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26 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I’ve come to the conclusion this will go on through the 2020 election. 

Easily if Manafort and Cohen hearings keep getting bumped. 

Posted
17 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

I get that but if this dirty fuck is running without us knowing just how dirty he is then we're beyond fucked.  I'd rather him not be POTUS in 2020 and never go to jail than serve 4 more years and then be arrested on his oversized death bed.

Pubs will be declaring that the statute of limitations absolves them from any wrongdoing. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

Easily if Manafort and Cohen hearings keep getting bumped. 

The key was the right wing media keeping their audiences in the dark for two years with all the nothingburger, witch hunt, fake news bullshit.

You know, political warfare.

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I understand the need for patience, but if in the fall of 2020 Trump is standing up there on the debate stage, while we hear “Mueller is closing in! Jr and Kush to be indicted soon!” I’m going to.... well I won’t do anything. But I won’t be happy!

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2 hours ago, kevwun said:

Hello Emoluments Clause.

Fairly certain that will be investigated in the Oversight Committee led by Cummings.  He's been catching shade and roadblocks from the White House on all sorts of issues since the transition.  He's pissed and no stone will go unturned, and he has subpoena power now. That investigation deserves it's own thread when it gets going, going to be awesome.  

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Posted
31 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

Pubs will be declaring that the statute of limitations absolves them from any wrongdoing. 

Bob Mueller is not a moron.  He will avoid exceeding the statute of limitations if it seems legally expedient to do so.

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4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I understand the need for patience, but if in the fall of 2020 Trump is standing up there on the debate stage, while we hear “Mueller is closing in! Jr and Kush to be indicted soon!” I’m going to.... well I won’t do anything. But I won’t be happy!

If the Dems didn’t make a hard and fast push to remove Trump in quarter one of this year, they never will. 

The Dems have clearly opted for the slow bleed approach which will go on until election season. 

 The only thing that can get Trump removed is if Republicans come crawling to Pelosi begging to impeach Trump.  There is a better chance of an asteroid destroying the earth before that happens. 

And the Mueller report won’t matter as far as removing Trump but it could have election consequences.

Posted
1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

then what's the fucking point?

To find and convict every single fucking American involved, regardless of how long or how much money it takes.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

To find and convict every single fucking American involved, regardless of how long or how much money it takes.

And what a glorious day it will be when we can all stand vindicated and reveling in the glory of his downfall, perched above the ashes of what used to be a great country.

Posted (edited)
32 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

To find and convict every single fucking American involved,

We need to find every witting traitor and grifter.

Most of America was unwittingly involved in this conspiracy including the media and posters on forums like this which enthusiastically propagated stolen emails without hesitation.

Little did we know we were doing the work of the Russian Government.

Trump going around saying it wasn’t Russia didn’t help either.  It’s almost like he’s been working on behalf of the Kremlin the entire time. 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Also, according to the prosecutors, he and Butina were in a sexual relationship but Butina "privately expressed disdain"  for him.   Ha ha ha. 

doesn't matter. had sex

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Also, according to the prosecutors, he and Butina were in a sexual relationship but Butina "privately expressed disdain"  for him.   Ha ha ha. 


That doesn’t distinguish their relationship from many.
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21 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

This guy is a perfect example of the modern Republican Party. Completely corrupt, making millions off the government tit, a complete hypocrite, and a financial criminal. 

Hail to the modern day GOP! Trump and his criminal organization is what we worship and if you don’t like it, we’ll worship the enemies of our country too! 

So fuck your feelings! 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Tuco said:

 


That doesn’t distinguish their relationship from many.

 

It would kind of suck if plain looking Russian honeypots looked down at you with disdain. 

But this guy has other things to worry about when he gets to prison. 

Posted
28 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

This guy is a perfect example of the modern Republican Party. Completely corrupt, making millions off the government tit, a complete hypocrite, and a financial criminal. 

Hail to the modern day GOP! Trump and his criminal organization is what we worship and if you don’t like it, we’ll worship the enemies of our country too! 

So fuck your feelings! 

at least he's not food stamps.

Posted
2 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


Erickson has deep ties to the NRA.

Also, according to the prosecutors, he and Butina were in a sexual relationship but Butina "privately expressed disdain"  for him.   Ha ha ha. 

Wait.  They were married?

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Posted
7 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

not completely but again, if we're receiving a report that trump is crooked as shit in 2022 then what was the fucking point?

Having a full and truthful accounting of events is extremely valuable. Think of how valuable having the Watergate tapes have been to our overall political system. They give us a touchstone into how corruption can work and how to craft regulations and checks against power to prevent the same thing from happening. Even if Donald gets away without impeachment and resignation, future legislators could use what they learn from this to shore up holes in the ethical framework of the presidency.

An autopsy is very useful even though it doesn't save that one person's life.

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Posted
1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

not completely but again, if we're receiving a report that trump is crooked as shit in 2022 then what was the fucking point?

To try to make sure it never happens again. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

But wouldn't they then just subpoena him to testify anyway?

Yes.  But it would probably have to be for a date in the future (not sure how long you have to wait with a congressional subpoena, but there are typically notice requirements with a subpoena).  And then by the time the issue of whether Whitaker has to comply with the subpoena makes its way through the courts we'll have AG Barr.

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8 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

Yes.  But it would probably have to be for a date in the future (not sure how long you have to wait with a congressional subpoena, but there are typically notice requirements with a subpoena).  And then by the time the issue of whether Whitaker has to comply with the subpoena makes its way through the courts we'll have AG Barr.

This is the key issue.  A congressional subpoena can be disobeyed without consequence for a pretty long time.  They aren't "self-executing" in the way a judicial subpoena is.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

helpful thread here

Hey now, don't forget the big questions that need to be posed to Matt:

1) Do you spell it "ketchup" or "catsup"?

2) What was your favorite bar when you attended Iowa?

3) Is it true that Kirk Ferentz thought you were a pussy?

4) Costco or Sam's Club?

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

This is the key issue.  A congressional subpoena can be disobeyed without consequence for a pretty long time.  They aren't "self-executing" in the way a judicial subpoena is.

So, what's the disincentive for Congress to say "fine, we won't subpoena you," they get him to show up and testify (poorly and dishonestly, surely), and then say "because you weren't negotiating in good faith, fuck you, here's a subpoena for the rest of it?"  He's a fucking snake, there's no reason to keep your word.  Tell him what he wants you to say, then fuck him.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

So, what's the disincentive for Congress to say "fine, we won't subpoena you," they get him to show up and testify (poorly and dishonestly, surely), and then say "because you weren't negotiating in good faith, fuck you, here's a subpoena for the rest of it?"  He's a fucking snake, there's no reason to keep your word.  Tell him what he wants you to say, then fuck him.

Absolutely, that is exactly how his hero Trump has done things his whole life.  Keeping your word means nothing.  Operating in good faith, what the hell is that?

Go ahead and play by their rules.  Bullshit, manipulate and lie lie lie.  They have no conscious.  You just can't fight that being straight up and honest.

Posted
35 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

Hey now, don't forget the big questions that need to be posed to Matt:

1) Do you spell it "ketchup" or "catsup"?

2) What was your favorite bar when you attended Iowa?

3) Is it true that Kirk Ferentz thought you were a pussy?

4) Costco or Sam's Club?

 

And WHO WAS the official tester of the Big Dick toilet prototype??



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