Oregon just decriminalized cocaine, heroine, LSD, and Oxycodone...

[Bernard 879]

...in recreational amounts. 
 

Holy shit. Bravo, Oregon!!!! HUGE step in the right direction. Treat substance abuse like the health problem it is rather than turning everyday people into criminals.

Apparently a recreational amount of coke is under 2 grams. So split your 8ball in two and make your friend carry half.

Bernard

https://www.opb.org/article/2020/11/04/oregon-measure-110-decriminalize-drugs/

[workswithseed 2,112]

13 minutes ago, Bernard said:

...in recreational amounts. 
 

Holy shit. Bravo, Oregon!!!! HUGE step in the right direction. Treat substance abuse like the health problem it is rather than turning everyday people into criminals.

Apparently a recreational amount of coke is under 2 grams. So split your 8ball in two and make your friend carry half.

Bernard

https://www.opb.org/article/2020/11/04/oregon-measure-110-decriminalize-drugs/

Looks like I'll have a new cash flow, legally.

[RPM 26,324]

[52-80 19,185]

any flights to PDX open right now?

[texasjacket 289]

There is big money made on this war too by a lot in power at all levels on bot sides. I am not sure they will just roll over and allow this to erode away. 

Edited November 6, 2020 by texasjacket

[DigglerontheHoof 21,204]

surly road trip

[aggie08 21,505]

Oh sweet, it's legal now. Time to try heroin!

[Bigbend1812 12,927]

Looks like a lot of one way bus tickets to oregon for the homeless.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12,301]

1 hour ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

surly road trip

[Deej 76,839]

5 hours ago, Bernard said:

...in recreational amounts. 
 

Holy shit. Bravo, Oregon!!!! HUGE step in the right direction. Treat substance abuse like the health problem it is rather than turning everyday people into criminals.

Apparently a recreational amount of coke is under 2 grams. So split your 8ball in two and make your friend carry half.

Bernard

https://www.opb.org/article/2020/11/04/oregon-measure-110-decriminalize-drugs/

"Sorry bud, my scale says you have 2.01 grams. Off to jail."

[DaggerHorns 3,085]

15 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

[TwiceHorn 31,506]

This will be an interesting experiment at any rate.  It would be nice if a neighboring state had done it too.  The larger the area, the more valid the data would be for national consideration.

[Rip76 4,943]

1 hour ago, Bigbend1812 said:

Looks like a lot of one way bus tickets to oregon for the homeless.

Totally.  So this may help Austin.

[Bernard 879]

1 hour ago, Bigbend1812 said:

Looks like a lot of one way bus tickets to oregon for the homeless.

Dealer needs to start a frequent buyers club. Get enough stamps on your card and you get a week free at the flop house. 🙂

Bernard

[hullabelew 3,724]

It has worked well in Portugal.  Homeless, ODs, crime rates, all down.  As long as the government does as promised (pfft) and funnels that money into treatment, hopefully it will work.  What we do now is bullshit and isn't working.  Almost everyone in jail is there, in part, to drugs.  Once they go in, the cycle continues and just gets worse.  

[Bevo 13,579]

The funny thing is, doctors are still probably going to be required to take plenty of CE on the stuff. Fucking bureaucracies and rules that make no sense. A doctor can probably lose his license in Oregon for over prescribing so he refers out patients in pain: Meanwhile, that same patient can get the stuff from a store without a doctor getting involved. And yes, I am projecting into the near future. At the very least doctors in Redding and Olympia, will just tell their patients to cross the border.

[tbone_ 14,131]

It has worked well in Portugal.  Homeless, ODs, crime rates, all down.  As long as the government does as promised (pfft) and funnels that money into treatment, hopefully it will work.  What we do now is bullshit and isn't working.  Almost everyone in jail is there, in part, to drugs.  Once they go in, the cycle continues and just gets worse.  

That’s way too logical for our shit show of a society.

[staboner 4,984]

6 hours ago, hullabelew said:

It has worked well in Portugal.  Homeless, ODs, crime rates, all down.  As long as the government does as promised (pfft) and funnels that money into treatment, hopefully it will work.  What we do now is bullshit and isn't working.  Almost everyone in jail is there, in part, to drugs.  Once they go in, the cycle continues and just gets worse.  

exactly right. its the larger effort across all elements of government and society that actually cares about other people. 

its a great move and happy to see it - but given the "cares about other people" part I do think it will be an incomplete effort anywhere in the US

[Anastasis 23,477]

14 hours ago, workswithseed said:

Looks like I'll have a new cash flow, legally.

Do you know how to make LSD?  Cause IIRC the guy running the major lab got popped a good number of years ago and a substantial amount of the US supply was impacted.  Went to high school with a guy who was pretty dead set on synthesizing the stuff.  Last I saw he was a PhD chemist in academia.  Probably got a one way ticket to university of Oregon right about now.  That meth shit is pretty low brow stuff to cook up from what I understand, takes most sophistication to pull off a few of the steps involved with LSD.  

[workswithseed 2,112]

6 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Do you know how to make LSD?  Cause IIRC the guy running the major lab got popped a good number of years ago and a substantial amount of the US supply was impacted.  Went to high school with a guy who was pretty dead set on synthesizing the stuff.  Last I saw he was a PhD chemist in academia.  Probably got a one way ticket to university of Oregon right about now.  That meth shit is pretty low brow stuff to cook up from what I understand, takes most sophistication to pull off a few of the steps involved with LSD.  

You know, this is a question I never thought I would be asked, but I figured I'd look what would go into it. That looks like a very dangerous process, and I definitely don't have the know how. Is your friend looking to train? Ha

[Degenerate Gardner 4,085]

10 hours ago, Bigbend1812 said:

Looks like a lot of one way bus tickets to oregon for the homeless.

And the soon to be homeless.

[Armybrat 40,851]

10 hours ago, Deej said:

"Sorry bud, my scale says you have 2.01 grams. Off to jail."

 

[demos 3,004]

We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a saltshaker half-full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... Also, a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether, and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can.

[Bevo 13,579]

38 minutes ago, demos said:

We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a saltshaker half-full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... Also, a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether, and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can.

Hunter?

[Homercles 10,206]

2 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Hunter?

When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro

[WhatTheBuck 28,788]

17 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Oh sweet, it's legal now. Time to try heroin!

I've never done heroin. I would never do heroin. I would never recommend that anyone else should ever try heroin. But it sure hasn't hurt my record collection. 

(Credit to Bill Maher for that one.)

[Napoleon 8,690]

21 hours ago, Bigbend1812 said:

Looks like a lot of one way bus tickets to oregon for the homeless.

 

19 hours ago, Rip76 said:

Totally.  So this may help Austin.

I have a friend who lives in Ventura, CA and they don't allow weed/THC/CBD products to be sold in stores in that county.

There is already enough of a homeless/vagrant population as it is with the nice weather and the former huge military presence next door in Oxnard, so I don't know if this is going to help the large homeless drag rats/ gutter kids population in Oregon.
 

 

19 hours ago, hullabelew said:

It has worked well in Portugal.  Homeless, ODs, crime rates, all down.  As long as the government does as promised (pfft) and funnels that money into treatment, hopefully it will work.  What we do now is bullshit and isn't working.  Almost everyone in jail is there, in part, to drugs.  Once they go in, the cycle continues and just gets worse.  

I know quite a few people from my time in Buenos Aires who have moved onto Lisbon. The requirements to get a renters visa there are really low.

I didn't know about the legalization status there, but looking at who's moved there, that doesn't surprise me that Portugal has become a hot place.

[OregonHorn 96]

We also had another ballot measure pass that legalizes psilocybin for therapeutic purposes.  I voted for both.

 

Opium poppies grow well here.  Making raw opium is very easy.

[DaggerHorns 3,085]

40 minutes ago, OregonHorn said:

Opium poppies grow well here.  Making raw opium is very easy.

Tell me more, a lot more.

[OregonHorn 96]

When the seed pods of papaver somniferum are maturing, make shallow cuts vertically on the pods.  By the next day, the latex containing the alkaloids oozes out.  Scrape it off with a razor, put a bit on a bowl of weed, and fire it up.  It's very relaxing and produces some trippy dreams.

 

I have a friend who keeps a coca plant as a houseplant.  She makes tea from the leaves.  It's a fun little buzz for about a half hour, but when it wears off, I get ridiculously hungry.

[XYZ 2,154]

Y’all now have black vans parked in front of your houses, probably.

[DaggerHorns 3,085]

5 hours ago, XYZ said:

Y’all now have black vans parked in front of your houses, probably.

You’re right about that except it’s in my driveway and it says “Free Candy” on the side.

[Newdoc 3,448]

22 hours ago, staboner said:

its a great move and happy to see it - but given the "cares about other people" part I do think it will be an incomplete effort anywhere in the US

I cannot eecall in the history of our republic has either side shown the wherewithal to actually make mental health and addiction medicine a sustained priority. I will not be surprised if our elected officials manage to screw this up.

[TwiceHorn 31,506]

14 minutes ago, Newdoc said:

I cannot eecall in the history of our republic has either side shown the wherewithal to actually make mental health and addiction medicine a sustained priority. I will not be surprised if our elected officials manage to screw this up.

Well of course they will.  But they are relatively new fields.

[atomheartbevo 89,735]

This is an interesting map

[NorthLoop 14,216]

Good job, Texas. You're now less progressive than Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, and Oklahoma. 

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

6 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

Good job, Texas. You're now less progressive than Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, and Oklahoma. 

Sounds about right

[TwiceHorn 31,506]

I don't follow it closely, but I'd bet AR and MS hoped to revive agriculture by legalizing.

[Radical Larry 28,647]

George knew it would be a good cash crop for the southern states, man.

[Armybrat 40,851]

[Incredulity 11,675]

42 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I don't follow it closely, but I'd bet AR and MS hoped to revive agriculture by legalizing.

Look into the boom/bust cycle of Oregon’s recreational weed growers.

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

It’s going to be interesting. Shit should go well in Oregon and it should be a big step for our countrys mentality concerning drugs. Not so great for Utah tho. 

ive never understood hardline conservatives being so for the drug war. The science is clear on how to reduce drug use and pouring billions into state pseudo-military who shares both functions of enforcing ordinances as well as generating profit from their duties is not it. 
 

[Enchubben 5,510]

What is it $100/day to put someone in jail?

Cost of one way ticket on greyhound is like $250 a person?  Instead of arresting for heroin, meth, etc, just put em on the bus to Portland with $100 cash. 

Problem solved in every major city in Texas.

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

7 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

What is it $100/day to put someone in jail?

Cost of one way ticket on greyhound is like $250 a person?  Instead of arresting for heroin, meth, etc, just put em on the bus to Portland with $100 cash. 

Problem solved in every major city in Texas.

You know how much of that $100 gets spent on prisoners? Like $20. The rest goes to private companies.

so, yes there would be plenty of people crying bloody murder if we did that here

[Enchubben 5,510]

1 hour ago, Doc Reeves said:

You know how much of that $100 gets spent on prisoners? Like $20. The rest goes to private companies.

so, yes there would be plenty of people crying bloody murder if we did that here

I’m sure the general public will be outraged with crippling the industry that makes money off of keeping people in cages.

[XYZ 2,154]

9 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

I’m sure the general public will be outraged with crippling the industry that makes money off of keeping people in cages.

That’s not how it works. General public doesn’t factor in.

[NeverMarryAStripper 21,907]

It’s going to be interesting. Shit should go well in Oregon and it should be a big step for our countrys mentality concerning drugs. Not so great for Utah tho. 

ive never understood hardline conservatives being so for the drug war. The science is clear on how to reduce drug use and pouring billions into state pseudo-military who shares both functions of enforcing ordinances as well as generating profit from their duties is not it. 
 

Hard line conservatives preach small government, but really want a government with the power to try and control what the population does and keeps the minorities in line. The war on drugs gives them both while lining the pockets of the appropriate people.

[Willfully Horn 8,036]

I know heroine is sometimes confused with heroin, but Surly be slipping.

[Onboard 2.0 9,083]

40 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

I know heroine is sometimes confused with heroin, but Surly be slipping.

Either way, she's a cruel mistress.

[TwiceHorn 31,506]

43 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

I know heroine is sometimes confused with heroin, but Surly be slipping.

She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie . . . .