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The rumor is that Alito and Thomas voted first, and then there was a dump of 7 votes. Texas expert says there’s only a 0.0039% chance of this happening.

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Fuck Kayleigh and her headache and all the other enabling babysitters. I hope she hasn’t had a night with more than three hours of sleep for this entire year. I hope he texts her and calls her at al

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40 plus indictments, guilty pleas, convictions, prison sentences, and roughly a dozen fed cases borne of said investigation is slightly more than jack shit.

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8 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

 

Are they saying that voters in X counties are illegally having their votes diluted by some small number of fraudulent votes, and the remedy is to not count ANY votes from those counties?

or are they saying that the entire state has a vote dilution problem, and the remedy is to toss all votes from X counties?

either way they are trying to argue that 30 votes or something on that order are sufficient to affect the outcome of a statewide election that was decided by tens of thousands of votes, and that disenfranchising hundreds of thousands is the only and correct solution. 
 

doesnt sound like counting all the legal votes to me. 

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13 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

 

Yeah.....that seems like a viable remedy, that any court would jump at the chance to impose.

And of course, I mean, it's predicated on there being the thing they reference -- "sufficient evidence that illegal votes were counted in the identified county to change or place in doubt the results of the election results in that county."  And, ummm......they don't have that.  So, without the evidence thingie, you don't get ANY remedy thingie, much less an outlandish remedy thingie.

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18 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

 

That whole complaint is a real doozer.

It's trying to say that if there are sufficient potentially invalid votes, then the whole election is queered.  This without proving any actually potentially invalid votes.  Just the possiblity of them.  Lawdogs should read. https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/11/ED-WI-Lawsuit.pdf

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Just now, TwiceHorn said:

That whole complaint is a real doozer.

It's trying to say that if there are sufficient potentially invalid votes, then the whole election is queered.  This without proving any actually potentially invalid votes.  Just the possiblity of them.  Lawdogs should read. https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/11/ED-WI-Lawsuit.pdf

Man, I can't tell you how many times I file a pleading that amounts to "we all agree that X is super bad.  And if I had proof of X, I should totally win.  Therefore, grant me all the relief I ask for because remember, X is super bad.  And let's skip over the part where I don't have any proof of X."  You don't file those regularly?  Suckers, coloring only inside the lines.

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6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Man, I can't tell you how many times I file a pleading that amounts to "we all agree that X is super bad.  And if I had proof of X, I should totally win.  Therefore, grant me all the relief I ask for because remember, X is super bad.  And let's skip over the part where I don't have any proof of X."  You don't file those regularly?  Suckers, coloring only inside the lines.

Really you should read it.  It's only 22 pages and it has some jawdroppers.  It cites a Supreme Court case that observed that there is a higher potential for fraud in absentee and mail ballots as establishing that a substantial percentage of absentee and mail ballots are fraudulent.

It tries to assert that dead people voted absentee by asserting that people who died after voting are somehow fraudulent.  I dunno maybe their votes shouldn't count if they weren't alive on election day?

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Really you should read it.  It's only 22 pages and it has some jawdroppers.

It tries to assert that dead people voted absentee by asserting that people who died after voting are somehow fraudulent.  I dunno maybe their votes shouldn't count if they weren't alive on election day?

Well, 70 million were apparently brain-dead on election day.

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13 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

That whole complaint is a real doozer.

It's trying to say that if there are sufficient potentially invalid votes, then the whole election is queered.  This without proving any actually potentially invalid votes.  Just the possiblity of them.  Lawdogs should read. https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/11/ED-WI-Lawsuit.pdf

Their "proof" is statistical analysis and not actual fraud?  Did they bring in Trump's accounting team for this?  They know something about fraud.

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5 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

One of my best buddies in law school started with Weil Gotshal in Houston, but he was partnered up with a/the BK guy in NY on the Circle K thing.

He got kind of crossways with the Houston office management as a result and wasn't long for their world.

The coastal cities, and I guess NY in particular, really drive biglaw bankruptcy practices.

The only Houston area firm I see more often than not, is Jackson Walker.

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4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Is Vegas taking wagers on whether Mr. Guns Up's statements above actually turn out to be true?  Because I've got some cash to wager.....

I've tried to make large wagers about everything surrounding this bullshit controversy on that board and no one is taking. Shocking, really.

What do you think about this though:

5 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

@Brisketexan this dude is an ambulance chaser in Dallas. On a scale from never to never ever, would he ever be invited to serve on an election fraud team in another state?

 

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38 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

Their "proof" is statistical analysis and not actual fraud?  Did they bring in Trump's accounting team for this?  They know something about fraud.

Not even statistical analysis.  Opinions of various entities that mail/absentee ballots inherently include fraudulent ballots.  Then it gives a handful of examples that might be backed by evidence and invites the court to extrapolate/speculate that the election in those counties is void for invalid mail/absentee votes.

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1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

Lawyers, here is your witness 

 

 

41 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Hungry poll workers = election fraud.  WTF?!?!

 

21 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

"So, I didn't see anything, but what I saw had to be something, so you have to believe that I saw something, and it had to be bad for truth, honor, and the Trumpian way?"  Yeah, sure.

 

10 minutes ago, Underdog said:

She's a woman, should be able to make her own sandwiches. 

At about 35 seconds you can see her lift up her notes into frame. Notes so that she doesn’t forget that there wasn’t enough food and food vans arrived and unloaded but no food was brought in. 

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2 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

@Brisketexan this dude is an ambulance chaser in Dallas. On a scale from never to never ever, would he ever be invited to serve on an election fraud team in another state?

Apparently not an "ambulance chaser."  Plaintiff's attorneys are pretty reliably liberal. If not really philosophically liberal, they vote with their pocketbooks.

He's a 1031 Like Kind Exchange specialist, which is probably more business/financial advisor than lawdog.

https://1031ventures.com/

Also https://1992ventures.com/

Also apparently ACU undergrad, which probably explains a lot.

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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

Apparently not an "ambulance chaser."  Plaintiff's attorneys are pretty reliably liberal.

He's a 1031 Like Kind Exchange specialist, which is probably more business/financial advisor than lawdog.

https://1031ventures.com/

Also https://1992ventures.com/

He's said he was a personal injury lawyer on the board before so that's what I was going on. Could be his private practice is that or something.

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5 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

It tries to assert that dead people voted absentee by asserting that people who died after voting are somehow fraudulent.  I dunno maybe their votes shouldn't count if they weren't alive on election day?

I was skimming the PA election code looking for something else and ran into where this is covered. You can challenge a mail-in ballot on the basis the voter died prior to election day and the ballot would get tossed.  So, yeah, it is recognized as a legit possibility with a remedy already built in.  Obviously AZ might be different, but I assume they also cover it.

The other interesting thing I saw (in PA) was that every ballot you challenge, you pay a $10 deposit.  If you win, or withdraw the challenge within six days of the election, you get it back. If you lose your challenge, you lose the money. How many votes is Trump down in PA?  

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15 minutes ago, Tuco said:

I was skimming the PA election code looking for something else and ran into where this is covered. You can challenge a mail-in ballot on the basis the voter died prior to election day and the ballot would get tossed.  So, yeah, it is recognized as a legit possibility with a remedy already built in.  Obviously AZ might be different, but I assume they also cover it.

The other interesting thing I saw (in PA) was that every ballot you challenge, you pay a $10 deposit.  If you win, or withdraw the challenge within six days of the election, you get it back. If you lose your challenge, you lose the money. How many votes is Trump down in PA?  

It also says that while a voter deceased at the time of the election shall not have their vote counted, but counting their vote does not invalidate the election.

Whoops.

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4 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Lawyers, here is your witness 

 

i heard that the van-watchers tried to get up close, like 4-6 feet away from the vans like they were told they could be, but they were only allowed to get 12 feet away from the vans, so they couldn't see all the bad stuff that the vans were up to.  but the things removed from the vans, were removed from the back of the vans.

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