The Robert Mueller Investigation

[David Dennison 18856]

I hope the neighbors of these people point and laugh at them.

[Pig Bellmont 8715]

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

Wait, so they are still running with this even though they got completely pantsed today?

“I’m not owned!”

[bolverk 29671]

2 hours ago, triplehorn said:

 

Poooraggy. Extra long red sash tie, maroon shirt, and everything. No wonder those fuckers on texags lick it up.

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1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

Wait, so they are still running with this even though they got completely pantsed today?

They are attempting to use the Trump method of doubling down on bullshit. Considering their target audience, it might just work.

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

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2 hours ago, triplehorn said:

 

Jacob Wohl is an aggy.

Everybody here knows it.  Sure, he may not have the Brazos County Community College degree on the wall, but for some things, you just don't need a degree.  Clearly his inner aggy is shining through so brightly, it's infected the idiot standing next to him.

[Celery Man 20935]

[Fudge Nuggets 19190]

5 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Yep.  As I mentioned upthread, once the Mueller hammer drops, it's going to be crazytown with these jerkoffs.

I wish he would get on with it already.

[WhatTheBuck 28777]

8 hours ago, Grandioso said:

Much of the right isn't even showing up to debate anything anymore. They've just taken a trolley to their own land of make believe and set up a tent city of disorganized thinking and conspiratorial festishism. 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/22/14762030/donald-trump-tribal-epistemology

Trump & Fox News have created the permission structure for believing whatever feels right even if unsupported by any evidence. On the contrary, you can just magically wish-think your way to a belief even if there is massive evidence to the contrary. Our President does this DAILY. 

This isn't new. In the premiere episode of The Colbert Report, Stephen Colbert introduced the word "truthiness" which was defined as exactly that, belief in something becausse it feels true despite the absence of supporting facts and evidence. That was back in 2005. 

Like  I've said before, the George W Bush presidency foreshadowed all of this. Trump is just turning it up to 11. 

[Francisco 2.0 32389]

11 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

I don’t think these guys really thought this one through. 

I kind of wish this had hit fox and drudge et all before it was exposed as a hoax. The olds, Nazis and rubes would have gone berserk. Definitely would have been better than the devin nunes “memo” which was the lamest smear ever. 

Have fun in the federal pen though. 

Shit, there is absolutely zero doubt that this is on my in-law's Facebook feed and they have believed it as the gospel.

A month from now, they will tell my spouse that Mueller is "guilty, and the media is hiding it".

[Francisco 2.0 32389]

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/31/has-robert-mueller-subpoenaed-trump-222060

 

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But now, thanks to Politico’s reporting (backed up by the simple gumshoe move of sitting in the clerk’s office waiting to see who walks in and requests what file), we may know what Mueller has been up to: Since mid-August, he may have been locked in proceedings with Trump and his lawyers over a grand jury subpoena – in secret litigation that could tell us by December whether the president will testify before Mueller’s grand jury.

 

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The evidence lies in obscure docket entries at the clerk’s office for the D.C. Circuit. Thanks to Politico’s Josh Gerstein and Darren Samuelsohn, we know that on August 16th (the day after Giuliani said he was almost finished with his memorandum, remember), a sealed grand jury case was initiated in the D.C. federal district court before Chief Judge Beryl A. Howell. We know that on September 19, Chief Judge Howell issued a ruling and 5 days later one of the parties appealed to the D.C. Circuit. And thanks to Politico’s reporting, we know that the special counsel’s office is involved (because the reporter overheard a conversation in the clerk’s office). We can further deduce that the special counsel prevailed in the district court below, and that the presumptive grand jury witness has frantically appealed that order and sought special treatment from the judges of the D.C. Circuit – often referred to as the “second-most important court in the land.”

 

 

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But for those of us who have been appellate lawyers, the brief docket entries tell a story. Here’s what we can glean:

The parties and the judges have moved with unusual alacrity. Parties normally have 30 days to appeal a lower court action. The witness here appealed just five days after losing in the district court – and three days later filed a motion before the appellate court to stay the district court’s order. That’s fast.

The appeals court itself responded with remarkable speed, too. One day after getting the witness’s motion, the court gave the special counsel just three days to respond – blindingly short as appellate proceedings go. The special counsel’s papers were filed October 1.

At this point an unspecified procedural flaw seems to have emerged, and on October 3, the appeals court dismissed the appeal. Just two days later, the lower court judge cured the flaw, the witness re-appealed, and by October 10 the witness was once again before appellate court. Thanks to very quick action of all the judges, less than one week was lost due to a flaw that, in other cases, could have taken weeks or months to resolve. 

Back before the D.C. Circuit, this case’s very special handling continued. On October 10, the day the case returned to the court, the parties filed a motion for expedited handling, and within two days, the judges had granted their motion and set an accelerated briefing schedule. The witness was given just 11 days to file briefs; the special counsel (presumably) just two weeks to respond; and reply papers one week later, on November 14 (for those paying attention, that’s 8 days after the midterm elections). Oral arguments are set for December 14.

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At every level, this matter has commanded the immediate and close attention of the judges involved – suggesting that no ordinary witness and no ordinary issue is involved. But is it the president? The docket sheets give one final – but compelling – clue. When the witness lost the first time in the circuit court (before the quick round-trip to the district court), he unusually petitioned for rehearing en banc – meaning he thought his case was so important that it merited the very unusual action of convening all 10 of the D.C. Circuit judges to review the order. That is itself telling (this witness believes his case demands very special handling), but the order disposing of the petition is even more telling: President Trump’s sole appointee to that court, Gregory Katsas, recused himself.

 

 

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Self inflicted...

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[Bama Chick 28596]

Jacob’s mom has got it going on.

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[triplehorn 2664]

2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/31/has-robert-mueller-subpoenaed-trump-222060

 

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 When the witness lost the first time in the circuit court (before the quick round-trip to the district court), he unusually petitioned for rehearing en banc – meaning he thought his case was so important that it merited the very unusual action of convening all 10 of the D.C. Circuit judges to review the order. That is itself telling (this witness believes his case demands very special handling), but the order disposing of the petition is even more telling: President Trump’s sole appointee to that court, Gregory Katsas, recused himself.

 

I wonder if Gorsuch and Kavanaugh would have to recuse if a personal Trump case reaches SCOTUS.

[Francisco 2.0 32389]

19 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

I wonder if Gorsuch and Kavanaugh would have to recuse if a personal Trump case reaches SCOTUS.

I suspect one of those two would be more than willing to recuse themselves.  The other would probably not out of loyalty.

[Chad Fuck 17673]

10 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

Those +3 other great kids must feel pretty special.  

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3 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

This isn't new. In the premiere episode of The Colbert Report, Stephen Colbert introduced the word "truthiness" which was defined as exactly that, belief in something becausse it feels true despite the absence of supporting facts and evidence. That was back in 2005. 

Like  I've said before, the George W Bush presidency foreshadowed all of this. Trump is just turning it up to 11. 

Karl Rove derided Ron Suskind for living in the "reality-based community," and said "when we act, we create our own reality." That was in 2004.

[bolverk 29671]

2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/31/has-robert-mueller-subpoenaed-trump-222060

 

 

 

 

 

Hey, could someone cross check the dotard's tweet tantrums with the above dates? Personally, I don't have the stomach for it.

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[WhatTheBuck 28777]

2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Karl Rove derided Ron Suskind for living in the "reality-based community," and said "when we act, we create our own reality." That was in 2004.

Yep. And George nicknamed him "Turd Blossom." I assume that was in reference to his political skills of being able to find his man in a world of shit and make him come out smelling like a rose. Dubya liked to give everyone nicknames. They weren't mean and abusive like Trump's, but the foreshadowing was there. 

Bush said either you're with us or you're with the terrorists. Trump has taken that divide to the extreme. You either support him completely, without question, or you're the enemy. Stephen Miller said the president's power will not be questioned. Again, turning it up to 11. 

When Bush named his bloated expansion of government the Dept. of Homeland Security, we were reminded of Hitler's use of the term "Fatherland" and worried that it smacked of creeping fascism. Look where we are now. We have a president who defends Nazis. 

I really never thought it could get worse than the Bush/Cheney years but we've seen this before. Just not to this extreme. 

[JimmyHoffa 1188]

4 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

This isn't new. In the premiere episode of The Colbert Report, Stephen Colbert introduced the word "truthiness" which was defined as exactly that, belief in something becausse it feels true despite the absence of supporting facts and evidence. That was back in 2005. 

Like  I've said before, the George W Bush presidency foreshadowed all of this. Trump is just turning it up to 11. 

 

It didn't start with GW. It's fucking politics it's been happening forever, the internet and social media just made it easier to spread the word all over the world instead of just those passing you buy as you yell stupid conspiracy theories from the street corner you're standing on. 

That said it definitively has been turned up to 11. 

Edited October 31, 2018 by JimmyHoffa

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51 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

I wonder if Gorsuch and Kavanaugh would have to recuse if a personal Trump case reaches SCOTUS.

If Trump had known that they'd recuse themselves, he'd have chosen someone different for the Supreme Court.  Though I would love to see Gorsuch or Kavanaugh get the Sessions treatment on Twitter.

Edited October 31, 2018 by Degenerate Gardner

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12 hours ago, triplehorn said:

 

I got 45 cents American says that Wohl's 6-pack musculature was lifted from a Halloween Hulk costume.

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34 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

I got 45 cents American says that Wohl's 6-pack musculature was lifted from a Halloween Hulk costume.

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1 hour ago, JimmyHoffa said:

It didn't start with GW. It's fucking politics it's been happening forever, the internet and social media just made it easier to spread the word all over the world instead of just those passing you buy as you yell stupid conspiracy theories from the street corner you're standing on. 

That said it definitively has been turned up to 11. 

Which Republican president prior to Dubya was in favor of torture?

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

Hey, could someone cross check the dotard's tweet tantrums with the above dates? Personally, I don't have the stomach for it.

I'm not sure, but + rep to counter @NameWithHeld negging you for this post. 

[RDCanecutter 26420]

Just now, WhatTheBuck said:

Which Republican president prior to Dubya was in favor of torture?

Lincoln. Vampire victims were too much in thrall to their undead masters to talk, otherwise.

[Mdhorn 5949]

2 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

I got 45 cents American says that Wohl's 6-pack musculature was lifted from a Halloween Hulk costume.

it's that sloping, misshapen, viewers right lower ab that seems to be falling out of place. Looks like an orange got loose.

Edited October 31, 2018 by Mdhorn

[Yuk 1532]

If that is not a subpoena for DJT, it's hard to imagine who (on an appeal to quash a subpoena) would warrant convening all 10 DC Circuit judges and also lead to the Katsas recusal.

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1 minute ago, Yuk said:

If that is not a subpoena for DJT, it's hard to imagine who (on an appeal to quash a subpoena) would warrant convening all 10 DC Circuit judges and also lead to the Katsas recusal.

crispy and johnny no-sac just wet themselves. 

[texastough 1129]

3 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

Those +3 other great kids must feel pretty special.  

If Jacob is the child that dad is most proud of, I don’t want to think about what the others are like

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4 points. 

The whole Jacob story is really bizzare.  Hard to even follow.  Really crazy folks that, if what they are accused of doing is true, should absolutely be prosecuted.

The common takes by the usual suspects on Papa could not be more wrong and stupid.

That tweet above about a trump secret subpoena are hilarious.  

You guys need to start preparing for life after Mueller says there was no collusion and no obstruction.

 

[Pig Bellmont 8715]

45 minutes ago, Yuk said:

If that is not a subpoena for DJT, it's hard to imagine who (on an appeal to quash a subpoena) would warrant convening all 10 DC Circuit judges and also lead to the Katsas recusal.

There’s just no way Trump would keep that procedure a secret. He was dying to fight a subpoena. Twitter would burn down 

[DDD Dad 14336]

4 points. 
The whole Jacob story is really bizzare.  Hard to even follow.  Really crazy folks that, if what they are accused of doing is true, should absolutely be prosecuted.
The common takes by the usual suspects on Papa could not be more wrong and stupid.
That tweet above about a trump secret subpoena are hilarious.  
You guys need to start preparing for life after Mueller says there was no collusion and no obstruction.
 

Whistling past the graveyard, asking questions.

[Mdhorn 5949]

4 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

There’s just no way Trump would keep that procedure a secret. He was dying to fight a subpoena. Twitter would burn down 

Well, DOTARD would have to understand it was a subpoena first.  For all he knows, it could just be yet another lawsuit.  Which means, somebody is going to have to sit down with him and draw pictures for awhile until he can conceptualize what is being issued. 

[JimmyHoffa 1188]

2 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Which Republican president prior to Dubya was in favor of torture?

 

What exactly did my post have to do with torture? It was about those in DC making shit up to push a narrative. And sorry that shit has been going on long before W was in office. 

[High Plains Drifter 11045]

3 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

I got 45 cents American says that Wohl's 6-pack musculature was lifted from a Halloween Hulk costume.

I'm more worried about where he lifted that shirt from.

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Mock twitter accounts are the best thing about twitter.

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1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

There’s just no way Trump would keep that procedure a secret. He was dying to fight a subpoena. Twitter would burn down 

Trump would totally want to keep that procedure a secret.  Nothing says “guilty as fuck” like taking the 5th or fighting a subpoena as POTUS. 

The optics are just dogshit.  

[Kyrie Eleison 9312]

38 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

I'm more worried about where he lifted that shirt from.

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46 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

I'm more worried about where he lifted that shirt from.

Clearly he weighs at least 20 lbs more than them.

[sidis 9827]

one thing that is really interesting to me about ordeals like this is the predilection of the more zany of the right wing types (e.g. qanon, alex jones, etc...) have a real tendency to really fall back to "false flag" narratives whenever something especially nutty happens such as the bomb mailer last week.  some libertarians have a real penchant for the narrative as well...though those tend to be more tied to foreign actions as prelude to kinetic, deadly actions.

however, when you really think about the more intricate (though idiotic in execution) efforts at such misleading and disingenuous efforts as the jacobs wohl and jack burkman above...or james o'keefe, etc... they tend to have a certain persuasion and efforted towards certain goals aligning with most of the conspiracy minded loons.

it is like the ultimate projection.

[Biff Tannen 45678]

8 minutes ago, sidis said:

one thing that is really interesting to me about ordeals like this is the predilection of the more zany of the right wing types (e.g. qanon, alex jones, etc...) have a real tendency to really fall back to "false flag" narratives whenever something especially nutty happens such as the bomb mailer last week.  some libertarians have a real penchant for the narrative as well...though those tend to be more tied to foreign actions as prelude to kinetic, deadly actions.

however, when you really think about the more intricate (though idiotic in execution) efforts at such misleading and disingenuous efforts as the jacobs wohl and jack burkman above...or james o'keefe, etc... they tend to have a certain persuasion and efforted towards certain goals aligning with most of the conspiracy minded loons.

it is like the ultimate projection.

You're the conspiracy!