Official Thread for Abortion Demagoguery

[wildcat09 29349]

 

 

[atomheartbevo 89651]

Clarence Thomas opened up the contraception can of worms, and a lot of us here said Republicans might start pushing to do away with it.

[atomheartbevo 89651]

4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Clarence Thomas opened up the contraception can of worms, and a lot of us here said Republicans might start pushing to do away with it.

What do you know, he couldn't hold back in an unrelated case and had to mention it again

 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20395]

Crazy shit. Nebraska police obtained a warrant to get at Facebook messages between the mother and the daughter. Meta turned the messages over to the police.  The 17 year old daughter took abortion pills at 29 weeks. Survival rate for a premature baby at 29 weeks is 80 percent.  All of this was pre-Dobbs. 


 

 

[Anastasis 23469]

^That the case where they lit the still born fetus on fire afterwards?

Edited July 12, 2023 by Anastasis

[StassneyHorn 6575]

FDA approves first over-the-counter birth control pill in the U.S.

The oral contraceptive Opill isn't expected to be on store shelves until early next year.
 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna93958

[Neonmoon 38129]

17 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Crazy shit. Nebraska police obtained a warrant to get at Facebook messages between the mother and the daughter. Meta turned the messages over to the police.  The 17 year old daughter took abortion pills at 29 weeks. Survival rate for a premature baby at 29 weeks is 80 percent.  All of this was pre-Dobbs. 


 

 

We live in the stupidest fucking world. 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20395]

16 hours ago, Anastasis said:

^That the case where they lit the still born fetus on fire afterwards?

Yes. 

[Sawbonz 27547]

18 hours ago, Anastasis said:

^That the case where they lit the still born fetus on fire afterwards?

If they used mifepristone at 29 weeks I doubt it was stillborn 

[4th&Five 41525]

 

[StassneyHorn 6575]

 

[pacman 7355]

 

 

[Biff Tannen 45676]

1 hour ago, pacman said:

 

 

Is that Thomas' wife in the back?

[jimmyjazz 45900]

5 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Is that Thomas' wife in the back?

Yes, it's Ginni.  Either that or it's her very unfortunate doppelganger.

[Biff Tannen 45676]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yes, it's Ginni.  Either that or it's her very unfortunate doppelganger.

I figured, with her concerned scowl the entire time.  What a dumb bitch.

[Willfully Horn 8008]

Here’s a link to the whole meeting for @Anastasis. He doesn’t respond well to embedded TikTok tweets.

Ferret out the disinformation for us, sir.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?524567-1/hearing-politics-supreme-court

[Anastasis 23469]

20 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Here’s a link to the whole meeting for @Anastasis. He doesn’t respond well to embedded TikTok tweets.

Ferret out the disinformation for us, sir.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?524567-1/hearing-politics-supreme-court

Jesus dude, you need attention this bad huh? Go touch some grass or jump in a pool, buddy.  

Or I guess you can spend your Sunday afternoon watching three hours of testimony on C-SPAN. Lol. 

[Willfully Horn 8008]

5 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Jesus dude, you need attention this bad huh? Go touch some grass or jump in a pool, buddy.  

Or I guess you can spend your Sunday afternoon watching three hours of testimony on C-SPAN. Lol. 

I’d rather agree that those type tweets have value here.

[Anastasis 23469]

12 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

I’d rather agree that those type tweets have value here.

Certainly high value content you lunatic. 
 

Spoiler

MY GAWD...... WHY IS THIS NOT ON EVERY TV This is a cracked voice nervous as hell confession to what the negotiations were to overturn Roe with members of Congress and EVANGELICALS FFS They LITERALLY had CHURCH DIRECTING fcuking STATE IN THE CAPITOL OF THE UNITED STATES FFS WHY IS THIS NOT ON TV?

 

Edited July 17, 2023 by Anastasis

[StassneyHorn 6575]

Longcat emojis, ehh

[Anastasis 23469]

54 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Longcat emojis, ehh

These types of posts have value here. 

[Anastasis 23469]

I didn’t actually realize that the copy paste function was going to do that. But sometimes the abortion thread is just going to light things on fire. 

Edited July 17, 2023 by Anastasis

[Willfully Horn 8008]

36 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

I didn’t actually realize that the copy paste function was going to do that. But sometimes the abortion thread is just going to light things on fire. 

Though I think you could offer insight into where that deal with the devil lies for you, personally, I know you won’t/can’t be so intellectually honest. I imagine giving up any freedom, abortion excepted, of course, and I speak of the right to privacy,  would rankle someone who otherwise considers themself a patriot. And the demonization of immigrants ought make a Christian’s skin crawl. But, for you, Ana, the wholesale deepthroating of stupidity, as in utter rejection of fact, has to be anathema. 
 

You don’t reject facts you don’t like, you ignore them. Oh, and deflect.

Edited July 17, 2023 by Willfully Horn

[Anastasis 23469]

13 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Though I think you could offer insight into where that deal with the devil lies for you, personally, I know you won’t/can’t be so intellectually honest. I imagine giving up any freedom, abortion excepted, of course, and I speak of the right to privacy,  would rankle someone who otherwise considers themself a patriot. And the demonization of immigrants ought make a Christian’s skin crawl. But, for you, Ana, the wholesale deepthroating of stupidity, as in utter rejection of fact, has to be anathema. 
 

You don’t reject facts you don’t like, you ignore them. Oh, and deflect.

I am not really all that interested, but I guess whenever you want to talk about the nearly 4 hours of cspan testimony coverage you linked, I am down. But you are going to have to actually watch it first and provide your original thoughts buddy. 

Edited July 17, 2023 by Anastasis

[StassneyHorn 6575]

***after it’s gotten ugly***
 

Stassney’s Mom: “Well let’s not get ugly”

[cactusflinthead 27598]

Since Elon has fucked up Twitter I'll be posting whole threads.

Edited July 19, 2023 by cactusflinthead

[HenryJames 66043]

 

[DigglerontheHoof 21187]

If my wife/daughter was giving testimony and that state attorney pulled that shit, I'd be looking at 10-20 years in prison.  I'd beat him within an inch of his life. 

[Sawbonz 27547]

13 hours ago, HenryJames said:

 

Let’s be real. Nebraska teen who induced labor at 28 weeks and likely let the resultant delivered human die got off lightly. This was a despicable act, most likely due to ignorance rather than malice, but we should call out abhorrent behavior when we see it

 

[safe sex 11709]

To quote from the article:

“This case is really sad because people resort to things like this when they’re really desperate,” Professor Donley said, “and the thing that makes people really desperate is abortion bans.”

[Sawbonz 27547]

7 minutes ago, safe sex said:

To quote from the article:

“This case is really sad because people resort to things like this when they’re really desperate,” Professor Donley said, “and the thing that makes people really desperate is abortion bans.”

Absolutely. That is no reason to minimize what she actually did.

[Da Fino 2780]

Here's something I just learned first hand. A patient who has to have a failed pregnancy surgically removed has to sign a form to have that tissue sent away for cremation or burial. What the fuck?

[South Austin 52463]

1 minute ago, Da Fino said:

Here's something I just learned first hand. A patient who has to have a failed pregnancy surgically removed has to sign a form to have that tissue sent away for cremation or burial. What the fuck?

The fuck?  Is there supposed to be a minister presiding?  "The tissue will be dearly missed, but had a blessed life, and is now with the Heavenly Father."

[Willfully Horn 8008]

2 hours ago, Da Fino said:

Here's something I just learned first hand. A patient who has to have a failed pregnancy surgically removed has to sign a form to have that tissue sent away for cremation or burial. What the fuck?

Procedure is called a missed abortion, I believe. My wife underwent that operation.

Edited July 21, 2023 by Willfully Horn

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20395]

Pro-life party strikes again. Women are being forced to carry nonviable pregnancies to term so they can then go through a traumatic delivery and be handed a dead infant to hold for a few minutes.

 

Edited July 21, 2023 by Horn Under a Bad Sign

[StassneyHorn 6575]

Missouri Supreme Court orders attorney general to let abortion ballot initiative go forward

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4110105-missouri-supreme-court-orders-attorney-general-to-let-abortion-ballot-initiative-go-forward/

 

 

Missouri’s ballot initiative to legalize abortion will be allowed to move forward after the state Supreme Court ruled the state’s attorney general was improperly stonewalling the effort.

The court ruled unanimously Thursday that Attorney General Andrew Bailey (R) was using “misleading” and “incorrect” arguments to justify delaying his approval of the cost estimates ballot measure that would allow residents to vote on whether to legalize abortion, a crucial step in the certification process.

 

 

[Asithappens 974]

On 7/21/2023 at 8:47 AM, Sawbonz said:

Absolutely. That is no reason to minimize what she actually did.

Sure, let's all hop on board that train. 

While we conveniently turn a blind eye to the conditions that led to it. The more we can demonize young desperate women the less likely we will address the anti-Roe/anti-women's health issues. Kind of an old testament, GOP mentality, imo. 

[Captainant 27655]

On 7/21/2023 at 3:29 PM, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Pro-life party strikes again. Women are being forced to carry nonviable pregnancies to term so they can then go through a traumatic delivery and be handed a dead infant to hold for a few minutes.

 

all while racking up a crippling medical debt too, right @Anastasis?

[Sawbonz 27547]

45 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

Sure, let's all hop on board that train. 

While we conveniently turn a blind eye to the conditions that led to it. The more we can demonize young desperate women the less likely we will address the anti-Roe/anti-women's health issues. Kind of an old testament, GOP mentality, imo. 

Who turned a blind eye? Get your head out of your ass

 

eta this is a classic example of appeal to the extreme

Edited July 24, 2023 by Sawbonz

[pacman 7355]

 

 

 

[mchookem 16327]

jfc

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19100]

1 hour ago, pacman said:

 

 

 

Fuck all these guys.  What complete pieces of shit.  This is what misogyny looks like.

[Bullneck 19079]

[Pods 7552]

Anyone on the fence about whether the GQP is coming for birth control need only to Google/Duck, Duck, Go it. There are shit tons of results. AG candidates, Senators, Supreme Court Justices, House Representatives. This is just a few of many from a very quick perusal. 

 

Supreme Court

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/24/contraception-supreme-court-clarence-thomas-griswold/

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Clarence Thomas wrote on Friday that striking down Roe v. Wade should also open up the high court to review other precedents that may be deemed “demonstrably erroneous.”

Among those, Thomas wrote, was the right for married couples to buy and use contraception without government restriction, from the landmark 1965 ruling in Griswold v. Connecticut.

“In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell,” Thomas wrote on Page 119 of the opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health, also referring to the rulings that legalized same-sex relationships and marriage equality, respectively. “Because any substantive due process decision is ‘demonstrably erroneous’ … we have a duty to ‘correct the error’ established in those precedents.”

 

US Senator

https://www.newsweek.com/blackburn-says-scotus-ruling-protect-birth-control-couples-unsound-1690259

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A landmark U.S. Supreme Court ruling that protects married couples' ability to obtain and use birth control is "constitutionally unsound," according to Republican Senator Marsha Blackburn.

 

US House

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/house-republicans-voted-against-birth-control-protections_n_62d84d4be4b03dbb9913f86d

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The House passed the Right to Contraception Act on Thursday ― a bill that codifies the right to birth control and other contraceptives amid fears that the Supreme Court may come for that aspect of reproductive health care next after the high court repealed Roe v. Wade’s protection of abortion rights last month. 

The bill passed despite 195 Republicans who voted against the bill in a final vote of 228 to 195. Republicans who voted against the legislation included Reps. Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Paul Gosar (Ariz.), Jack Bergman (Mich.) and Joe Wilson (S.C.). Just eight Republicans voted in favor of the bill.

 

US Senators

https://www.axios.com/2022/07/27/birth-control-bill-senate

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Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) on Wednesday blocked a unanimous consent request to pass legislation that would have created a federal right to birth control use. 

Driving the news: Democrats moved to pass the bill through unanimous consent — meaning the bill would have been deemed passed had no one objected —in response to Justice Clarence Thomas' concurring opinion overturning Roe v. Wade, in which he said the Supreme Court should reconsider its precedents that protect access to contraceptives.

The House passed companion legislation last week.

Details: The bill, known as the Right to Contraception Act and introduced by Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.), would have protected "a person's ability to access contraceptives and ... a health care provider's ability to provide contraceptives" under federal law.

 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19100]

Marsha Blackburn and Joni Ernst need to fuck off, fucking traitors.  

[4th&Five 41525]

 

[wildcat09 29349]

12 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

Ana approves.

[WhatTheBuck 28776]

On 7/21/2023 at 4:29 PM, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Pro-life party strikes again. Women are being forced to carry nonviable pregnancies to term so they can then go through a traumatic delivery and be handed a dead infant to hold for a few minutes.

 

This is a heartbreaking story. Fuck the Republicans for the pain and suffering they cause.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/08/health/ohio-abortion-long/index.html

[WhatTheBuck 28776]

On 7/30/2023 at 3:42 PM, Bullneck said:

Here’s a clickable link:

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/07/ohio-state-representative-says-she-would-consider-banning-birth-control-following-abortion-outlaw.html

Fuck that cunt. She also sponsored a bill that would ban abortion from the moment of conception.

Here in Ohio they just recently banned August elections because of the cost and the low turnout. Then opponents of the abortion ban petitioned to put a pro-choice amendment on the ballot this November. So the Republicans are holding an August vote on one issue, to raise the threshold for a constitutional amendment from a simple majority vote, the way it’s been for over 100 years, to a 60% majority. Not coincidentally, polling shows that 58% of Ohioans support the amendment. (Prior amendments that passed with a simple majority but failed to meet the 60% threshold included bans on blacks and women in the Ohio National Guard which were both overturned in the 1950’s.)

Apparently there’s been a record turnout of voters based on early voting results. I dropped off my absentee ballot yesterday at election HQ and there was a long line of people outside waiting to vote. (I didn’t take a pic). So what have Ohio Republicans done now? They’ve sued to try to remove the amendment issue from the November ballot because they know they’re likely going to lose.

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/07/lawsuit-asks-ohio-supreme-court-to-block-abortion-rights-measure-from-november-ballot.html

Fuck all Republicans and fuck the Ohio GOP in particular. This August election is bullshit.  Fuck them and their stupid games. They’re trying to slip one by the people when no one’s looking but I don’t think they’re going to get away with it. Not that it’s an indicator but all the signs I see in people’s lawns and windows say “Vote No on Issue 1!”

They said there’s a shortage of poll workers and put out a request for volunteers. So I answered the call. I’ve never done it before and I’ll probably never do it again. It’s going to be a hassle but I volunteered. I had training yesterday (why I had to go to election HQ) and I have to be at my polling station at 5:30 am on Tuesday (and work until after 7:30 pm), not counting setup the night before. But fuck the Republicans, I’m going to do my part to help make their bullshit special election work for the people. Hopefully it will turn more people off from the Republican Party in general. 

[Ghost of LL 15531]