The Robert Mueller Investigation

[High Plains Drifter 10970]

22 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The most remarkable thing to me in the Mueller investigation is how Jared Kushner has managed to fly under the radar throughout all this.  Kushner is in the middle of almost everyone of these tentacles. 

Digital operation with Cambridge Analytica 

treason meeting in Trump tower 

secret Kremlin backchannel 

dirty Russian money 

Kushner Kushner Kushner

 

That damage control PR firm he hired a year ago must have been money well spent.

He's the only one that is not a complete moron.

[WhatTheBuck 28700]

15 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

tough shit cunt

Maybe they could hire Pussy Riot to do a promotional tour advocating for her freedom. 

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3867]

14 minutes ago, Yuk said:

Russia doesn't even bother imprisoning "political prisoners".  The prisoners are usually kind enough to defenestrate themselves.

I was all ready to go to the that's a mighty fancy word for 'jumping' out a window until I looked up the definition and found out one of its meanings is being thrown out of a window.

Edited December 6, 2018 by ShaggyBevo RIP

[WhatTheBuck 28700]

1 minute ago, High Plains Drifter said:

He's the only one that is not a complete moron.

All the evidence suggests otherwise. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

20 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Now that she's talking, her life expectancy once back on Russian soil would be measured in days.

Normally I would agree with you but Russian media has worked pretty hard to make her something of a hero/sympathetic figure among their domestic audiences.  

Moreover, Butina doesn’t strike me as a master spy that would have a ton of useful information regarding Kremlin spy craft.  

Her plea deal would likely be to turn on American confederates as opposed to other Russians. 

I still think she ends up back in Russia once it’s all said and done. 

[pyrohornIII 4801]

This is like a game of uno, but instead of numbers you get characters, countries and groups, and instead of colors you get criminal offenses. 

Mueller holds all the draw 4 and wild cards.  

So back to the NRA:

 

[Ted Lange 15991]

Back in Russia, pushing for more gun rights for Russians.  

26 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Normally I would agree with you but Russian media has worked pretty hard to make her something of a hero/sympathetic figure among their domestic audiences.  

Moreover, Butina doesn’t strike me as a master spy that would have a ton of useful information regarding Kremlin spy craft.  

Her plea deal would likely be to turn on American confederates as opposed to other Russians. 

I still think she ends up back in Russia once it’s all said and done. 

 

[BurntOrange&White 39486]

 
tough shit cunt

Russia wants her dead

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

not making a prediction but it wouldn’t surprise me if some new indictments come out tomorrow.  Only because no one seems to expect it.

[Biff Tannen 45477]

4 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

not making a prediction but it wouldn’t surprise me if some new indictments come out tomorrow.  Only because no one seems to expect it.

CNN had a headline earlier that said they very much expected it

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

14 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

CNN had a headline earlier that said they very much expected it

Seems like Mueller likes drops shit in bunches.  No one saw Papadopolus coming but his paperwork dropped the same day as Manafort/Gates.  

I think they’re holding off on Stone until they get Assange wrapped up or exhausted. 

[Anastasis 23375]

22 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Seems like Mueller likes drops shit in bunches.  No one saw Papadopolus coming but his paperwork dropped the same day as Manafort/Gates.  

I think they’re holding off on Stone until they get Assange wrapped up or exhausted. 

well my stone indicted by 12/31 position on predictit is in the shitter, so mueller better hurry the fuck up. 

[Mack Tripper 693]

Seems like Mueller likes drops shit in bunches.  No one saw Papadopolus coming but his paperwork dropped the same day as Manafort/Gates.  
I think they’re holding off on Stone until they get Assange wrapped up or exhausted. 

Lol. Me too. I bailed on that when it dropped down to 50.

[Mack Tripper 693]

Lol. Me too. I bailed on that when it dropped down to 50.

Meant to quote the next post. Won’t let me edit. Oh well.

[Nolacycling 893]

5 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Normally I would agree with you but Russian media has worked pretty hard to make her something of a hero/sympathetic figure among their domestic audiences.  

Moreover, Butina doesn’t strike me as a master spy that would have a ton of useful information regarding Kremlin spy craft.  

Her plea deal would likely be to turn on American confederates as opposed to other Russians. 

I still think she ends up back in Russia once it’s all said and done. 

Comrade Snowball has turned against us. Not like Russia rewrites history at a whim 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

 

[Tuco 5076]

So that's why Trump had a hard-on for him.  Jesus. At first I thought it was a general attempt to connect the FBI investigation to the Democrats (his wife), but after a while it did seem to take on a personal tone. 

[Ted Lange 15991]

31 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

But McCabe is a deep state Hillary henchman. Why would he open himself up to legal discovery 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

It also explains why McCabe has been livid the entire time.

 

 

Edited December 7, 2018 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Thetexashammer 1062]

6 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

  Moreover, Butina doesn’t strike me as a master spy that would have a ton of useful information regarding Kremlin spy craft.  

You know a lot of master spies? 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

15 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

You know a lot of master spies? 

I know a lot about Maria Butina and that’s probably because she was a very shitty spy. 

[BrickHorn 18176]

Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I know a lot about Maria Butina and that’s probably because she was a very shitty spy. 

She wasn’t a spy.  She was a monkey wrench.  Her purpose is to sow chaos, to cause controversy and undermine institutions, to drive the partisan wedge deeper.  

That’s my theory anyway.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

18 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

She wasn’t a spy.  She was a monkey wrench.  Her purpose is to sow chaos, to cause controversy and undermine institutions, to drive the partisan wedge deeper.  

That’s my theory anyway.

Correct, she was an overt active measure as opposed to a covert operative clandestinely pretending to be an American for the Russian Federation like Anna Chapman and the other spies in operation ghost stories.

Edited December 7, 2018 by Hugo Stiglitz

[WhatTheBuck 28700]

21 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

She wasn’t a spy.  She was a monkey wrench.  Her purpose is to sow chaos, to cause controversy and undermine institutions, to drive the partisan wedge deeper.  

That’s my theory anyway.

She's not a spy in the traditionsl sense where she's undercover in a clandestine espionage operation. But she's still an agent of the Russian intelligence services employed in an influence campaign funded and directed by the state. She should be treated like any other foreign spy. 

[Anastasis 23375]

2 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

 She should be treated like any other foreign spy. 

With spankings.

Edited December 7, 2018 by Anastasis

[Yuk 1505]

Looking at Trump's twitter is very telling about tomorrow.  He throws these tantrums every time he gets bad news.

[Lurch 5919]

With spankings.

[hayden_horn 11360]

26 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Correct, she was an overt active measure as opposed to a covert operative clandestinely pretending to be an American for the Russian Federation like Anna Chapman and the other spies in operation ghost stories.

I would honey that pot

[Patrick Bateman 3903]

 

[Ted Lange 15991]

 

Figurelli!

[FondrenRoad 4378]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Correct, she was an overt active measure as opposed to a covert operative clandestinely pretending to be an American for the Russian Federation like Anna Chapman and the other spies in operation ghost stories.

That chick could have had me singing the Soviet national anthem. Butina, not so much. 

[Junior Miller 1502]

2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Correct, she was an overt active measure as opposed to a covert operative clandestinely pretending to be an American for the Russian Federation like Anna Chapman and the other spies in operation ghost stories.

Oh damn, come on Uncle Sam let me pound her pooper a few times before we execute her. You can leave the cuffs on. 

[Biff Tannen 45477]

34 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

 

Figurelli!

I hate you

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

 

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

Felony Friday?!

[BurntOrange&White 39486]

So they’re circling back to FISA abuse?

[Goredho 17302]

8 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

 

Figurelli!

Why do I have a feeling that if she honestly offers up all she knows, that this could be the development that winds up destroying the GOP?

Edited December 7, 2018 by Goredho

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13537]

9 minutes ago, Bevo VIII said:

So they’re circling back to FISA abuse?

Definitely reeks of desperation when they're just reheating shitty leftovers that were sad Griswald Christmas turkeys when they were fresh.

[pyrohornIII 4801]

3 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

They are trying to get Q strengthened.  Figuring if enough people join in the Qtard revolution, then martial law will have to be invoked, which will wash Mueller and everything he has done down the drain.  That is why you are seeing and hearing deep state and Q shit more often. 

[Tuco 5076]

17 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Why do I have a feeling that if she honestly offers up all she knows, that this could be the development that winds up destroying the GOP?

I'd guess the biggest direct impacts would be on the NRA, the Center for National Interest, George O'Neil, Sheriff Clark, and former Congressman Rohrabacher.  And, of course, she might testify to the officialness of the Russian effort, as it pertains to her. 

But I doubt she knows much beyond her particular sphere of actions.  I'm guessing of each of the individual efforts were fairly compartmentalized, only connecting on the Russia end, and sometimes on the Trump end. She might know about some of the contacts between Trump and/or Jr (or other Republicans) and the Russians through the NRA, but it's unlikely she directly witnessed them.  

I think the Cohen testimony may be more impactful on the GOP.  Something that keeps getting ignored: he was the deputy finance chair for the GOP.  He was in charge of fundraising and it's obvious he had zero ethical obstacles.  If the GOP was soliciting illegal donations, he was involved. 

[Post Oak 20182]

9 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

 

[atomheartbevo 89362]

Man he is in a twitter rampage this morning.  That comment earlier about a twitter spree being the response is spot-on.

oh, and. 

 

Edited December 7, 2018 by atomheartbevo

[Tuco 5076]

The idea of "Jesus taking the wheel" in this clusterfuck makes me wish I believed in Jesus. 

[SquishMitten 10395]

Ya know, if witches ARE real, it would be a pretty funny time to reveal themselves

[Longhorn94 2427]

it's hard to write a response when Trump wont tell the truth or admit any wrongdoing. i cant imagine representing him. any response will be completely and wholely unrelated to the mueller report. it will be a fan fiction that is all about how Trump is the unicorn that shits rainbows that we have all been looking for and the only detail will be conspiracy nut theories about how Mueller and crew are conflicted and should be disqualified. i think it will read a lot like the corsi filing where he filed a criminal complaint against mueller. the land of fiction and conspiracy is where this president and his team live.

Edited December 7, 2018 by Longhorn94

[Tuco 5076]

2 minutes ago, Longhorn94 said:

it's hard to write a response when Trump wont tell the truth or admit any wrongdoing. i cant imagine representing him. any response will be completely and wholely unrelated to the mueller report. it will be a fan fiction that is all about how Trump is the unicorn that shits rainbows that we have all been looking for and the only detail will be conspiracy nut theories about how Mueller and crew are conflicted and should be disqualified. i think it will read a lot like the corsi filing where he filed a criminal complaint against mueller. the land of fiction conspiracy is where this president and his team live.

Anytime there is a leak, it's always a fun game to guess why it leaked.  Sometime it's just some idiot who got too drunk at the bar or is fucking a young reporter, but frequently it's planned to control spin.  The leak about there being no response seems to be too wide spread to be a single idiot.  My guess is that it is damage control, not for Trump, but for much of the support staff who are looking beyond Trump and how they will be viewed.  They know the response will look idiotic, and they want to make it clear it's not indicative of their work, but rather of an overall Trump dysfunction.  With Kelly on his way out, I'm guessing much of it is coming from his camp.    

[bolverk 29360]

26 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Man he is in a twitter rampage this morning.  That comment earlier about a twitter spree being the response is spot-on.

oh, and. 

 

Those "87 pages" are various scattered pages of random notes scribbled by junior staff trying to translate his rambling tantrums.

[lemonlime 5503]

1 minute ago, bolverk said:

Those "87 pages" are various scattered pages of random notes scribbled by junior staff trying to translate his rambling tantrums.

Those 87 pages are just as imaginary as Weissman's prosecutorial misconduct in going after people at Enron.  

[Chad Fuck 17503]

Those 87 pages are just as imaginary as Weissman's prosecutorial misconduct in going after people at Enron.  

Ding ding ding. Winnah!!

[Francisco 2.0 32290]

5 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Those "87 pages" are various scattered pages of random notes scribbled by junior staff trying to translate his rambling tantrums.

That he tore up and staffers had to tape back together:

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/10/trump-papers-filing-system-635164

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Solomon Lartey spent the first five months of the Trump administration working in the Old Executive Office Building, standing over a desk with scraps of paper spread out in front of him.

Lartey, who earned an annual salary of $65,969 as a records management analyst, was a career government official with close to 30 years under his belt. But he had never seen anything like this in any previous administration he had worked for. He had never had to tape the president’s papers back together again.

 

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Armed with rolls of clear Scotch tape, Lartey and his colleagues would sift through large piles of shredded paper and put them back together, he said, “like a jigsaw puzzle.” Sometimes the papers would just be split down the middle, but other times they would be torn into pieces so small they looked like confetti.

It was a painstaking process that was the result of a clash between legal requirements to preserve White House records and President Donald Trump’s odd and enduring habit of ripping up papers when he’s done with them — what some people described as his unofficial “filing system.”

 

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But White House aides realized early on that they were unable to stop Trump from ripping up paper after he was done with it and throwing it in the trash or on the floor, according to people familiar with the practice. Instead, they chose to clean it up for him, in order to make sure that the president wasn’t violating the law.

Staffers had the fragments of paper collected from the Oval Office as well as the private residence and send it over to records management across the street from the White House for Lartey and his colleagues to reassemble.

“We got Scotch tape, the clear kind,” Lartey recalled in an interview. “You found pieces and taped them back together and then you gave it back to the supervisor.” The restored papers would then be sent to the National Archives to be properly filed away.

 

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Lartey said the papers he received included newspaper clips on which Trump had scribbled notes, or circled words; invitations; and letters from constituents or lawmakers on the Hill, including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer.

“I had a letter from Schumer — he tore it up,” he said. “It was the craziest thing ever. He ripped papers into tiny pieces.”