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The rumor is that Alito and Thomas voted first, and then there was a dump of 7 votes. Texas expert says there’s only a 0.0039% chance of this happening.

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Fuck Kayleigh and her headache and all the other enabling babysitters. I hope she hasn’t had a night with more than three hours of sleep for this entire year. I hope he texts her and calls her at al

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40 plus indictments, guilty pleas, convictions, prison sentences, and roughly a dozen fed cases borne of said investigation is slightly more than jack shit.

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These trump attorneys are trying to repeat the same lies they have been over and over and the judge is having NONE of it. It's excellent.

"Did any of you do the minimal duty in validating a sworn affidavit before submitting it to this court?"

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6 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Maybe it’s a cardboard cutout. 

That's what I was wondering.

3 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

I haven't follow this entire thread but how long until the "well the judge was Black" card is played?  Or has it already been played?   

Clearly an Obama appointee!

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31 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Sidney Powell has not made a sound nor changed expression in the hour-plus that I've been watching.  She hasn't even moved.

Zoom hack #1. Screen shot yourself and save a your profile picture. Turn video off and go take a shit and it looks like you're still on screen. 

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1 minute ago, Ojo Rojo said:

Blatantly disrespecting the judge.  Sneering.  I can't believe it.  You disrespect a federal judge at your peril, friendo.

To my amateur eye he appeared to be attempting an offensive strategy but on Zoom it comes across as offensive of a different sort. Just as with text versus in person, Zoom can improve or harm communications.

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Sidney Powell saying she will need a transcript of the hearing before she can start drafting a supplemental briefing is like Conor McGregor saying he'll need video of the fight before knowing what kind of medical treatment he will need.

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9 minutes ago, Captainant said:

That hearing was something else. It was jaw-dropping to see the kraken attorneys straight up argue with the judge, cut her off, and act so rude to the other counsel on the call.

They're gonna have a bad time

But isn't the sanction not meant to be excessively punitive but a deterrence? Seems like with their belligerence that it ought to have a little weight behind it, especially towards the bow tie fellow.

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1 minute ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

But isn't the sanction not meant to be excessively punitive but a deterrence? Seems like with their belligerence that it ought to have a little weight behind it, especially towards the bow tie fellow.

Well, that and Powell's closing statement basically being

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2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Sidney Powell has not made a sound nor changed expression in the hour-plus that I've been watching.  She hasn't even moved.

2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Haller is literally the only one talking.  Everyone else is sitting there quietly, trying to figure out how they're going to appeal the forthcoming sanctions. 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Captainant said:

That hearing was something else. It was jaw-dropping to see the kraken attorneys straight up argue with the judge, cut her off, and act so rude to the other counsel on the call.

They're gonna have a bad time

I'd say that the type of people who would defend Trump with these lawsuits, are the exact kind of people to argue with a judge, cut the judge off, and be rude to others on the call.

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8 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

So what are we actually looking at here?  Will any of these people be affected long term?

Another grift. They want to be sanctioned, appeal by crying "first amendment," and raise a shit ton of money from idiots online. They've learned a lot from their dear leader.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rnc-trump-stop-the-steal/2021/07/12/79e58a02-e320-11eb-934f-7e6c1927f261_story.html

 

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The Republican Party’s top lawyer warned in November against continuing to push false claims that the presidential election was stolen, calling efforts by some of the former president’s lawyers a “joke” that could mislead millions of people, according to an email obtained by The Washington Post.

Justin Riemer, the Republican National Committee’s chief counsel, sought to discourage a Republican Party staffer from posting claims about ballot fraud on RNC accounts, the email shows, as attempts by Trump and his associates to challenge results in a number of states, such as Arizona and Pennsylvania, intensified.

 

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“What Rudy and Jenna are doing is a joke and they are getting laughed out of court,” Riemer, a longtime Republican lawyer, wrote to Liz Harrington, a former party spokeswoman on Nov. 28, referring to Trump attorneys Rudolph W. Giuliani and Jenna Ellis. “They are misleading millions of people who have wishful thinking that the president is going to somehow win this thing.”

The email from Riemer to Harrington came about six weeks before Trump supporters stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 and it shows that key figures in the party were privately disturbed by the false claims being made about the election by Trump and his supporters — even if they did not say so publicly.

 

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Riemer said Ellis and Giuliani were damaging a broader Republican Party push on “election integrity” issues, according to the email. Riemer had led the party’s legal efforts for months ahead of and after the November election, particularly limiting the expansion of mail-in ballots. But Riemer was skeptical internally of some of the most conspiratorial theories and did not believe many of the claims from Giuliani and others about fraud, according to people who spoke to Reimer and discussed his views on the condition of anonymity because they were private conversations.

 

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Some Trump allies, including Giuliani, sought to have Riemer fired after learning of the emails, according to people familiar with the matter, but he remains employed at the RNC.

“I led the RNC legal team in over 55 lawsuits on behalf of the President’s reelection, winning a majority of them, including the only successful post-election lawsuit. Any suggestion that I did not support President Trump or do everything in my power to support the RNC’s efforts to reelect President Trump is false,” Riemer said in a statement. “I will say publicly now what I then said privately: I take issue with individuals who brought lawsuits that did not serve President Trump well and did not give him the best chance in court.”

Harrington, who is now a spokeswoman for Trump, continued to push voter fraud allegations and left the RNC at the end of 2020. As the former president’s spokeswoman, she continues to post false claims of election fraud on social media and helps draft and disseminate the former president’s false claims about the election.

“The only thing that’s a joke is the idea that Joe Biden got 81 million votes,” Harrington said, when asked about Riemer’s email on Monday afternoon. 

Giuliani did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the emails. Ellis did not immediately respond to a call seeking comment.

In recent weeks, some Trump allies have targeted the RNC and its chairwoman, Ronna McDaniel, arguing they did not do enough in the aftermath of the Nov. 3 election to help Trump overturn the results. Ellis herself has led much of the attacks, tweeting “RonnaMustGo.”

Ellis and Giuliani were brought in by the former president to handle his election challenges within two weeks of the election, amid his growing dissatisfaction with his traditional legal team. Many of those lawyers stepped back in mid-November when Trump appointed Giuliani and others to take charge. But Giuliani and Ellis were also unable to overturn the results, and Trump has complained about both of them in recent weeks, according to multiple people familiar with the former president’s remarks. Ellis has launched a group on voting, but Trump has not yet backed it publicly. 

In the days after the election, McDaniel flew to various states to raise issues about the election and Giuliani and former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell held a much-maligned news conference in the lobby of the party’s headquarters. The email from Riemer came days after that news conference, which discomfited senior RNC officials. McDaniel soon slowed her public appearances and did not embrace the far-flung conspiracies.

McDaniel has urged top donors and party officials in recent weeks to focus on the 2022 midterms and has argued that focusing on re-litigating the results of the 2020 election could hurt the party going forward, according to people who have spoken with her. But people close to McDaniel said she continues to speak with Trump and has a good relationship with him.

The RNC has also declined, according to multiple people familiar with the matter, to pay any of Giuliani’s legal bills — a point of contention among some Giuliani associates. “Rudy Giuliani has never worked for the RNC and he has never acted at our direction,” a party spokeswoman said.

 

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