The Robert Mueller Investigation

[Bama Chick 28596]

Yeah she’s super hot.

But I get that men and women factor different things into fuckability.

There isn’t anyone hot enough to override Twitter crazy and stone cold stupid and abhorrent politics.

Plus, I could never follow where Papadorkoulos has been. The kind of shit that’s wrong with him could be contagious.

[Chooky 13307]

4 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Yeah she’s super hot.

But I get that men and women factor different things into fuckability.

There isn’t anyone hot enough to override Twitter crazy and stone cold stupid and abhorrent politics.

Plus, I could never follow where Papadorkoulos has been. The kind of shit that’s wrong with him could be contagious.

Agreed.  Eventually she'd start talking and the dumb would be so heavy that'd it have a smell.

Edited November 13, 2018 by Chooky

[Ten Bears 2481]

5 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Yeah she’s super hot.

But I get that men and women factor different things into fuckability.

There isn’t anyone hot enough to override Twitter crazy and stone cold stupid and abhorrent politics.

Plus, I could never follow where Papadorkoulos has been. The kind of shit that’s wrong with him could be contagious.

So you're saying you would.   Just not after Papadork?  Nice.

[Dutchrudder 11139]

1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

 

So when did Drudge delete all his tweets?  

[Pig Bellmont 8717]

1 minute ago, Dutchrudder said:

So when did Drudge delete all his tweets?  

I didn’t verify the info, just passing along Mueller rumors 

[The People’s Elbow 707]

None of that matters. I’d be shocked if Twitter hasn’t been served and compelled to preserve several individuals’ Tweets. Nothing is ever deleted.

[triplehorn 2664]

Russia claiming attack was an act of war ?  Like triggering NATO Article 5 (Collective Defense) act of war ?  Ok, Vlad.

[FondrenRoad 4378]

2 minutes ago, The People’s Elbow said:

None of that matters. I’d be shocked if Twitter hasn’t been served and compelled to preserve several individuals’ Tweets. Nothing is ever deleted.

Your last sentence is inaccurate.  Absent a preservation order, their policy is:

"NOTE: Once an account has been deactivated, there is a very brief period in which we may be able to access account information, including Tweets. More information about deactivated accounts is available here. Content removed by account holders (e.g., Tweets) is generally not available.:

[texastough 1129]

*who* called it an act of war? A Russian defendant or is the Russian government a party to the litigation?

[atomheartbevo 89659]

So when Rupert Murdoch visited McConnell in his office, with him was (apparently) Robert Thompson - News Corp CEO.  

That was on the 8th. Same day FNC twitter went silent. 

Conspiracy theories are fun when you get juicy material to work with. 

[Gil Bang 25952]

16 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

So when did Drudge delete all his tweets?  

Monday AM I believe. 

[triplehorn 2664]

13 minutes ago, texastough said:

*who* called it an act of war? A Russian defendant or is the Russian government a party to the litigation?

Russia Declares ‘Absolute Immunity’ in DNC’s Election Interference Lawsuit

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Vladimir Putin’s government on Friday filed its first formal response to the Democrats’ election interference lawsuit, asserting “sovereign immunity” from any action in U.S. courts. “The Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation has the honor to convey the enclosed Statement of Immunity by the Russian Federation as to the allegations … by the Democratic National Committee,” reads a letter received by U.S. District Judge John Koeltl, who’s overseeing the DNC’s lawsuit in New York.

The letter is signed by Mikhail Vinogradov, the Russian ministry’s director of international law and cooperation, and includes a 12-page legal analysis arguing that international convention and the U.S. Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act bar the courts from getting involved in diplomatic and political matters, including computer intrusions by another government’s military. “Indeed, the United States benefits significantly from the sovereign immunity that it enjoys (and U.S. officials enjoy) in foreign courts around the world with respect to the United States’ frequent acts of cyber intrusion and political interference,” reads the filing.  

[...]

In its filing, Russia says that any “alleged ‘military attack,’” even online, is immune from the courts. “Significantly, neither the Executive nor the U.S. Congress has taken any steps to involve the Judicial Branch in their response” to the election interference, the filing claims, evidently overlooking Robert Mueller’s July indictment against 12 GRU officers who allegedly carried out the attacks.

 

To clarify, they are calling it a "military attack", not act of "war."  Under the circumstances, that's some thin ice.  Sec Def Mattis has specifically spoken about cyber as being one of the domains considered to represent active warfare.

 

Edited November 13, 2018 by triplehorn

[Bama Chick 28596]

So you're saying you would.   Just not after Papadork?  Nice.

Well, being sloppy seconds to that shitbiscuit is just icing.

The real reason she’s a no fly zone for me is the insanity and stupidity and gross politics.

I have standards, sir.

[Captainant 27661]

Lmao, so the Russian government is hiding behind the justification that their actions were acts of war, but we still have trump claiming that nothing happened?

Rather incongruous ideas. 

[hayden_horn 11362]

12 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So when Rupert Murdoch visited McConnell in his office, with him was (apparently) Robert Thompson - News Corp CEO.  

That was on the 8th. Same day FNC twitter went silent. 

Conspiracy theories are fun when you get juicy material to work with. 

that's a pretty big coincidence. there's got to be something to it. got to be.

[BurntOrange&White 39931]

I think A LOT of people were informed of their indictments

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3868]

17 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So when Rupert Murdoch visited McConnell in his office, with him was (apparently) Robert Thompson - News Corp CEO.  

That was on the 8th. Same day FNC twitter went silent. 

Conspiracy theories are fun when you get juicy material to work with. 

Isn't Thompson's wife the daughter of a Chinese General?

[sheeeit 129]

6 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Lmao, so the Russian government is hiding behind the justification that their actions were acts of war, but we still have trump claiming that nothing happened?

Rather incongruous ideas. 

You kind of have to read what they said.  They did not, in any way, admit to any hacking.  They are trying a legal argument that the court has no jurisdiction because what they are accusing Russia of doing is protected.  It is an interesting legal strategy but they did not admit to anything.

I do not know anyone that believes that Russia did not meddle in the elections.  The argument is whether they coordinated with Trump et al (I do not think they did) and, to a lesser degree, how much their actions actually influenced anything (i do not think enough to make an appreciable difference).

[David Dennison 18856]

Just now, sheeeit said:

You kind of have to read what they said.  They did not, in any way, admit to any hacking.  They are trying a legal argument that the court has no jurisdiction because what they are accusing Russia of doing is protected.  It is an interesting legal strategy but they did not admit to anything.

I do not know anyone that believes that Russia did not meddle in the elections.  The argument is whether they coordinated with Trump et al (I do not think they did) and, to a lesser degree, how much their actions actually influenced anything (i do not think enough to make an appreciable difference).

They absolutely coordinated with Don Jr.

[atomheartbevo 89659]

4 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

Isn't Thompson's wife the daughter of a Chinese General?

Yep.  

He’s the slender man-looking dude in the photo of people going into McConnell’s office.  

[sheeeit 129]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

They absolutely coordinated with Don Jr.

Great.  Then Mueller will nail them.  

[atomheartbevo 89659]

Who’s the guy in front. Staffer?

 

[David Dennison 18856]

Just now, sheeeit said:

Great.  Then Mueller will nail them.  

Donald Trump seems to agree.

[triplehorn 2664]

Remember how Papadop's primary contact, Prof. Mifsud, disappeared from the face of the earth and was thought to possibly be dead ?

He's alive.  And negotiating with SSCI for an interview:

 

Spoiler

 

 

Edited November 13, 2018 by triplehorn

[TornACL 7698]

8 minutes ago, sheeeit said:

You kind of have to read what they said.  They did not, in any way, admit to any hacking.  They are trying a legal argument that the court has no jurisdiction because what they are accusing Russia of doing is protected.  It is an interesting legal strategy but they did not admit to anything.

I do not know anyone that believes that Russia did not meddle in the elections.  The argument is whether they coordinated with Trump et al (I do not think they did) and, to a lesser degree, how much their actions actually influenced anything (i do not think enough to make an appreciable difference).

If #1 is true, it doesn't matter if #2 is true or not.

[triplehorn 2664]

3 minutes ago, TornACL said:

If #1 is true, it doesn't matter if #2 is true or not.

Let's prosecute the whole damn international multimedia operation and test the air in 24 months for comparison.

[Dahobbs 17534]

20 minutes ago, sheeeit said:

You kind of have to read what they said.  They did not, in any way, admit to any hacking.  They are trying a legal argument that the court has no jurisdiction because what they are accusing Russia of doing is protected.  It is an interesting legal strategy but they did not admit to anything.

I do not know anyone that believes that Russia did not meddle in the elections.  The argument is whether they coordinated with Trump et al (I do not think they did) and, to a lesser degree, how much their actions actually influenced anything (i do not think enough to make an appreciable difference).

This is correct. It isn't an admission. It is "even if it were true, there is no liability." This is very common in legal work, assuming an opposing position is true simply for the purpose of showing it is moot.  

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

20 minutes ago, sheeeit said:

You kind of have to read what they said.  They did not, in any way, admit to any hacking.  They are trying a legal argument that the court has no jurisdiction because what they are accusing Russia of doing is protected.  It is an interesting legal strategy but they did not admit to anything.

 I do not know anyone that believes that Russia did not meddle in the elections.  The argument is whether they coordinated with Trump et al (I do not think they did) and, to a lesser degree, how much their actions actually influenced anything (i do not think enough to make an appreciable difference).

Good post. Tons of briefs, especially in motions to dismiss, start with the proposition of "if what they are saying is true, then . . ."  Too many people on this thread miss the "if."  There are times when you're writing those and the lawyer has barely talked to the defendant and has no idea *if* the allegations are true.

[Dahobbs 17534]

45 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Your last sentence is inaccurate.  Absent a preservation order, their policy is:

"NOTE: Once an account has been deactivated, there is a very brief period in which we may be able to access account information, including Tweets. More information about deactivated accounts is available here. Content removed by account holders (e.g., Tweets) is generally not available.:

Read the first part of his post: he is assuming (rightfully in my opinion) that a preservation request has already been served to Twitter. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[atomheartbevo 89659]

I don’t know if it’s more suited for the GOP twitter thread or this, but in thinking about Murdoch and Thompson quietly meeting with McConnell the same day FNC’s twitter feeds went dead.....if you’re protesting theTucker thing, if people don’t actually know what or why you are protesting, the protest is completely useless.  

You post a tweet saying that you are stopping all FNC tweets in protest of Tucker’s info being on twitter, and that people should only go to FoxNews.com.

By going completely cold, people have no idea what the hell is going on (making you look incompetent), and you lose some traffic.  

Helluva coincidence FNC goes cold on twitter the same day as that meeting. 

Edited November 13, 2018 by atomheartbevo

[kevwun 15783]

That is a really good point and I think you're right.  There's also a 0% chance Fox News passed on the opportunity of a final "woe is us" tweet explaining their boycott.

Edited November 13, 2018 by kevwun

[RomaVicta 29907]

48 minutes ago, sheeeit said:

You kind of have to read what they said.  They did not, in any way, admit to any hacking.  They are trying a legal argument that the court has no jurisdiction because what they are accusing Russia of doing is protected.  It is an interesting legal strategy but they did not admit to anything.

I do not know anyone that believes that Russia did not meddle in the elections.  The argument is whether they coordinated with Trump et al (I do not think they did) and, to a lesser degree, how much their actions actually influenced anything (i do not think enough to make an appreciable difference).

I don't know anyone who doesn't believe that something happened to poor Dr. Ford. The argument is whether the perpetrator was Judge Kavanaugh. Despite the fact that he consistently lied about everything to the committee, and that Dr. Ford insisted on being as truthful in every detail as she could, I have to conclude that it is a Dem conspiracy to smear poor Judge Kavanaugh.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Now this is interesting:  from the article above 

 

The defendant and his accomplices are accused of tricking advertisers into making payments for fake online traffic to their websites and ads, which was generated by software that they created to resemble real users browsing the internet.

They are accused by US authorities of having maintained a computer network with servers in Dallas, Texas.

 

According to the arrest warrant issued by the US District Court for the eastern district of New York, the crimes were committed between September 2014 and December 2016.

 

 

[The Royal We 3072]

The timing does seem like more than a coincidence, but what do they gain or what is their goal by going dark?  Were they previously tweeting self incriminating content?

[Gil Bang 25952]

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33869]

1 minute ago, Gil Bang said:

 

I hope they're all yes/no questions.

[RomaVicta 29907]

5 minutes ago, The Royal We said:

The timing does seem like more than a coincidence, but what do they gain or what is their goal by going dark?  Were they previously tweeting self incriminating content?

Perhaps they closed their accounts in hopes that Twitter would delete them per their policy quoted above. I'm just guessing. I'm neither a lawyer nor a social media expert.

[kevwun 15783]

I'll tell you who could convince them they needed to shutup on twitter.  Their attorneys.

Edited November 13, 2018 by kevwun

[RayDog 682]

27 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

I hope it is not anyone I know from Varna.

[CowboyFred 1151]

[hayden_horn 11362]

 

[sheeeit 129]

4 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

I don't know anyone who doesn't believe that something happened to poor Dr. Ford. The argument is whether the perpetrator was Judge Kavanaugh. Despite the fact that he consistently lied about everything to the committee, and that Dr. Ford insisted on being as truthful in every detail as she could, I have to conclude that it is a Dem conspiracy to smear poor Judge Kavanaugh.

ok...?    

[The Royal We 3072]

Whatever it is, things sure seem to be heating up quickly.  Could be the biggest Felony Friday event ever this week!

[Chooky 13307]

Special Counsel's office:  Yes, by all means, take your time and allow Mr. Corsi to livestream comments about possible indictments to the world.  And we're also perfectly willing to provide you even more time to interview with NBC News about these matters.

Mr. Corsi's lawyer:  Wait a minute.  This seems strange all of the sudden.  Maybe we should play this a different way.

[Gil Bang 25952]

 

[Gil Bang 25952]

 

[RomaVicta 29907]

3 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

 

[Chooky 13307]

3 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

 

Frustrated and fatigued from defeat and embarrassment, George hurriedly poured himself a glass of 2% milk that expired in September.  "Damn them!  Damn them all," he bellowed before taking a drink. 

[retread 2951]

Maybe spend a little less time posting selfies with Tits McGee on Twitter next time. hth