American Civil War II

[Fastbreak 3,934]

The upcoming war will go one of two ways:

1) like 1930s Germany, people will be identified and then eliminated based on race, education levels (foolish “elites”), religion or sexual orientation. Government agencies mixed with “Brown shirt” like independent groups will carry out the dirty work. There will be a resistance, but it will have be deep underground due to the surveillance and tracking already available.

2) a increasing series of domestic terrors attacks organized by a central militia-like separatist organization against the government. There will be many small skirmishes until a Waco-like incident takes place gaining populist support which increases the violence. Eventually, a powerful military leader will emerge and lead a large force of defected military units against the government.

 

But no doubt, there is a war of some kind coming. 

Edited November 1, 2020 by Fastbreak

[FOXHOUND 1,014]

We've been in a cold Civil War for 40 something years now. This cake has been baking since the passage of the Civil Rights act. And there is currently a President in office that carries the banner of white nationalism, he is their champion like Prince Oberyn. Hopefully the mass of people that reject the slow fascist takeover will win the day Tuesday night. I'm literally afraid for this country if we have another 2000 situation. 

[Celery Man 20,831]

18 minutes ago, FOXHOUND said:

We've been in a cold Civil War for 40 something years now. This cake has been baking since the passage of the Civil Rights act. And there is currently a President in office that carries the banner of white nationalism, he is their champion like Prince Oberyn. Hopefully the mass of people that reject the slow fascist takeover will win the day Tuesday night. I'm literally afraid for this country if we have another 2000 situation. 

if prince oberyn was an old dumb fat racist turd who was put in to fight against some other rickety old guy as champion for this guy

[Biff Tannen 45,420]

Game of Thrones talk on the completely rational Civil War 2 thread not going away. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13,049]

I've never seen the show or read George Martin (that's the author, right?) so the only bit I know is the 'winter is coming' phrase. I don't think I'm ready for this thread on a Sunday morning so I'mma pass.

[UTGrad98 2,252]

I have not allocated any of my time for a civil war starting next Tuesday. 

[Pam Cummings 9,504]

Trump supporters(and most of the American population really) are total pussies who couldn't handle the realities of war. Real life conflict isn't the same as retweeting maga twitters and arguing with twitter bots. All the corporations who "love" trump because he makes it OK for them to shit on their employees would definitely not benefit from war. So no, i don't think that there is anything resembling a war on the horizon. Just more petulant, dishonest social media bullshit.

Edited November 1, 2020 by Pam Cummings

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,355]

Vanilla ISIS might try to create a Cowlafate.

[Onboard 2.0 9,083]

20 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Trump supporters(and most of the American population really) are total pussies who couldn't handle the realities of war. Real life conflict isn't the same as retweeting maga twitters and arguing with twitter bots. All the corporations who "love" trump because he makes it OK for them to shit on their employees would definitely not benefit from war. So no, i don't think that there is anything resembling a war on the horizon. Just more petulant, dishonest social media bullshit.

Jesus Christ you're walking cliche of stereotypes..  I wanna see the Berkley brigade handle being out of Starbucks coffee on the battlefield... of what did you call it ? real life conflict ? Hahahahahahahahaha thanks for the Sunday morning laugh.

[USMCHorn 1,369]

4 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Jesus Christ you're walking cliche of stereotypes..  I wanna see the Berkley brigade handle being out of Starbucks coffee on the battlefield... of what did you call it ? real life conflict ? Hahahahahahahahaha thanks for the Sunday morning laugh.

Did you not read the ”and most of the American population really” part of the post, or are you just really fucking dense? Honest question.

Edited November 1, 2020 by USMCHorn

[Vito Andolini 9,067]

I’m gonna want that Marine dude on my side, TIA.

[SmokeyTheBear 5,562]

4 minutes ago, USMCHorn said:

Did you not read the ”and most of the American population really” part of the post, or are you just really fucking dense? Honest question.

It's onboard, soooo

Edited November 1, 2020 by SmokeyTheBear

[Onboard 2.0 9,083]

1 hour ago, USMCHorn said:

Did you not read the ”and most of the American population really” part of the post, or are you just really fucking dense? Honest question.

I didn't, and, he/she may have edited the post  (see: edited 1 hour ago). 

Edited November 1, 2020 by Onboard 2.0

[BradInATX 9,208]

Jesus Christ you're walking cliche of stereotypes..  I wanna see the Berkley brigade handle being out of Starbucks coffee on the battlefield... of what did you call it ? real life conflict ? Hahahahahahahahaha thanks for the Sunday morning laugh.

You're so terrified of the Berkeley Brigade that you're boarding up your business for the third time. Lulz.

[tantric superman 4,667]

When the Civil War comes I'm going to start sporting one of these

...and I'm going to groom a whole cadre of beautiful Texas Fifth Columnists....

[Chewy's Hairy Horn 867]

Once hostilities begin, I’m definitely going to cheat on my taxes. Should be able to Trump that shit up bigly among all the chaos.

[Radical Larry 28,494]

Thread title should have been “Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo”

[WhatTheBuck 28,694]

Just like in the 1860's, if you're on the side that's waving the Confederate flag, you're on the wrong side. 

[JohnnyRage 1,617]

It is scary how many guns and how much ammunition is out there, and it's in the hands of a concentrated segment.

The military elite will side with defending the Constitution. But some of the not so elite and the blue liners think they are going to defend the Constitution somehow by attacking Americans. If there is not a coordinated groundswell, then it will just manifest itself in domestic terrorism.

[immamac 42,359]

The US military would be involved. There will be no civil war because one side will have too much power. There will possibly be violent civil unrest instead of peaceful protest, but even that will end quickly. 

[troph 24,475]

I’m in. Let’s do this.

[Degenerate Gardner 4,074]

The Civil War chess pieces will be much fatter this time around.

[El Diablo 4,232]

I've got my phone charged, ready to take video and post on FB for "likes". 

Doing my part.

[troph 24,475]

Jesus Christ you're walking cliche of stereotypes..  I wanna see the Berkley brigade handle being out of Starbucks coffee on the battlefield... of what did you call it ? real life conflict ? Hahahahahahahahaha thanks for the Sunday morning laugh.

The thing is trump types lives aren’t really on the line. They are the weak ones. Minorities and us queers are the ones who are under threat of loss of our rights and even murder. So come at me bro.

[troph 24,475]

It is scary how many guns and how much ammunition is out there, and it's in the hands of a concentrated segment.
The military elite will side with defending the Constitution. But some of the not so elite and the blue liners think they are going to defend the Constitution somehow by attacking Americans. If there is not a coordinated groundswell, then it will just manifest itself in domestic terrorism.

It will be domestic terrorism. It won’t be largely seen as a concerted effort but it is and will be. Hopefully resources will be devoted (finally) to stamping out white supremacy.

[Dahobbs 17,322]

1 hour ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

I didn't, and that point is true on many levels.  

I presume you were referring to the part about you being really fucking dense.

Edited November 1, 2020 by Dahobbs

[MissingInAction 24,708]

1 hour ago, USMCHorn said:

Did you not read the ”and most of the American population really” part of the post, or are you just really fucking dense? Honest question.

Narrator: He is that dense.

[Guest]

As much as those on the left imagine everything being 1930's  Germany with this being the chance to stop Hitler, the right sees everything as 1770's colonial America with people fighting off the British with their musket.

 

Both sides are laughably mistaken.

Edited November 1, 2020 by slorch

[troph 24,475]

It’s not hitler but it is fascist propaganda and strategies. He’s not genocidal like hitler, but he does incite white suprematists to violence. And we can’t let that go any farther, we really can’t.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, troph said:

It’s not hitler but it is fascist propaganda and strategies. He’s not genocidal like hitler, but he does incite white suprematists to violence. And we can’t let that go any farther, we really can’t.

Indeed.  the white supremacists are burning the cities right now.

so selective, this concern is...

Edited November 1, 2020 by slorch

[CowboyFred 1,151]

2 minutes ago, slorch said:

Indeed.  the white supremacists are burning the cities right now.

so selective, this concern is...

So the burning of cities is the left’s Boston Tea Party? 

[immamac 42,359]

6 minutes ago, slorch said:

As much as those on the left imagine everything being 1930's  Germany with this being the chance to stop Hitler, the right sees everything as 1770's colonial America with people fighting off the British with their musket.

 

Both sides are laughably mistaken.

There is going to be a bloody revolution, but it won't be like any of the others because we live in such significantly different times with different military powers and social media. 

To be effective in military operations you need significant organization and some secrecy. The intelligence community knows everything about groups that would even attempt something because people who aren't in the military are too stupid to organize to do real damage without randomness. 

What will end up happening is significant social unrest and violence that will need to be responded to or states start distancing themselves from the federal government and it has major economic impact between state trade. Really nothing is going to happen even if Trump wins except people getting all huffy like the first go round. If biden wins we just stop bleeding out as fast, but America is broken whoever wins. A real reform of representative government needs to happen. We desperately need at least 1 and up to 3 amendments to the constitution, it's been WAY too long without one. 

[troph 24,475]

Kidnapping elected officials? Pre-911 white suprematists responsible for the largest terrorist mass casualty strike in US history? FBI says white supremacy/domestic terrorism is our gravest domestic threat? White suprematists are in those riots too bub, bringing their assault rifles and shooting people too.

Not a fan of anarchists or antifa but that’s not even close to the same threat level as the militia and white supremacy groups - not even close.

[El Diablo 4,232]

Where's Barry Goldwater when you need him? 

[Captainant 27,239]

13 minutes ago, slorch said:

Indeed.  the white supremacists are burning the cities right now.

so selective, this concern is...

I mean, there's been multiple felony prosecutions against white supremacists for inciting riots and setting fires. Some just got arrested for plotting a kidnapping of a sitting governor. 

And your president cheered those people on. 

The sitting president, his family, and his administration are actively cheering on violence against the opposition party. Some fucksticks in our fucking state tried to run a team Biden car off the road. And the president's response was to say that he loves Texas. 

We are going to see rampant political violence from trump supporters. 

Try to hide your boner when it happens. 

Edited November 1, 2020 by Captainant

[RDCanecutter 26,176]

I call dibs on being a blockade runner. For references, my son once called me "The Han Solo of Mexican Embroidered Puebla Blouses."

[Neonmoon 38,127]

In this supposed civil war, it wouldn’t be a north v south rematch like Magas dream about. That’s pure fantasy. So how would this play out? I mean most people like their bbq, football, netflix, etc too much to really care. But let’s pretend. 

Let’s pretend Trump doesn’t win the election but steals it via his newly elected Supreme Court throwing out enough ballots to give him the victory. Let’s assume protests and riots start to happen. The we could assume Trump sends in the military to quash these riots. Only in red states because blue states won’t ask for help. Would he break that rule? Would the army go along? (Pause to remind everyone we’re already in a fascist state at this point, an election was ruled in dictators favor by dictator appointed judges and uses military to quash dissent, but most magas are too stupid to see that). So let’s say the riots and protests get quashed for the most part. 

Then the next phase will be interesting. Does life go back to normal? And everyone just wait to see if he breaks the two term rule? Will Anti-Trump militias start forming and attacking pro-Trump assets. 
 

Fear porn or no?

[TexArcher 37,391]

32 minutes ago, immamac said:

The US military would be involved. There will be no civil war because one side will have too much power. There will possibly be violent civil unrest instead of peaceful protest, but even that will end quickly. 

This is what I'm expecting.  If Trump loses and convinces his horde that he's been cheated, I expect them to show up with AR-15s over their shoulders at BLM events and federal buildings in every major city.  Clashes will be inevitable.  And for a brief moment, the ultimately regrettable militarization of police forces will be able to quell it before it explodes into a full-blown civil war.

That is my hope, anyway, because I don't think we're getting off the hook any easier than that.

[tx 3 putt 75,895]

23 minutes ago, troph said:

Kidnapping elected officials?

when they kidnap abbott, will they have a wheelchair friendly van for him ? 

[LTbear 4,152]

2 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Jesus Christ you're walking cliche of stereotypes..  I wanna see the Berkley brigade handle being out of Starbucks coffee on the battlefield... of what did you call it ? real life conflict ? Hahahahahahahahaha thanks for the Sunday morning laugh.

Berkeley PhD checking in. I hate Starbucks. Metaphor invalid. 

[NorthLoop 14,042]

5 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

when they kidnap abbott, will they have a wheelchair friendly van for him ? 

 

[Hank Chinaski 6,310]

2 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

All the corporations who "love" trump because he makes it OK for them to shit on their employees would definitely not benefit from war. So no, i don't think that there is anything resembling a war on the horizon. Just more petulant, dishonest social media bullshit.

This. Trump is useful to them until he's not. Anything resembling a civil war is not going to be good for business. 

[Helobious 9,461]

Mass shootings, random riots, assassination attempts, redneck wannabe “militias” claiming some ranch in bumfuck nowhere as separate from the US, never ending bitching on social media? Absolutely. 
 

All out Civil War? Nope. Probably never again to be honest. Warfare itself has changed so much for one. We have a complacent, bitchmade population that loves seeing itself as a victim (Left & Right). Not exactly ripe for action if shit really does go off.

[usmc0331horn 931]

What’s so civil about war anyway?

[TwiceHorn 31,019]

46 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I mean, there's been multiple felony prosecutions against white supremacists for inciting riots and setting fires. Some just got arrested for plotting a kidnapping of a sitting governor. 

And your president cheered those people on. 

The sitting president, his family, and his administration are actively cheering on violence against the opposition party. Some fucksticks in our fucking state tried to run a team Biden car off the road. And the president's response was to say that he loves Texas. 

We are going to see rampant political violence from trump supporters. 

Try to hide your boner when it happens. 

Yeah, lefty types may be behind the protests, but the actual burning and looting is identified either with the apolitical or the right.  And the right is moving/has moved so far right in some cases that it's anarchy/apolitical.

[softlynow 1,742]

1 hour ago, immamac said:

The US military would be involved. There will be no civil war because one side will have too much power. There will possibly be violent civil unrest instead of peaceful protest, but even that will end quickly. 

This is the correct answer. 

[Radical Larry 28,494]

Will Captain Andrew Luck start tweeting again? 

 

[Paul Wesley 3,273]

2 hours ago, immamac said:

The US military would be involved. There will be no civil war because one side will have too much power. There will possibly be violent civil unrest instead of peaceful protest, but even that will end quickly. 

I really wish this were correct.   But that's not how modern conflict zones work.

[Bateshorn 9,853]

2 hours ago, immamac said:

The US military would be involved. There will be no civil war because one side will have too much power. There will possibly be violent civil unrest instead of peaceful protest, but even that will end quickly. 

As Jim Jeffries put it: you’re bringing a gun to a drone fight. You tacticool fools who think you are going be part of some sort of Stalingrad 2 video game are absurd.  If the military has to get involved to establish some form of civil stability, it’s going to end very quickly and violently.  

Edited November 1, 2020 by Bateshorn

[Your Mom 4,766]

24 minutes ago, usmc0331horn said:

What’s so civil about war anyway?

Yep.  Axl Rose warned of of this shit 30 years ago, on the worst album they ever put out I might add.  This shit is nothing new.