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I don’t know who is leading this party, but Schumer needs to go.

Chanting “we will win” to cameras along side a near 90 year old Maxine Waters is the Dems problem. That does absolutely nothing and its infuriating.

 

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51 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I don’t know who is leading this party, but Schumer needs to go.

Chanting “we will win” to cameras along side a near 90 year old Maxine Waters is the Dems problem. That does absolutely nothing and its infuriating.

 

I understand they lack political power right now but absolutely agree with you.

They should be at the steps at not one but every federal agency getting cameras and smartphones focused on them, shouting about the security of Americans personal data and the unchecked actions of a man no one voted for. Fuck it, they should get out on TikTok and start accusing Elon of stealing people's tax refunds and having sex with his little college goons because it can't be proven wrong and will spread like wildfire.

They should constantly be referring to Elon as President Musk to antagonize the child in office and drive a wedge between them. They should be flooding the White House every day with requests to schedule a meeting with President Musk.

They should be going out all over the country and highlighting the sick kids and seniors who can no longer afford medication because of Trump's rollback of Medicare/Medicaid drug pricing caps. They should be highlighting important infrastructure projects, health initiatives, etc. that are now derailed due to federal reviews. Companies that stand to be devastated by tarrifs. They should be drawing attention to the shocking draining of a reservoir in CA that is going to turbofuck agriculture in the summer. All the things that touch people's lives.

And they should be suing the everloving shit out of the Trump administration. I know this doesn't really matter because they're clearly not going to listen to the courts but it's important to fight on that front. Make them go through discovery and depositions and get everything on the record. Make GOP judges support this.

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1 hour ago, Pancho said:

I don’t know who is leading this party, but Schumer needs to go.

Chanting “we will win” to cameras along side a near 90 year old Maxine Waters is the Dems problem. That does absolutely nothing and its infuriating.

 

"[W]e desperately need our Lech Walesa to step forward and we need that to happen quickly. We do not have the time or luxury for the old politics."

From a non-Surly UT Alum.

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On 2/5/2025 at 10:41 PM, StassneyHorn said:

Embrace white men. Embrace white men who are successful. Embrace white men who are successful and vote consistently.

I think we should have a full open primary and let the voters decide. They have chosen white men in the past. 

The anointing of the nominee is a bad idea. Both Bill Clinton and Obama won the nomination as underdogs.

Right now I am more concerned that we have elections like in the good old days, but I hope that turns out to just be paranoia.

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You're right, the Democratic party should never be criticized even when they fail spectacularly, even when they have learned nothing from that failure, and even when they're showing no signs of life.

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57 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

 

 

25 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

It's telling that with everything going on, your hottest anger is still reserved for the Democratic Party. 

This is more for @chainsaw, but as an avid consumer of center left media I can tell you the Dems are running all kinds of ideas out there but nothing is getting traction besides Biden fucked us.  
 

Maybe they are better off as a lifestyle/culture brand with political leanings.  That’s basically what MAGA is.  
 

I do think it’s interesting that a lot of Dem office holders are going to great pains to say “look at how heterodox my views are!”

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1 minute ago, LCHorn said:

but nothing is getting traction

If the Dems aren't running the exact playbook the GOP ran against Obama, they are worthless.

What's that playbook?  Stall every fucking thing, use every lever of power imaginable. Less talk and more action. Remember how Tommy Tuberville interfered with Biden's military appointments? If they're not doing that, they should have already resigned yesterday as far as I'm concerned.

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3 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Remember how Tommy Tuberville interfered with Biden's military appointments?

They can’t do that shit, they are institutionalists.  Don’t you want them to stand for something besides externalizing your frustration?

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If they're unwilling to meet the moment, they should be replaced. These excuses completely undermine everything they tried to say at the DNC about how they're the opposite of Trump. Opposition parties are not supposed to play patty cake with the fucking fascists. Give them zero cooperation.

And by the way, the institutions are dead.

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Now's the time to push the party and they needed a huge fucking push until basically this week (and many of them still do). There's good reason for a lot of Dem voters to be pissed at the apparent apathy from Dem leadership and many other Dem officials.  But there's an additional problem that even when they're getting better the mainstream media basically has a blackout on covering anything they're saying and doing at the moment. A Democratic tea party is needed though and might provide the added benefit of forcing the media to lift their blackout. 

David Sirota can eat a bag of dicks, though. Fuck that guy.

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4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Now's the time to push the party and they needed a huge fucking push until basically this week (and many of them still do). There's good reason for a lot of Dem voters to be pissed at the apparent apathy from Dem leadership and many other Dem officials.  But there's an additional problem that even when they're getting better the mainstream media basically has a blackout on covering anything they're saying and doing at the moment. A Democratic tea party is needed though and might provide the added benefit of forcing the media to lift their blackout. 

David Sirota can eat a bag of dicks, though. Fuck that guy.

He's weird and I hate him too (even more than I hate Stephen A Smith) but he's not wrong in his assessment of the party as a lifestyle brand.

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1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

Give them zero cooperation.

I think the Dems are a little paralyzed but also following the apocryphal Napoleon quote "when your enemy is making a false move, don't interrupt him."  You'll see them get more coverage once there's more discontent amongst the middle and middle-right. 

5 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

A Democratic tea party is needed though and might provide the added benefit of forcing the media to lift their blackout.

You've already got the Bernie Sanders folks and they are the fun police. 

I like your idea that it needs to come from the bottom up, though.  The DNC and elites in the party are totally ignored by the huge swath of young people who don't consume legacy media. 

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It's only a false move if you think they're playing chess with you.

Project 2025 is a playbook for authoritarianism, which is taking us somewhere from which no amount of viral clapbacks and voter outreach can return us.

The enemy is not making a mistake because they no longer will be accountable to the voters.

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22 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

I think the Dems are a little paralyzed but also following the apocryphal Napoleon quote "when your enemy is making a false move, don't interrupt him." 

Sure, Dems can keep telling themselves this is what they're doing. And they'll keep losing. 

This shit is professional wrestling and any officials at this point who don't get that need to be replaced.

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1 hour ago, chainsaw said:

You're right, the Democratic party should never be criticized even when they fail spectacularly, even when they have learned nothing from that failure, and even when they're showing no signs of life.

I didn't say that at all. What I said is that in all the threads on this board, and with everything going on, you consistently bring your furor here and blame the democrats. The democrats didn't rot America's brains, the democrats didn't fund a 40 year war on education, they didn't invent social media and then cowtow to Oligarchs in the name of power. They basically behaved like normal politicians. They can be guilty of being feckless, obtuse, and worthless and still not crack my top 20 blame list of how we're in the sutaiton we curreently find ourselves. You, CLEARLY, disagree. 

THE DEMOCRATS DIDN'T DO ENOUGH TO SAVE US FROM OURSELVES bullshit rings beyond hollow to me. 

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42 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

you consistently bring your furor here and blame the democrats.

I'm pretty consistent about shitting on Trump and Elon, and calling a party that's been asleep at the wheel a lifestyle brand is far from my "hottest anger."

I will disagree on the kowtowing to oligarchs. Both parties are guilty of that.

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2 hours ago, LCHorn said:

I think the Dems are a little paralyzed but also following the apocryphal Napoleon quote "when your enemy is making a false move, don't interrupt him."  You'll see them get more coverage once there's more discontent amongst the middle and middle-right. 

This would be great advice if only Magats were suffering from these decisions. If Trump was walking around punching himself in the balls, I would happily sit back and say, "Keep punching yourself in the balls". But this is not the time to sit back and let TFG make mistakes because we are all sufffering!



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