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2 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

I agree that there’s a lot of evidence that Pence thinks about sucking dicks in bathrooms for money, I’m just not yet completely convinced that he does yet. He might suck dicks in bathrooms for money. Not saying he doesn’t. But I’ll guess we shall see. 

If he does it, it's not for money. It's for enjoyment. 

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Just to make sure I have the alternative facts straight...  Our government -- but I'm guessing only the deep state part of it --- is now guilty of torturing a poor, naive Russian exchange student who

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liberals suddenly being terrified of Russia and manic for election integrity is just pure comedy gold.

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I don't believe for a moment that any of this is entertaining to you.  I think it gives you a bit of anxiety knowing that your best weapon against a group who you despise is a bumbling fraud as a busi

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I agree that there’s a lot of evidence that Pence thinks about sucking dicks in bathrooms for money, I’m just not yet completely convinced that he does yet. He might suck dicks in bathrooms for money. Not saying he doesn’t. But I’ll guess we shall see. 
I haven't seen any non-evidence yet.
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Full circle back to this Business Insider article from March 2017 and JD Gordon intervening to change the RNC platform to limit US arming Ukraine against hostile Russian activity.

Direct Trump campaign involvement in odd alteration in RNC Ukraine platform <---> Maria Butina-Torshin <---> NRA.

but just remember that it's a grand illusion.

 

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Full circle back to this Business Insider article from March 2017 and JD Gordon intervening to change the RNC platform to limit US arming Ukraine against hostile Russian activity.
Direct Trump campaign involvement in odd alteration in RNC Ukraine platform Maria Butina-Torshin  NRA.
but just remember that it's a grand illusion.
 

Why we gotta bring Styx into this? Y’all fuckers start shitting on Paradise Theater, and Brisket’s gonna have to cut someone.
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So earlier today I was at a relatives house and we were discussing wasteful government spending and the first example of a wasted of money from her was the Mueller investigation.

I told her I was very disappointed in her and asked if the Benghazi investigation was a waste of money.

She said they didn’t get Hillary so yes, it was a waste of money.

I then politely walked out of the house and drove home.

Apparently crimes shouldn’t be investigated anymore.

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1 hour ago, sheeeit said:

Obvious sock. 

No, his usage makes sense.  Yours was an obvious mistake from a troll with multiple socks.  But it's so telling that you are desperate to seize on something like this 6 weeks after outing yourself. 

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4 hours ago, triplehorn said:

Full circle back to this Business Insider article from March 2017 and JD Gordon intervening to change the RNC platform to limit US arming Ukraine against hostile Russian activity.

Direct Trump campaign involvement in odd alteration in RNC Ukraine platform <---> Maria Butina-Torshin <---> NRA.

but just remember that it's a grand illusion.

 

Wonder how many tapes there are of her ducking various RNC officials.  Given what we know about, I’m guessing she allowed more than just the tip.

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Full circle back to this Business Insider article from March 2017 and JD Gordon intervening to change the RNC platform to limit US arming Ukraine against hostile Russian activity.

Direct Trump campaign involvement in odd alteration in RNC Ukraine platform <---> Maria Butina-Torshin <---> NRA.

but just remember that it's a grand illusion.

 

secret secret I've got a secret

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Yeah, that's it Donald.  

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/400413-trump-believes-mueller-is-using-manafort-trial-to-embarrass-him

 

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President Trump has reportedly been privately venting about the trial of his former campaign head Paul Manafort, believing that it is an attempt by special counsel Robert Mueller to embarrass him.

The Washington Post reported Saturday that Trump thinks both the media and Mueller are using this week's trial on Manafort's bank and tax fraud charges to try to undercut his presidency.

“He is completely outraged by the way Manafort has been treated, with the solitary confinement and all of that,” Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani told The Post. “It’s obvious to him that they’re all but torturing Manafort in order to try to get him to flip.”

The trial is the first in Mueller’s probe into Russian election interference, which the president has long claimed is rigged against him and is a “witch hunt.” Manafort has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

The Post reported that Trump has approved of Judge T.S. Ellis, who is presiding over the trial: Ellis chided federal prosecutors for presenting too much evidence on Manafort’s spending, and told attorneys on both sides to "rein in their facial expressions."

 

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Yeah, that's it Donald.  

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/400413-trump-believes-mueller-is-using-manafort-trial-to-embarrass-him

 

 

Trump might actually be right in this case. Mueller could be playing mind games with Trump over Manafort...hear me out.

The only people that know Trump’s real financial situation are Mueller team and Trump.  

The prosecution is painting Manafort as a guy that loved leading an extremely lavish lifestyle when in reality he was flat broke and desperate for cash to keep his image going.

So desperate he repeatedly committed all kinds of financial crimes. 

Sounds a lot like a case of the Trumps.

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Did Alleged Russian Spy Maria Butina Cause a Leadership Shake-up at the NRA?

Weeks after the feds raided Butina’s apartment, the gun group’s president made a hasty exit.

DAVID CORNAUG. 3, 2018 7:54 AM

 

On May 7, the National Rifle Association released a curious press release declaring that Oliver North, the key player in the Iran-contra scandal and an NRA board member, was “poised to become” the group’s president. Earlier that day, Peter Brownell, then finishing his first term as NRA president, had announced that he would not seek a second annual term in order to devote more time to his family business, a firearms retail company.

This changing of the guard—and how it happened—was odd. For fifteen years, the NRA leadership had followed a specific pattern: an officer was elected by the board to serve two consecutive annual terms as second vice president, then two as first vice president, and, finally, two as president. But the Brownell-to-North transition broke this orderly process. North at the time was serving in neither vice president position. And his ascension was a surprise—even to North. The day of the move, North told NRATV, “I didn’t expect this to be happening…This was very sudden.” (North also remarked, “A coup is being worked against the president of the United States and every conservative organization on the planet.”)

This development puzzled NRA watchers. North had not been in the line of succession. He was not prepared for the position and said he would need weeks before he could assume the post. Brownell was the first NRA president in a decade and a half not to seek a second term, and the first vice president, Richard Childress, was passed over. Childress claimed that because of his own commitments he could not even serve as interim president. That job went to the second vice president, Carolyn Meadows. The NRA had been known as an outfit with a strict hierarchy. But now all that was being thrown aside in what North called an “unexpected” and “sudden” action. 

What wasn’t publicly known at the time was that on April 25—two weeks before this seemingly hasty NRA leadership makeover—FBI agents in tactical gear raided the apartment of Maria Butina, a 29-year-old Russian who three months later would be charged by federal prosecutors for allegedly serving as a secret agent for the Russian government in the United States. For years, Butina and her mentor, Alexander Torshin, a Russian official tied to Vladimir Putin, had hooked up with the NRA and other conservative groups, allegedly as part of what the Justice Department called a covert influence operation. Butina, who ran a gun rights group in Russia, and Torshin, who has been accused of money laundering (a charge he denies), had attended NRA events and other right-wing get-togethers, and during the 2016 campaign used their NRA contacts to try to arrange a meeting between Putin and Donald Trump. (It didn’t happen.) During this operation, according to prosecutors, Butina relied upon the assistance of conservative consultant Paul Erickson, her romantic partner and an active NRA member. 

Did the FBI investigation of Butina lead to Brownell’s quick retreat from the NRA leadership? The NRA did not respond to a request for comment. And neither did Brownell. “He’s not taking calls,” the receptionist at his company says. 

Brownell did have history with Butina. In 2015, she organized a trip to Russia for an NRA delegation that included Brownell, top NRA donor Joe Gregory, and David Clarke, then the Milwaukee County sheriff. During that jaunt, the NRAers met with Dmitry Rogozin, the deputy prime minister, who had been sanctioned by the Obama administration in 2014 in retaliation for Putin’s intervention in Ukraine. Rogozin led the ultra-right party Rodina, and his government portfolio included a matter of particular interest to this delegation: the arms industry. He had the task of overseeing Russia’s military-industrial complex and rejuvenating the nation’s weapons-making business. 

While Brownell, then the NRA’s first vice president, and his NRA colleagues were in Moscow, they visited the headquarters of ORSIS, a private arms manufacturer. Accompanied by Butina, they watched a video extolling the ORSIS T-5000, a highly accurate sniper rifle that had been identified by the Pentagon as a threat to American troops. They toured the company’s manufacturing plant and observed rifles being made. They also test-fired ORSIS rifles at an on-site shooting range. The firm presented the NRA group with watches bearing the company’s logo. Weeks later, the company produced a promotional video showing the NRA delegates gushing over the T-5000. The video was posted on YouTube. That is, Brownell and the others, who had been escorted to the ORSIS offices by Butina, were helping ORSIS sell a rifle that worried US military planners. 

During that visit, Brownell and the NRA delegation met Svetlana Nikolaeva, the president of the parent company of ORSIS. (She appears in that promotional video with the NRA crew.) In what was likely not a coincidence, Nikolaeva’s oligarch husband, Konstantin Nikolaev, provided financial support to Butina, according to private testimony Butina gave to Senate investigators this year before she was charged. (One document filed by federal prosecutors maintains that Butina has “ties to the Russian oligarchy.”)

The Butina case has been an embarrassment for the NRA, which has yet to comment on it, and, more important, it has raised questions about interactions between the gun lobby and Russia, including the possibility of Russian sources funneling money to the NRA. (According to a BuzzFeed report, Butina and Erickson engaged in financial transactions totaling nearly $300,000 that were flagged by banking investigators as suspicious.) A previous NRA president, David Keene, who was part of that delegation to Russia, enthusiastically pledged his assistance to Butina and her Russian organization. And Brownell was smack-dab in the middle of the NRA-Butina connection. 

If Brownwell’s departure as top gun at the NRA was not related to the Butina case, then the gun lobby was quite fortunate he was gone by the time this scandal exploded.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/08/did-alleged-russian-spy-maria-butina-cause-a-leadership-shake-up-at-the-nra-1/

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Since the NRA spent 46 million it did not have in 2016 with 50 million in donations to political campaigns it seems likely to me that they spent their Russian donations on political campaigns. But, the FBI would need to have detailed account information or a confession of an insider to prove it.

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10 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Yeah, that's it Donald.  

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/400413-trump-believes-mueller-is-using-manafort-trial-to-embarrass-him

“He is completely outraged by the way Manafort has been treated, with the solitary confinement and all of that,” Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani told The Post. “It’s obvious to him that they’re all but torturing Manafort in order to try to get him to flip.”

You can't "flip" on an innocent man, Rudy. But you know that. You know damn well you're working for a criminal. 

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8 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

As if anyone can embarrass Donald Trump more than he embarrasses himself.

Donald Trump has never been embarrassed in his life. He is not capable of processing that emotion. 

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1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

Man, the shit coming out of him and his defenders is just going to get more and more ludicrous as the walls close in.  Since it is a foregone conclusion, I'm going to take the Bart Scott "can't wait" route.

I am very scared by the end game in all this.  I don't think Trump goes gracefully in the night. 

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I am very scared by the end game in all this.  I don't think Trump goes gracefully in the night. 

Probably not. But when SHTF and it’s time for him to step down, the 60% of that haven’t lost our minds have to stand up and tell him to GTFO and take his euro trash wife and inbred spawn with him. 

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“Adoption meeting” has gone right out. Along with “what meeting?”
 

This is a direct admission that Trump lied about the contents of the meeting, and asked his subordinates to lie as well. Pretty soon, everyone will just admit to colluding and the senate won't give a shit. 

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On 5/16/2018 at 11:50 AM, sheeeit said:

How about a couple of you read the pages?  Jr, Rinat, nataliya, Kushner, the interpreter, Ike they all tell the exact same story.  This whole episode was nothing.  Yet it has consumed you guys for a year or more.

Do any of you have any objectivity left at all?  Can anyone read these transcripts and still believe that anything illegal/nefarious/conspirational/immoral/unethical or anything like that happened at this meeting?  It is ridiculous.

It is also kind of funny how the russians involved all talk about how the media stories about this and them are total fabrications.

Can any of you just admit that the media played you in this particular case?  

This didn’t age well.

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