terrorist shooting in vienna

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So the dead are nazis? Isis now good guys for killing nazis? Im confused. 

[Don Johnson 4757]

17 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

I mean Austria has one of the strongest nazi/vestiges of naziism populations in Europe.
You go to Berlin and tour the museum, the discussion of the rise of nazis and their governing period is sober, somber, and very matter of fact, with an appropriate amount of shame.
In Austria, you can go in a museum and see this:  

No knowledge on Nazis in Austria, but what a terrible example.  Museums are exactly where that type of stuff needs to be.  This is the Civil Rights Museum for example:

 

[BabaYaga 15321]

Jesus this fucking thread.  The amount pf intellectually lazy bullshit is stupefying.

• Jews were attacked
• In Austria
• Austria is where Hitler came from
• Austria has a higher NAZI sympathy rate supposedly than other EU nations
• Ergo......oh, wait...Muslim?  Nevermind....

Fuck

[TwiceHorn 31539]

To be fair, the Nazi talk, which is accurate, came up in response to the assertion that Vienna is a nice place, which is also accurate.

Just like the US, rural Europe, or perhaps Europe outside the large cities, has a nationalism/fascism problem.  In Austria, that traces pretty directly to the Nazi party of WWII.

Big-city Europe, on the other hand, seems to have a bit of a Muslim extremist problem.  Morseo, actually, than the US.

Edited November 3, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[Parliament 14325]

Jesus this fucking thread.  The amount pf intellectually lazy bullshit is stupefying.

• Jews were attacked
• In Austria
• Austria is where Hitler came from
• Austria has a higher NAZI sympathy rate supposedly than other EU nations
• Ergo......oh, wait...Muslim?  Nevermind....

Fuck

A reminder that the one killer they've caught so far was, in fact Muslim.

[BabaYaga 15321]

5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

To be fair, the Nazi talk, which is accurate, came up in response to the assertion that Vienna is a nice place, which is also accurate.

Just like the US, rural Europe, or perhaps Europe outside the large cities, has a nationalism/fascism problem.  In Austria, that traces pretty directly to the Nazi party of WWII.

Big-city Europe, on the other hand, seems to have a bit of a Muslim extremist problem.  Morseo, actually, than the US.

Accurate factually, but contextually irrelevant and misleading and overflowing with confirmation bias.  

[strangulation! 1716]

6 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Accurate factually, but contextually irrelevant and misleading and overflowing with confirmation bias.  

new surly motto?

[52-80 19258]

15 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

To be fair, the Nazi talk, which is accurate, came up in response to the assertion that Vienna is a nice place, which is also accurate.

Just like the US, rural Europe, or perhaps Europe outside the large cities, has a nationalism/fascism problem.  In Austria, that traces pretty directly to the Nazi party of WWII.

Big-city Europe, on the other hand, seems to have a bit of a Muslim extremist problem.  Morseo, actually, than the US.

The various crime rates in Vienna, and in all of Austria, including it's rural states, are amongst the lowest in Europe.

There are strict laws prohibiting nazi symbology and messages.  People commonly know that such laws exist in Germany.  The Austrian version version predate Germany's law by 2 years.

Briskets entire Nazi spiel was knee jerk and ignorant.

 

As far as these shooters, one was jailed and released last winter for various extremist Islam involvement.  The shooters were on video shouting Allahu Akhbar right after shooting some bystanders on the street.

 

[StruggleBus 3922]

Brisket is the new Gil Bang

Brisket'd doesn't sound as good as Gil Bang'd though

[workswithseed 2111]

2 hours ago, StruggleBus said:

Brisket is the new Gil Bang

Brisket'd doesn't sound as good as Gil Bang'd though

Texan's sounds fucking awesome, but that shouldn't be only in use for Brisket.

[ztejas 43541]

5 hours ago, 52-80 said:

There are strict laws prohibiting nazi symbology and messages. 

Yeah, but they have those laws everywhere! Including in America!

 

 

/s

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

On 11/2/2020 at 3:58 PM, Sandman said:

I went on a school trip to VIenna in the mid 80s, so this hits close to home. Great city, had a blast.

Fuck I ate Vienna sausages on saltines back in the day. 

[Deej 76935]

The Austrian Nazis have apparently teamed up with the radical Muslims. 

Ballgame.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

18 minutes ago, Deej said:

The Austrian Nazis have apparently teamed up with the radical Muslims. 

Ballgame.

That started happening in World War II

[Parliament 14325]

Well played.

[jdhorn92 1558]

20 hours ago, StruggleBus said:

Brisket is the new Gil Bang

Brisket'd doesn't sound as good as Gil Bang'd though

I propose Burnt Brisket to assign a failing  grade to Brisket’s Bunk Bullshit

[Macklemore 2876]

So Islamic Nazis are responsible?  

Muslims and the Nazis had mutual admiration for each other. There’s a reason why the term Islamofascists is accurate

Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who practically begged Hitler to come wipe out the Jews in Palestine

Waffen SS - Muslim SS volunteers



Hitler had positive things to say about Islam:

In speeches, Hitler purportedly made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".[10] Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."[11]

[Armybrat 40918]

23 hours ago, Don Johnson said:

No knowledge on Nazis in Austria, but what a terrible example.  Museums are exactly where that type of stuff needs to be.  This is the Civil Rights Museum for example:

 

Looks more like the aggy hall of honor museum.

[Armybrat 40918]

22 hours ago, 52-80 said:

The various crime rates in Vienna, and in all of Austria, including it's rural states, are amongst the lowest in Europe.

There are strict laws prohibiting nazi symbology and messages.  People commonly know that such laws exist in Germany.  The Austrian version version predate Germany's law by 2 years.

Briskets entire Nazi spiel was knee jerk and ignorant.

 

As far as these shooters, one was jailed and released last winter for various extremist Islam involvement.  The shooters were on video shouting Allahu Akhbar right after shooting some bystanders on the street.

 

Religion of Peace... welcome to America!

[InkaUtexas 26131]

19 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Looks more like the aggy hall of honor museum.

Nah, too many trophies. 

[Brisketexan 105379]

Yeah, to come back to this -- the point being rebutted was that Vienna is a great city.

I enjoyed visiting, some beautiful stuff there.....but Vienna (and even moreso, the rest of Austria) still ain't the most hospitable place to be jewish.  There remains an uncomfortably strong thread of nazi-sympathy/anti-semitism running through their society.  No, it's not a Nazi country.  But it's not the friendliest environment for a jewish person.  If I was jewish, I wouldn't be super comfortable living there.

But, whatever, it's paradise, I'm making up the strain of nazi sympathy that Austrians themselves acknowledge, whatever.

What I don't understand is why we find it so easy to believe that there's a material amount of shitheels in a "foreign" society (the islamic world, and their islamofascists and terrorist sympathizers), but we steadfastly refuse to acknowledge a material amount of shitheels in a western nation?  Why do we fight so hard to deny that they exist, and in some places, their numbers are significant enough to be problematic?

[workswithseed 2111]

49 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah, to come back to this -- the point being rebutted was that Vienna is a great city.

I enjoyed visiting, some beautiful stuff there.....but Vienna (and even moreso, the rest of Austria) still ain't the most hospitable place to be jewish.  There remains an uncomfortably strong thread of nazi-sympathy/anti-semitism running through their society.  No, it's not a Nazi country.  But it's not the friendliest environment for a jewish person.  If I was jewish, I wouldn't be super comfortable living there.

But, whatever, it's paradise, I'm making up the strain of nazi sympathy that Austrians themselves acknowledge, whatever.

What I don't understand is why we find it so easy to believe that there's a material amount of shitheels in a "foreign" society (the islamic world, and their islamofascists and terrorist sympathizers), but we steadfastly refuse to acknowledge a material amount of shitheels in a western nation?  Why do we fight so hard to deny that they exist, and in some places, their numbers are significant enough to be problematic?

Islamist kills jews, you yell "NAZI!" Maybe you're right, but at least you could talk about the people who actually killed them.

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

I enjoyed visiting, some beautiful stuff there.....but Vienna (and even moreso, the rest of Austria) still ain't the most hospitable place to be jewish.  There remains an uncomfortably strong thread of nazi-sympathy/anti-semitism running through their society.  No, it's not a Nazi country.  But it's not the friendliest environment for a jewish person.  If I was jewish, I wouldn't be super comfortable living there.

You're basing this opinion on ... a 1 week visit?  A hunch?  Tarot cards?  Tea leaves?

EU Agency for Fundamental Human Right compares the incidents of anti-semitism in these countries as:

Austria - 37

France - 450

Germany - 1300

Sweden - 80

UK - 330

 

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These data show that recorded antisemitic offences generally consist of verbal expressions or damage to property and tend not to target individual persons or organisations

So let's see what makes up the 37 incidences in that year.

Verbal expressions (including on the internet) or damage to property: 35

Against an individual person or an organisation:  2

 

Stop the fucking presses

 

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But, whatever, it's paradise, I'm making up the strain of nazi sympathy that Austrians themselves acknowledge, whatever.

What I don't understand is why we find it so easy to believe that there's a material amount of shitheels in a "foreign" society (the islamic world, and their islamofascists and terrorist sympathizers), but we steadfastly refuse to acknowledge a material amount of shitheels in a western nation?  Why do we fight so hard to deny that they exist, and in some places, their numbers are significant enough to be problematic?

You've shown over and over again, that you want to paint a grimmer picture than is reality, to satisfy whatever masochistic self-flagellating perversity  that gets you off.

[Hate 20146]

Yeah, to come back to this -- the point being rebutted was that Vienna is a great city.
I enjoyed visiting, some beautiful stuff there.....but Vienna (and even moreso, the rest of Austria) still ain't the most hospitable place to be jewish.  There remains an uncomfortably strong thread of nazi-sympathy/anti-semitism running through their society.  No, it's not a Nazi country.  But it's not the friendliest environment for a jewish person.  If I was jewish, I wouldn't be super comfortable living there.
But, whatever, it's paradise, I'm making up the strain of nazi sympathy that Austrians themselves acknowledge, whatever.
What I don't understand is why we find it so easy to believe that there's a material amount of shitheels in a "foreign" society (the islamic world, and their islamofascists and terrorist sympathizers), but we steadfastly refuse to acknowledge a material amount of shitheels in a western nation?  Why do we fight so hard to deny that they exist, and in some places, their numbers are significant enough to be problematic?

When an actual Nazi shoots up some Jewish people, by all means post about Nazism. When a radical Muslim shoots up Jewish people, the discussion should be radical Muslims shooting up Jewish people, not Nazism.

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5 minutes ago, Hate said:

When an actual Nazi shoots up some Jewish people, by all means post about Nazism. When a radical Muslim shoots up Jewish people, the discussion should be radical Muslims shooting up Jewish people, not Nazism.

And actually, it's not known whether a single Jewish person was hurt, or even attacked. 

The shooting initiated NEAR a synagogue, and was aimed at people on patios of bars and restaurants.  It continued indiscriminately at bystanders at nearby locations (including party zone Schwedenplatz).  No shooting inside a synagogue or at Jews at all

[Hate 20146]

And that’s correct. I haven’t seen much about the victims up to this point. To be fair, I haven’t really searched that much. I assume we would know a lot more had actual Nazis done the shooting.

[Herbie Hancock 7376]

Change his name to TheBloviatingBrisket. Any money left in the wreath fund to make that happen?