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35 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

He can pardon Russians. I'm not sure if he can pardon anyone before they are convicted though. 

POTUS can absolutely pardon someone prior to conviction.  Ford pardoned Nixon less than a month after Nixon resigned.

I can't imagine there would be a restriction on pardoning foreigners early, but I don't know that for sure.

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Just to make sure I have the alternative facts straight...  Our government -- but I'm guessing only the deep state part of it --- is now guilty of torturing a poor, naive Russian exchange student who

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liberals suddenly being terrified of Russia and manic for election integrity is just pure comedy gold.

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I don't believe for a moment that any of this is entertaining to you.  I think it gives you a bit of anxiety knowing that your best weapon against a group who you despise is a bumbling fraud as a busi

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5 hours ago, GSU&UT said:

Regardless of whether foreign actors did anything to change votes or rolls, Wisconsin had successfully suppressed around 200,000 votes in the 2016 election with voter ID laws. For all the micro-dick stroking our GOP friends get over the constitution and the rule of law, they conveniently don't follow it when it hurts browns. It should be our god given right to vote without undue hardship.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/may/24/tammy-baldwin/photo-id-law-caused-200000-drop-wisconsin-voter-tu/

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I pray to God the voter rolls were not altered.   That would be disastrous for our country.  I'm hoping this newly public evidence of accessing the voter rolls is just part of the already-established Russian plot to target voters with online propaganda.  That is, that the voter roll information was used to help figure out which GOP useful idiots to target.  Which is still a terrible thing, but one that will be easier for our country to handle.  

That’s what I would do, for what it’s worth. I wouldn’t bother changing counts. I’d target voter rolls in key precincts to make lines longer and force people to ask for provisional ballots.

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The Way Trump and the GOP Deal with Russian Attacks is 'Textbook Treason'

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-way-trump-and-the-gop-deal-with-russian-attacks-is-textbook-treason?ref=scroll

The Way Trump and the GOP Deal with Russian Attacks is ‘Textbook Treason’ 

Trump may deny collusion. But given that this the attack continues, denying it is collusion, distracting from it is collusion, obstructing the investigation of it is collusion — because all these things enable it to go on. 

That the president is abetted in his aid for the Russians — again, in the midst of this ongoing attack — by the leadership of the Republican Party makes the situation all the more extraordinary and dangerous. As they seek to undermine the investigation, they serve Russia as directly as if they were officers of the GRU. Some now reportedly seek to impeach Rosenstein on trumped up charges. To attack one of the leaders of our national defense as we are being attacked and to do so to benefit our foreign adversary is textbook treason. 

At stake are the results in our 2018 and 2020 elections and the integrity of our political system. This enemy seeks not only to put puppets or weak or deficient leaders in place, it seeks to gain leverage over them as they come to realize they are advertently or not the beneficiaries of the Russian attacks. (We now know clearly how that works.) 

They seek to use them to advance their interests on a broad international front (consider their success in achieving this goal thus far in this administration … you need look back no further than this week's NATO Summit.)

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JimmyJames

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52 minutes ago, Mapache said:

Ex-Watergate Prosecutor Drops Bomb: Mueller Prepping Indictments For Trump Campaign Officials

 

The Grand Old Traitors (“GOT”) strike again. 

I used to be a republican. Voted for Bush twice. I will never cast a ballot for any republican ever again for any position. I don’t care if it’s some dude running to be a local property appraiser. Never again will I vote R. 

 If my dad was running for office as a Republican, I would still love him but I would absolutely vote against him. The republicans are what the Nazi party was in Germany in the 1920s. Not quite completely evil yet, but well on there way. At least we’ve seen the playbook so we have a chance to stop it. 

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5 hours ago, GSU&UT said:

Regardless of whether foreign actors did anything to change votes or rolls, Wisconsin had successfully suppressed around 200,000 votes in the 2016 election with voter ID laws. For all the micro-dick stroking our GOP friends get over the constitution and the rule of law, they conveniently don't follow it when it hurts browns. It should be our god given right to vote without undue hardship.

Being able to vote absentee in wisconsin isnt undue hardship.  Even if you aren't registered to vote you can always file a provisional ballot 

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The Grand Old Traitors (“GOT”) strike again. 

I used to be a republican. Voted for Bush twice. I will never cast a ballot for any republican ever again for any position. I don’t care if it’s some dude running to be a local property appraiser. Never again will I vote R. 

 If my dad was running for office as a Republican, I would still love him but I would absolutely vote against him. The republicans are what the Nazi party was in Germany in the 1920s. Not quite completely evil yet, but well on there way. At least we’ve seen the playbook so we have a chance to stop it. 

Right...you really missed the last administration's use of certain agencies to attack political opponents and corporations.  I mean they openly spied on journalists

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Yet another lame: But Obama. 

 

They sure trying though, huh? I mean this “witch hunt” is lining up to be a conspiracy of treachery with multiple indictments and more to come. They’re scraping the barrel when it comes to excuses. 

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12 minutes ago, ScottishHorn said:

Right...you really missed the last administration's use of certain agencies to attack political opponents and corporations.  I mean they openly spied on journalists

You shouldn’t oppose Nazis, because some American GIs looted from civilians.  #bothsides

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9 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Yeah remember that time Obama conspired with the Chinese to rig an American election. Ya remember that?

That was awesome. 

How was the US election rigged?  Because some Russian bots sent out anti-Clinton material to those who hated Clinton?  I guess the DNC dossier supplied by Russian operatives goes over your head

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How was the US election rigged?  Because some Russian bots sent out anti-Clinton material to those who hated Clinton?  I guess the DNC dossier supplied by Russian operatives goes over your head

Tell me my brother. Why like clockwork do you always defend the old mother Russia? Perchance is it for the cutter? 

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15 minutes ago, ScottishHorn said:

Nazi's aren't socialists?

You need to try to understand how one thing can be a subset of another.

All birds are animals, but not all animals are birds.

See how that works?

We'll cover how -s and -'s work next time.

Keep fighting the good fight, Rush.

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1 hour ago, FondrenRoad said:

He can pardon Russians. I'm not sure if he can pardon anyone before they are convicted though. 

I believe he can pardon prior to conviction.  Pardon doesn't apply to impeachment, yet Nixon was pardoned by Ford after he resigned and before any indictments.

 

State charges could be brought against the Russians, if states with jurisdiction (Virginia? Maryland? DC?) have hacking statutes that address it.  Texas does.  Tex. Penal Code 33.02 is pretty similar to the federal crime.

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Tell me my brother. Why like clockwork do you always defend the old mother Russia? Perchance is it for the cutter? 

 I think Russian attempts to influence the people in this country worked on you well.  The simple minded.  The people that dont see the hypocrisy and turn a blind eye to the corruption in government because it's their team

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58 minutes ago, ScottishHorn said:

Being able to vote absentee in wisconsin isnt undue hardship.  Even if you aren't registered to vote you can always file a provisional ballot 

That isn't what I was getting at you disingenuous piece of stool.

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 I think Russian attempts to influence the people in this country worked on you well.  The simple minded.  The people that dont see the hypocrisy and turn a blind eye to the corruption in government because it's their team

You sure are active in this thread tonight. When does your trolling assignment end this evening? Or i guess it’s the morning for you so you’re just getting started. 

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22 minutes ago, ScottishHorn said:

 I think Russian attempts to influence the people in this country worked on you well.  The simple minded.  The people that dont see the hypocrisy and turn a blind eye to the corruption in government because it's their team

See Republican support for Nixon 

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37 minutes ago, ScottishHorn said:

 I think Russian attempts to influence the people in this country worked on you well.  The simple minded.  The people that dont see the hypocrisy and turn a blind eye to the corruption in government because it's their team

Have some fucking self respect.  Theyre fucking lying to your big dumb face.  Mother Russia and Fox News has weaponized your dimwittedness.  Congratulations, you fermented santorum

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2 hours ago, Mapache said:

Ex-Watergate Prosecutor Drops Bomb: Mueller Prepping Indictments For Trump Campaign Officials

 

this is crap.

i wanted to watch that segment and went to youtube where i searched for nick akerman.  that segment doesn't show up (might be reasonable) but what does show up for nick akerman:

1) a nick ackerman who runs some sort of blog regarding technical stuff

2) 2 month old appearance of nick akerman on msnbc

3) 1 year old

4) 1 year old

5) 5 month old

6) 23 hours old with akerman and talking about yesterday's indictments - no mention of no way, as i said above

7) kid doing bicycle stunts

8). 22 hours old - same interview as 6) above

i have no idea how the algorithms might be set up by google, but they sure aren't helping.  the two tubes that even deal with yesterday are clear off the screen of results if you search for nick akerman.

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7 minutes ago, yaqdum said:

this is crap.

i wanted to watch that segment and went to youtube where i searched for nick akerman.  that segment doesn't show up (might be reasonable) but what does show up for nick akerman:

1) a nick ackerman who runs some sort of blog regarding technical stuff

2) 2 month old appearance of nick akerman on msnbc

3) 1 year old

4) 1 year old

5) 5 month old

6) 23 hours old with akerman and talking about yesterday's indictments - no mention of no way, as i said above

7) kid doing bicycle stunts

8). 22 hours old - same interview as 6) above

i have no idea how the algorithms might be set up by google, but they sure aren't helping.  the two tubes that even deal with yesterday are clear off the screen of results if you search for nick akerman.

He was a Watergate prosecutor, so no legitimacy there right?

https://computerfraud.us/bio

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You sure are active in this thread tonight. When does your trolling assignment end this evening? Or i guess it’s the morning for you so you’re just getting started. 

He wrote Scottish, to throw us off. My god it nearly worked! He is lucky the Nazi’s were able to waltz in and all over the Soviet Union. Their women threw themselves upon those German boys, and I bet that really pisses him off. That and of course, we had to save their asses again and kept them afloat via supplies and designing their tanks.
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Ackerman has been calling this pretty well for a while.  He said the Russians hacking were the next indictments to drop.  

He also knows the conspiracy was a quid pro quo for sanctions relief.

I mean FFS, the whole conspiracy is plain sight. You just have to pay attention and not be a head in the sand idiot to see it.

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22 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

The Trump campaign was clearly using information from the illegal hack of the DNC.

This is not going to end well.

Yep.  And Paul Manafort, an unemployed person at that time, suddenly re-appears on twitter 

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Ackerman has been calling this pretty well for a while.  He said the Russians hacking were the next indictments to drop.  

He also knows the conspiracy was a quid pro quo for sanctions relief.

I mean FFS, the whole conspiracy is plain sight. You just have to pay attention and not be a head in the sand idiot to see it.

Even if you set aside Trump's actions in the campaign and in the Comey firing, ignoring the Russian threat while in office and thwarting the investigation itself should be impeachable on their own.

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So if wikileaks was perpetrated by the GRU, then how does that affect Q and all that nonsense?   Wasn't a lot of that based on wikileaks?    How much credibility can be granted all that stuff now if it's proven to be Russian generated?    If they can hack stuff to reveal, can't they plant stuff as well?   Seems to really take the steam out of Q and the whole deep state argument. 

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12 minutes ago, ScottishHorn said:

Well it was public information so what's the point.  It got released to everyone by wikileaks

How the information was obtained is important - it was stolen. 

If the information was then being made available for an interested party who knew it was about to be presented, whether it's made accessible on a public platform or on a secret thumb drive is kind of irrelevant.  What matters is if the information was collaboratively provided and obtained, and was then used for corrupt actions. 

Roger Stone corresponded with Russian military intelligence around this very matter.  It appears certain US persons coordinated with a foreign power who levied war on our electoral democracy.

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 I think Russian attempts to influence the people in this country worked on you well.  The simple minded.  The people that dont see the hypocrisy and turn a blind eye to the corruption in government because it's their team

I don't think I've ever seen someone own themselves so badly before. This is an impressive post.

 

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