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  On 8/14/2024 at 4:13 AM, YGIFS said:

The language gets muddied because we frequently refer to numbered ballot propositions leading up to elections.  But it’s really just a short-handed system to track proposed creation, modification, or elimination of certain constitutional elements.  And even then, it the Leg would have to vote to codify most of them. And after that, our state SC can really go to work on them if they don’t like what we had to say.  
 

To your question, we do not have a direct ‘proposition’ mechanism like most other civilized states.  Unless, it’s a constitutional question, we can’t gather signatures to put on the ballot: “Prop 3 to overturn Abbott restrictions on abortion” or “Prop 7 to allow for legalized gambling and marijuana consumption” nor “Prop 12 to require any AG to disclose any conflict of interest including real estate deals.”

It would have been wild to see what would have happened if vouchers were put straight to the rural/exurban Texas who knew the score, coming together with urban voters.  But like most voters things here, we gotta do it the fucking hard, corrupt way. 

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It would have been on some odd year by-election in the middle of August where only weirdos would have voted.

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just going peachy here in texas

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As children in Texas, A and her sister were raped multiple times by their stepfather and his friends before she found she was pregnant earlier this year.

“We both had STDs because none of them used condoms,” A said. Their stepfather stopped sexually abusing them when he found out the sisters were treated at a clinic for sexually transmitted diseases. One of his friends did not.

The sisters fled to a domestic violence shelter when A found out she was pregnant, and managed from there to find abortion pills through a network of underground activists. “If I couldn’t have an abortion, I would have killed myself,” A said. “The man who raped me was a pig, and I did not want to have his baby inside of me.”

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/11/child-rape-survivors-abortion-ban

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  On 8/23/2024 at 5:02 AM, NorthLoop said:

Figured this would be the best place to put this. About 20 months ago, my wife had an ectopic pregnancy that almost killed her. She was having massive internal pains that she thought was from a pre-existing ovarian cyst situation that she'd dealt with for a number of years. She's a school nurse and her assistant called me to come get her because she had passed out at school. I took her to the ER and we found out that she was pregnant (what??) ... she went into emergency surgery and had it all removed, which was technically an abortion. She would've been dead within 48 hours from internal bleeding if we hadn't gone to the hospital. All well and good after that, but I didn't even think about the fact that it was technically an abortion. 

Flash forward to today, and even her own parents are still Trumpers. It's really really fucking hard for me to not just rip into them about it, but they are also our childcare when we need it and are for the most part really good grandparents. Meanwhile lots of her friends's friends that we know are all redneck trumpers too and it's so hard for me not to just go off on them about it but she doesn't want to advertise it. I really want her to just type up some long fuck you post on facebook between now and November to guilt trip all of those pieces of shit and basically tell them that they are voting for a system that would've forced her to die at home. I don't blame her if she doesn't because it was a traumatic experience but I hope she does. 

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I am angry for both of you. I’m so sorry you went through that.

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  On 8/23/2024 at 5:07 AM, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I am angry for both of you. I’m so sorry you went through that.

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What's funny is that at the time I wasn't angry because the hospital staff and nurses were all great and knew what to do, because it's not an uncommon thing. It was only later that I realized that this situation is now threatened by complete fucking imbeciles who have no idea what's at stake. 

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  On 8/23/2024 at 5:02 AM, NorthLoop said:

Figured this would be the best place to put this. About 20 months ago, my wife had an ectopic pregnancy that almost killed her. She was having massive internal pains that she thought was from a pre-existing ovarian cyst situation that she'd dealt with for a number of years. She's a school nurse and her assistant called me to come get her because she had passed out at school. I took her to the ER and we found out that she was pregnant (what??) ... she went into emergency surgery and had it all removed, which was technically an abortion. She would've been dead within 48 hours from internal bleeding if we hadn't gone to the hospital. All well and good after that, but I didn't even think about the fact that it was technically an abortion. 

Flash forward to today, and even her own parents are still Trumpers. It's really really fucking hard for me to not just rip into them about it, but they are also our childcare when we need it and are for the most part really good grandparents. Meanwhile lots of her friends's friends that we know are all redneck trumpers too and it's so hard for me not to just go off on them about it but she doesn't want to advertise it. I really want her to just type up some long fuck you post on facebook between now and November to guilt trip all of those pieces of shit and basically tell them that they are voting for a system that would've forced her to die at home. I don't blame her if she doesn't because it was a traumatic experience but I hope she does. 

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My wife had an ectopic and two miscarriages.  How did we have kids?  You guessed it: IVF.

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  On 8/23/2024 at 5:02 AM, NorthLoop said:

Figured this would be the best place to put this. About 20 months ago, my wife had an ectopic pregnancy that almost killed her. She was having massive internal pains that she thought was from a pre-existing ovarian cyst situation that she'd dealt with for a number of years. She's a school nurse and her assistant called me to come get her because she had passed out at school. I took her to the ER and we found out that she was pregnant (what??) ... she went into emergency surgery and had it all removed, which was technically an abortion. She would've been dead within 48 hours from internal bleeding if we hadn't gone to the hospital. All well and good after that, but I didn't even think about the fact that it was technically an abortion. 

Flash forward to today, and even her own parents are still Trumpers. It's really really fucking hard for me to not just rip into them about it, but they are also our childcare when we need it and are for the most part really good grandparents. Meanwhile lots of her friends's friends that we know are all redneck trumpers too and it's so hard for me not to just go off on them about it but she doesn't want to advertise it. I really want her to just type up some long fuck you post on facebook between now and November to guilt trip all of those pieces of shit and basically tell them that they are voting for a system that would've forced her to die at home. I don't blame her if she doesn't because it was a traumatic experience but I hope she does. 

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You're a better man than me.  

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  On 8/23/2024 at 5:02 AM, NorthLoop said:

Figured this would be the best place to put this. About 20 months ago, my wife had an ectopic pregnancy that almost killed her. She was having massive internal pains that she thought was from a pre-existing ovarian cyst situation that she'd dealt with for a number of years. She's a school nurse and her assistant called me to come get her because she had passed out at school. I took her to the ER and we found out that she was pregnant (what??) ... she went into emergency surgery and had it all removed, which was technically an abortion. She would've been dead within 48 hours from internal bleeding if we hadn't gone to the hospital. All well and good after that, but I didn't even think about the fact that it was technically an abortion. 

Flash forward to today, and even her own parents are still Trumpers. It's really really fucking hard for me to not just rip into them about it, but they are also our childcare when we need it and are for the most part really good grandparents. Meanwhile lots of her friends's friends that we know are all redneck trumpers too and it's so hard for me not to just go off on them about it but she doesn't want to advertise it. I really want her to just type up some long fuck you post on facebook between now and November to guilt trip all of those pieces of shit and basically tell them that they are voting for a system that would've forced her to die at home. I don't blame her if she doesn't because it was a traumatic experience but I hope she does. 

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Wishing you and your family well. I’ve had my siblings and parents hijacked by MAGA and it sucks because rational discussions can never take place. My brother is a police officer who says Jan 6 was a peaceful protest and that it was Pelosi’s fault there wasn’t more security. It baffles my mind he thinks this way about people who were clearly abusing police officers just like how your in laws promote a man who advocates for policies that could have killed your wife. 

I’m glad your in laws are able to provide excellent child care and I hope they continue to do so without teaching your children backwards logic and/or putting nonsense beliefs in their heads, politics or anything else that is an important life lesson. 

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  On 8/24/2024 at 3:34 AM, MrBig said:

My brother is a police officer who says Jan 6 was a peaceful protest and that it was Pelosi’s fault there wasn’t more security.

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It's nuts that the lie about Pelosi's responsibility can't be debunked.  The Speaker does not sit on the Capitol Police Board, nor do they have authority over the Board or the election of the Board members.  It's just a bald-faced lie that will not go away.

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Arkansas Touts 'Pro Life' Stance But Faces High Maternal, Infant Mortality

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/08/27/arkansas-maternal-mortality-rate-abortion-ban/

https://archive.ph/8zoOw

This state calls itself the ‘most pro-life.’ But moms there keep dying.

Giving birth in Arkansas, especially its rural southeast, comes with more risk and less care. The challenges feel acute for someone like doula Hajime White. 
 

WARREN, Ark. — The pregnant teen had already picked out a name for her baby, already felt him kick, which made the sight of blood in her underwear all the more frightening as she was getting ready for bed that fall night.

Her mother, Ronica Lawson, called for an ambulance to take them to the hospital five minutes away. As the sirens blared and the EMTs tried to reassure 15-year-old Sa’Ryiah Lincoln, bad news crackled out of the radio. Head to the next county, the EMTs were told. The local hospital no longer delivered babies.

In a state that touts itself as “the most pro-life state in the country,” where abortion is prohibited except to save the life of the mother, timber country in southeast Arkansas is an especially dangerous place to give birth.

Arkansas already has one of the nation’s worst maternal mortality rates, and mothers in this area die at a rate exceeding the state average. Ninety-two percent of recent maternal deaths were preventable, a state review committee found.

In November, two hospitals in the region abruptly closed their birthing units, sending patients like Sa’Ryiah scrambling to find a new obstetrician. And now she was in an ambulance at midnight, speeding through dark pine forests on a tense half-hour trip to a bigger hospital. Doctors were able to get her stabilized and eventually sent her home.

With a ride that long, “anything could have happened,” said Hajime White, one of the teen’s doulas. “When hospitals are turning you away and you have to go on to the next one, any complication can develop whether you’re in an ambulance or not. You’re putting the mother at risk and the baby at risk.”

Since Arkansas banned nearly all abortions after Roe v. Wade was overturned in 2022, doctors and others have sounded the alarm on what they say is a deepening crisis in maternal health. They point to other markers, too, particularly the state’s very high rates of teen pregnancy, infant mortality and food insecurity.

“If we really say to the world we’re pro-life, we need to put our money where our mouth is and make sure these women are treated and have the care they need,” said Republican state Rep. Aaron Pilkington, an abortion opponent who has led a push for legislation and funding to improve outcomes.

This spring, facing pressure from business leaders and the medical community, Republican Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders launched an initiative to address maternal health, an issue that she acknowledged “we’ve ignored for far too long.” Yet she declined to support extending Medicaid postpartum coverage to a year from 60 days, saying the state’s existing insurance system was enough. Arkansas will soon be one of only two states not adopting such coverage.

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Though teen birth rates are falling nationally, federal data shows the statistic for Arkansas is almost twice the U.S. average. Lack of access to contraception is a major factor; the rate at which teens in Arkansas have unprotected sex is 75 percent higher, according to a report from the nonprofit Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families.

Lawmakers generally have made it harder for teens to get birth control, the advocacy group’s report noted. School-based clinics need parental consent and can’t use state funds to provide contraceptives. The state does not require sex education in schools — if taught, lessons must stress abstinence — but an hour of adoption awareness instruction is mandated for grades six through 12. Topics to be covered include “the reasons adoption is preferable to abortion.”

In a recent public forum, when a moderator raised the “controversial” topic of sex ed, Arkansas’ education secretary, Jacob Oliva, replied that the state will be reviewing its health education standards. “Are they robust?” he said. “Are they doing a good job?” He said about 600 teen moms are in Arkansas schools every year. “Is that a number or metric we think is too high or too low? Those are some of the questions we need to ask.”

Last summer was when Sa’Ryiah began spending a lot of time outside with other kids — particularly one teen boy — in her neighborhood of drab public housing duplexes. Her mother noticed and was determined to get her a long-acting contraceptive implant, but said she could not find a doctor locally to do the procedure. She finally took Sa’Ryiah to Little Rock — 180 miles round-trip. At a hospital there, she learned that her daughter was already seven weeks pregnant.

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With an infant tucked under one arm, the governor in March signed an “Executive Order to Support Moms, Protect Babies and Improve Maternal Health.” E.O. 24-03 hailed Arkansas as “the most pro-life state in the country.” Sanders’s administration has embraced that distinction since Americans United for Life, an antiabortion group based in Washington, first bestowed the title three years ago. Its rankings reflect “states’ protection of life from conception to natural death,” with a strong focus on abortion.

Arkansas has taken some measures aimed at improving maternal health, planning a midwife certification program at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences and requiring Medicaid to cover long-acting contraception for postpartum mothers.

Other efforts have lagged. Officials hoped to have hospitals throughout the state run home-visit programs for at-risk mothers. Only four have been approved, with one expected to launch before the year ends.

While Sanders didn’t endorse expanded postpartum coverage through Medicaid, she has said she wants to do a better job of educating women before and after giving birth about existing resources and insurance options.

“The solution is not more government programs. The solution is getting women to take advantage of the programs we already have,” she said in issuing her directive. Advocates worry that her overall focus on cutting taxes signals that she may not be willing to fund any significant projects associated with reproductive health. A special panel is expected to give Sanders its recommendations next month.

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Just as Sanders unveiled her maternal health-care plan, Sa’Ryiah’s blood pressure was rising. The teen was still days from her due date, but her doctor decided to induce because of her risk of developing preeclampsia, a condition that can lead to serious, even fatal complications.

Baby Kaydence slipped into the world at 4:59 p.m. on March 7 — 7 pounds, 4 ounces, with a full head of hair.

At the hospital — the bigger one in Monticello — the nurses held him up, still covered in blood and amniotic fluid. “So slimy,” Sa’Ryiah thought. She wasn’t sure if she wanted to hold him. Later, though, after they cleaned him and laid him on her chest, she cried.

Kaydence’s safe arrival was the first real victory for White after a year of disappointments and grief.

The previous winter, a Warren woman named Megan Patterson died shortly after having her fifth child. Patterson, 32, had experienced swelling that persisted after she went home from the hospital.

“She should never have been discharged,” said her mother, Patsy Newton. The death certificate listed acute respiratory failure, with obesity and heart and chronic kidney disease as contributing factors. Officials at the facility where she gave birth, now called Baptist Health Medical Center-Drew County, declined to comment.

White hadn’t been involved in Patterson’s prenatal care. Even so, she was devastated by her death. In tears, she called her mentor at the organization where she’d trained as a doula.

“I boohooed,” she said. “I felt helpless. I wish somebody would have reached out to me and I might could have helped her. Maybe she would have still been here.”

Obstetrician Kara Worley, who has worked at each of the local hospitals that shuttered their delivery units, says women such as Patterson require complex care.

“I can’t remember the last time I had a patient come in healthy, young, with no medical problems and have a baby and go home,” Worley said. Those she sees routinely suffer chronic health problems, from heart conditions and undiagnosed diabetes to morbid obesity. She says change will take generations.

Worley and reproductive health advocates believe the state’s abortion ban has hurt hospitals’ ability to recruit and retain obstetricians at a time when the number of facilities delivering babies has dropped from 39 in 2020 to 35 today. Nearly half of the counties in Arkansas now lack a hospital or birth center offering obstetric care.

“From where I stand, [lawmakers] haven’t done anything except make it harder to care for the patient,” she said, recounting a case in which she was required to do unnecessary testing that delayed treatment. The patient had an ectopic pregnancy — which ruptured and required emergency surgery, she said.

At the 25-bed Bradley County Medical Center, chief executive Leslie Huitt closed the delivery unit after it dwindled to just one full-time family practice obstetrician.A study showed that the unit was losing $1 million annually. No state aid was available, Huitt said, and she found no partners to apply for a federal grant.

The decision was all the more painful since Huitt had given birth to her three children there.

“Maternal care in Arkansas is starting to be a hot topic,” she said this spring. “But we couldn’t get the attention and help we needed fast enough to save us. Ultimately it was a question of do we want an OB unit, or do we want a hospital at all?”

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“It feels like tumbleweeds are coming through town,” White said. “When things you grew up with and are familiar with leave in the blink of an eye, it’s almost like a death.”

At the baby shower and graduation ceremony, White filled a community room at the housing authority with purple and white balloons. The mayor and several reproductive health advocates came, and White counted 22 adults and little ones by the end. Though some of the moms who’d promised to attend were absent, White considered the event a success.

Not long after, she stopped by Lawson’s to check on Sa’Ryiah and the baby. The last few weeks had not been easy on the new mom. When Kaydence cried, she cried. Gwen had come more than once to try to calm them both and teach Sa’Ryiah how to properly swaddle.

White cooed over the infant and then gave Sa’Ryiah two small glass jars. They held the remnants of her placenta, which the doula had dried, ground into a powder and packed into capsules — a practice of traditional medicine that some believe has health benefits for mother and baby.

“Now you have your show-and-tell,” she told the astonished teen.

Sa’Ryiah was about to head back to high school, and that was making her anxious. She did not want to leave Kaydence behind and was worried she would again be singled out and bullied. She’d kept up remotely with her schoolwork — World History, English, Survey of Business and a test prep class — and her mother was determined she would graduate. “She’s walking that stage,” Lawson said.

“Don’t let the baby be a hinder to finishing it,” White told her. She had gotten her diploma after becoming pregnant, she said. So had Gwen. “Before you know it, it will be time for you to graduate.”

As it turned out, Sa’Ryiah would not be the only new mom. At her school of about 500 students, the principal said, 12 were pregnant or had just had a baby.

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  On 8/24/2024 at 3:34 AM, MrBig said:

Wishing you and your family well. I’ve had my siblings and parents hijacked by MAGA and it sucks because rational discussions can never take place. My brother is a police officer who says Jan 6 was a peaceful protest and that it was Pelosi’s fault there wasn’t more security. It baffles my mind he thinks this way about people who were clearly abusing police officers just like how your in laws promote a man who advocates for policies that could have killed your wife. 

I’m glad your in laws are able to provide excellent child care and I hope they continue to do so without teaching your children backwards logic and/or putting nonsense beliefs in their heads, politics or anything else that is an important life lesson. 

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Brother is a massive idiot. 

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  On 5/22/2024 at 3:58 PM, Sawbonz said:

Isn’t supervision and provision of the delivery of mail the exclusively within the purview of the federal government? Seems like that is pretty explicitly laid out in the constitution

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Art. I, s. 8, cl. 7:  The Congress shall have Power  . . . To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

That has been held to impliedly reserve to Congress the power to create and regulate the mail.  How exclusively is not that clear.

More important may be Art. I, s. 8, cl. 3, the Interstate Commerce Clause: To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

That has been held to be pretty exclusive in the form of the "Dormant Commerce Clause," which generally holds that state legislation may not interfere with or burden interstate commerce.

Also likely implicates Art. IV. s. 2, cl. 1 the Privileges and Immunities Clause:  The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

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  On 9/13/2024 at 1:44 AM, Macanudo said:

Johnny McEntee.   If Trump wins, he'll be in the White House with some kind of high ranking job.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McEntee_(political_aide)

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I don’t know who his counterpart would’ve been in the third Reich but he’ll be in charge of purging the Executive Branch of anyone who isn’t sufficiently loyal to Trump. 

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The right is pushing the “you can get an abortion any time” trope. My dumb fucking niece reposted a “gotcha” tiktok on it. She works for Daily Wire and I’ve chalked her up as a lost cause. Anyway - this narrative is heating up again and it’s disgusting.

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  On 9/13/2024 at 5:36 PM, Goofyboy said:

The right is pushing the “you can get an abortion any time” trope. My dumb fucking niece reposted a “gotcha” tiktok on it. She works for Daily Wire and I’ve chalked her up as a lost cause. Anyway - this narrative is heating up again and it’s disgusting.

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let me guess, also catholic? I'll take evangelical as my second guess

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  On 9/13/2024 at 5:44 PM, Longhorn_Fan68 said:
let me guess, also catholic? I'll take evangelical as my second guess

Second guess is the winner. Super white, evangelical holier than thou “Christian.” Think Instagram Christian with the performative pics / vid of them in their church.
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I've been meaning to ask the board;  does anybody have a clue what the fuck dotard is referencing when he blathers on about "executing the baby" and then keeps yelling "The Governor of Viriginia"? 

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  On 9/13/2024 at 6:20 PM, PenelopeWitherspoon said:
Your niece sucks.

Yep. It’s really unfortunate. Anyway - back to the forced birth people pushing bullshit narratives. That guy has 11,000 responses to his TikTok of women who have been through hell since the overturning of Roe
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  On 9/13/2024 at 5:57 PM, Goofyboy said:


Second guess is the winner. Super white, evangelical holier than thou “Christian.” Think Instagram Christian with the performative pics / vid of them in their church.

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Tell her to pull out her Bible and read Numbers 5:11-31. The Bible not only sanctions abortion, it instructs the rabbi how to cast the spell to perform one. 

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  On 9/14/2024 at 3:36 PM, miguelito said:

What does the niece think about this?  (assuming she thinks)

 

Abortions have risen slightly since Roe was overturned, study finds

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/abortions-have-risen-slightly-since-roe-was-overturned-study-finds

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But the narrative I saw yesterday says Florida abortions have dropped like 30%.  Nevermind that they probably stayed the same and just went out of state.

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This is simply enraging.  

https://www.propublica.org/article/georgia-abortion-ban-amber-thurman-death?fbclid=IwY2xjawFVnqJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHTvOGh_zzOaPWHoQypY5qvcRQ_XPT5FskBLEPizhbRbEmJqN-mP7Kqyorg_aem_uXC0oM9XD506siicK1w-Xw

 

In her final hours, Amber Nicole Thurman suffered from a grave infection that her suburban Atlanta hospital was well-equipped to treat.

She’d taken abortion pills and encountered a rare complication; she had not expelled all of the fetal tissue from her body. She showed up at Piedmont Henry Hospital in need of a routine procedure to clear it from her uterus, called a dilation and curettage, or D&C.

But just that summer, her state had made performing the procedure a felony, with few exceptions. Any doctor who violated the new Georgia law could be prosecuted and face up to a decade in prison.

Thurman waited in pain in a hospital bed, worried about what would happen to her 6-year-old son, as doctors monitored her infection spreading, her blood pressure sinking and her organs beginning to fail.

It took 20 hours for doctors to finally operate. By then, it was too late.

 

The otherwise healthy 28-year-old medical assistant, who had her sights set on nursing school, should not have died, an official state committee recently concluded.

Tasked with examining pregnancy-related deaths to improve maternal health, the experts, including 10 doctors, deemed hers “preventable” and said the hospital’s delay in performing the critical procedure had a “large” impact on her fatal outcome.

Their reviews of individual patient cases are not made public. But ProPublica obtained reports that confirm that at least two women have already died after they couldn’t access legal abortions and timely medical care in their state.

There are almost certainly others.

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  On 9/16/2024 at 11:50 PM, Sawbonz said:

Something is not right w this story. If there is no fetal heartbeat detected on US why could they not proceed with D&C? 

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Read the article.  Georgia only allows D & C's for spontaneous abortions or "medical emergency."  Because she admitted that it wasn't a spontaneous abortion, but that she had taken an abortion pill, Georgia law didn't allow the D & C.  Or at least that's how the physicians, who were risking jail time, interpreted Georgia's poorly written law on the subject.

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  On 9/17/2024 at 12:11 AM, lemonlime said:

Read the article.  Georgia only allows D & C's for spontaneous abortions or "medical emergency."  Because she admitted that it wasn't a spontaneous abortion, but that she had taken an abortion pill, Georgia law didn't allow the D & C.  Or at least that's how the physicians, who were risking jail time, interpreted Georgia's poorly written law on the subject.

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Once there is no heartbeat the D&C is not for an abortion, spontaneous or otherwise. Are you trying to tell me women aren’t getting routine D&C for abnormal uterine bleeding, polyps, endometrial hyperplasia, endometriosis, etc? I do not believe that

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  On 9/14/2024 at 3:36 PM, miguelito said:
What does the niece think about this?  (assuming she thinks)
 

Abortions have risen slightly since Roe was overturned, study finds

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/abortions-have-risen-slightly-since-roe-was-overturned-study-finds

She no longer thinks. Seriously - she works for the Daily Wire. I’ve quit communicating with her. She’s in the cult.
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