She said there is concern over blowback.

My response was "the Republicans did what the Democrats usually can't do consistently - unified the Democrats and moderates, so props to the Republicans?"

No offense to your friend, but bullshit.

Unless she slept through the past 5 years, she knows the courts were packed by Trump/McConnell with judges favorable to this.   The 5th Circuit, SCOTUS....come on now. 

Texas GOP relying on the courts packed with FedSoc judges to scuttle their own draconian abortion law...

Edited September 10, 2021 by Js1

[pacman 7355]

17 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

On a side note, or maybe not that much of a side note, a friend who works for one of the legislators - she swears up and down that they didn't intend for this to sail through the Supreme Court in the manner that it did.  She said they only intended to throw some red meat to the evangelicals, do the whole "we put up a hard fight, but the pro-abortion crowd defeated us, so now we need more money to continue the fight next year!". She said there is concern over blowback.

My response was "the Republicans did what the Democrats usually can't do consistently - unified the Democrats and moderates, so props to the Republicans?"

Edit: the higher-ups/etc. that crafted the legislation obviously put in the homework to get it to that level, but it was sold to her boss as "just some more red meat for the evangelicals" and not "you're going to have to defend this next year, good luck with that!"

Oh yeah, they absolutely expected the Supremes to knock this down. They didn't have the foresight to consider the risk of it not being struck down.

They are idiots. Don't give them so much credit to think they would have gamed out all the possible directions.

For one, and chief concern, they have just incentivized the populace to out the high level Republicans amongst them who routinely participate in abortions. Money can easily trump party candidate loyalty.

Edited September 10, 2021 by pacman

[tx 3 putt 76936]

21 minutes ago, pacman said:

For a guy, living off a lawsuit, who ran on tort reform, Abbott sure is into enabling people to sue these days.

 

dildo on wheels made sure that texans can't abuse the court system like he did 

 

fuck that douche 

[Sawbonz 27555]

28 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

On a side note, or maybe not that much of a side note, a friend who works for one of the legislators - she swears up and down that they didn't intend for this to sail through the Supreme Court in the manner that it did.  She said they only intended to throw some red meat to the evangelicals, do the whole "we put up a hard fight, but the pro-abortion crowd defeated us, so now we need more money to continue the fight next year!". She said there is concern over blowback.

Something about face eating leopards

[Longhorn_Fan68 33869]

33 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

On a side note, or maybe not that much of a side note, a friend who works for one of the legislators - she swears up and down that they didn't intend for this to sail through the Supreme Court in the manner that it did.  She said they only intended to throw some red meat to the evangelicals, do the whole "we put up a hard fight, but the pro-abortion crowd defeated us, so now we need more money to continue the fight next year!". She said there is concern over blowback.

My response was "the Republicans did what the Democrats usually can't do consistently - unified the Democrats and moderates, so props to the Republicans?"

Edit: the higher-ups/etc. that crafted the legislation obviously put in the homework to get it to that level, but it was sold to her boss as "just some more red meat for the evangelicals" and not "you're going to have to defend this next year, good luck with that!"

[Pescado_Rojo 19416]

40 minutes ago, pacman said:

Oh yeah, they absolutely expected the Supremes to knock this down. They didn't have the foresight to consider the risk of it not being struck down.

They are idiots. Don't give them so much credit to think they would have gamed out all the possible directions.

For one, and chief concern, they have just incentivized the populace to out the high level Republicans amongst them who routinely participate in abortions. Money can easily trump party candidate loyalty.

I posted this in the abortion thread, but it fits here, too. 

Republicans just broke their golden rule

Quote

A dirty secret sits beneath Republicans’ muted response to Texas’ new abortion ban. Republican posturing on abortion has always been premised on the fact that Roe was unassailable. Taking the most extreme and unpopular position on reproductive rights was a free ride because that dog could never catch the car. Now a frothing mob of theocrats in the Texas Legislature has wrecked the silent bargain at the root of Republican power. There will be hell to pay.

Quote

How do Republicans continue to win after the grifters and racists no longer feel safe from the religious nuts? What happens to the Republican Party if the harassing, abusive, often destructive policies they impose on minority communities are equally applied to their own white donors? Thanks to a terrible miscalculation by Texas Legislators, we’re about to find out.

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

It may have been on this forum or perhaps I heard it on the radio as my attention has been elsewhere, but I was reading/listening to an interview with a former American official who was discussing the Taliban and the new govt in Afghanistan. The official was saying the old guard was discovering that some of their announcements were being met with much less enthusiasm than they were expecting--that modern Afghanistan citizens were like, 'yeah, no, we're not down with some of this destroy the entire culture to return to 1880." However, the Taliban has the power right now, and the weapons.

This was the statement by the new Minister of Higher Education:  “At the head of the country, there are people who have never gone to university, or even high school. Education is useless. As long as we are pious, we are respected, ”

Do seem to be some similarities between some of the electorate here and the extremists trying to outdo each other in the Lege. Problem is, is Texas going the way of Afghanistan?

[Fudge Nuggets 19190]

10 hours ago, Captainant said:

What a hollow fucking statement. Bidens order does leave available the option to not get vaxxed - you just have to prove that you aren't spreading plague with weekly tests. Seems pretty reasonable. And the vaccine mandate with threat of a fine as enforcement is a 7-2 affirmative precedent from the supreme court

The test makers should make tests free for people with proof of vaccination and $1,000 a pop for the unvaxxed.  You know, let the free markets work and shit.

[jimmyjazz 45920]

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

No offense to your friend, but bullshit.

Unless she slept through the past 5 years, she knows the courts were packed by Trump/McConnell with judges favorable to this.   The 5th Circuit, SCOTUS....come on now.

They didn't expect the sea change to pay off, especially at SCOTUS, where lifetime appointments and a (presumed) respect for precedent often mean rulings don't go the way one might expect based on individual predispositions.

They judged incorrectly.  The shitstorm is going to be epic.

[atomheartbevo 89659]

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

No offense to your friend, but bullshit.

Unless she slept through the past 5 years, she knows the courts were packed by Trump/McConnell with judges favorable to this.   The 5th Circuit, SCOTUS....come on now. 

Texas GOP relying on the courts packed with FedSoc judges to scuttle their own draconian abortion law...

Not really.   Trump/McConnell weren't packing the courts over the long shot of fucking with Roe vs Wade, they were packing them for a lot of other shit that financially benefitted their backers.  

There are plenty of Republicans running next year that were not wanting to run on defending abortions basically being banned.

For Republicans, Abortion was always an easy campaign win.  Pretend you were doing something about it, fundraise off of evangelicals, but don't actually do something about it so that you can continue to fundraise in the future, and so that you don't draw a bunch of people to the voting booth who might not normally show up (or would normally vote (R)).  Now that abortion has been taken out of the equation, they've unified the left and moderates, something the dipshits running various Democratic groups have a hard time doing consistently.

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

Something about face eating leopards

And this.

It's one thing to catch a tiger by the tale, quite another to let go and see what happens, and they've let go.

[Bullneck 19085]

1 hour ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

I posted this in the abortion thread, but it fits here, too. 

Republicans just broke their golden rule

 

Chris Ladd is dropping truth bombs.  

[mchookem 16334]

1 hour ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

It may have been on this forum or perhaps I heard it on the radio as my attention has been elsewhere, but I was reading/listening to an interview with a former American official who was discussing the Taliban and the new govt in Afghanistan. The official was saying the old guard was discovering that some of their announcements were being met with much less enthusiasm than they were expecting--that modern Afghanistan citizens were like, 'yeah, no, we're not down with some of this destroy the entire culture to return to 1880." However, the Taliban has the power right now, and the weapons.

This was the statement by the new Minister of Higher Education:  “At the head of the country, there are people who have never gone to university, or even high school. Education is useless. As long as we are pious, we are respected, ”

Do seem to be some similarities between some of the electorate here and the extremists trying to outdo each other in the Lege. Problem is, is Texas going the way of Afghanistan?

 

[Chooky 13307]

The War on Living People

[Mileslong 4727]

I guess the next Abbott masterstroke will be to pass a law to execute women who have miscarriages…

[cactusflinthead 27598]

5 hours ago, Js1 said:

No offense to your friend, but bullshit.

Unless she slept through the past 5 years, she knows the courts were packed by Trump/McConnell with judges favorable to this.   The 5th Circuit, SCOTUS....come on now. 

Texas GOP relying on the courts packed with FedSoc judges to scuttle their own draconian abortion law...

They just aren't that smart. SCOTUS as it's comprised now isn't either. Nobody told them it was a part of the ongoing scam. So SCOTUS did what they thought the Lege wanted. Now they get to run on it or from it. 

We're still in the fuck around stage. The finding out is later. 

Oh, and since Mexico legalized abortion we know where the affluent will be going. And there's always Oklahoma. They still have an escape. The mistresses and daughters of the same people that voted for this will still "go on a little vacation" and get that problem taken care of.

 

[Biff Tannen 45682]

5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

On a side note, or maybe not that much of a side note, a friend who works for one of the legislators - she swears up and down that they didn't intend for this to sail through the Supreme Court in the manner that it did.  She said they only intended to throw some red meat to the evangelicals, do the whole "we put up a hard fight, but the pro-abortion crowd defeated us, so now we need more money to continue the fight next year!". She said there is concern over blowback.

My response was "the Republicans did what the Democrats usually can't do consistently - unified the Democrats and moderates, so props to the Republicans?"

Edit: the higher-ups/etc. that crafted the legislation obviously put in the homework to get it to that level, but it was sold to her boss as "just some more red meat for the evangelicals" and not "you're going to have to defend this next year, good luck with that!"

Your response should have just been a Gritty gif. 

[Biff Tannen 45682]

1 hour ago, Chooky said:

The War on Living People

Can someone explain to me why an indicted person is still allowed to function in a high up governmental role?  Especially the fucking highest lawyer in the state role!  I mean cmon. This is simulation level bullshit. 

[TwiceHorn 31463]

3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Not really.   Trump/McConnell weren't packing the courts over the long shot of fucking with Roe vs Wade, they were packing them for a lot of other shit that financially benefitted their backers.  

There are plenty of Republicans running next year that were not wanting to run on defending abortions basically being banned.

For Republicans, Abortion was always an easy campaign win.  Pretend you were doing something about it, fundraise off of evangelicals, but don't actually do something about it so that you can continue to fundraise in the future, and so that you don't draw a bunch of people to the voting booth who might not normally show up (or would normally vote (R)).  Now that abortion has been taken out of the equation, they've unified the left and moderates, something the dipshits running various Democratic groups have a hard time doing consistently.

And this.

It's one thing to catch a tiger by the tale, quite another to let go and see what happens, and they've let go.

Yep, at the federal level, 'bortion is just another talking point among the GOP that they never intend to do much about from a legislative standpoint.

And, at the red state level, it mostly is, too.  Except they pass facially unconsitutional legislation that they can use as red meat to further the talking point.

But in keeping with the aggressive stupidity unleashed by Trump, they actually went and passed an abortion law that's going to survive for more than a few days and thereby scare the living shit out of some previously pretty reliable voters.

I am not convinced, however, that the Supremes are going to back very far off Roe, if at all.  And I don't think they're going to let a fetal heartbeat or six-week abortion law stand.  Shadow docket shenanigans notwithstanding.

Edited September 11, 2021 by TwiceHorn

[atomheartbevo 89659]

14 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yep, at the federal level, 'bortion is just another talking point among the GOP that they never intend to do much about from a legislative standpoint.

And, at the red state level, it mostly is, too.  Except they pass facially unconsitutional legislation that they can use as red meat to further the talking point.

But in keeping with the aggressive stupidity unleashed by Trump, they actually went and passed an abortion law that's going to survive for more than a few days and thereby scare the living shit out of some previously pretty reliable voters.

If you are a Republican politician with a safe seat, it's a great selling point to tell Joe Sixpack who attends First Baptist Church in Bumfuck, Texas, that the Republicans defeated abortion.  It's not great for you as a politician financially, since you now can't fundraise off of it (you can try and egg Joe Sixpack on, but he's thinking "Nahh, the Supreme Court has got this, Trump was a genius").

It's also good for Republican politicians to have their evangelical supporters think that Trump/Mitch pushed those judges through to defeat abortion, when in reality those judges are all sitting where they are at because some really rich folks and/or corporations lobbied to have judges who are friendly to said individuals/corporations that want to avoid taxes, regulations, etc.

But yeah, it's going to be a problem with some voters who didn't care about abortion before because it wasn't threatened too much. 

It really has taken an arrow out of the Republican quiver.

And more than a few Republican politicians are going to have to try and convince a decent chunk of moderate voters that the GOP is not trying to turn Texas into something out of the Handmaid's Tale, all the while Abbott and Paxton are (very) publicly out there acting like they are trying to turn it into something out of the Handmaid's Tale.  

At the end of the day, you are what your record says you are.

[atomheartbevo 89659]

1 hour ago, Chooky said:

The War on Living People

It's really fucking stupid on Paxton's part.  Covid is still a massive problem, and Paxton is just bringing more attention back to it.  I guess if you want to distract from abortion, sure, maybe, but there's a shitload of parents in this state who are tired of getting the notes about exposure, worrying about pediatric ICUs fill up, tired of their kids having to stay home at times, etc.

Paxton and Abbott have really underestimated the amount of parents who are tired of this shit, and willing to put up with masks to keep their kids physically in school, and they continue to underestimate them.

I get that Abbott is worried about Huffines - I still think Abbot is worried about a MAGA third-party challenger, and Huffines and West are exactly the types to do so, and Huffines has the money, and Trump could easily support that if Abbott isn't MAGA enough in his eyes.

But Abbott is not giving himself any room to move back to the middle ahead of next year's general election, and try and recapture those moderates that could/would bail over a lot of this shit.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

While I believe there are large numbers of voters who are weary of Republican (lack) leadership during a pandemic, a brutal freeze with financial costs that were ultimately borne by citizens and the ultimate cost of loss of life, the waste of time and resources spent in “guarding” and grandstanding at the southern border, diverting more time and resources to build a collapsible wall, ensuring the sanctity of bathrooms and sports teams by peeking in a student’s panties, an explosion in PNG that spewed Lord knows what into the air but hey, stay inside and hold your breath, the evaporation of honest and forthright discussions of history in classrooms, and of course the law that provides vigilante womb warriors the opportunity to bounty hunt their prey…I also believe they have yet to claw forth the entire scummy foul crust clinging to the sides of the abyss into which he and  they (the GOP) have fallen. 
 

First comes the fear tactic and then comes the banality of evil writ in policy. 

Edit to add: the voters will matter only up until the point that the GOP is losing and then they will use the election officers and everything in their power to stay there.

News at eleven, after the tweets.

Edited September 11, 2021 by Mrs Whiggins

[staboner 4969]

6 hours ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

I posted this in the abortion thread, but it fits here, too. 

Republicans just broke their golden rule

 

thanks for posting. everything is fine until its not. the train will eventually have to leave the station i guess. 

sadly, i don't know if it matters for voting when that train has also left the station, cheating and all. i guess one can hope texas comes around and pulls off the narrowest of victories here and stops this stupid shit

[JimmyJames 12271]

20 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

On a side note, or maybe not that much of a side note, a friend who works for one of the legislators - she swears up and down that they didn't intend for this to sail through the Supreme Court in the manner that it did.  She said they only intended to throw some red meat to the evangelicals, do the whole "we put up a hard fight, but the pro-abortion crowd defeated us, so now we need more money to continue the fight next year!". She said there is concern over blowback.

My response was "the Republicans did what the Democrats usually can't do consistently - unified the Democrats and moderates, so props to the Republicans?"

Edit: the higher-ups/etc. that crafted the legislation obviously put in the homework to get it to that level, but it was sold to her boss as "just some more red meat for the evangelicals" and not "you're going to have to defend this next year, good luck with that!"

Damn right there should be concern over blowback.

You know who is primarily pro choice? White women.
 

You know who tends to vote more often in midterms? 

[Patrick Bateman 3913]

16 hours ago, Mileslong said:

I guess the next Abbott masterstroke will be to pass a law to execute women who have miscarriages…

[Neonmoon 38129]

Is there a way to tell a woman had a miscarriage versus a self administered abortion?

[atomheartbevo 89659]

11 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Is there a way to tell a woman had a miscarriage versus a self administered abortion?

Maybe if somebody checks her bank account a few days after the "miscarriage" and notices a strange deposit.

[Bama Chick 28596]

[washparkhorn 9939]

Texas Repubs like the Q-narrative so much -- they want to cancel anyone who stands up to the massive delusion that serves as the backbone for trumpism. 

Pathetic. Reckless. Aiding and Abetting. 

Quote

Texas Governor Greg Abbott has signed a bill that aims to stop social media companies from banning users or nixing posts based solely on political opinions — the latest salvo by Republicans, who claim that these tech giants are censoring conservative users.

The new law requires social media companies with more than 50 million monthly users to disclose their content moderation policies and institute an appeals process. It would also require such social media companies to remove illegal content within 48 hours. 

Under the state legislation, users may sue the platforms to get their accounts reinstated, and the Texas attorney general would be able to file suits on behalf of users. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-social-media-bill-censorship-signed-law-governor-abbott/

Communist in nature - the Tex Repubs want to assert State control over the private sector like some got damm Maoist Cult. They see the commies doing it in Red China - and they want to do it in Texas. dumb.

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by washparkhorn