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4 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Any bets?

I'm guessing 5 years concurrent. 

I'm guessing five consecutive.  However, Mueller wanted to bring this and the ED Va cases together, which would have increased the odds of concurrent, but Manafort objected.  I don't know how that plays into this (probably not at all, formally).

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A pretty good legal defense would be "hey, if it wasn't for law enforcement and nosy people being aware of my crimes, nobody would even know that I loved doing crime."

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4 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

 

Just incredible his lawyers took the route of "c'mon, no one even usually notices these crimes" as an argument for leniency, and Jackson was not impressed.

 

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The judge slams Manafort and his lawyers for making the "unsubstantiated" claim that Manafort was only charged by Mueller's office because they couldn't charge him with anything related to the campaign. "The noncollusion mantra is simply a non sequitor"

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Just incredible his lawyers took the route of "c'mon, no one even usually notices these crimes" as an argument for leniency, and Jackson was not impressed.
 

Why not? They going to argue the facts? Nope.
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So with credit for time served I think after today Manafort will serve 6.5 years in prison. 

60 months (with 30 running concurrently) plus 13 months on top for witness tampering 

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Whenever I shit through the sunroof of one of my friend's cars or bang their wives I like to show up a few days later in a wheelchair like "hey, I know I crossed the line but I bet you feel pretty bad being so mad at me while my back hurts."

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31 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

Jackson seems to be pretty harsh here. Makes it sound like a not lenient sentence.

 

29 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

every time there is something good for Manafort, Jackson says "yeah, but..."

And then goes pretty easy on him. The "Woe is me" strategy paid off. 

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He will receive credit for time served and 54 days/year "good time" for good behavior. 

35 years (or whatever was adding the maximum for every count) was never realistically on the table.

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3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

7.5 years?  Out of a total possible 35?

Hopefully Mueller is offended by the absurdity of this and decides to drag him back into court for other crimes.  Or, even better, refers something to a state AG so that Manafort can spend some time in non-country club prison.  

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6 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I am not a lawyer, per se, but I have watched A Few Good Men many, many times. What would you like to know?

The truth and whether or not you personally think I can handle it.

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13 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

Hopefully Mueller is offended by the absurdity of this and decides to drag him back into court for other crimes.  Or, even better, refers something to a state AG so that Manafort can spend some time in non-country club prison.  

It's what white guys get for white collar crimes.  I think I would have said 10 was about right, but that's influenced by the fact that I think most sentences are overboard.

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1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:
 

Nice ... you think that the Feds would let him serve some time in Rikers before they shut it down?

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1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

Curious timing.  Just in case anyone forgets that most prosecutors can be grandstanding cunts.

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1 minute ago, Chooky said:

Curious timing.  Just in case anyone forgets that most prosecutors can be grandstanding cunts.

Cyrus Vance's photo is in some dictionaries under that definition, yes.



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