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8 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Could be completely unrelated but I felt it was important to note this development 

 

https://pagesix.com/2018/04/04/rudy-and-judith-giuliani-to-divorce/

 

Rudy Giuliani and his wife Judith are divorcing after 15 years of marriage, the former New York mayor has exclusively confirmed to Page Six.

Giuliani, who married Judith in 2003, said, “It is with great sadness I can confirm that Judith and I are divorcing. We hope to do this as amicably as possible, and hope that people will respect the privacy of our children at this time.”

Judith just filed a contested divorce proceeding in Manhattan Supreme Court, meaning she is expecting a fight over their assets.

Rudy, 73, and Judith, 63, both have adult children from previous marriages. He has Andrew and Caroline with his second wife, Donna Hanover. 

Registered nurse Judith has a daughter, Whitney, from her marriage to Bruce Nathan, which ended in 1992. 

This was the third marriage for both. 

Confirming that Judith has filed for divorce, Rudy added to Page Six, “In these divorce situations, you cannot place blame, it is 50/50, there are problems on both sides. We will have to divide our properties in New York and Palm Beach.”

Rudy is up to his elbows in the True Pundit FBI leaks that caused Comey to re-open the investigation of Hillary right before the election. There's been lots of speculation (Abramson among others) that the FBI Inspector General report that is pending has looked into this and will make recommendations. Rudy could be looking at his turn in the barrel soon.  

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Rudy is up to his elbows in the True Pundit FBI leaks that caused Comey to re-open the investigation of Hillary right before the election. There's been lots of speculation (Abramson among others) that the FBI Inspector General report that is pending has looked into this and will make recommendations. Rudy could be looking at his turn in the barrel soon.  

I’ve read the literature on this and I’m skeptical on how much of it will come to light because it was and internal FBI scandal but I don’t doubt Rudy is in some deep shit.  There’s also a lot of other Russia corruption stuff related to Rudy out there going back to his NYC days.

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Come out, come, wherever you are.  Depending on how much evidence Mueller has, wild speculation suggests he could lay a legal minefield for a fair number of oligarchs who are dependent on international business and travel.  Indict these guys on perjury, conspiracy, or whatever and let them spend the rest of time hunkered down in mother russia to avoid justice.

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WASHINGTON — A witness who is cooperating in the special counsel investigation, George Nader, has connections to both the Persian Gulf states and Russia and may have information that links two important strands of the inquiry together, interviews and records show.

Mr. Nader’s ties to the United Arab Emirates are well documented — he is an adviser to its leader — but the extent of his links to Russia had not been previously disclosed.

Mr. Nader, a Lebanese-American businessman, has a catalog of international connections that paved the way for numerous meetings with White House officials that have drawn the attention of the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III. For example, Mr. Nader used his longstanding ties to Kirill Dmitriev, the manager of a state-run Russian investment fund, to help set up a meeting in the Seychelles between Mr. Dmitriev and a Trump adviser days before Donald J. Trump took office.

Separately, investigators have asked witnesses about a meeting Mr. Nader attended in 2017 with a New York hedge fund manager, where he was joined by Jared Kushner and Stephen K. Bannon, who at the time were both senior advisers to Mr. Trump.

The investigative trail even led Mr. Mueller’s team to stop an Australian entrepreneur with ties to the U.A.E. after he landed at a Washington-area airport, according to people briefed on the matter. The investigators questioned the entrepreneur about Mr. Nader, including Mr. Nader’s relationship with Russia and his contacts with Mr. Trump’s advisers, as well as the movement of money from the U.A.E. into the United States.

Mr. Nader has received at least partial immunity for his cooperation, and it appears unlikely that Mr. Mueller is trying to build a case against him. Instead, it is common for prosecutors to interview as many people as possible to corroborate the testimony of a key witness like Mr. Nader.

Mr. Nader’s dealings with Russia date at least to 2012, when he helped broker a controversial $4.2 billion deal for the government of Iraq to buy Russian weapons. At the time, he was an informal adviser to Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki of Iraq, and he accompanied Mr. Maliki to Moscow in September 2012 to sign the arms deal at a meeting with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia. Mr. Nader’s role in the deal was earlier reported by Al-Monitor.

The deal was canceled shortly after because of concerns about corruption, and a spokesman for the prime minister said it would be renegotiated.

Earlier that year, Mr. Nader also attended the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum, an invitation-only conference organized by senior officials close to Mr. Putin that Russia presents as its answer to the World Economic Forum held annually in Davos, Switzerland. Mr. Nader is on a list of participants from 2012. Representatives of the St. Petersburg forum did not respond to inquiries about his attendance in subsequent years.

Since then, according to people familiar with his travels, Mr. Nader has returned frequently to Russia on behalf of the Emirati government. He even had his picture taken with Mr. Putin, according to one person who has seen the photograph, although it is unclear when the picture was taken.

Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed Al-Nahyan of Abu Dhabi, the de facto ruler of the U.A.E., is a close ally of the United States and a frequent visitor to the White House. He has also visited Moscow and met with Mr. Putin several times in recent years. One person briefed on the matter said Mr. Nader had accompanied the crown prince to Moscow on numerous occasions.

Last year, days before Mr. Trump took office, Mr. Nader helped set up a meeting at a Seychelles resort between Mr. Dmitriev, Emirati officials and Erik Prince, the former head of Blackwater Worldwide and an adviser to Mr. Trump’s transition team. The meeting, at the bar of a Four Seasons Hotel overlooking the Indian Ocean, was brokered in part to explore the possibility of a back channel for discussions between the Trump administration and the Kremlin, according to people familiar with the meeting.

 

Such contacts are at the heart of Mr. Mueller’s investigation, and his investigators have repeatedly used aggressive tactics to press witnesses. About four weeks ago, F.B.I. agents working with Mr. Mueller’s team stopped a Russian oligarch at a New York-area airport, questioned him about his dealings with Mr. Trump and seized his electronics, according to a person familiar with the matter, which was first reported by CNN.

Mr. Mueller’s investigators have asked multiple witnesses about the Seychelles meeting, part of a broader line of inquiry surrounding contacts between Emirati advisers and Trump administration officials. They have also pressed for details about a meeting Mr. Nader attended in New York in early 2017 with Mr. Kushner and Mr. Bannon with the hedge fund manager Richard Gerson, a friend of Mr. Kushner’s and the founder of Falcon Edge Capital.

Mr. Mueller’s particular interest in that meeting is unclear, although Mr. Gerson has had business dealings with the court of the U.A.E.’s Prince Mohammed. Mr. Gerson has developed relations with several senior Emirati officials over the years, including with Prince Mohammed himself, and he has often sought investments from Emirati state funds.

Mr. Gerson’s family also has business and philanthropic ties to the Kushners. Mr. Kushner has been friends for more than a decade with Mr. Gerson’s brother Mark, a founder of the specialized research company Gerson Lehrman Group. Mark Gerson was also an early investor in Cadre, a real estate technology company founded by Mr. Kushner and his brother, Josh.

Jared Kushner’s family foundation has also donated tens of thousands of dollars to an Israeli medical aid group led by Mark Gerson.

A lawyer for Mr. Nader and a spokesman for Rick Gerson declined to comment. Mark Gerson did not reply to requests for comment.

Mr. Mueller’s investigators have also questioned Joel Zamel, an Australian entrepreneur who has an office in Tel Aviv and knows Mr. Nader, according to people briefed on the matter. Mr. Zamel has had contacts with senior U.A.E. officials close to its ruler since at least 2014.

In February, federal agents working for Mr. Mueller stopped Mr. Zamel at Reagan National Airport outside Washington and briefly seized his electronic devices, the people said. Mr. Zamel later appeared before a grand jury and was questioned about Mr. Nader, though it was unclear whether Mr. Zamel had any information about Mr. Nader’s ties to Russia.

Mr. Zamel is a witness in Mr. Mueller’s investigation and is not suspected of any wrongdoing, according to Marc Mukasey, a lawyer for Mr. Zamel and his crowdsourced consulting firm, Wikistrat. The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday that Mr. Zamel informally met with Mr. Mueller’s team.

“Joel and Wikistrat have not been accused of anything, have done nothing wrong and are not the focus of the special counsel,” said Mr. Mukasey, a global chairman of Greenberg Traurig’s white-collar defense and special investigations practice. “Prosecutors like to question as many people as they can — even if they have tangential involvement and limited knowledge.”

Mr. Zamel briefly met last spring with Jared Kushner at the White House, another person said, though that meeting does not appear to be a focus of Mr. Mueller’s inquiry.

Wikistrat, which pays security experts around the world for their insights, has landed several government contracts, according to databases and news reports. Its website says the firm can draw from a group of more than 2,200 analysts worldwide who share their thinking on an interactive platform.

Some well-known experts serve on Wikistrat’s advisory council, including Michael V. Hayden, a former head of the C.I.A. and the National Security Agency, and Dennis Ross, a former United States diplomat with deep expertise in the Middle East.

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The Department of Justice Thinks That Collusion Is a Crime

 

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Is collusion a crime? That is one of the central questions of the investigation into Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 U.S. elections. Even if it could be proved that Donald Trump and his supporters worked with the Russian government, or with Russian citizens, to win the Presidential race, would that activity have violated United States law? It’s long been an article of faith for Trump supporters, and for Trump himself, that collusion is not illegal. As the President told the Times in an interview last December, “There is no collusion, and even if there was, it’s not a crime.”

Now, it appears, Trump’s own Justice Department may have a different view. That conclusion appears in a document released earlier this week, in the course of pre-trial litigation in the case of Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman, on charges including money laundering. Lawyers for Manafort, who has pleaded not guilty to the charges, asked that they be dismissed on the grounds that Robert Mueller, the special counsel, did not have the right to bring them; Manafort’s lawyers assert that the case—which centers on work that Manafort did for the pro-Russia government of Ukraine—was outside Mueller’s jurisdiction.

In response to this claim, Mueller filed a brief that laid out the basis for him to bring the case. As described in the brief, after Mueller was appointed, in May of last year, he asked Rod Rosenstein, the Deputy Attorney General and Mueller’s supervisor, for specific authorization for the areas that he wanted to investigate. In a memorandum issued on August 2nd, Rosenstein spelled out the details of Mueller’s jurisdiction. He said that Mueller had the authority to investigate:

 

Allegations that Paul Manafort:

Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government’s efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law;

Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych.

The second point shows Mueller’s authority to bring the case that he did against Manafort, but the real news is in the first point. That statement could not be clearer that Mueller can examine whether a member of the Trump campaign and the Russians were “colluding,” and thus working together “in violation of United States law.” In other words, according to Rosenstein, collusion would be a crime.

Much of the rest of Rosenstein’s memorandum is redacted. Mueller clearly has the authority to investigate other individuals, but their identities, as well as their possible crimes, are not revealed. Mueller, however, in another part of his brief, makes clear that he has the authority to investigate obstruction of justice—including obstruction of his own investigation. This, too, is a crucial disclosure. But, if collusion is a crime, what crime is it? What criminal statutes forbid collusion? In an article for The New Yorker in December, I explored this subject, and raised several possibilities, including conspiracy to solicit illegal campaign contributions and conspiracy to engage in illegal computer hacking. But Mueller’s subsequent actions give a hint of his own interpretation of the subject. In February, he obtained an indictment of thirteen Russian citizens and three Russian entities for using social media to help Trump win the election. The key charge in the case, which is called conspiracy to defraud the United States, is spelled out this way in the indictment:

Defendants, together with others known and unknown to the Grand Jury, knowingly and intentionally conspired to defraud the United States by impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful functions of the Federal Election Commission, the U.S. Department of Justice, and the U.S. Department of State in administering federal requirements for disclosure of foreign involvement in certain domestic activities.

 

This case, of course, only deals with Russian defendants. But if Mueller were able to prove that Americans worked with the Russians in this kind of endeavor—that is, if he can prove that Americans colluded with the Russians—then he could bring a similar charge against them. On Tuesday night, the Washington Post reported that the President himself remains a subject of the special counsel’s investigation, meaning that his conduct is being scrutinized, but that no decision has been made about whether charges will be brought against him.

Nevertheless, Mueller now has the authority, and the legal theory, to bring criminal charges for collusion. The unanswered question is whether he has American defendants, too.

 

You'd think this might be getting more attention.  After the 13 Russians and 3 Russian entities got indicted for conspiracy against the US, it stood to reason that anyone conspiring to further that effort or knowingly protect it from exposure or potential prosecution would also be implicated as co-conspirators.

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I suspect that the counterargument regarding collusion is that it is not spelled out in statuatory law as a crime; however, it seems entirely possible that one could commit specific crimes while colluding with (for instance) Russians to influence the outcome of our election.  One would expect Rosenstein to know whether it is a specific crime or not, but people do make mistakes.  It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

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7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I suspect that the counterargument regarding collusion is that it is not spelled out in statuatory law as a crime; however, it seems entirely possible that one could commit specific crimes while colluding with (for instance) Russians to influence the outcome of our election.  One would expect Rosenstein to know whether it is a specific crime or not, but people do make mistakes.  It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

The collusion is/is not a crime debate is laughable.

It’s called CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE UNITED STATES 

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/371

yes, this is a crime and Mueller has already charged some people with this crime.

 

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"He's a f*cking moron." Robert Mueller is counting on that.

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If there's one thing I love, it's watching a master at work. Randy Johnson pitching a no hitter. Michael Jordan soaring through the air, tongue wagging as the flash bulbs pop. Salvador Dali grandly stroking his brush across the canvas. Van Cliburn tickling the ivories as the beauty of the music pours out of the Steinway.

And now Robert Mueller is painting the legal equivalent of the Mona Lisa, and he's getting ready to use El Presidente Pendejo as his canvas. Donald Trump has two overwhelming weaknesses, paranoia, and his voracious ego, and Mueller is going to use both of them to hoist Trump on his own petard.

Robert Mueller is writing a report on Trump's time in the White House, outlining whether or not Trump obstructed justice, and he'd like to ask Trump a few questions about his "intent." Oh yeah, and he's the "subject" of an active DOJ investigation. Only The Clueless Wonder could make lemonade out of this orchard, running around the west wing pumping his fist and high fiveing because he's only a "subject," and not a "target." How can even Trump not see the two major problems here?!?

First of all, let's look at the report. If Robert Mueller had spent the last eleven months investigating The Cheeto Prophet for possible obstruction of justice, and found no evidence of wrongdoing, well then, he wouldn't need to ask Trump about his "intentions" at all, would he? The simple fact that Mueller wants to ask him about his "intent" means that there are at least some actions that hold possible culpability of criminal intent. The fact that Mueller needs to ask Trump why he said or did certain things indicates that there could be a problem with those things.

Now, let's look at this "subject" vs "target" nonsense. And let's make the example so simple that even the Fox and Friends hosts can understand it;

Cop: Well, the DA isn't quite ready to charge you yet, but he'd like you to come in and answer a few questions for him."

You: Kewl! It's great to know that he doesn't like, you know, suspect me or anything. What time does he want me there?

Even a driver who witnesses an accident loathes having to talk to the cops, afraid that they'll ask him if he switched lanes real quick, or if he'll take a breathalyzer test. Apparently, nobody has yet managed to get it through Trump's thick skull, and into the tapioca residing therein, that Paul Manafort literally spent months as the "subject" of an FBI investigation before he got slapped with enough indictment counts to keep him in a non Armani designed orange jumpsuit for the rest of his miserable life. And Trump is almost literally drooling at the prospect of setting Robert Mueller straight.

Robert Mueller just publicly played Trump's ego like a ukulele at a luau. After all, wasn't it Trump that wrote the second best selling bible of all time, "The Art of the Steal?" Trump has been conning real estate rubes for almost 40 years now, if anybody can pull the wool over some government issue ambulance chaser, it's him. Trump wants this investigation over with, and the fact that Mueller is preparing a "report" is music to his ears. In Trump's deluded, fantasy world mind, there can only be one result of such a report, complete exoneration. All Trump has to do is to convince Mueller that he "din't do nuffin'." And lying comes as naturally to Trump as breathing.

If Trump wants to talk to Mueller, he is going to talk to Mueller, and there's nothing his lawyers can do to stop it. They can counsel him to the stupidity of letting Mueller play a game of whack-a-mole with his story until they're blue in the face, but if Trump decided to get into that armored Suburban and pootle on over to Mueller's office for a fireside chat, there's nothing they can do but resign in protest. And you can bet your ass that Mueller will keep up a steady stream of plaintive pleas in the media, that the only thing that is keeping him from completing his "report" is his session with Trump. Mueller will keep on casting that $400 fly lure into the stream until the trout that is Trump bites, and bite he will, his ego, and greed to see the investigation end will require it.

But Trump isn't the only one that Robert Mueller just played like a Stradivarius either. He just played Rod Rosenstein and the US congress as well. When Mueller files a "report," he files it with Rod Rosenstein. Rosenstein reads the report, and then decides between  three things, a) to release it to the public, b) to release it to the appropriate congressional committees, or c) to put it in a filing cabinet. By announcing the existence of, and the impending release of the report, Mueller has just ensured that it will become public. When Mueller announces that it has been sent to Rosenstein, the congressional committees will immediately demand a copy. If Rosenstein resists, the committees will subpoena a copy, they'll have to, or risk like looking like they're holding a can of whitewash and a brush in their hands. And when congress gets their copy, there is no way that they can keep it secret, the public outcry for it's release will be overpowering. They may be able to redact things like classified sources and information, or grand jury testimony, but at the very least the conclusions, and supporting documents will have to be made public.

Rex Tillerson was right, he's a fucking moron. And Robert Mueller has just put Trump into a box with no safe exits. If Trump talks to Mueller, he'll lie his ass off, and Mueller's report will show the lies, along with the contradicting evidence, laying Trump open to not only obstruction of justice, but lying to the FBI as well. And if Trump refuses to meet with Mueller, then Mueller may subpoena him to appear before the grand jury. And even if he doesn't, it will be painted that Trump may be obstructing justice by refusing to speak to Mueller, he must be guilty. Game. Set. Match.

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9 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

yeah, i kind of suspect that trump's behavior today indicates some inside baseball about tomorrow. i don't know, but he was all over the fucking place.

Friday is the next Tuesday when it comes to this shit.

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Cop: Well, the DA isn't quite ready to charge you yet, but he'd like you to come in and answer a few questions for him."

You: Kewl! It's great to know that he doesn't like, you know, suspect me or anything. What time does he want me there?

Even a driver who witnesses an accident loathes having to talk to the cops, afraid that they'll ask him if he switched lanes real quick, or if he'll take a breathalyzer test. Apparently, nobody has yet managed to get it through Trump's thick skull, and into the tapioca residing therein, that Paul Manafort literally spent months as the "subject" of an FBI investigation before he got slapped with enough indictment counts to keep him in a non Armani designed orange jumpsuit for the rest of his miserable life. And Trump is almost literally drooling at the prospect of setting Robert Mueller straight.

Robert Mueller just publicly played Trump's ego like a ukulele at a luau. After all, wasn't it Trump that wrote the second best selling bible of all time, "The Art of the Steal?" Trump has been conning real estate rubes for almost 40 years now, if anybody can pull the wool over some government issue ambulance chaser, it's him. Trump wants this investigation over with, and the fact that Mueller is preparing a "report" is music to his ears. In Trump's deluded, fantasy world mind, there can only be one result of such a report, complete exoneration. All Trump has to do is to convince Mueller that he "din't do nuffin'." And lying comes as naturally to Trump as breathing

 

That's allsome
This isn't like Clinton lying about getting a bj. Hell, at the time I said I would have lied too. This is lying about serious stuff like playing fast and loose with the law. He's done it for years. He didn't give a damn then what the rules were. He doesn't know and doesn't care to know. I should go dig up that picture of the FBI lifer he just fired before he got retirement. That's the face of one extremely pissed off cop that has the restraint to hold his fire. Mueller is not fucking around. Tahoe is going to wait for the report. Clearlake won't give a damn what it says one way or the other. 

Manafort got handed a big new pile of shit to deal with and Gates is a better singer than Flynn. 

And it's Thursday. 

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It's Friday ABC News dump:  Mueller has evidence that Trump supporter's meeting with Putin ally may not have been a chance encounter: Sources

Erik Prince testified to Congress there was no pre-arranged plan to meet the Russian financier in the Seychelles, that it was a chance encounter over a beer.

Mueller now possesses documents that suggest that Erik Prince met with U.A.E. adviser George Nader in New York a week before the trip to the Seychelles and notably that, both before and after that NY meeting, Nader shared info with Prince about the Russian financier.

 

 

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On 4/4/2018 at 1:26 PM, jimmyjazz said:

Without going all Brisket on you, I don't have that much faith.  I think the populace in general is numb and it will be difficult to generate that "wave".

You only need to get the complacent middle pissed off enough to go to the polls. 

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I’m watching an NBC Special on Bob Mueller with interviews from his former classmates at Princeton.  

According to them, Bob Mueller volunteered to go to Vietnam after his friend was killed by sniper fire.  I wonder how many Ivy League kids of privilege volunteered to go to Vietnam.  

Mueller went on to get shot in the thigh by enemy AK-47 fire only to return to lead his platoon.

Also, this special highlights how computer and tech savvy Mueller is and has been throughout his career.  He set up the cyber crimes division in California.

He also requires his staff to take routine polygraph tests.  Not because he doesn’t trust them but because if a leak does occur, he can prove it didn’t come from his team. 

This guy fucks.

 

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Bob Mueller is a BAMF, there is not doubt.

He also supports domestic law enforcement using parallel construction to establish criminal cases against Americans. 

But Trump, so it all cool I guess. 

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The F.B.I. on Monday raided the office of President Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, seizing records related to several topics including payments to a pornographic-film actress.

Federal prosecutors in Manhattan obtained the search warrant after receiving a referral from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, according to Mr. Cohen’s lawyer, who called the search “completely inappropriate and unnecessary.” The search does not appear to be directly related to Mr. Mueller’s investigation, but likely resulted from information he had uncovered and gave to prosecutors in New York.

“Today the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York executed a series of search warrants and seized the privileged communications between my client, Michael Cohen, and his clients,” said Stephen Ryan, his lawyer. “I have been advised by federal prosecutors that the New York action is, in part, a referral by the Office of Special Counsel, Robert Mueller.”

Mr. Cohen plays a role in aspects of the special counsel’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. He also recently said he paid $130,000 to a pornographic-film actress, Stephanie Clifford, who said she had an affair with Mr. Trump. Ms. Clifford is known as Stormy Daniels.

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17 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

Parallel construction is one of those things that could be good if used in good faith, but is so ripe for abuse that it almost creates an instant slippery slope.

This if limited to high profile cases where you have serious SIGINT but you can't release that evidence because then the Russians know how you got em I'm fine with it. If you're going after random shit not as cool with it. Imo only use it for cases against foreign actors and those that aid them against the US. Everything you do the old fashioned way or not at all.

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2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

So it wasn't Mueller directly?  It was referred by him?  What does that mean?

It would seem to mean there was a separate criminal investigation of Trump's inner circle going on by the AG of the SDNY.

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3 minutes ago, FWD said:

It would seem to mean there was a separate criminal investigation of Trump's inner circle going on by the AG of the SDNY.

Not a lawyer, but one suggestion made on CNN is that this might be something that came on Mueller's radar but didn't fall within the purview of his investigation. It was still significant enough to refer it over to SDNY. Just speculation.

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6 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

So it wasn't Mueller directly?  It was referred by him?  What does that mean?

Mueller's team found potential evidence of a crime that was not related to the Russia investigation, and sent that evidence to the U.S. Attorney in NY to investigate.

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