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23 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

This Atlantic article was published before the election, so it's probably already been posted somewhere on this board. But I'm sharing just in case. It games out the Republican plan to steal the election via fraud claims and pressure on Republican legislatures. Pretty unnerving. And while it's no big surprise Trump is doing this, it's kind of crazy to see that everything they predicted in advance seems to be happening. 

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According to sources in the Republican Party at the state and national levels, the Trump campaign is discussing contingency plans to bypass election results and appoint loyal electors in battleground states where Republicans hold the legislative majority. With a justification based on claims of rampant fraud, Trump would ask state legislators to set aside the popular vote and exercise their power to choose a slate of electors directly. The longer Trump succeeds in keeping the vote count in doubt, the more pressure legislators will feel to act before the safe-harbor deadline expires.

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51 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

This Atlantic article was published before the election, so it's probably already been posted somewhere on this board. But I'm sharing just in case. It games out the Republican plan to steal the election via fraud claims and pressure on Republican legislatures. Pretty unnerving. And while it's no big surprise Trump is doing this, it's kind of crazy to see that everything they predicted in advance seems to be happening. 

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According to sources in the Republican Party at the state and national levels, the Trump campaign is discussing contingency plans to bypass election results and appoint loyal electors in battleground states where Republicans hold the legislative majority. With a justification based on claims of rampant fraud, Trump would ask state legislators to set aside the popular vote and exercise their power to choose a slate of electors directly. The longer Trump succeeds in keeping the vote count in doubt, the more pressure legislators will feel to act before the safe-harbor deadline expires.

Going down this doom rabbit hole 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/10/fact-check-state-legislators-choose-electors/6204171002/

https://www.fairvote.org/faithless_elector_state_laws

Even if we go down the path of faithless electors and possible civil war 

The good news, is Nevada, Arizona, Michigan, Minnesota all have faithless elector laws. The faithless vote is automatically canceled and replaced with a different elector by law. 

Of course Wisconsin, Georgia, and PA do not have these laws. But Biden only needs Wisconsin. If PA ignores 50K voter margin, then yeah, that state and our country would explode. 

more research. It appears PA has already selected its electors, which are selected by each political party. They are certified by the governor. So the chance of democratic loyalists not voting for Biden is highly unlikely 

 


 

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39 minutes ago, immamac said:

Faithless electors are a huge no go. Even people who voted for Trump would not be cool with that. 

 

36 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

You’re wrong about the last part.

Very wrong.  When you understand that their worldview is "if we can't have this country.... NOBODY CAN!", then you will understand that they are 100% willing to destroy this country so the evil libtards (translation: not white people) can't have it.

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3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

 

Very wrong.  When you understand that their worldview is "if we can't have this country.... NOBODY CAN!", then you will understand that they are 100% willing to destroy this country so the evil libtards (translation: not white people) can't have it.

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3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

 

Very wrong.  When you understand that their worldview is "if we can't have this country.... NOBODY CAN!", then you will understand that they are 100% willing to destroy this country so the evil libtards (translation: not white people) can't have it.

“Evil libtards” includes white people it’s just that they are the traitors to their own race. In point of fact the white traitors are worse than “the others” themselves.

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2 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

All of y’all freaking over trump are failing to recognize that he is a coward at heart and not a fighter. This will be over with soon.

What if....and go with me here.....he's MORE afraid of what's waiting for him if he leaves office?  Like, say, an avalanche of criminal prosecutions and hundreds of millions of dollars of loans called in?

Cowardice IS the motive.  We just need to take into account all the things he's afraid of, and realize that "starting a civil war" is actually low on his list of fears, because that's not about him.

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7 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

All of y’all freaking over trump are failing to recognize that he is a coward at heart and not a fighter. This will be over with soon.

He is a cowardly fighter, aka a bully. He’ll fight nonstop against anyone he has an unfair advantage over. So long as he has a rabid, civil warrey base, he has leverage to bully us, and as long as the GOP has a reputation to uphold, he has leverage over them, too.

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47 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Going down this doom rabbit hole 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/10/fact-check-state-legislators-choose-electors/6204171002/

https://www.fairvote.org/faithless_elector_state_laws

Even if we go down the path of faithless electors and possible civil war 

The good news, is Nevada, Arizona, Michigan, Minnesota all have faithless elector laws. The faithless vote is automatically canceled and replaced with a different elector by law. 

Of course Wisconsin, Georgia, and PA do not have these laws. But Biden only needs Wisconsin. If PA ignores 50K voter margin, then yeah, that state and our country would explode. 
 

 


 

The people of this nation- even republicans- will not allow for this to happen. Every single person who tries should be hanged for treason. Hanging is still one of the legal punishments for treason. 

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55 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

 

Very wrong.  When you understand that their worldview is "if we can't have this country.... NOBODY CAN!", then you will understand that they are 100% willing to destroy this country so the evil libtards (translation: not white people) can't have it.

I’m white.  Are you gonna kick me out of the club?

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22 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

The people of this nation- even republicans- will not allow for this to happen. Every single person who tries should be hanged for treason. Hanging is still one of the legal punishments for treason. 

Not all, not even most, but a sizable number of them would go along with that. These people inhabit an alternate reality where they’re truly convinced that this election has been stolen.

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42 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

The people of this nation- even republicans- will not allow for this to happen. Every single person who tries should be hanged for treason. Hanging is still one of the legal punishments for treason. 

Republicans would justify it as trump was cheated by democrat fraud so it's justified for trump to stage a coup against the american constitution. Even with zero evidence of any fraud at all much less the hundreds of thousands in multiple states that would be needed to have any effect on the outcome. 

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1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

Going down this doom rabbit hole 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/10/fact-check-state-legislators-choose-electors/6204171002/

https://www.fairvote.org/faithless_elector_state_laws

Even if we go down the path of faithless electors and possible civil war 

The good news, is Nevada, Arizona, Michigan, Minnesota all have faithless elector laws. The faithless vote is automatically canceled and replaced with a different elector by law. 

Of course Wisconsin, Georgia, and PA do not have these laws. But Biden only needs Wisconsin. If PA ignores 50K voter margin, then yeah, that state and our country would explode. 

more research. It appears PA has already selected its electors, which are selected by each political party. They are certified by the governor. So the chance of democratic loyalists not voting for Biden is highly unlikely 

 


 

Not really worried about faithless electors. Ain't nobody on the Dem slates defecting to dotard. 

I'm more concerned about the R legislatures in states Biden won fucking around and sending a dueling R slate of electors' votes to congress, as outlined in that Atlantic article's doom scenario. It's not that likely, in my mind, but I put nothing past these sons of bitches. 

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30 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

Not all, not even most, but a sizable number of them would go along with that. These people inhabit an alternate reality where they’re truly convinced that this election has been stolen.

Those people have no souls, no spine, no conscious, no morals, no empathy and they only care about themselves - but hey, they’re Christians.

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1 hour ago, DigDug said:

 

The Trumpers are split between being convinced that this is the first chink in the armor and that it sets massive amount of legal precedent about Secretaries of State power and will lead to a win on some subsequent lawsuit that will cause millions of ballots to be invalidated AND/OR assuming that these ballots were mixed in with the full pool of mail in ballots which now, having no record of how many there were, invalidates the entire lot of mail in ballots statewide making the state unable to certify their election and thus unable to send any electors to the EC. 

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1 hour ago, Wanker Bob said:

They're supposed to just be ceremonial anyway

They really aren't supposed to be. They were supposed to be a fail safe against electing a tyrant. Now, if they are trying to bribe or coerce them, that should be illegal for sure.

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5 hours ago, Walden Ponderer said:

Most lumpy people who look like the fat kid who gets picked last in junior high are. That's not even a political calculation, that's just life. If he looks like a weak, nerdy dork, he's probably a weak, nerdy dork. Newt Gingrich would be the same. Susan Collins, though, looks like she'd cut you.

Please do not lump him in with us nerds.

Thanks.

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Insulting children, insulting a person who was struggling and stressed dealing with a tantrum from a kid with LD, and you think I am the wrong one here and trying to take revenge on a guy who is working on calming a kid down. 

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Dude. Surly. You said you told your kid to scream on the plane because you were butt hurt at the stares. Hint: your kid screaming on the plane is not just heard by the meanie stare-y people.

The seat back thing is a Shaggy/Surly meme. Because I could not find a way to work in bike riders.
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14 hours ago, DigDug said:

 

14 hours ago, DigDug said:

Lol

 

Fucking lovely.

First, our carpet bagger Lieutenant Governor gets owned by PA's Lieutenant Governor.

And now one of our Senators gets owned, twice on the same day, by PA's Attorney General and Hillary Clinton's former general counsel.

How fucking embarrassing for Texas.  How fucking embarrassing.

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Y'all realize that the chances of this ending up in a violent confrontation are going up by the minute, right?  That's the endgame.  If he refuses to accept the loss -- and he will refuse to accept the loss -- how does that play out any other way?

Oh, and for those of you thinking the Secret Service will just evict him.....what are you going to think when he deploys his loyalist CBP troops to the White House to "protect THEIR president?"  In the endgame, there are armed troops who support the regime present as well.

And plenty of MAGA cosplayers with their ARs will show up on the streets of DC as well.  Again, we are facing a non-zero chance of running gun battles in DC to settle this.  That's where the GOP is taking us. 

If that happens, fuck it....I hope it happens all the fucking way.  Let forces loyal to the United States take out the MAGAs, Trump's jackboots, and all of his enablers.  And let history note what cowards like Cornyn will do during the chaos -- hide, whimper, and then come out and say they were in favor of the winning side all along.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Y'all realize that the chances of this ending up in a violent confrontation are going up by the minute, right?  That's the endgame.  If he refuses to accept the loss -- and he will refuse to accept the loss -- how does that play out any other way?

People moving on and starting to forget about him.  Which all of us should be aggressively doing.

He's being a dick about the transition - we knew he would be.  And he's going to retreat in the end because he's a coward.  And he's going to try to maximize his $$$ in the process.

 

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Just now, tantric superman said:

People moving on and starting to forget about him.  Which all of us should be aggressively doing.

He's being a dick about the transition - we knew he would be.  And he's going to retreat in the end because he's a coward.  And he's going to try to maximize his $$$ in the process.

 

That is our best-case scenario.  It may even be the most likely scenario.

But the worst-case scenario remains in play.

That scenario SHOULD NEVER EVEN FUCKING BE IN PLAY.  THE VERY FACT THAT IT IS IN PLAY IS A FUCKING DISASTER.  WE SHOULD NEVER, EVER EVEN HAVE THIS FUCKING CONVERSATION.

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MAGA cosplaying chuds aren't going to be invading DC. They're terrified of DC because it has black people. That's why they keep running that game back to Portland time after time. They can't even win street battles against Portland's granola antifa, they're not ready for DC or Philly.

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6 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

MAGA cosplaying chuds aren't going to be invading DC. They're terrified of DC because it has black people. That's why they keep running that game back to Portland time after time. They can't even win street battles against Portland's granola antifa, they're not ready for DC or Philly.

Also DC isn’t open carry. Kind of reduces their tough guy playlet.

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11 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

MAGA cosplaying chuds aren't going to be invading DC. They're terrified of DC because it has black people. That's why they keep running that game back to Portland time after time. They can't even win street battles against Portland's granola antifa, they're not ready for DC or Philly.

Haha this is funny and accurate. 
 

an aside, is the gritty rep good or bad or neutral? I’m afraid to give it in case someone thinks I’m negging them.

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9 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I'd love for you to be right, but if history is any indication, the incumbent's party is in for a long 2022 election night.

Midterms could look more like 2002 than 2010/18 since Biden can’t pass sweeping partisan legislation that pisses off the masses. 

2002 = 9/11

2022 = beating COVID

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15 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Anyone want to talk about the looming impeachment disaster that awaits us when Republicans control both House and Senate in 2023?

That's a non-starter with Romney, Collins and Murkowski in the Senate. I'm sure some will laugh at that statement, but impeaching over some Hunter Biden bullshit wouldn't fly with them. 

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