The Robert Mueller Investigation

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3868]

5 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

You think waaay too highly of Kushner. And Manafort wasn't a made man in the Trump family. He's not dealing directly with the boss on most matters. He's dealing with a capo so the boss has plausible deniability. 

Not only is TRump not that smart he is a micro manager and nothing happens without his okay.

Edited December 8, 2018 by ShaggyBevo RIP

[WhatTheBuck 28776]

1 minute ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

Not only is TRump not that smart he is a micro manager and nothing happens without his okay.

Did he attend the Trump Tower meeting? No. Who did? Manafort and a pair of capos. Yeah, he knew about it and it had his okay. But he kept his distance so he could deny knowledge of it. What will tie him to it are the phone calls from Don Jr. immediately before and after. 

Trump doesn't use email. He tweets but I've never heard of him texting anyone. My money's on Kushner. 

[Biff Tannen 45673]

Oh hey guys.  Did I miss anything today?

[TexArcher 37774]

Is this the beginning of the end?

Please?

I want to go back to being cynically apolitical and not wondering if America will still be here in 6 years.

[BurntOrange&White 39931]

 

You know he’s toast when this starts to happen.

[ADHD 28]

I want Don Jr perp walked. 

I want Don Sr frog walked in that Alex Jones costume he's been wearing lately for some ungodly reason.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

5 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

My money's on Kushner. 

Kushner is the missing link in every document and he’s in the middle of everything publicly reported.  

He ran the digital operation.  He was in the Trump Tower meeting.  He was the one that got Manafort hired and Lewendowski fired. He got Christie fired from the transition team.  He pushed for Flynn to get the National Security  job.  He insisted on the Comey firing. He traveled with Trump on the campaign trail. Trump appointed him prince of everything once in office.  He got MBS installed in Saudi Arabia. He’s been tied to Chinese intelligence. 

Yet Kushner isn’t named in the Dossier or any other legal document. 

And then there’s all his financial issues on top of that. 

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3868]

17 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Did he attend the Trump Tower meeting? No. Who did? Manafort and a pair of capos. Yeah, he knew about it and it had his okay. But he kept his distance so he could deny knowledge of it. What will tie him to it are the phone calls from Don Jr. immediately before and after. 

Trump doesn't use email. He tweets but I've never heard of him texting anyone. My money's on Kushner. 

All valid.

[Ten Bears 2481]

2 hours ago, David Dennison said:

So, when was the last time a president's own DOJ accused him of committing two felonies?

Today.

[triplehorn 2664]

In this time of Trump related Joint Defense Agreements and today's revelations about Cohen pulling a half-Manafort, claiming full cooperation while not really cooperating, resulting in a recommendation for 51+ months prison time, keep in mind Cohen's attorney was Lanny Davis. 

Lanny Davis said Cohen "had a story to tell" and was 100% committed to telling the truth to prosecutors.  So much for that.  Realize also for whom Lanny Davis is currently registered as a foreign agent:

Michael Cohen, Lanny Davis and the Russian Mafia

"For the past four years, Davis — a 72-year-old former special counsel to former President Bill Clinton — has served as a registered foreign agent for Dmitry Firtash, who has been fighting to avoid extradition to Chicago, where he faces charges of international racketeering and money laundering. In registering with the Justice Department as Firtash’s foreign agent, Davis said his firm was being paid $80,000 a month — or about a million dollars a year — by a man described by prosecutors as an “upper-echelon” associate of Russian organized crime. The case against Firtash “seeks to protect this country, its commerce and its citizens from the corrupting influence and withering effects of international organized crime,” prosecutors wrote last year."

That oligarch, Dmitry Firtash, is also a business partner of Paul Manafort, and co-owner of Cambridge Analytica.

Quite the cozy circle of agents and partners.

[atomheartbevo 89644]

@triplehorn that kinda sounds like what a Deep State would look like.  All kinds of people trying to hide their connections, while at the same time they are all mysteriously interconnected.  

[Biff Tannen 45673]

Every single person in his orbit is a fucking criminal.  Good gravy.

[atomheartbevo 89644]

 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Hillary was such a bad candidate, it took multiple criminal conspiracies to defeat her. 

[Ten Bears 2481]

6 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

 

God...Damn!!!

/mrpoopybutthole

[UTCzech III 2907]

Every day I get reminded of this line from All the President's Men:

Look, forget the myths the media's created about the White House--the truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

[Native Horn 3500]

I love me some Ted Lieu.  He always slams and goes hard.  Just like Dotard will get in the Florence Supermax.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

[Post Oak 20209]

5 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

He's putting on weight.

[Ted Lange 16084]

Keep fucking that chicken Hannity, you fucking dumbass. 

[ADHD 28]

33 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Hillary was such a bad candidate, it took multiple criminal conspiracies to defeat her. 

A veritable global conspiracy. Jesus Christ, that woman scared a few dudes.

[jimmyjazz 45898]

Please tell me Hannity led with the Clintons tonight.  Please?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Please tell me Hannity led with the Clintons tonight.  Please?

He did. 

[Pescado_Rojo 19416]

6 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

He's putting on weight.

You would gain weight too, if you were stress eating a gallon of ice cream every night

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[ADHD 28]

Some day in the not too distant future Hillary's gonna be seated in a rocking chair sewing socks or something grinning & humming like the matrix Oracle lady while all these Trumpian super villians scream her name from their prison cells ..

Will that vengeance be better than being president? Maybe so.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

https://www.npr.org/about-npr/674364053/npr-pbs-newshour-marist-poll-americans-want-mueller-report-fully-disclosed

NPR/PBS NewsHour Marist Poll: Americans want Mueller Report Fully Disclosed

 

Key Findings:

• 76% of Americans think the report of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election should be released to the public in its entirety, 6% think portions approved by the Trump administration should be made public and 10% think none of the report should be released.

 

• 91% of Democrats, 68% of Republicans, and 75% of independents believe the entire report should be released.

 

• 54% of Americans think the Mueller investigation is fair, 33% call it a "witch hunt".

 

• 82% of Democrats and a majority of independents (55%) think the probe is fair. While 71% of Republicans consider the investigation a "witch hunt," a notable 17% say it is fair.

 

• 67% believe Mueller should be allowed to finish his investigation, 18% say he should be fired, 15% are unsure.

 

• 81% of Democrats, 51% of Republicans, and 70% of independents think the Mueller investigation should be seen through to its completion.

 

• 29% of U.S. residents, compared with 33% in July, have a favorable impression of Mueller. 33% have an unfavorable view of him, similar to 30% last time. 39% have either never heard of Mueller or are unsure how to rate him.

 

• 42% approve of the job President Trump is doing, 49% disapprove, and 9% are unsure. 24% of Americans strongly approve of how Trump is doing in office, and 37% strongly disapprove.

 

• 56% of respondents remain pessimistic about the direction of the nation. 36%, though, report the country is moving in the right direction.

 

• 19% of Americans believe the top priority for the next Congress should be the economy and jobs, 17% say immigration, 16% say healthcare, and 10% say federal taxes and spending.

[triplehorn 2664]

House Judiciary member Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN) was just interviewed re impeachment of Trump in light of Trump today being pinned for committing two felonies related to campaign finance.  Steve Cohen gave very measured responses and made it clear that there would be no rush to impeach, but rather to investigate further - to draw out more evidence from DoJ and Congressional investigations to the point that American people and, yes, even Republicans in the Senate reach the point where they've had enough.  The calculus involves pressure applied to Senate R's as a function of the looming 2020 elections where the potential punishment for their continued negligent complicity will be painfully clear.  

I totally get it.  It's going to be absolute water torture for R's.  There will be a threshold, and it won't come after facing the aftermath of an even harsher wipeout for R's in 2020.  The House and DoJ will force Senate R's to cry for mercy.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

1 minute ago, triplehorn said:

House Judiciary member Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN) was just interviewed re impeachment of Trump in light of Trump today being pinned for committing two felonies related to campaign finance.  Steve Cohen gave very measured responses and made it clear that there would be no rush to impeach, but rather to investigate further - to draw out more evidence from DoJ and Congressional investigations to the point that American people and, yes, even Republicans in the Senate reach the point where they've had enough.  The calculus involves pressure applied to Senate R's as a function of the looming 2020 elections where the potential punishment for their continued negligent complicity will be painfully clear.  

I totally get it.  It's going to be absolute water torture for R's.  There will be a threshold, and it won't come after facing the aftermath of an even harsher wipeout for R's in 2020.  The House and DoJ will force Senate R's to cry for mercy.

Yep. It’s been the rope a dope strategy for a while. 

[Anastasis 23469]

Perp walks in mass incoming before easter sunday. 

[David Dennison 18853]

29 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

He can't get President Hillary Clinton out of his head.

It's weird.

[Biff Tannen 45673]

37 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

82% of Democrats and a majority of independents (55%) think the probe is fair. While 71% of Republicans consider the investigation a "witch hunt," a notable 17% say it is fair.

Lulz.  Fuck you Republicans.  Fuck.  You.

[Yuk 1532]

 

[Biff Tannen 45673]

[Celery Man 20934]

1 hour ago, ADHD said:

Some day in the not too distant future Hillary's gonna be seated in a rocking chair sewing socks or something grinning & humming like the matrix Oracle lady while all these Trumpian super villians scream her name from their prison cells ..

Will that vengeance be better than being president? Maybe so.

if it was me, I'd get on their visitors list

[triplehorn 2664]

2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Perp walks in mass incoming before easter sunday. 

 

[atomheartbevo 89644]

 

Edited December 8, 2018 by atomheartbevo

[Nice Guy Eddie 13509]

9 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

I never hear or read about anyone defending the Clintons.  In general, I believe the average Dem is ok if the DOJ investigates then and prosecutes if they find illegal activity.   Is there anything stopping the DOJ from doing so?    

Now I think it’s most likely a waste of time to do so, but go ahead.  

[Laga4 1270]

9 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

https://www.npr.org/about-npr/674364053/npr-pbs-newshour-marist-poll-americans-want-mueller-report-fully-disclosed

NPR/PBS NewsHour Marist Poll: Americans want Mueller Report Fully Disclosed

 

Key Findings:

• 76% of Americans think the report of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election should be released to the public in its entirety, 6% think portions approved by the Trump administration should be made public and 10% think none of the report should be released.

 

• 91% of Democrats, 68% of Republicans, and 75% of independents believe the entire report should be released.

 

• 54% of Americans think the Mueller investigation is fair, 33% call it a "witch hunt".

 

• 82% of Democrats and a majority of independents (55%) think the probe is fair. While 71% of Republicans consider the investigation a "witch hunt," a notable 17% say it is fair.

 

• 67% believe Mueller should be allowed to finish his investigation, 18% say he should be fired, 15% are unsure.

 

• 81% of Democrats, 51% of Republicans, and 70% of independents think the Mueller investigation should be seen through to its completion.

 

• 29% of U.S. residents, compared with 33% in July, have a favorable impression of Mueller. 33% have an unfavorable view of him, similar to 30% last time. 39% have either never heard of Mueller or are unsure how to rate him.

 

• 42% approve of the job President Trump is doing, 49% disapprove, and 9% are unsure. 24% of Americans strongly approve of how Trump is doing in office, and 37% strongly disapprove.

 

• 56% of respondents remain pessimistic about the direction of the nation. 36%, though, report the country is moving in the right direction.

 

• 19% of Americans believe the top priority for the next Congress should be the economy and jobs, 17% say immigration, 16% say healthcare, and 10% say federal taxes and spending.

The thing that jumps out at me is 42% of Americans approve of the job the president is doing and 9% are unsure.  

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

13 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I never hear or read about anyone defending the Clintons.  In general, I believe the average Dem is ok if the DOJ investigates then and prosecutes if they find illegal activity.   Is there anything stopping the DOJ from doing so?    

Now I think it’s most likely a waste of time to do so, but go ahead.  

Well, when Sessions was grilled by Rep. Jim Jordan about that, Sessions (yes, Jeff "keebler elf" Sessions) said there wasn't sufficient evidence to go after them. It's a dead end and the GOP doesn't know how to move on from that. 

[DigglerontheHoof 21184]

My hope is the orange-utan will be dragged from a federal courtroom, in cuffs, yelling "NO COLLUSION!!!!!!!!!!!"

[Goredho 17398]

19 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

Well, when Sessions was grilled by Rep. Jim Jordan about that, Sessions (yes, Jeff "keebler elf" Sessions) said there wasn't sufficient evidence to go after them. It's a dead end and the GOP doesn't know how to move on from that. 

They are trying to make Ocassio-Cortez their Hillary 2 Electric BOOgaloo.  The GOP has to have their scary boogey(wo)man to keep pointing at lest the old, feeble and dumb start to look at who they are voting for.

[Chad Fuck 17669]

^This.

[Mdhorn 5947]

10 hours ago, David Dennison said:

He can't get President Hillary Clinton out of his head.

It's weird.

He needs an all time great villain that will rally and unite the troops.  It really only works during the election cycle though. 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

11 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Perp walks in mass incoming before easter sunday. 

None of these people attend mass.

[BrickHorn 18218]

1 hour ago, Mdhorn said:

He needs an all time great villain that will rally and unite the troops.  

This.  Trump is just a wrestling heel.  His aura is born of interpersonal drama and rivalry.  He needs an enemy that is viewed as his equal, a counterpart for an eternal struggle.  If Trump isn’t fighting the other team’s champion, he’s not interesting and he’s not a hero (or antihero).  He’s just a loudmouth yelling at air.  

[Francisco 2.0 32389]

12 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

This.  Trump is just a wrestling heel.  His aura is born of interpersonal drama and rivalry.  He needs an enemy that is viewed as his equal, a counterpart for an eternal struggle.  If Trump isn’t fighting the other team’s champion, he’s not interesting and he’s not a hero (or antihero).  He’s just a loudmouth yelling at air.  

 

That's already been established:

 

 

 

 

[WhatTheBuck 28776]

40 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

This.  Trump is just a wrestling heel.  His aura is born of interpersonal drama and rivalry.  He needs an enemy that is viewed as his equal, a counterpart for an eternal struggle.  If Trump isn’t fighting the other team’s champion, he’s not interesting and he’s not a hero (or antihero).  He’s just a loudmouth yelling at air.  

It's a reality tv show presidency. Recall that he reportedly told his staff to treat his presidency as a reality show where every day he "vanquishes his rivals." He's just approaching the presidency the same way he approaches his personal business -- with fakery and bullshit. 

[Jack Straw 2954]

40 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

That's already been established:

 

 

 

 

The face of the Republican Party, folks.  This is what you love and wholeheartedly support when you pull the lever for the (R).