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  On 4/22/2018 at 6:22 AM, 4th&Five said:

Just turned this on at 1:22 in the morning and I hear Mack Fucking Brown talking about our QB issues and how “they” haven’t had a QB in a long time. Shoot me. 

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Well he’s not wrong.....   Watching Sam and Shane yesterday was brutal.   The defense needs to throw shutouts this year 

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  On 4/22/2018 at 12:38 PM, taybo20 said:
What’s the point of running QB power when the QB is in non contact jersey?
Practice? I don't see how people forget the spring game isn't really a game. In fact, both the offense and defense would be giving far more looks in a practice session closed to the media, and more importantly...LHN cameras.
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  On 4/22/2018 at 3:29 PM, hornian said:
What a stupid take.
Scholz's is unprepared? Blame the coach!
Beer is expensive in the stadium? Blame the coach!
Nachos and pretzels are cold? Blame the coach!
Yeah, reading that it's apparent he isn't the sharpest spoon in the drawer..
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  On 4/22/2018 at 3:26 PM, Tailgate said:

I hope the freshman QB’s have the chance to compete to start this Fall. 

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Yeah, what we really need is another true FR QB out there that's not even close to ready. 

This cycle of abandoning QBs for true freshman isn't going to solve the QB issues. 

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If the offense moves the ball easily then everyone's stressed about the defense.

 

It's reassuring that we already know the defense is good and our vanilla offenses scored 20 on them. It's also reassuring that the teams were pretty evenly divided with lots of good defenders on both Orange and White defense and LJH and CJ were split up on offense. I think if you put all of our best offensive talent together on one team (LJH, CJ, Young and Leitao/Beck) that they are going to move the ball on most defenses. Factor in that the oline played the ENTIRE game and were bound to be worn out, there's reason to be optimistic. Our offense couldn't do shit against our D in the spring game last year and we all know that that defense started out the season VERY shaky. At least we put together a few positive drives this year.

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  On 4/22/2018 at 3:54 PM, Billy Pilgrim said:

If the offense moves the ball easily then everyone's stressed about the defense.

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Spring games are zero-sum. I would be more worried about our DL/pass rush if they weren't capable of getting a pass rush against the OL we put out there yesterday. 

Also of note, I'm not sure our offense will play a better defensive front all year outside of maybe TCU.

 

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Posted (edited)
  On 4/22/2018 at 4:05 PM, David Dennison said:

Good lord I don't. That's the last thing this team needs.

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Yes because the other options are going to work...  Did you watch the first half of the spring game?  The freshman can’t be worse I don’t think.  Sam’s good for 6 yard outs and pretty much nothing else same as last year is what I learned.

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  On 4/22/2018 at 4:09 PM, Hook1997 said:

Yes because the other options are going to work...  Did you watch the first half of the spring game?  The freshman can’t be worse I don’t think.

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Shane and Sam were not terrible. They aren't going to carry this team, but they weren't awful. And please don't tell me that your opinion of the freshmen was formed based on what they did against the 2s, 3s and walk-ons.

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  On 4/22/2018 at 4:09 PM, Hook1997 said:

Yes because the other options are going to work...  Did you watch the first half of the spring game?  The freshman can’t be worse I don’t think.

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If they can't be worse, experience wins. Those two freshmen are red shirting barring injury. Even then, Heard will probably take snaps before they do. 

The very last thing I want to see on this football team is a true freshman playing quarterback again.

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  On 4/22/2018 at 4:09 PM, Hook1997 said:

Yes because the other options are going to work...  Did you watch the first half of the spring game?  The freshman can’t be worse I don’t think.

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  On 4/22/2018 at 4:11 PM, Machinator said:

Shane and Sam were not terrible. They aren't going to carry this team, but they weren't awful. And please don't tell me that your opinion of the freshmen was formed based on what they did against the 2s, 3s and walk-ons.

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I’m just really dissapointed that neither showed growth and that Sam is Obviously not the answer and will still lose us games I think

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  On 4/22/2018 at 3:36 PM, Lat22 said:

I know it was just the spring game, but my impression was a resounding “meh”. 

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I tuned in long enough to watch us run a sprint out to the right with two receivers within 3 yards of each other totally covered in the end zone, and then the QB (Boo?) reverse his field and throw back across to CJ who just barely snagged a TD reception over Boyce. 

 

Yup. We’re in mid season form. 

My impression is this.  We need a LOT of immediate, effective help in the OL, and hope the punter consistent.  

 

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  On 4/22/2018 at 4:13 PM, Hook1997 said:

 

I’m just really dissapointed that neither showed growth and that Sam is Obviously not the answer and will still lose us games I think

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it's a  spring game. I don't know how anyone can judge someone like Ehlinger in a spring game when his biggest strength is the run game. Spring games are glorified practices. 

There's obviously some issues on the offensive line if we suffer any injuries, but there's not much to take away from the QBs in a spring game setting. 

 

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Posted (edited)
  On 4/22/2018 at 4:16 PM, David Dennison said:

It was practice. They looked fine.

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Practice or not I’m not sure how you can be optimistic when both completed less then fifty percent of their passes....  that’s not looking fine.   Just pissed right now bc the qb position is going to cost us lots of games again this year I think.

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  On 4/22/2018 at 4:21 PM, Hook1997 said:

Practice or not I’m not sure how you can be optimistic when both completed less then fifty percent of their passes....  that’s not looking fine.   Just pissed right now bc the qb position is going to cost us lots of games again this year I think.

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Be pissed.

I'm extremely optimistic about the upcoming season for the first time in nearly a decade. The number one reason why? Experience behind the center.

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  On 4/22/2018 at 4:09 PM, Hook1997 said:

  Sam’s good for 6 yard outs and pretty much nothing else same as last year is what I learned.

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It's almost like the offensive line was a makeshift OL like last year without Anderson, Hudson, and Grandy so they couldn't block in pass pro. 

Have you thought maybe the reason we continue to throw short 6 yard outs is because of offensive line issues and not the QBs? 

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Sidenote: I think we're jumping the gun by penciling in Grandy as a starter. He has great physical potential coming out of JUCO, but he's still raw, and he missed most of spring with a concussion.

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IT: Spring Game Quick Reaction: Offense

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  On 4/22/2018 at 4:23 PM, David Dennison said:

I'm extremely optimistic about the upcoming season for the first time in nearly a decade. The number one reason why? Experience behind the center.

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lol wut? I mean... I guess you could call Shack experienced but he has yet to complete a season healthy.

Be optimistic that hardly anything we saw yesterday from the OL (personnel wise) is what we'll see in the fall.

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  On 4/22/2018 at 4:31 PM, BigHorn'13 said:

lol wut? I mean... I guess you could call Shack experienced but he has yet to complete a season healthy.

Be optimistic that hardly anything we saw yesterday from the OL (personnel wise) is what we'll see in the fall.

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Not to be nit-picky, but I said experience behind the center, not experience at center.

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  On 4/22/2018 at 4:34 PM, texasstrong12 said:
I am absolutely shocked that satyanash is taking a pessimistic view. 
Sorry for not trying to sunshine-pump the hell out of what happened yesterday.

Everything I'm reading on this board "It's just practice" "We just ran vanilla stuff" is stuff I've heard before. Remember this when we start running utterly predictable plays again this season.
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  On 4/22/2018 at 4:40 PM, satyanash said:

Sorry for not trying to sunshine-pump the hell out of what happened yesterday.

Everything I'm reading on this board "It's just practice" "We just ran vanilla stuff" is stuff I've heard before. Remember this when we start running utterly predictable plays again this season.

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I'll remember it when we win more games than we did last year.

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  On 4/22/2018 at 4:40 PM, satyanash said:

Sorry for not trying to sunshine-pump the hell out of what happened yesterday.

Everything I'm reading on this board "It's just practice" "We just ran vanilla stuff" is stuff I've heard before. Remember this when we start running utterly predictable plays again this season.

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Nobody is sunshine-pumping the hell out of everything . There's obviously issues on the OL and at RB. But there's a thing called context. Ya know it being a spring game and Texas likely  missing 2 or 3 starters on the offensive line. 

I know this doesn't align with your constant negativity and pessimism, so I'm probably just talking to a wall. 

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  On 4/22/2018 at 4:40 PM, satyanash said:

Sorry for not trying to sunshine-pump the hell out of what happened yesterday.

Everything I'm reading on this board "It's just practice" "We just ran vanilla stuff" is stuff I've heard before. Remember this when we start running utterly predictable plays again this season.

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Look, we might (probably) have issues with the o-line and playcalling this season. But using the spring game as evidence for your conclusions is just dumb.

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  On 4/22/2018 at 4:44 PM, Machinator said:

Look, we might (probably) have issues with the o-line and playcalling this season. But using the spring game as evidence for your conclusions is just dumb.

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Well, the usual suspects did usual suspecty things on the OL, we need people to come in and start or come back from injury and start at several positions on that unit, and the sprint out pass fetish seems to be raging unabated. It’s not a reach to look at that, consider our recent past and project the offense to likely be pretty bad. Not entirely putrid, but capable of inducing nausea on a drive to drive basis. 

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Posted
  On 4/22/2018 at 3:30 PM, Hook1997 said:

This...   It’s our only hope to win 9 games 

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This is an unbelievably dumb take. 

  On 4/22/2018 at 4:21 PM, Hook1997 said:

Practice or not I’m not sure how you can be optimistic when both completed less then fifty percent of their passes....  that’s not looking fine.   Just pissed right now bc the qb position is going to cost us lots of games again this year I think.

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Most pass plays they had guys in their face or had to scramble and throw it away., so the 50% is very misleading. When they had time, they both made some good throws, although beuchele has to hit those deep balls. 

I’m not optimistic about OL, or offense as a whole in any sense, but we were playing guys like Urquidez and Imade. Guys who will almost definitely never see the field in a real game. Urquidez killed a lot of drives by himself, he was called for holding and gave up multiple sacks and got killed by hager almost every play. There’s not much you can take from a spring game where the staff is letting Hager go up against Urquidez.

When our line blocked half-decent, our offense looked passable. The QBs and skill positions aren’t keeping us from becoming a decent O, it’s the OL. The hope now is that plugging in Anderson, and then hoping that Okafor or Hudson can take over the RG spot will do a lot to solidify things. Personally, I’m extremely high on Okafor as a G. He flat out can’t play tackle, but he’s always gotten great movement in the run game and can pass block if he doesn’t have to worry about getting beat on the edge. 

 

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  On 4/22/2018 at 4:58 PM, Bobby_Batronic said:

Well, the usual suspects did usual suspecty things on the OL, we need people to come in and start or come back from injury and start at several positions on that unit, and the sprint out pass fetish seems to be raging unabated. It’s not a reach to look at that, consider our recent past and project the offense to likely be pretty bad. Not entirely putrid, but capable of inducing nausea on a drive to drive basis. 

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I would be elated if I never saw another sprint out the entire season. Beck’s offense in general has way too much lateral movement and not enough stressing the defense vertically. Hopefully Duvernay and Burt coming on will change that. 

Herman did a great job stretching the field vertically at tOSU. Beck has always sucked at that. I really hoped Herman would alter that last year, but he didn’t. We have to attack deep this year. 

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  On 4/22/2018 at 5:03 PM, UT Lawnghorn said:

Herman did a great job stretching the field vertically at tOSU. Beck has always sucked at that. I really hoped Herman would alter that last year, but he didn’t. We have to attack deep this year. 

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I agree. I hate cutting off one side of the field like we did too often.

That said, you to succeed on vertical routes, you need a QB who can more often than not be on target (witness Buechele missing Burt multiple times) and an OL that can give us some time for those routes to develop (witness Malcolm Roach nearly killing Buechele on one of those plays).

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I remember the post Spring reactions from 2 years ago were a resounding: “we finally found our QB!” after Shane “tore it up.” Yes, Spring games are very misleading.  

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  On 4/22/2018 at 3:36 PM, Lat22 said:

I know it was just the spring game, but my impression was a resounding “meh”. 

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I tell you what would have made it better.  First, Grass.  Get off the turf.  Secondly, Don't ever let Galindo near a Texas Football game ever again ever.  And C, burn those fucking ugly ass black jersey's the lineman were wearing.  Burn them.

Posted
  On 4/22/2018 at 12:31 AM, texifornia said:

Bobby Burton said he was the worst take in the '16 class. Just want to put that out there again.

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I’m told Bobby Burton is an established moron.  

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About the LHN coverage:

The players don't have names on their jerseys yet the play by play rarely tells us who made plays. They became to wrapped up in their own opinions about the team's progress instead of telling me much about the new players. At times it felt like the audio feed was from a different place than the video feed.

It's still a little soon to have Mack commenting on Texas because he's not far enough removed from the situation at hand. I don't spend my days persecuting Mack Brown, but even I got irritated with him talking about the QB and OL situations which his tenure still impacts.

Give Manny Acho a valium. Every statement need not be proclamation from the hilltop. 

I hope they bring Vince back. He brings the goofy fun which is a nice note for the game day broadcasts. This isn't coverage of a nerve gas bombing of civilians; it's sports which should be fun.

I never know exactly what to make of Spring games. I though the newcomers were impressive and I loved seeing Wheeler make tackles nearer the sideline. A lot of nice individual efforts, but it's hard to deduce much about the team. Even so, I feel good about winning some of those very close games that got away from us last year.

Hook 'Em!

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I thought Boyce looked pretty good, CJ just made some freakish catches in tight coverage.  Could definitely tell he's added weight/muscle since last year.  Think he arrived at about 160-165 lbs.

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