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5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Pretty shocking, really, even in the context of the dogshit surrounding it (meaning the other dogshit lawsuits).

As someone who earlier today walked a multiply-dog-shitting dog, I can tell you that the quality drops off drastically at each repetition. I guess we've gone from Logs to Soft-Serve to Dribbles to Flecks of Earwax in Dirty Water.

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10 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

As someone who earlier today walked a multiply-dog-shitting dog, I can tell you that the quality drops off drastically at each repetition. I guess we've gone from Logs to Soft-Serve to Dribbles to Flecks of Earwax in Dirty Water.

Definitely the latter.  Spewed from the fundament at high velocity.

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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Whew.  That one doesn't  rely on questionable evidence (all the Kraken suits) or procedures (Paxton), but it makes a really borderline frivolous constitutional argument.  https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/12/Gohmert-v-Pence.pdf

Pretty shocking, really, even in the context of the dogshit surrounding it (meaning the other dogshit lawsuits).

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VP Pence has been sued by Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Tex.), Kelli Ward and other GOP mbrs in a far-fetched bid to overturn Biden's win

Plaintiffs ask Judge Jeremy Kernodle, a Trump-appt'd fed judge in Texas, to find that Pence is authorized to pick pro-Trump electors on Jan. 6

Could a lawyer explain to me how a lawsuit can be filed against an individual who has not yet performed a certain act, with the goal of getting a judge to tell that person they don't have to perform that certain act?  I did not think that was how lawsuits work...

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Could a lawyer explain to me how a lawsuit can be filed against an individual who has not yet performed a certain act, with the goal of getting a judge to tell that person they don't have to perform that certain act?  I did not think that was how lawsuits work...

Well, this is a "declaratory judgment," which sort of anticipates a dispute before it happens. The whole notion runs counter to the idea that American courts don't grant "advisory opinions" on unripe cases or before a concrete dispute or "case or controversy" has arisen. Usually, the dispute, or case or controversy has to be shown to be imminent, if not yet "declared." A classic case is patent infringement, where a patent holder has threatened the other with suit if they don't stop and the threatened party believes the patent is invalid.  The threatened party can commence a DJ to contest the validity of the patent without having to wait for the patent-holder to sue for infringement.  The threatened party will have to prove that the patent-holder was going to sue, though.

This probably pushes that notion to its limits and is thus not a valid declaratory judgment.

There are so many things wrong with that lawsuit that it's hard to know where to start.

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Yeah, that is the most farcical allegation of the suit. 

Arizona has sent one set of electors to the Archivist, as required by law.  The other set is illegitimate.

There is also a very disingenuous partial quotation of Bush v. Gore that suggests that a legislature, after choosing a popular vote to appoint electors, could crawfish post-election and appoint electors itself.  What Bush v. Gore says is that a legislature is free to stop using a vote to appoint electors by passing legislation to that effect prior to any such election.

This thing should be sanctioned.

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17 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah, that is the most farcical allegation of the suit. 

Arizona has sent one set of electors to the Archivist, as required by law.  The other set is illegitimate.

There is also a very disingenuous partial quotation of Bush v. Gore that suggests that a legislature, after choosing a popular vote to appoint electors, could crawfish post-election and appoint electors itself.  What Bush v. Gore says is that a legislature is free to stop using a vote to appoint electors by passing legislation to that effect prior to any such election.

This thing should be sanctioned.

This.

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3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Interdasting.  No Sidney Powell.  But others associated with her in Julia Haller and Howard Kleinhendler.  Haller has been previously listed as having Powell's office address, but not this time.  Also the mysterious Larry Joseph, who was lead counsel on Paxton's abomination.  The signing lead counsel is Wm. L. Sessions, son of the CIA Director and bro of Pete.

The plaintiffs, other than Louie the Tard, are all Arizona GOP types.  Louie apparently added to help venue the thing in the ED Tex., which has a lot of GOP judges.  It's funny, the Eastern District runs from Texarkana to Beaumont and includes Plano, Denton, Tyler, and Longview.  Historically, the judges came from the Gulf Coast and deeper East Texas and were of a decidedly liberal bent.  Now, appointees from Plano and the alt-right nawf and nawfeast Texas seem to dominate.

Oh. My. Fucking. God.

We did it.  We finally fucking did it.  I mean, it was only a matter of time with so many of these goddamned lawyers coming from Dallas.  But we finally reached one degree of separation between me and one of these frivolous Trump lawsuits.

Lewis Sessions and I used to work at the same firm.  And I'm almost certain that there's a lawsuit out there that has both our names on the signature block.

How proud I am.

By the way--fun fact: Lewis Sessions is the reason that lawyers at that firm are not allowed to have couches in their offices.

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17 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Oh. My. Fucking. God.

We did it.  We finally fucking did it.  I mean, it was only a matter of time with so many of these goddamned lawyers coming from Dallas.  But we finally reached one degree of separation between me and one of these frivolous Trump lawsuits.

Lewis Sessions and I used to work at the same firm.  And I'm almost certain that there's a lawsuit out there that has both our names on the signature block.

How proud I am.

By the way--fun fact: Lewis Sessions is the reason that lawyers at that firm are not allowed to have couches in their offices.

What do you need a couch for?  I thought it was common knowledge that secretaries prefer to be bent over the desk.

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33 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So filed in federal court in Texas on behalf of Arizona because of things that happened in Georgia and Michigan?

It's called venue shopping and they (Republicans) do this all the time to get favorable judges/rulings. 

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53 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

By the way--fun fact: Lewis Sessions is the reason that lawyers at that firm are not allowed to have couches in their offices.

Being that we are on surly, is this supposed to be a point for or against Lewis Sessions? 

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12 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I wouldn't put it past Rudy and the Q lawyer to have arranged her hire.  But I don't dabble in conspiracy theories that I just made up in my head.

You're one "People are saying..." away from becoming an iron-clad, indisputable alternate fact.

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This is the one Trump thread I can’t wait to follow in the new year. Seeing the pendulum swing from “Fraud we winz!” through “Evidence? We need evidence?” in 2020, to be followed with the swing through “Who knew you couldn’t overtly subvert democracy AND keep your bar card?” in 2021, is just going to be great entertainment.

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