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That “majority” has been remembered as something that never actually existed. Let's clear that all up, shall we? Starting January 2009, at the beginning of the 111th Congress, in the month that Bara

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I'd pay good money to watch Big John Fetterman beat Steve Bannon to death with Roger Stone. 

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27 minutes ago, Voldemort86 said:

How bad was he

I watched about 15 minutes. It was, how do you say... not good. 

I'm not sure how sharp he was at public speaking before the stroke, but lots of pauses, breaks in sentences, missing words, and answers that don't make sense.

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2 minutes ago, Voldemort86 said:

So we could lose the senate and the all important ability to appoint judges because of a stroke and a guy in North Carolina who couldn’t keep his pants on.

great………

Holy shit you are such a beating. 

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4 minutes ago, Voldemort86 said:

I guess you could say I might be over reacting to some of the stuff I’m seeing on the internet right now, but conservatives are pretty much doing a victory lap and saying this race is over.

And since when and why do we listen to them?

Oz had the worst sound clip of the whole night that’s going to be played for 2 weeks straight. That was a grade A stupid fuckup by him. 

Debates are won or lost by the clips that get passed around. Hillary won all 3 debates. What did that get her? 

Oz’s local politician thing and Fetterman’s Bernie/Vermont burn on Oz will get the social media treatment.

The GOP wants to victory lap the recovery of a stroke victim who had the balls to do the debate? Let them try. 

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I really really liked Fetterman before the stroke; he was one of the best prospects the Dems have had in awhile, but goddam the clips I have seen of the debate are brutal.  The man could not effectively communicate.  I still fervently hope he wins, Oz is a grifting ghoul.  But this debate will (and probably should) hurt Fetterman.

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I really really liked Fetterman before the stroke; he was one of the best prospects the Dems have had in awhile, but goddam the clips I have seen of the debate are brutal.  The man could not effectively communicate.  I still fervently hope he wins, Oz is a grifting ghoul.  But this debate will (and probably should) hurt Fetterman.

Did you seriously just declare “I used to like him before he had a medical issue”??

Whew.

Burn the cripples, am I right?
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And while I’m here, I really thought I had lost the capacity to get furious over the bullshittery that drips from these assholes mouths but that “local political leaders” but has still got me fuming.

This coming from the absolute titty babies who have screamed and whined for going on THREE YEARS about the tyranny of being asked to wear a mask or vaccine mandates??

Fuckkkkkk offfffffff

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And while I’m here, I really thought I had lost the capacity to get furious over the bullshittery that drips from these assholes mouths but that “local political leaders” but has still got me fuming.

This coming from the absolute titty babies who have screamed and whined for going on THREE YEARS about the tyranny of being asked to wear a mask or vaccine mandates??

Fuckkkkkk offfffffff

We would still be pissed off, but if he had said "Religious Leaders" or "Your State's settled law" or "Your Faith of Choice's Scripture" or even "The Highest Court in the Land" or "Moral Law"........it'd be bullshit, but nothing we haven't heard before.  But that he went with "Local Political Leaders" is just baffling to me.  There's no abortion law set at the municipal level.  

I made the mistake once of letting my local political leaders decide my colonoscopy procedure.  I should have gone with Commissioner of Water & Sanitation, but instead listened to the Deputy Mayor and now I can't sit right after I eat cheese.  

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We would still be pissed off, but if he had said "Religious Leaders" or "Your State's settled law" or "Your Faith of Choice's Scripture" or even "The Highest Court in the Land" or "Moral Law"........it'd be bullshit, but nothing we haven't heard before.  But that he went with "Local Political Leaders" is just baffling to me.  There's no abortion law set at the municipal level.  
I made the mistake once of letting my local political leaders decide my colonoscopy procedure.  I should have gone with Commissioner of Water & Sanitation, but instead listened to the Deputy Mayor and now I can't sit right after I eat cheese.  

It’s nearly the script of that Abbot attack ad.


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1 hour ago, YGIFS said:

We would still be pissed off, but if he had said "Religious Leaders" or "Your State's settled law" or "Your Faith of Choice's Scripture" or even "The Highest Court in the Land" or "Moral Law"........it'd be bullshit, but nothing we haven't heard before.  But that he went with "Local Political Leaders" is just baffling to me.  There's no abortion law set at the municipal level.  

I made the mistake once of letting my local political leaders decide my colonoscopy procedure.  I should have gone with Commissioner of Water & Sanitation, but instead listened to the Deputy Mayor and now I can't sit right after I eat cheese.  

There’s a bat signal for you in the Paxton thread.

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I think you guys are seriously overestimating the abortion issue. A ton of them love what’s going on with Roe overruled. Others don’t like it “but inflation” or “but socialism”. All in all I just don’t see it making a difference. If republicans take over we might as well just rip up the constitution and start over.

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9 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

This seems good.
 

It's over a million now. 

They're going up today with the "woman, doctor, local politician" line on paid media. 

I think people underestimate how much Fetterman's recovery will resonate with voters.  Something like 25-30% of the population will or has experienced a stroke and it's probably way higher in terms of people who have family members who experienced and recovered from a stroke.  Attacking him for it is not going to be a good look, but Republicans don't have hearts, so it's par for the course. 

The people who weren't going to vote for him won't change their minds.  Probably a bigly number of "undecided" voters who were just Republicans who don't like Oz.  Going after him for it is going to be akin to going after Biden's speech impediment - clips that will be passed around gleefully around conservative Reddit and Twitter. 

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31 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I think you guys are seriously overestimating the abortion issue. A ton of them love what’s going on with Roe overruled. Others don’t like it “but inflation” or “but socialism”. All in all I just don’t see it making a difference. If republicans take over we might as well just rip up the constitution and start over.

Abortion is towards the bottom of the list of key issues for voters according to polling I’ve seen. Tied with January 6th towards the bottom well behind inflation and crime. Those 2 issues are important to suburban women and they’ll most likely come back to the GOP fold. At least that’s my hope.

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3 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

Abortion is towards the bottom of the list of key issues for voters according to polling I’ve seen. Tied with January 6th towards the bottom well behind inflation and crime. Those 2 issues are important to suburban women and they’ll most likely come back to the GOP fold. At least that’s my hope.

No they won’t.  Hope in one hand, shit your racist takes in the other. 

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21 minutes ago, Js1 said:

It's over a million now. 

They're going up today with the "woman, doctor, local politician" line on paid media. 

I think people underestimate how much Fetterman's recovery will resonate with voters.  Something like 25-30% of the population will or has experienced a stroke and it's probably way higher in terms of people who have family members who experienced and recovered from a stroke.  Attacking him for it is not going to be a good look, but Republicans don't have hearts, so it's par for the course. 

The people who weren't going to vote for him won't change their minds.  Probably a bigly number of "undecided" voters who were just Republicans who don't like Oz.  Going after him for it is going to be akin to going after Biden's speech impediment - clips that will be passed around gleefully around conservative Reddit and Twitter. 

I think your read is wrong. 
 

Are these polls ever so one sided?

Also, I guess this is where Chris Cuomo landed. 
 

 

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18 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

Abortion is towards the bottom of the list of key issues for voters according to polling I’ve seen. Tied with January 6th towards the bottom well behind inflation and crime. Those 2 issues are important to suburban women and they’ll most likely come back to the GOP fold. At least that’s my hope.

Here's hoping your hope follows this trajectory:

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11 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

The vast majority of voters didn’t even know this debate happened tonight. I sure as shit didn’t. 

This is correct.  I challenge anybody to show me a single non-presidential race in the last 30 years in which a debate had a measurable impact on the outcome.

It's meaningful for the Twitterati.  But actual voters don't watch and don't care.

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1 hour ago, YChang said:

What's the GOP solution to inflation? Other than tax cuts for wealthy and corporations which the evidence so far worldwide doesn't seem to imply it works very well.  

Nothing and that nothing won’t work 

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1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

This is correct.  I challenge anybody to show me a single non-presidential race in the last 30 years in which a debate had a measurable impact on the outcome.

It's meaningful for the Twitterati.  But actual voters don't watch and don't care.

I don't know. I think it's likely Beto's failure to go in for the kill with Ted Cruz during their debate probably cost him the 2-3ppts, IOW, enough. 

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1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

This is correct.  I challenge anybody to show me a single non-presidential race in the last 30 years in which a debate had a measurable impact on the outcome.

It's meaningful for the Twitterati.  But actual voters don't watch and don't care.

Look up Todd Akin’s senate race and his “legitimate rape” comment. 

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5 minutes ago, Voldemort86 said:

Look up Todd Akin’s senate race and his “legitimate rape” comment. 

Undecideds don't watch the debates, but they do read/hear the snippets.  

I am hopping the mother/doctor/politician snippit travels better than Fetterman's troubles.  But, I am concerned just the general narrative of "that guy is still pretty fucked up" will become common accepted even amongst people who never watch a single clip or read a single line.  

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