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The Midnight Sky (apocalyptic, Netflix, Starring (and Directed by) George Clooney plus Kyle Chandler)

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Our humanity always endures. This post-apocalyptic tale follows Augustine (George Clooney), a lonely scientist in the Arctic, as he races to stop Sully (Felicity Jones) and her fellow astronauts from returning home to Earth, where a mysterious global catastrophe has taken place. Clooney directs the adaptation of Lily Brooks-Dalton’s acclaimed novel Good Morning, Midnight, co-starring David Oyelowo, Kyle Chandler, Demián Bichir and Tiffany Boone. Coming to Netflix December 23rd.

I'm in.  I mean, it's not like I have to go out of my way since it's on Netflix, and it'll be dropping right before Christmas.

The fact that they are releasing it in theaters briefly is probably an awards thing - they must be liking something about Clooney starring/directing.

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36 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Thing I can’t get past is making it such a big deal that the crew survive. Sorry, even if you could survive on that moon without supplies, you don’t have enough genetic diversity to repopulate the human race. At the end, the logical move would be suicide to avoid long term suffering.

Yup. Like you really did need the other dudes to help with diversity, but even then, you’re still fucking your half siblings 

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Yup. Like you really did need the other dudes to help with diversity, but even then, you’re still fucking your half siblings 

And even if they can live there, eventually their daughter will be alone.

With the entire crew of 3 guys and 2 women, you could have a well designed breeding program over a few decades or a high brow porno plot.
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Good visuals but a story that didn't know how it wanted to end.
Martian was much better as a comparison.

It didn’t seem like it didn’t know how to begin as well. Just the worst global catastrophe in human history and they decided to just leave out any facts about it. Instead let’s just focus on the interaction between the crew who I didn’t care about one bit.

Too bad there wasn’t a single white male left to help start a new civilization.
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I really wish I would have checked this thread before suffering through this movie last night. Man was that a slow painful watch. Felt like the story had been done a 100 times before with this one looking to further lower the bar...

Script actually had "Wish me luck....  Good luck" as a non-funny conversation moment.

I had no care in the world that everyone might die at the end as I thought everyone was thinking that would be the best outcome.

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On 12/24/2020 at 5:13 PM, Mileslong said:

Just the worst global catastrophe in human history and they decided to just leave out any facts about it.

Beyond frustrating. I'm not someone who needs everything spelled out, but c'mon. 

Speculation online that there was some kind of EMP accident that caused all nuclear weapons on earth to detonate. Oops. Important safety tip, thanks Egon.

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8 hours ago, Js1 said:

I just kept waiting for it to get better.

And then it was over. 

I did the same. Generally like Clooney movies. Kept waiting for it to get good. And then it didn’t. I started laughing at the last scene and told my girlfriend this is the end of the movie. She says no way, nothing’s happened. Exxxxactly.

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terrible film for stupid people.   sad that clooney not only acted in it but directed such a stupid film.

the book was written in 2008 so let's use that as the demarcation point for the overall situational/science.

this is not a science-fiction movie.   it is a near-future science drama and thus has to be held to a minimum standard of scientific acumen.

i never picked up how we somehow missed a galilean-sized moon in orbit around jupiter in the 409 years between 1610 and 2019 (when K23 is discovered in the book/film)

in a 2003 NASA study, based on data from the Pioneer, Voyager, Galileo and Cassini missions, the space weather around Jupiter was confirmed to be too hostile for any attempt at human habitation on 3 of the 4 Galilean moons.  if you want to geek out on jupiter's magnetosphere which is 1000x more powerful than earth's, go here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetosphere_of_Jupiter#Size_and_shape

long story short, K23, based on the film visuals, would be so close to jupiter that a human would receive 1000x the survivable rad dosage in a matter of minutes and there is no way whatsoever to shield that level of radiation.  again forgetting that we somehow missed a galilean-sized moon in 400 years of observations by millions of amateur astronomers and 6 space probes to jupiter before 2003.  the monoliths can have europa.  callisto is the only one we can survive on.

anyway, now on to the asteroid belt collisions and the first brief comms.  no reason was given for the aether's sudden course deviation, but whatever.  the em distance between the earth and the moon averages 2.56 seconds.  the em distance between the earth and mars is anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes depending on orbital position.  a big deal is made in the film about not being able to comm unless it's "real-time" direct comms.   okay, fine, maybe the equipment at the polar observatory was not designed to send non-real time comms, despite the systems having full command and control knowledge of dozens of missions that are shown as "decommissioned" (another glitch that doesn't make sense but i digress)......

so anyway, let's be generous and say that the big dish that clooney gets to in order to comm with the aether mission for "real time" comms.... takes place at a EM distance of 10 seconds, 4 times the distance of the moon.

the aether is traversing space that "no one has been to" but is somehow full of asteroids that we never mapped prior to 2049 given the scope of our space program posited in this book/film.

AND, if they course-corrected within an EM distance of 10 seconds in to space where "no one has been out there" then they are going to miss earth by a bajillion klicks.

in addition, the asteroids of the depicted size and mass would be moving at a perpindicular vector to the aether at a speed rendering them invisible to all but the most specialized optics, and would obliterate any conventional spacecraft instantly.

last science gripe: i thought the special effects shots of the aether looked like the halo (mmp space game).  animation, not high-end cg like the martian, or prometheus, etc.

the ebert review seems fit for purpose, describing the cinematic aspects (failures):  ".... the plot begins to make less and less sense...."

"Most of the time, “The Midnight Sky” drifts like space debris between its three settings—shuttle, Arctic, flashbacks—instead of feeling like it's building momentum. It’s like Clooney the director was so concerned about adequately conveying the details of each part of his story that he never broke down the meaning of them or the characters involved. All of the other films mentioned in this review that clearly inspired this one never lost their characters. The heart of this movie just isn’t there. It’s as weightless as space."

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-midnight-sky-movie-review-2020

 

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You assholes.  I kind of liked the movie until I read this thread and began to think about it.  Blame it on pain-med euphoria (herniated disc).

I was also wondering about the speed in which communicate.  I was thinking about The Martian and issues related to being able to communicate in real time.  Suddenly finding a habitable moon in our solar system was stupid as well.

SPOILERS:

 

One thing that did kind of bother me at the end was the earlier scene which specifically led the viewer to believe a child was missing.  I guess the director threw that in to ensure the viewer didn't catch the twist too early????

 

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12 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

I never picked up how we somehow missed a galilean-sized moon in orbit around jupiter in the 409 years between 1610 and 2019 (when K23 is discovered in the book/film)

in a 2003 NASA study, based on data from the Pioneer, Voyager, Galileo and Cassini missions, the space weather around Jupiter was confirmed to be too hostile for any attempt at human habitation on 3 of the 4 Galilean moons.  if you want to geek out on jupiter's magnetosphere which is 1000x more powerful than earth's, go here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetosphere_of_Jupiter#Size_and_shape

long story short, K23, based on the film visuals, would be so close to jupiter that a human would receive 1000x the survivable rad dosage in a matter of minutes and there is no way whatsoever to shield that level of radiation.  again forgetting that we somehow missed a galilean-sized moon in 400 years of observations by millions of amateur astronomers and 6 space probes to jupiter before 2003.  the monoliths can have europa.  callisto is the only one we can survive on.

 

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I'm the outlier on this one; I liked it.

Went in with zero expectations due to this thread, so that helped. Also think it's because I've only watched football over the last two weeks, so the change up probably glossed over the film's issues. 

 

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On 1/2/2021 at 1:59 PM, Js1 said:

 

i assume you are trolling me....  but i'll play.

in the movie, k23 is depicted as the size of a galilean moon, large enough to have the gravity necessary to retain an atmosphere with surface liquids.

it is also depicted as orbiting jupiter at a distance much less than that of callisto, the galilean moon that orbits the furthest distance from jupiter.

thus, galileo would have discovered k23 in the year 1610.  it would be visible from earth with his 20x telescope.

therefore, the movie is bullshit.

abracadabra.

result set for view of jupiter from callisto:

https://www.google.com/search?q=view+of+jupiter+from+callisto&client=firefox-b-1-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjGxsGOmoXuAhVNS6wKHamrAdkQ_AUoAXoECBAQAw&biw=1536&bih=722

 

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8 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

i assume you are trolling me....  but i'll play.

in the movie, k23 is depicted as the size of a galilean moon, large enough to have the gravity necessary to retain an atmosphere with surface liquids.

it is also depicted as orbiting jupiter at a distance much less than that of callisto, the galilean moon that orbits the furthest distance from jupiter.

thus, galileo would have discovered k23 in the year 1610.  it would be visible from earth with his 20x telescope.

therefore, the movie is bullshit.

abracadabra.

result set for view of jupiter from callisto:

https://www.google.com/search?q=view+of+jupiter+from+callisto&client=firefox-b-1-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjGxsGOmoXuAhVNS6wKHamrAdkQ_AUoAXoECBAQAw&biw=1536&bih=722

 

Yes, it was a joke. 

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I enjoyed the movie. Its how some of the things on Netflix work. Movies that would have flopped at the box office, or ones that would have been straight to video movies from the last generation, are put up on the streaming platform and people watch with low expectation. It works.

The screenwriters don't want you to care about what caused the apocalypse, or what kind of gas is on the fictional moon of Jupiter. Its just a set up for the emotional stuff with the little girl and the old guy walking across the Arctic together.

 

 

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