the trump election lawsuit thread of dominance

[Ted Lange 16,143]

5 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

 I don’t think it’s only grift at this point.

Its not.   It's so they have a reason to block any and everything.   It is gonna be like 4 years of Merrick Garland

[Buzzrock 14,941]

My hope, and I think this has so far been a theme to their plotting, is that the Republicans want to do enough to satiate the huge chunk of idiots that follow Trump without actually overturning the valid results. 
they are treating this like any political issue, having discussions on which reps and senators are safe and which need cover, how many can go in one direction for that cover without jeopardizing their seat, etc. it’s a game to get right up to the edge without going over. “We tried our best, we did all we could.  Please keep voting for us.”
dangerous, dangerous game, and the stakes are the surviva of our country. 

I’m frequently reminded of a scene in Yellowstone where the sexy Governor tells Jamie that campaigning is not the same as governing. In a campaign, getting elected is all that matters.

[Buzzrock 14,941]

Trump isn’t gonna be the Perot in 24, it’ll be an actual Republican who runs as an Independent after Trump waltzes to another GOP nomination.  Only way that doesn’t happen is if Trump is dead or in jail (maybe).

I disagree only because Washington hates outsiders and they’re gonna circle the wagons once Trump is out of office. They don’t want this again.

I do think it’s entirely possible he won’t live that long.

[Brisketexan 105,336]

I’m beginning to agree

You fucking think?

[956 Worldwide 34,770]

8 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Its not.   It's so they have a reason to block any and everything.   It is gonna be like 4 years of Merrick Garland

They are going too far with the brinksmanship.  How do they tell him “no”, now? What happens when he says “I am doing my inauguration on January 20 regardless.” How do you pivot to accepting an election once you go on record in the House and Senate as saying it is “stolen” or “fraudulent.”

”We support the right for him to take concerns to the court.”

”The courts didn’t give him a fair shake, so now we will object in the legislature.”

“The corrupt Dems subverted the lawful legislative process, but it’s clear who won the election. Now we must stand for freedom and against socialism and with the true elected President, Donald J. Trump.”

Edited January 5, 2021 by 956 Worldwide

[jimmyjazz 46,130]

15 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

If trump is dead or in jail, Don, Jr. or Ivanka will run.  

I'm still naive enough to think "no way would either of those nitwits even win the primary", and then I remember their nitwit dad not only won the primary but the Presidency.  Then I quietly weep.

[RDCanecutter 26,473]

17 hours ago, Bullneck said:

I think Trump should be shot by firing squad after a fair trial and all, BUT I've been thinking:

306 EC votes for Biden

-16 Georgia EC votes

290 EC votes for Biden

 

That's 20 more than he needs to win.  Nothing changes, right?  What's the angle?

He's gotta be hammering them all, and Raffensperger was the first to say "fuck it." Trump is probably hammering states he won, demanding they produce more Electoral votes.

[RDCanecutter 26,473]

17 hours ago, hookem2010 said:

I tried not to talk to my fellow Wise county residents any more than necessary during my 16-month sentence to that wasteland, but what summed up the community best was a church sign posted in October that read "The rapture is coming. Get right or get left".

Reminds me of some Church of Christ folk who go on about how only CoC people will be in heaven. Makes it remarkably easy to consider alternative destinies.

[Js1 85,574]

Sounds like the traitors decided their plan is only to challenge 3 states:

Cruz will challenge Arizona

Hawley will challenge Pennsylvania

Loeffler will challenge Georgia

Cruz said he will not challenge any other states.  Ron Johnson will probably challenge Wisconsin. 

[Guest Lobo]

Hmmmmm, so Trump & Co. continue to berate the Georgia election officials about an election that occurred 9 weeks ago even though there are two "tremendous" elections being held today.  Gee, I can't help but wonder if the two challengers were to win, or even just one of them...that Trump would attempt to cast doubt on them by saying that the SoS/Governor/et. al. can't possibly secure a fair and free election because they are still so wildly focused on me, our illegally released phone calls, the Congressional certification tomorrow, etc.  

His moves are so obviously desperate.  Almost makes you feel like he's dying. 

[Buzzrock 14,941]

I'm still naive enough to think "no way would either of those nitwits even win the primary", and then I remember their nitwit dad not only won the primary but the Presidency.  Then I quietly weep.

Neither of them have the game their dad has. Trump is a phenom. His kids trying to do his act would come off really hollow.

[jimmyjazz 46,130]

Just now, Buzzrock said:

Neither of them have the game their dad has. Trump is a phenom. His kids trying to do his act would come off really hollow.

You're coming at it from the perspective of someone who saw through Donald's act.  Now consider how astute the average Trump voter really is.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,224]

6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Sounds like the traitors decided their plan is only to challenge 3 states:

Cruz will challenge Arizona

Hawley will challenge Pennsylvania

Loeffler will challenge Georgia

Cruz said he will not challenge any other states.  Ron Johnson will probably challenge Wisconsin. 

Which one of these fine patriots and guardian of secure elections is going to challenge North Carolina?  You know, the state that was about as close as PA?

[Buzzrock 14,941]

It’s now news that a Republican will confirm a lawfully elected president

[Buzzrock 14,941]

You're coming at it from the perspective of someone who saw through Donald's act.  Now consider how astute the average Trump voter really is.

I’m not sure but you might be making my point for me.

[RDCanecutter 26,473]

38 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Trump isn’t gonna be the Perot in 24, it’ll be an actual Republican who runs as an Independent after Trump waltzes to another GOP nomination.  Only way that doesn’t happen is if Trump is dead or in jail (maybe).

All of this is predictable, which means Trump won't do it. I think he chooses a new path-- as the anti-Carter. He travels the world on his own, visiting the distressed and needy, and does all he can to make things worse.

[Eskimohorn 5,642]

Neither of them have the game their dad has. Trump is a phenom. His kids trying to do his act would come off really hollow.

They dont have the chops at this point (believing the lies and bulldozing past people). With that being said, Ivanka could be a phenom because of her name and looks. Jared is a liability because he’s done more than tax fraud. Jr and crazy lady could be a power couple, but I’m not sure they have the stamina.

All of them, even Eric, could cherrypick a congressional district and gravy train.

While they seem to be all destined for jailtime, that actually might help their rep. Because the GOP believes all politicians are on the grift and the other side is worse.

[Js1 85,574]

 

[atomheartbevo 89,797]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

they are treating this like any political issue, having discussions on which reps and senators are safe and which need cover, how many can go in one direction for that cover without jeopardizing their seat, etc. it’s a game to get right up to the edge without going over. “We tried our best, we did all we could.  Please keep voting for us.”

dangerous, dangerous game, and the stakes are the surviva of our country. 

There's more than a few Republican Senators up in '22, who have publicly declined to support Cruz's efforts, which goes back to A) how much do they hate Cruz and B) they are actually rational.  Those Senators up in '22 are going to face Trump's twitter rage and probably more than a few primary challengers, yet they still publicly declared they won't sign on to Cruz's train wreck.

Plus, Cornyn released a statement today saying he'll support the certification.

And Cruz and Co. are helping to drive up voter turnout in Georgia.  Cruz is going to fuck around and find out with Mitch if he costs Mitch the majority.

[tx 3 putt 77,426]

29 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Sounds like the traitors decided their plan is only to challenge 3 states:

Cruz will challenge Arizona

Hawley will challenge Pennsylvania

Loeffler will challenge Georgia

Cruz said he will not challenge any other states.  Ron Johnson will probably challenge Wisconsin. 

 

wtf. Senator's should only be able to question their state. fuck this 

Edited January 5, 2021 by tx 3 putt

[aggie08 21,531]

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

This pisses me off more than just about anything. The Texas joke of a lawsuit wasn't that long ago. You pretended that there was validity to the Kraken allegations then. What changed? The evidence proving it all laughable has been there for months if you were willing to take 3 seconds to look. But now you've seen the light? Why not go all in you worthless sack of shit? Or, better yet, admit that you participated in a political stunt knowing full well that the case was bogus. It's way too late to fence sit. 

[Guest Lobo]

If it's so easy to just "find" 12,000 votes in Georgia...shouldn't Trump share that secret with Senator Perdue and then he doesn't even need to bother with today's election?  Didn't Perdue only fail to meet the plurality of 50%+1 by a similar number of votes? 

[aggie08 21,531]

53 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I am getting more and more pessimistic. I think it’s clear that whatever he believed after Election Day, Trump has walked too far out on this ledge.  I really expect we are going to have two people claiming to be POTUS on January 20 and a not-insignificant subset of legislators lining up behind Trump.  I don’t think it’s only grift at this point.

Where's that feel-good article written by a female journalist after Biden was named President-elect, congratulating us all for walking out to the edge but not jumping? Because not an insignificant amount of us are currently diving head fucking first. Somehow, this is all her fault.

[atomheartbevo 89,797]

55 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I am getting more and more pessimistic. I think it’s clear that whatever he believed after Election Day, Trump has walked too far out on this ledge.  I really expect we are going to have two people claiming to be POTUS on January 20 and a not-insignificant subset of legislators lining up behind Trump.  I don’t think it’s only grift at this point.

If those legislators want to fuck around and find out, at least in the Senate, Mitch may have something to say about that. Especially if they cost him the majority with Georgia.

Like buzzrock said, the power brokers will circle the wagons and make sure this don't happen again.  This is stirring up a lot of shit and putting Republicans through purity tests they don't want to go through.  It was all fun and games when Trump was winning, but now he's lost and he's trying to burn down the GOP and threatening to primary Republicans who won't blow him.  George H. W. never did this, neither did Ford.

Cornyn didn't come out with his statement today for shits and giggles.  Neither did Tim Scott and other Republican Senators over the past 48 hours.  In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Mitch is having Cornyn, Scott, and the others put these statements out to send a message to Cruz and Co.

[hobbes2702 13,073]

47 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

You fucking think?

It’s almost like someone has been saying this, while standing on a ledge with good scotch, inviting everyone to join, for 5 years.

He’s always been a wannabe autocrat. Why is this a surprise to anyone?

[RDCanecutter 26,473]

8 minutes ago, Lobo said:

If it's so easy to just "find" 12,000 votes in Georgia...shouldn't Trump share that secret with Senator Perdue and then he doesn't even need to bother with today's election?  Didn't Perdue only fail to meet the plurality of 50%+1 by a similar number of votes? 

Maybe it's like Scientology. Maybe Perdue didn't pay enough for that new inside knowledge.

[jimmyjazz 46,130]

2 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

It’s almost like someone has been saying this, while standing on a ledge with good scotch, inviting everyone to join, for 5 years.

He’s always been a wannabe autocrat. Why is this a surprise to anyone?

I don't think very many rejected the idea that Trump is a wannabe autocrat.  The disagreement has been over whether or not he might succeed.  I'm still highly skeptical, but there is nothing good to make of the amount of support he has received.  It puts a floor on the # Americans who must be overcome in each and every election, and it's not a small number.  It's depressing as hell.

[Guest Lobo]

Just now, RDCanecutter said:

Maybe it's like Scientology. Maybe Perdue didn't pay enough for that new inside knowledge.

Okay, simple math says Trump wants ~12,000 votes.  Perdue was just ~14,000 votes from walking off with a 50%+1 victory.  I mean, if you're gonna ask for the exact amount you need to win, why not "uncover" a couple grand more votes in a state of millions?  You do that, you coulda made a deal with McConnell.  He keeps his majority and he helps you take the EC.  But nope, your dumbass was shown a number about how many votes you needed to win Georgia, and you idiotically asked for that exact amount to a public official on a recorded line.  Everyday, I think it's impossible you're this stupid.  I mean, you are stupid.  But so many other traits of yours overshadow your slightly-below average intelligence.  

[Sbbruin 21,887]

47 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Ron Johnson will probably challenge Wisconsin. 

I kind of lost track of him after his days as a stereo salesman.

[RDCanecutter 26,473]

24 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

wtf. Senator's should only be able to question their state. fuck this 

I dunno. Vermont could examine Alabama's doings, New Hampshire could dig around a little in Texas' business, etc. If time is not an issue it could turn out highly entertaining.

Everybody'd look at Louisiana, just say "Fuck it. Whatever."

[hobbes2702 13,073]

10 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

I kind of lost track of him after his days as a stereo salesman.

[Upgrayedd 5,818]

17 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

I kind of lost track of him after his days as a stereo salesman.

Audio consultant

[Buzzrock 14,941]

30 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

It’s almost like someone has been saying this, while standing on a ledge with good scotch, inviting everyone to join, for 5 years.

He’s always been a wannabe autocrat. Why is this a surprise to anyone?

Wait, there’s Scotch out there? 

[Guest Lobo]

2 minutes ago, Upgrayedd said:

Audio consultant

Plus connoisseur of fine leather sports jackets.  Just ask Stacy Hamilton, the man knows his way around the Woofer, the Tweeter, and of course the Midrange.  

[Dr. Teeth 5,845]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Sounds like the traitors decided their plan is only to challenge 3 states:

Cruz will challenge Arizona

Hawley will challenge Pennsylvania

Loeffler will challenge Georgia

Cruz said he will not challenge any other states.  Ron Johnson will probably challenge Wisconsin. 

They honesty think they are playing some sort of chess game. It only makes them look dumber when it fails.

[shakahorn 1,645]

38 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

I kind of lost track of him after his days as a stereo salesman.

He didn't call you back either, huh?

[Biff Tannen 45,738]

20 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Wait, there’s Scotch out there? 

Dude.  As Sergeant at Arms, I'm not sure you should be allowed now if you didn't know there was Scotch.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,224]

57 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Okay, simple math says Trump wants ~12,000 votes.  Perdue was just ~14,000 votes from walking off with a 50%+1 victory.  I mean, if you're gonna ask for the exact amount you need to win, why not "uncover" a couple grand more votes in a state of millions?  You do that, you coulda made a deal with McConnell.  He keeps his majority and he helps you take the EC.  But nope, your dumbass was shown a number about how many votes you needed to win Georgia, and you idiotically asked for that exact amount to a public official on a recorded line.  Everyday, I think it's impossible you're this stupid.  I mean, you are stupid.  But so many other traits of yours overshadow your slightly-below average intelligence.  

You need to apologize to RDCanecutter.  The fuck did he do to you?

[RDCanecutter 26,473]

1 minute ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

You need to apologize to RDCanecutter.  The fuck did he do to you?

Don't ask me-- I'm just Lobo's sock.

[lemonlime 5,503]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Sounds like the traitors decided their plan is only to challenge 3 states:

Cruz will challenge Arizona

Hawley will challenge Pennsylvania

Loeffler will challenge Georgia

Cruz said he will not challenge any other states.  Ron Johnson will probably challenge Wisconsin. 

How will Loeffler challenge Georgia?  Will she be certified the winner by tomorrow?

[Js1 85,574]

1 minute ago, lemonlime said:

How will Loeffler challenge Georgia?  Will she be certified the winner by tomorrow?

Bc she’s appointed to a seat that’s not up until 2022, she’s still a senator. The term hasn’t expired. 

[gernblansten 3,197]

2 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

 

I’m frequently reminded of a scene in Yellowstone where the sexy Governor tells Jamie that campaigning is not the same as governing. In a campaign, getting elected is all that matters.

 

It all appears to be pretty similar to me.  In a campaign, getting elected is all that matters.  In governing, getting re-elected is all that matters.

[Gil Bang 26,020]

hahaha

 

 

[Willfully Horn 8,049]

38 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Bc she’s appointed to a seat that’s not up until 2022, she’s still a senator. The term hasn’t expired. 

?

Why is she in today’s runoff?

[Js1 85,574]

2 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

?

Why is she in today’s runoff?

To finish out the term through 2022.  Georgia law says you have to have a special election to fill the rest of the term.  Unlike Perdue, whose term expired on January 3, 2021, as no one was elected and certified as the winner of the race (bc of the run-off). 

She's still the placeholder until the results are certified - either she has been elected to finish the term or she has lost and Warnock has been elected to finish the term. 

Edited January 5, 2021 by Js1

[Willfully Horn 8,049]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

To finish out the term through 2022.

She's still the placeholder until the results are certified - either she has been elected to finish the term or she has lost and Warnock has been elected to finish the term. 

Thanks for learning me.

[Js1 85,574]

 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20,493]

1 hour ago, Gil Bang said:

hahaha

 

 

Yet another terrible person who has had her life ruined by her association with Donald Trump.  I hope whatever money she got was worth it because I can't imagine any law firm hiring her now. 

[J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. 1,084]

Cleta the slack-jawed Okie resigns from her law firm:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/05/politics/cleta-mitchell-resigns-trump-georgia/index.html

already removed from firm's website.

https://www.foley.com/en/people/m/mitchell-cleta

 

Edit:  missed post above, but boy they were fast with their website!

Edited January 5, 2021 by J.R. Juniors Junior Jr.

[Irwin F Fletcher 3,550]

To finish out the term through 2022.  Georgia law says you have to have a special election to fill the rest of the term.  Unlike Perdue, whose term expired on January 3, 2021, as no one was elected and certified as the winner of the race (bc of the run-off). 
She's still the placeholder until the results are certified - either she has been elected to finish the term or she has lost and Warnock has been elected to finish the term. 

so the bottom line is she's contesting the election that she was actually in. That is on brand for the Trump Republicans