the trump election lawsuit thread of dominance

[Bozo_Casanova 26,188]

16 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

That upper Midwest accent is like nails on a chalk board. 

Or like nails on your back. It’s all about context. 

[RDCanecutter 26,198]

3 hours ago, HenryJames said:

"Every Georgia conservative who cares about America"

something something that saying about assuming.

Imo go out on a limb and say that Georgia Conservatives care about America about as much as Mexican politicians care about Mexico, I mean, you don't want to break the ATM, but when you kick it *just so*, it spits out a free hundred bucks.

['stache 21,730]

So can Newt finally be written off as deep state so he can just shut up forever?

[henrygandorf 29,169]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Probably an insult to Jim Adler.  I imagine his pleadings and court papers are much better than Sydney's.

we’re setting the bar low this morning, i see. 

[Biff Tannen 45,439]

25 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Or like nails on your back. It’s all about context. 

[Sbbruin 21,690]

12 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

 

That's the same twat that was barking at the moon about the food vans.  They were half full!!!

She's not all there.

She's also either bipolar or a crackhead.  Compare demeanors.

- Did you see the trucks being unloaded?

- No, we weren't allowed over there, but the trucks weren't big enough to hold the amount of food necessary to feed everyone, therefor, ipso facto, they were full of illegal ballots.  Any fool can see that.

And Lou Dobbs sits there with a straight face like- boom!  we got em now!

[Biff Tannen 45,439]

Yeah, this guy, who most people admit is just a full on asshole to everyone, didn't get as many votes as the other guy.  That just don't make no sense.  It MUST be a deep state conspiracy because I know in all other elections, people LOVE voting for assholes!  That's been a presidential campaign strategy forever!  Be a huge dick to everyone and you get elected! 

[Michael Knight 12,853]

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13,049]

17 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

we’re setting the bar low this morning, i see. 

It gets better! North Korea is trending on twitter because Roger Stone said that North Korea shipped ballots through a harbor in Maine. Twitter pundits are having fun with it. I seriously want to know, what is his angle because with Roger there is always an angle.

Twitter is having some issues apparently, so I'm not doing an embed. Best one was that it was a Trump parade boat....

[AnTiM 1,649]

5 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

 

Obviously a brain leak, like the brown stains running down his cheeks last week.

Edited December 3, 2020 by AnTiM

[Mrs Whiggins 13,049]

17 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

we’re setting the bar low this morning, i see. 

It gets better! North Korea is trending on twitter because Roger Stone said that North Korea shipped ballots through a harbor in Maine. Twitter pundits are having fun with it. I seriously want to know, what is his angle because with Roger there is always an angle.

Twitter is having some issues apparently, so I'm not doing an embed. Best one was that it was a Trump parade boat....

[atomheartbevo 89,304]

10 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

Ohh we got trouble in paradise!

The Trump campaign Twitter posted this tonight -

And the lunatics are now confused on top of being evil and insane.

It's hilarious that they are bitching that the Democrats know how to fight, while the Republicans don't, since, from my perspective, it's the exact opposite.

[Gil Bang 25,843]

 

[Kyrie Eleison 9,312]

i swear to god that title in the style of the motion reads exactly as if a first semester 1L wrote it in their legal writing class...OR a lifetime transactional whose entire career has been spent in a broom closet so that no actual client has the misfortune of running into the trogladyte who has never once stepped inside a courtroom.

[Neonmoon 38,127]

 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,388]

13 minutes ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

i swear to god that title in the style of the motion reads exactly as if a first semester 1L wrote it in their legal writing class...OR a lifetime transactional whose entire career has been spent in a broom closet so that no actual client has the misfortune of running into the trogladyte who has never once stepped inside a courtroom.

Isn't it most likely an inexperienced lawyer churning out the filings? I'm picturing an over-worker, inexperienced lawyer being yelled at by Powell every night for making mistakes.

Edited December 3, 2020 by Nice Guy Eddie

[Neonmoon 38,127]

 

[atomheartbevo 89,304]

41 losses now?

[Pato del Muerto 52,239]

6 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

41 losses now?

1-George HW Bush. 
 

we can only do this style of count for a few more losses though. 

[SquishMitten 10,381]

21 minutes ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

i swear to god that title in the style of the motion reads exactly as if a first semester 1L wrote it in their legal writing class...OR a lifetime transactional whose entire career has been spent in a broom closet so that no actual client has the misfortune of running into the trogladyte who has never once stepped inside a courtroom.

Of all the things to criticize, that's pretty low on the totem pole. After reading this, I'm concerned about how my shit is titled. I don't ever write those myself, and when I review what my paralegal/associate attorneys write, I think I probably skip to the body.

[Fastbreak 3,935]

41 losses now?

The Trumpers are trusting the process. Next years draft has some great talent at the top with Hitler, Pol Pot and Idi Amin as strong candidates to be the Pubs #1 draft pick.

[Kyrie Eleison 9,312]

3 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

Of all the things to criticize, that's pretty low on the totem pole. After reading this, I'm concerned about how my shit is titled. I don't ever write those myself, and when I review what my paralegal/associate attorneys write, I think I probably skip to the body.

for me personally, if one doesn't get the style correct/title correct, it's usually...not always, but usually...pretty indicative what's in the body in terms of whether they understand the issue to be and what they're asking the court to remedy.

[TwiceHorn 31,087]

24 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Isn't it most likely an inexperienced lawyer churning out the filings? I'm picturing an over-worker, inexperienced lawyer being yelled at by Powell every night for making mistakes.

Yes.  Highly likely.  On the one hand, slapping all this shit together (104-page complaints, 30 exhibits including affidavits) is a non-trivial endeavor.  It's not rocket surgery, either, but experience helps.  And God knows they took their time in putting it together.

This could be being done mostly by paralegals, or by the Haller woman, who seems to be low on the totem pole.  She's a 20 something year lawyer, but much of it in the type government work that is not likely to be highly involved in the active practice of litigation.

Also, she rarely lasts more than three years at a stint, which might well be indicative of someone who just doesn't cut the mustard.  That has been my experience.

Edited December 3, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[TwiceHorn 31,087]

Also, too bad John Shabaz is no longer (alive) a judge on the E.D. Wis.  He would sanction the shit out of this.

[Beau Vine 53,866]

https://www.facebook.com/1hAtHack

You know you want to stick your dick in that.

[Sbbruin 21,690]

^^

[Brisketexan 104,238]

Yep, zero crazy there at all.

[TwiceHorn 31,087]

This is some real looney toons shit, here. https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/11/Mueller_Emerg-Pet-for-OA.pdf

According to this petition, because Wisconsin election law does not expressly provide for ballot dropboxes (nor does it forbid them), they are unlawful and the result of a deep state conspiracy by CISA (which it admits was created by Trump in 2018) and other, non-partisan organizations to fuck with elections.

The plaintiff is the husband of the attorney filing, on behalf of the "Amos Center for Justice and Liberty," which seems to have been founded for this express purpose.  They are accepting donations!

[kevwun 15,572]

What's it called when someone files so many frivolous lawsuits that they're ability to file new ones is restricted?  Is it possible to have that happen to the Trump campaign?

[Kyrie Eleison 9,312]

13 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

https://www.facebook.com/1hAtHack

You know you want to stick your dick in that.

[TwiceHorn 31,087]

1 minute ago, kevwun said:

What's it called when someone files so many frivolous lawsuits that they're ability to file new ones is restricted?  Is it possible to have that happen to the Trump campaign?

Vexatious litigant.

Some of these judges are going to have to sack up and start declaring these lawsuits frivolous.  It's more likely now, because a lot of the standing and substantive issues have been resolved against the filers.  It is becoming frivolous to repeat the same arguments over and over.

Anyway, these are going to have to be declared frivolous and filed by either the same party or the same attorneys for there to be a vexatious litgant finding.

[kevwun 15,572]

So there's no way to stop this nonsense as long as they keep having new crazy lawyers file the suits on behalf of newly founded PAC's and organizations?  Sidney Powell getting shutdown is about the best we can hope for?

Edited December 3, 2020 by kevwun

[TtomTerrific 200]

Or actually listening to the litigants.

Soon.

[Dahobbs 17,408]

1 minute ago, TtomTerrific said:

Or actually listening to the litigants.

Soon.

Lol. Idiot. 

[kevwun 15,572]

It's hard for a blank filing to make it to the Supreme Court.

[Pato del Muerto 52,239]

Hey tommy crawled out of the bottle for a hot minute!

[Biff Tannen 45,439]

5 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Lol. Idiot. 

Is this their last gasp?  SCOTUS gonna save them...somehow?

[TwiceHorn 31,087]

2 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

- Did you see the trucks being unloaded?

- No, we weren't allowed over there, but the trucks weren't big enough to hold the amount of food necessary to feed everyone, therefor, ipso facto, they were full of illegal ballots.  Any fool can see that.

And Lou Dobbs sits there with a straight face like- boom!  we got em now!

Also check this out, which seems to precede all her public appearances.

She was a paper jam contractor hired by Dominion.  Knows next to nothing about polling or the actual machine operation.

Also note the difference in demeanor between this, Dobbs, and the Michigan Senate.

She's either on drugs or pretty bipolar.

Also super inconsistent about 6AM to 6AM or 6AM to 430AM.

[TwiceHorn 31,087]

14 minutes ago, kevwun said:

So there's no way to stop this nonsense as long as they keep having new crazy lawyers file the suits on behalf of newly founded PAC's and organizations?  Sidney Powell getting shutdown is about the best we can hope for?

Well, the first step is to have some suits, more than a couple, being called frivolous.

Then, there is going to have to be established beyond speculation that the same group of people is behind the suits, regardless of the named plaintiffs.  That entity would become the vexatious litigant.

This is going to vary according to state law.  Texas requires that an individual plaintiff be found a vexatious litigant, not attorneys, and not some group of people.  http://www.txcourts.gov/judicial-data/vexatious-litigants.aspx  Texas' rules also apply only to pro se plaintiffs. https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/CP/htm/CP.11.htm#11.101

Edited December 3, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[Js1 85,006]

11 minutes ago, kevwun said:

It's hard for a blank filing to make it to the Supreme Court.

It can be whatever you, me, ACB, Gorsuch, Thomas, Kavanaugh and Alito want it to be!

[henrygandorf 29,169]

god i hope this goes to the supreme court.

that would be a really good ending to this season.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,667]

also, lulz at the supreme court will save us.  is it even possible to pretend you nominated a fair jurist of the highest intellect with expertise and deep understand of blah blah blah?  instead, you go straight to our supreme court is stacked with partisans that don't care about the law.

[aggie08 21,300]

Well, this will definitely give Stop the Steal folks some ammo for the next...forever.

Video presented in front of the Georgia State Senate appears to show ballots being pulled from underneath a table and counted after everyone else had gone home. I'm sure there's a non-sinister explanation, but not a great look.

 

[Gatorubet 30,023]

Or actually listening to the litigants.

Soon.

The ones who file suit with no allegations of fraud in the pleading - but alleging Q-Anon fraud tardishness in the nutter press conference after filing the suit admitting no fraud - those litigants?

[Gatorubet 30,023]

tapa dupe

[Red Five 40,574]

15 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

god i hope this goes to the supreme court.

that would be a really good ending to this season.

Series finale hopefully.

[Js1 85,006]

10 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Well, this will definitely give Stop the Steal folks some ammo for the next...forever.

Video presented in front of the Georgia State Senate appears to show ballots being pulled from underneath a table and counted after everyone else had gone home. I'm sure there's a non-sinister explanation, but not a great look.

 

And somehow wasn't found during a hand audit by the Republican SOS? 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,355]

 

[Pancho 44,186]

 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,388]

40 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Also check this out, which seems to precede all her public appearances.

She was a paper jam contractor hired by Dominion.  Knows next to nothing about polling or the actual machine operation.

Also note the difference in demeanor between this, Dobbs, and the Michigan Senate.

She's either on drugs or pretty bipolar.

Also super inconsistent about 6AM to 6AM or 6AM to 430AM.

I couldn't get through that but I strongly believe if she just doesn't understand how the process works. It doesn't sound like she was involved in much training since she was only trained to remove paper jams. And I'm not putting her down for taking a job to remove paper jams. It needs to be done and people need jobs. 

She's implying that a mail-in ballot would jam in the tabulator machine within a batch of ballots. Then the operator would re-scan the entire batch, and therefore the many of the ballots were double counted.  I suppose that could happen but I've also read that the number of ballots counted in a batch is matched at that time to the # of ballots in the batch. You need that to ensure that the machine didn't have 2 ballots stuck together.

And if what she says is correct in that some ballots were counted many times, this can be verified quickly. If she is right, that would mean Wayne County is sitting on something like 75K mail-in ballots but counted 125K.

Not to mention that all incoming mail in ballots envelopes have an unique bar code which is scanned. Wayne County just can't make up 50K votes (or whatever) without it being obvious. 

Edited December 3, 2020 by Nice Guy Eddie