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Just to make sure I have the alternative facts straight...  Our government -- but I'm guessing only the deep state part of it --- is now guilty of torturing a poor, naive Russian exchange student who

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liberals suddenly being terrified of Russia and manic for election integrity is just pure comedy gold.

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I don't believe for a moment that any of this is entertaining to you.  I think it gives you a bit of anxiety knowing that your best weapon against a group who you despise is a bumbling fraud as a busi

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55 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Did the RNC send out a bunch of talking points to talk about Bill Clinton and the fact that Ken Starr caught him in the great blowjob lie? Because that’s what its looking like tonight. 

Talking points?  What are those? Like “the walls are closing in”?  Lolololol

 

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5 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

So it turns out Trump was just surrounded with liars dealing with Russians and lying about their dealings with Russians.

Which makes this a great success story for Trump. 

Well you lied during this whole thread...

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6 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Calling for transparency when it comes to an unconstitutional surveillance state being deployed for political purposes=fascist sympathizer.

 

Come on Jimmy. You and I both know that you are better than that. 

 

It's mighty curious how you only seem to spot those gotchas when they're allegedly being committed by both one side.

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8 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I’m not as interested in people going to jail or impeached as I am in Mueller setting the narrative straight regarding what went down with Russia in the 2016 election.  

If Trump is exonerated of any wrong-doing, I’ll accept that but that doesn’t let Russia off the hook for all the evil shit they pulled in the 2016 election.  

I hope everyone can acknowledge that part of the story.

So you accept trump didn’t collude?

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7 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

How are the Rs winning the day? This ensures Pence won’t ever be president and trump will be the R nominee chosen to lose in 2020. Plus the Republican Party will become even more the party of trump, a surefire loser.

Not seeing how the Rs win in that scenario.

Really?  You are one spinning mofo. Let me help you out. 

The rest of the real world sees it as this. The media pushed for 2 years that there’d be some great reckoning for Trump regarding Russia. They were actively involved in drumming up hysteria from dumbasses like you. They were wrong, of course. Now he can point to the mainstream media even more as being untrustworthy and having an agenda. They waged a two year campaign for NOTHING. If you can’t see this, then you truly are lost. I’m sorry. 

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It's mighty curious how you only seem to spot those gotchas when they're allegedly being committed by both one side.

My perspective on the intelligence apparatus, FISA abuses, and IC overreach has spanned the Bush, Obama and Trump administrations. Meanwhile, I have watched a lot of people on the left grow suddenly silent. Sorry if your attention span can't compete my friend. 

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2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I just want to read the report. I'm pretty sure it's damning.

I'd like to see the full report, but apparently, and stay with me here, the people responsible for the investigation felt there was not sufficient evidence.  

Are you somehow more qualified to make the determination ?

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Really?  You are one spinning mofo. Let me help you out. 

The rest of the real world sees it as this. The media pushed for 2 years that there’d be some great reckoning for Trump regarding Russia. They were actively involved in drumming up hysteria from dumbasses like you. They were wrong, of course. Now he can point to the mainstream media even more as being untrustworthy and having an agenda. They waged a two year campaign for NOTHING. If you can’t see this, then you truly are lost. I’m sorry. 

Individual 1 is totally in the clear.

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1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

My perspective on the intelligence apparatus, FISA abuses, and IC overreach has spanned the Bush, Obama and Trump administrations. Meanwhile, ?I have watched a lot of people on the left grow suddenly silent. Sorry if your attention span can't compete my friend. 

You literally started bitching about FISA about 2 minutes before the editorial cartoons started showing up on this thread.

Are you serious?  Do you actually think anyone believes you aren't a hard lean to the right?  Come on.  An old adage of piss and rain comes to mind.

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I'd like to see the full report, but apparently, and stay with me here, the people responsible for the investigation felt there was not sufficient evidence.  

Are you somehow more qualified to make the determination ?

That doesn't mean there is no evidence. 

We should all get to take a look.

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1 minute ago, GRHorn said:

Really?  You are one spinning mofo. Let me help you out. 

The rest of the real world sees it as this. The media pushed for 2 years that there’d be some great reckoning for Trump regarding Russia. They were actively involved in drumming up hysteria from dumbasses like you. They were wrong, of course. Now he can point to the mainstream media even more as being untrustworthy and having an agenda. They waged a two year campaign for NOTHING. If you can’t see this, then you truly are lost. I’m sorry. 

The media was pushing but your hyperbole is no different.  This wasn't a report saying he's completely guilty or completely innocent.  NO SMOCKING GUN.  But it's ok, the people who pick sides just have to have a clear cut winner/loser.  That's not this, but again, it won't prevent partisans like you from acting like idiots. 

 

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

You literally started bitching about FISA about 2 minutes before the editorial cartoons started showing up on this thread.

Are you serious?  Do you actually think anyone believes you aren't a hard lean to the right?  Come on.  An old adage of piss and rain comes to mind.

I started bitching about FISA 2 minutes ago?  Go to bed Jimmy. You are clowning yourself now. 

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Barr revealed in his letter that nearly 2,800 subpoenas were issued and 500 witness interviews conducted during the investigation.

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but they nailed him on this back in 2006 and don't forget Stormy:

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But, she said, in spite of that encounter in 2006, “I went back,” conducting what she described as a 10-month, serious relationship that she finally ended when she could no longer bear the guilt of betraying Mr. Trump’s then-new wife, Melania.

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Trump was equally unaware of the strange twists of fate that lay ahead, but he had his eyes open for opportunity. Soon he caught sight of some other visitors who'd come to town for the tournament: a collection of hard-to-miss adult actresses, sent as emissaries from the porn studio Wicked Pictures. Though they toured the course throughout the practice round, their presence eluded the attention of the dozens of reporters covering the event. But Trump noticed them.

As he golfed, Trump stole glances at one woman in particular—at least that's how she'd recall it years later. A buxom blonde with Chanel sunglasses, she went by the stage name Stormy Daniels and she was then a rising star in the world of adult entertainment. At some point that morning, Trump and Daniels found themselves riding together in the same golf cart. And, according to a lengthy interview Daniels gave to InTouch in 2011, Trump made it clear he wanted to see more of the actress. "I want to come talk to you later," Daniels claimed Trump told her.

What followed that innocuous meeting, Daniels later explained, was far more than mere chit-chat. That weekend, Daniels claimed, the two began an affair—a supposedly months-long relationship that Trump has denied. Now, some 12 years later, that supposed dalliance has spilled into public view and shaken the White House.

In recent weeks, new questions have emerged about a $130,000 payoutthat Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, made to Daniels in 2016—and about whether the transaction amounted to an illegal contribution to Trump’s presidential campaign. Daniels, who signed a secrecy agreement around the time of the payout, is now suing for the right to speak freely about the relationship that she says they began that weekend.

Of course, Trump’s Tahoe trip haunts him in other ways. Another porn star he supposedly met there came forward with allegations in 2016 that Trump kissed her and two friends without permission that weekend. And another woman still—a Playboy model named Karen McDougal—reportedly admitted to a secret tryst with Trump while in Tahoe that weekend. On Tuesday, McDougal, who had signed a secrecy agreement, lodged a lawsuit of her own, suing for the right to share her story of the alleged affair (Trump has denied the relationship).

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9 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Really?  You are one spinning mofo. Let me help you out. 

The rest of the real world sees it as this. The media pushed for 2 years that there’d be some great reckoning for Trump regarding Russia. They were actively involved in drumming up hysteria from dumbasses like you. They were wrong, of course. Now he can point to the mainstream media even more as being untrustworthy and having an agenda. They waged a two year campaign for NOTHING. If you can’t see this, then you truly are lost. I’m sorry. 

Actually, I've never thought he was smart enough to collude. I did and still think he trades favors with Russians for personal gain.

I've always expected that he will meet his downfall in NY State court the next day after he leaves office.  Plenty of charges are just sitting their waiting. 

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4 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

The media was pushing but your hyperbole is no different.  This wasn't a report saying he's completely guilty or completely innocent.  NO SMOCKING GUN.  But it's ok, the people who pick sides just have to have a clear cut winner/loser.  That's not this, but again, it won't prevent partisans like you from acting like idiots. 

 

 

“The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

Completely innocent of collusion or being a “Russian asset”.

It did not prove or exonerate him with regards to obstruction, but he didn’t have to be exonerated. 

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“The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

Completely innocent of collusion or being a “Russian asset”.

It did not prove or exonerate him with regards to obstruction, but he didn’t have to be exonerated. 

It in no way says he's completely innocent of collusion. 

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1 minute ago, GRHorn said:

 

“The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

Completely innocent of collusion or being a “Russian asset”.

It did not prove or exonerate him with regards to obstruction, but he didn’t have to be exonerated. 

LOL, you put what they said in quotes...then interpret it however you want.  I promise it doesn't read 'completely innocent'.  Legit LOL. 

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