The Robert Mueller Investigation

[David Dennison 18647]

Just now, GRHorn said:

 

Elections have consequences.

[SKJ 1305]

4 minutes ago, tjhooker said:

No, I am saying some people really dislike me here and say and do some really stupid things when I post.  Not my fault they get triggered. 

Right, but what you literally said was that you loved to trigger libs, which is basically trolling.

I'm not saying you're a troll, but I'm done ways, it's what you're saying.

I really can't see why trying to trigger someone is anything but trolling.

Anyways, back to whatever it is that is going on in this thread

[Turkleton 145]

35 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

Regardless of the report what we do know, unequivocally, is that Trump is a lying, cheating (in every sense of the word including adultery), all around shit bag fraudster.  And that’s not an opion.  There is hard evidence to support that description.

The report will probably not say anything definitive but because of it and the work associated with it we have multiple indictments, guilty pleas, convictions, pending trials and sentences and we know that there were shady dealings between his campaign and Russia.

Additionally anyone with a brain knows there has been obstruction at multiple levels and of course don’t forget the porn star and playboy bunny payouts, which are not your average run of the mill campaign violations.  These were violations that could have absolutely changed the course of the election considering the margin of Trump’s victories in the areas that swung the election to him (thanks electoral college).

So regardless of what happens with the report, Trump’s mold has been cast as well of those Trumpkins that believe dear leader can do no wrong.

 

Oh look, a lefty pointing out his moral compass. Like the left has a moral value of truth. LOL

[hobbes2702 12797]

2 minutes ago, notre dame joe said:

Did you not say "job-creators is the stupidest shit" on August 7th 2012 at 2:35pm?

I can’t recall. See how that works. 

[GRHorn 105]

11 minutes ago, tjhooker said:

Let me see if I understand the rhetorical question posed here.  You're calling out the irony of him calling out people for being partisan when he is one of the most partisan posters in CR?  Am I reading the question right? 

His posts have been so bipolar and lacking self awareness. One post says the details will be explosive. The next says it doesn’t matter, we have two years. Then he looks down others as partisan when that’s his entire identity on this board. It’s almost like a bad bot that has some kind of post quota that must be met. It’s nonsense. 

[TexEx15 17456]

A lefty?  That’s news to me.  Just because someone calls out Trump doesn’t mean that person is a lefty.  Plenty of Republicans with their nuts still in tact realize that Trump is garbage. I’m sorry that critizing dear leader has triggered you.

[SKJ 1305]

Holy fuck the Trump fans are oozing out of the woodwork on some sort of victory lap.

There's really no victory at all to be had, either way, if you love this country.

[hobbes2702 12797]

1 minute ago, tjhooker said:

I'm sure you were in board with outing of things from an unnamed thread.  After all, the end justify the means.  

Maybe you should start a thread to cry about it.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

Actually all this already happened 

[David Dennison 18647]

4 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

His posts have been so bipolar and lacking self awareness. One post says the details will be explosive. The next says it doesn’t matter, we have two years. Then he looks down others as partisan when that’s his entire identity on this board. It’s almost like a bad bot that has some kind of post quota that must be met. It’s nonsense. 

I think the details will be explosive. It doesn't matter because it's politics and today's winner is tomorrow's loser. And I look down on others who don't acknowledge they are partisan when they clearly are.

 

[TexEx15 17456]

4 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Actually all this already happened 

Imagine had there not been staggered indictments but instead the report is released and all this takes place at once.  The fact is the length of time this has been going on has desensitized us to exactly how much has been discovered that absent a direct finger at Trump its a letdown for one side and complete exoneration for the other when the reality is somewhere in the middle.

Edited March 23, 2019 by TexEx15

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

[David Dennison 18647]

Just now, tjhooker said:

Extreme partisan tweet with his spin on things.  No promised indictments for collusion with Russia.  

Promised?

 

[cactusflinthead 27594]

5 minutes ago, horn4life said:

I haven't been here on a Friday when loserville is in full swing.  Sad to think that some folks actually enjoy, and get some sort of personal "esteem" for being thought of as not very bright.... But, on the silver lining side. beats going out to a bar, spending a bunch of cash, and having people say to your face... "You're are not very bright are you?"

 

Tree fiddy means it's cheap entertainment. Bball and political ranting.

 

[JimmyJames 12271]

8 minutes ago, notre dame joe said:

Did you not say "job-creators is the stupidest shit" on August 7th 2012 at 2:35pm?

Well in his defense  “job creators” and “perjury trap” are both stupid as shit republican talkin points that should be equally ridiculed. In my job I create a small number of jobs, but at least I will admit that I typically only do so to benefit my own self interest. To laud that as some sort of noble goal is ridiculous.

And as for perjury trap, here’s a thought, don’t fuckin lie and you wont get caught in any “perjury trap.”: That’s basically an excuse for republicans to say hey I got caught in a lie under oath but it shouldn’t count because I got “trapped.” Well fuck you. And you idiots who excuse that are just as bad as the liars who get caught in the so called “perjury traps.” All it means is you haven’t had to go under oath and reveal your inner shittiness and lack of moral compass and willingness to lie under oath to the world. 

[SpiralOut 1809]

43 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I know we shouldn’t speculate but it’s possible Mueller concludes Trump and his campaign were the victims of a very sophisticated Russian intelligence operation.  The fact that Trump and his campaign were complete morons made them easy prey for the Russians to compromise during the election. 

That’s one narrative no one really talks about but it’s plausible. 

You've been screaming since the day Trump was elected that he was a traitor to these United States, completely in Putin's pocket, and that Mueller was going to nail him to the fucking wall and he'd be impeached.

Now you've moved the goalposts to "Well, maybe he's just a moron?"

We all know he's a fucking moron.  Plenty of people have pointed out (myself included) that Trump was too dumb to collude with Russia and was using the DNC "hack" like the shitbag opportunist he is to fuck with the Dems and Hillary.  Yet you and the goon squad went straight to "Trump is a secret Russian agent!  He deserves to be hanged from the tallest tree we can find!" 

So I'm gonna call bullshit on your backpedaling.  Own it, you one man propaganda mill.  If Mueller doesn't indict anyone else and Trump gets off scot-fucking-free because he didn't do shit, you look like a fucking reactionary, Aggy nut squeezing idiot. This is fucking awful for you if Mueller's report is full of nothing. 

Consequently, it's awful for the rest of us too, because you and the people like you in the media have spent the past two years promising that Captain America-Mueller is going to find out all the evil shit Trump did with Putin to steal the election and Scooby-Doo his ass to jail.  Now Trump is going to be vindicated and average yokel voters across the country are gonna lap his shtick up for the next 18 months.  Prepare thy anus for four more years of the Cheeto.
 

[GhostOfTomJoad 9307]

29 minutes ago, tjhooker said:

He has lied.  Obama lied too.  So did Bush and Clinton.  They all lie. What does that prove?  

Trump lies--on average--5 times per day via twitter. And that's likely an underestimation. He lies compulsively for no apparent benefit. He's not "bending the truth" or "telling part of the story" to perpetuate the narrative that feeds his agenda. He lies. Over the most asinine shit. Repeatedly. Because the only truth he recognizes is the shit that comes from his mouth at any given moment.

 

[David Dennison 18647]

1 minute ago, SpiralOut said:

If Mueller doesn't indict anyone else and Trump gets off scot-fucking-free because he didn't do shit, you look like a fucking reactionary, Aggy nut squeezing idiot. This is fucking awful for you if Mueller's report is full of nothing. 

And if he's indicted when he's no longer president by another prosecutor?

[notre dame joe 172]

13 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

I can’t recall. See how that works. 

And if you can, you just lied.  See how that works?

 

[Johnny Sack 8397]

18 minutes ago, horn4life said:

I haven't been here on a Friday when loserville is in full swing.  Sad to think that some folks actually enjoy, and get some sort of personal "esteem" for being thought of as not very bright.... But, on the silver lining side. beats going out to a bar, spending a bunch of cash, and having people say to your face... "You're are not very bright are you?"

 

No, you’re are

[Crusher 127]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

I couldn't care less if he gets impeached. I just want him to lose the next election.

That's not gonna happen. You and CNN, MSNBC , New York Times and the Washington Post have made it a certainty. 

You wanna know the truth? I didn't even vote in 2016. I figured, like everyone else, that Hillary was gonna win in a land slide. I had no alliance to Trump.

But, when I saw the way the media immediately began to attack Trump on election night I was a little perturbed.

Then the resistance shit started up and I was a little more interested.

But when the Special Council crap sprung up I was all in. I had seen this whole debacle as nothing more than political theater. Until I started hearing the intelligence communities role in all this. This whole Russian collusion thing is starting to look like a coup d'état . A  coup d'état in the fucking United States of America!!

You have to be shitting me? Are we now a banana republic? I guess so the way all the left Pres candidates the are running toward socialism. Wow!!!

Regardless, I will be voting this next Presidential election. 

[David Dennison 18647]

1 minute ago, Crusher said:

That's not gonna happen. You and CNN, MSNBC , New York Times and the Washington Post have made it a certainty. 

You wanna know the truth? I didn't even vote in 2016. I figured, like everyone else, that Hillary was gonna win in a land slide. I had no alliance to Trump.

But, when I saw the way the media immediately began to attack Trump on election night I was a little perturbed.

Then the resistance shit started up and I was a little more interested.

But when the Special Council crap sprung up I was all in. I had seen this whole debacle as nothing more than political theater. Until I started hearing the intelligence communities role in all this. This whole Russian collusion thing is starting to look like a coup d'état . A  coup d'état in the fucking United States of America!!

You have to be shitting me? Are we now a banana republic? I guess so the way all the left Pres candidates the are running toward socialism. Wow!!!

Regardless, I will be voting this next Presidential election. 

He's probably going to lose. So just be prepared for that.

He's a criminal and a grifter and should not be the president.

Edited March 23, 2019 by David Dennison

[TexEx15 17456]

1 minute ago, Crusher said:

That's not gonna happen. You and CNN, MSNBC , New York Times and the Washington Post have made it a certainty. 

You wanna know the truth? I didn't even vote in 2016. I figured, like everyone else, that Hillary was gonna win in a land slide. I had no alliance to Trump.

But, when I saw the way the media immediately began to attack Trump on election night I was a little perturbed.

Then the resistance shit started up and I was a little more interested.

But when the Special Council crap sprung up I was all in. I had seen this whole debacle as nothing more than political theater. Until I started hearing the intelligence communities role in all this. This whole Russian collusion thing is starting to look like a coup d'état . A  coup d'état in the fucking United States of America!!

You have to be shitting me? Are we now a banana republic? I guess so the way all the left Pres candidates the are running toward socialism. Wow!!!

Regardless, I will be voting this next Presidential election. 

To be clear, you think the SCO investigation is what makes us look like a banana republic?

[hobbes2702 12797]

4 minutes ago, notre dame joe said:

And if you can, you just lied.  See how that works?

 

But I can’t, so I didn’t. You clearly don’t know how perjury works.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

Muh Russia

[David Dennison 18647]

Just now, Johnny Sack said:

Muh Russia

It's not going to be Russia.

That's not what he should worry about.

[JimmyJames 12271]

5 minutes ago, Crusher said:

That's not gonna happen. You and CNN, MSNBC , New York Times and the Washington Post have made it a certainty. 

You wanna know the truth? I didn't even vote in 2016. I figured, like everyone else, that Hillary was gonna win in a land slide. I had no alliance to Trump.

But, when I saw the way the media immediately began to attack Trump on election night I was a little perturbed.

Then the resistance shit started up and I was a little more interested.

But when the Special Council crap sprung up I was all in. I had seen this whole debacle as nothing more than political theater. Until I started hearing the intelligence communities role in all this. This whole Russian collusion thing is starting to look like a coup d'état . A  coup d'état in the fucking United States of America!!

You have to be shitting me? Are we now a banana republic? I guess so the way all the left Pres candidates the are running toward socialism. Wow!!!

Regardless, I will be voting this next Presidential election. 

Based on this post, I can safely say there is no way you are a real person. Just give it up already. 

[williemackgarza 1826]

So at this point lots of butthurt collusioners cryin about mueller report supposed findings? Lots in here kept with the lots of tweets by trump means indictment is imminent.
Man if mueller report truly is a dud then the talkin heads sayin collusion was a slam dunk should eat their words. This is what happens when every “reporter” has an opinion and has to let everyone know it.
That crazy bastard just might win again.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

15 minutes ago, SpiralOut said:

You've been screaming since the day Trump was elected that he was a traitor to these United States, completely in Putin's pocket, and that Mueller was going to nail him to the fucking wall and he'd be impeached.

Now you've moved the goalposts to "Well, maybe he's just a moron?"

We all know he's a fucking moron.  Plenty of people have pointed out (myself included) that Trump was too dumb to collude with Russia and was using the DNC "hack" like the shitbag opportunist he is to fuck with the Dems and Hillary.  Yet you and the goon squad went straight to "Trump is a secret Russian agent!  He deserves to be hanged from the tallest tree we can find!" 

So I'm gonna call bullshit on your backpedaling.  Own it, you one man propaganda mill.  If Mueller doesn't indict anyone else and Trump gets off scot-fucking-free because he didn't do shit, you look like a fucking reactionary, Aggy nut squeezing idiot. This is fucking awful for you if Mueller's report is full of nothing. 

Consequently, it's awful for the rest of us too, because you and the people like you in the media have spent the past two years promising that Captain America-Mueller is going to find out all the evil shit Trump did with Putin to steal the election and Scooby-Doo his ass to jail.  Now Trump is going to be vindicated and average yokel voters across the country are gonna lap his shtick up for the next 18 months.  Prepare thy anus for four more years of the Cheeto.
 

Uh, there’s a difference between what I think and what I think Mueller might conclude.

Trump is a traitor compromised by Putin but there’s no way Mueller can report that, it would be irresponsible for him to do so. 

The closest he can come is to conclude that Trump is an unregistered foreign agent and even that might be a bridge too far. 

It’s called nuance

Edited March 23, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[notre dame joe 172]

10 minutes ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

Trump lies--on average--5 times per day via twitter. And that's likely an underestimation. He lies compulsively for no apparent benefit. He's not "bending the truth" or "telling part of the story" to perpetuate the narrative that feeds his agenda. He lies. Over the most asinine shit. Repeatedly. Because the only truth he recognizes is the shit that comes from his mouth at any given moment.

 

I'm going on a limb and say you voted for Hilary. 

 

You could make a case that she doesn't 'lie' because the truth always equals what is to her advantage. 

[SKJ 1305]

12 minutes ago, SpiralOut said:

You've been screaming since the day Trump was elected that he was a traitor to these United States, completely in Putin's pocket, and that Mueller was going to nail him to the fucking wall and he'd be impeached.

Now you've moved the goalposts to "Well, maybe he's just a moron?"

We all know he's a fucking moron.  Plenty of people have pointed out (myself included) that Trump was too dumb to collude with Russia and was using the DNC "hack" like the shitbag opportunist he is to fuck with the Dems and Hillary.  Yet you and the goon squad went straight to "Trump is a secret Russian agent!  He deserves to be hanged from the tallest tree we can find!" 

So I'm gonna call bullshit on your backpedaling.  Own it, you one man propaganda mill.  If Mueller doesn't indict anyone else and Trump gets off scot-fucking-free because he didn't do shit, you look like a fucking reactionary, Aggy nut squeezing idiot. This is fucking awful for you if Mueller's report is full of nothing. 

Consequently, it's awful for the rest of us too, because you and the people like you in the media have spent the past two years promising that Captain America-Mueller is going to find out all the evil shit Trump did with Putin to steal the election and Scooby-Doo his ass to jail.  Now Trump is going to be vindicated and average yokel voters across the country are gonna lap his shtick up for the next 18 months.  Prepare thy anus for four more years of the Cheeto.
 

I think your lost.

You actually WANT 4 more years of a complete, inept, shitshow?

Look how far we've fallen

[JimmyJames 12271]

9 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

No, you’re are

Hey Sack! I heard a rumor that you got me on ignore. I suppose that might be true. Breaks my heart if so. Anything I can do to rectify that? I ain’t paying 10k though. 

[Johnny Sack 8397]

2 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Based on this post, I can safely say there is no way you are a real person. Just give it up already. 

I can safely say reading your posts that I know understand how aggy reading Billy Liucci always think next year is going to be different.  You are a stunning example of the effect of an echo chamber. 

[SKJ 1305]

9 minutes ago, Crusher said:

That's not gonna happen. You and CNN, MSNBC , New York Times and the Washington Post have made it a certainty. 

You wanna know the truth? I didn't even vote in 2016. I figured, like everyone else, that Hillary was gonna win in a land slide. I had no alliance to Trump.

But, when I saw the way the media immediately began to attack Trump on election night I was a little perturbed.

Then the resistance shit started up and I was a little more interested.

But when the Special Council crap sprung up I was all in. I had seen this whole debacle as nothing more than political theater. Until I started hearing the intelligence communities role in all this. This whole Russian collusion thing is starting to look like a coup d'état . A  coup d'état in the fucking United States of America!!

You have to be shitting me? Are we now a banana republic? I guess so the way all the left Pres candidates the are running toward socialism. Wow!!!

Regardless, I will be voting this next Presidential election. 

And you're going to but for Trump?

Wow. I mean, you realize how stupid that makes you look, right

[David Dennison 18647]

Just now, Johnny Sack said:

I can safely say reading your posts that I know understand how aggy reading Billy Liucci always think next year is going to be different.  You are a stunning example of the effect of an echo chamber. 

You are aggy. 

[WhatTheBuck 28705]

1 hour ago, TornACL said:

Well this is a very productive and enlightening conversation all the way around. 

Yeah, the signal-to-noise ratio in this thread is going to be extremely low for the immediate future. 

[Johnny Sack 8397]

Just now, David Dennison said:

You are aggy. 

You and Hugo have created the lefty version of Texags politics.  The similarities are just stunning.  

[Crusher 127]

2 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

To be clear, you think the SCO investigation is what makes us look like a banana republic?

Yes. It was totally political in the way it was started. The FBI had investigated the Trump Dossier for 9 months before Mueller was appointed. They didn't find shit. This was a political hack job started by the previous administration designed to put Hillary on the throne and when that failed they attacked a sitting President.

 

[David Dennison 18647]

Just now, Crusher said:

Yes. It was totally political in the way it was started. The FBI had investigated the Trump Dossier for 9 months before Mueller was appointed. They didn't find shit. This was a political hack job started by the previous administration designed to put Hillary on the throne and when that failed they attacked a sitting President.

 

They found a lot actually.

[JimmyJames 12271]

Just now, Johnny Sack said:

I can safely say reading your posts that I know understand how aggy reading Billy Liucci always think next year is going to be different.  You are a stunning example of the effect of an echo chamber. 

So I’m not on ignore? Cool beans.

Yeah surly can be an echo chamber. I admit it. You occasionally provide a welcome reprieve from that where we can notice, contemplate, and occasionally mock the other side. So for that I thank thee. 

[GRHorn 105]

15 minutes ago, SpiralOut said:

You've been screaming since the day Trump was elected that he was a traitor to these United States, completely in Putin's pocket, and that Mueller was going to nail him to the fucking wall and he'd be impeached.

Now you've moved the goalposts to "Well, maybe he's just a moron?"

We all know he's a fucking moron.  Plenty of people have pointed out (myself included) that Trump was too dumb to collude with Russia and was using the DNC "hack" like the shitbag opportunist he is to fuck with the Dems and Hillary.  Yet you and the goon squad went straight to "Trump is a secret Russian agent!  He deserves to be hanged from the tallest tree we can find!" 

So I'm gonna call bullshit on your backpedaling.  Own it, you one man propaganda mill.  If Mueller doesn't indict anyone else and Trump gets off scot-fucking-free because he didn't do shit, you look like a fucking reactionary, Aggy nut squeezing idiot. This is fucking awful for you if Mueller's report is full of nothing. 

Consequently, it's awful for the rest of us too, because you and the people like you in the media have spent the past two years promising that Captain America-Mueller is going to find out all the evil shit Trump did with Putin to steal the election and Scooby-Doo his ass to jail.  Now Trump is going to be vindicated and average yokel voters across the country are gonna lap his shtick up for the next 18 months.  Prepare thy anus for four more years of the Cheeto.
 

This is one of the best posts in the history of this God forsaken forum. Kudos. 

 

[Zonahorn 8079]

1 minute ago, Johnny Sack said:

You and Hugo have created the lefty version of Texags politics.  The similarities are just stunning.  

You are the literal Aggy version of politics.

[David Dennison 18647]

1 minute ago, Johnny Sack said:

You and Hugo have created the lefty version of Texags politics.  The similarities are just stunning.  

But you are aggy. Head on over there and see how you fit in.

[hobbes2702 12797]

15 minutes ago, notre dame joe said:

And if you can, you just lied.  See how that works?

 

Also that little “perjury trap” was pretty easy for me to wiggle out of. It’s almost like you have to knowingly lie or something 

[SpiralOut 1809]

5 minutes ago, SKJ said:

I think your lost.

You actually WANT 4 more years of a complete, inept, shitshow?

Look how far we've fallen

Take a breath.  Go back.  Re-read my post real slow.  Then realize I absolutely don't want four more years of Trump.  But you folks screaming "Russian agent!  Traitor!  Impeach!  Impeach!" at the top of your lungs since he got elected have basically guaranteed that.

[David Dennison 18647]

Just now, SpiralOut said:

Take a breath.  Go back.  Re-read my post real slow.  Then realize I absolutely don't want four more years of Trump.  But you folks screaming "Russian agent!  Traitor!  Impeach!  Impeach!" at the top of your lungs since he got elected have basically guaranteed that.

Oh, that's not at all clear. He's incredibly unpopular and will be the 2020 version of Hillary Clinton.

[TexEx15 17456]

5 minutes ago, Crusher said:

Yes. It was totally political in the way it was started. The FBI had investigated the Trump Dossier for 9 months before Mueller was appointed. They didn't find shit. This was a political hack job started by the previous administration designed to put Hillary on the throne and when that failed they attacked a sitting President.

 

So after all the arrests, indictments, pleas, convictions etc. you are going to run with the political hack job narraitve while not addressing the way Trump runs his administration as it relates to the banana republic description...  OK. Cool, Hook’Em.

Edited March 23, 2019 by TexEx15

[SKJ 1305]

2 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

This is one of the best posts in the history of this God forsaken forum. Kudos. 

 

You must realize that literally nothing has been disproved, and that Trump has literally behaved as if been bought and paid for, right.

You must see this. It's literally impossible to not see it. In fact, Fox doesn't even argue it, they just shift directions.

 

[hobbes2702 12797]

1 minute ago, SpiralOut said:

Take a breath.  Go back.  Re-read my post real slow.  Then realize I absolutely don't want four more years of Trump.  But you folks screaming "Russian agent!  Traitor!  Impeach!  Impeach!" at the top of your lungs since he got elected have basically guaranteed that.

Meh. That’s a dumb take and not supported by facts. If that was how it worked then Hillary would have won in a landslide. Trump supporters don’t care about the truth. They are team trump no matter what. Pointing out his malfeasance doesn’t help him politically except with those already on his team.

[notre dame joe 172]

Just now, TexEx15 said:

So after al the arrests, indictments, pleas, convictions etc. you are going to run with the political hit job narraitve while not addressing the way Trump runs his administration as it relates to the banana republic description...  OK. Cool, Hook’Em.

Because it was a partisan investigation of prosecutors.  IF Mueller did the same thing to Obama's Chicago connections or Crooked Hilary's allies it would be far worse.  But they are the pro-establishment politicians and thus will not face the heat.