Official Thread for Abortion Demagoguery

[Anastasis 23471]

52 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

My favorite was "liberal daughters have worse mental health than conservative daughters."  What a miserable idiot.

That is not a direct quote, but the data are quite clear. 

[Anastasis 23471]

54 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

I pointed out a science based conclusion.

   

23 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

Science says overpopulation ought be culled.

 

Trust the science. Even when it sounds like straight up Nazi eugenicist shit.

Humans need to be culled. 

We actually understand what you are saying. 

[Bullneck 19262]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

 Trust the science. Even when it sounds like straight up Nazi eugenicist shit.

Humans need to be culled. 

We actually understand what you are saying. 

Quoted for posterity, just in case you sober up and realize you've tipped you hand to the world. 

[Anastasis 23471]

Just now, Bullneck said:

Quoted for posterity, just in case you sober up and realize you've tipped you hand to the world. 

You are a not very bright person. 

[Willfully Horn 8068]

12 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

   

 

Trust the science. Even when it sounds like straight up Nazi eugenicist shit.

Humans need to be culled. 

We actually understand what you are saying. 

Then you understand that the Methodist Church, the Episcopal Church (United States), the United Church of Christ, the Presbyterian Church (USA), and the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, all are supportive of the right to choose, you duplicitous, narcissistic, zealot. You understand the only mention of abortion in the Torah gives a husband the right to demand termination of a pregnancy, as well as the death of his spouse, if he claims his spouse was unfaithful, and that the New Testament is completely silent on the issue, despite the contemporaneous practice of abortion. And, you understand my own faith’s silence on the issue. Because it isn’t any of our business.

 

7 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

You are a not very bright person. 

Ironic post is ironic.

 

Edited yesterday at 03:36 AM by Willfully Horn

[Anastasis 23471]

3 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Then you understand that the Methodist Church, the Episcopal Church (United States), the United Church of Christ, the Presbyterian Church (USA), and the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, all are supportive of the right to choose, you duplicitous, narcissistic, zealot. You understand the only mention of abortion in the Torah gives a husband the right to demand termination of a pregnancy, as well as the death of his spouse, if he claims his spouse was unfaithful, and that the New Testament is completely silent on the issue, despite the contemporaneous practice of abortion. And, you understand my own faith’s silence on the issue. Because it isn’t any of our business.

Does all this make you feel better about yourself while you talk about culling human beings based on science. What a total clown show. It's amazing to me that I have to be the one that call this out. But unshocking that you got idiots like bullneck that can't even track the exchange. 

[Anastasis 23471]

It take more than a yard sign y'all. 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666560321000438

Abstract

Adolescent internalizing symptoms (e.g. depressive affect) have increased over the past decade in the US, particularly among girls. The reasons for these increases are unclear. We hypothesize that increasing exposure to politicized events has contributed to these trends in adolescent internalizing symptoms, and that effects may be differential by political beliefs and sociodemographic characteristics. We analyzed nationally-representative data from 2005 to 2018 Monitoring the Future annual cross-sectional samples of 12th-grade students (N = 86,138). We examined self-reported political beliefs, sex, and parental education as predictors of four internalizing symptom scales over time, including depressive affect. From 2005 to 2018, 19.8% of students identified as liberal and 18.1% identified as conservative, with little change over time. Depressive affect (DA) scores increased for all adolescents after 2010, but increases were most pronounced for female liberal adolescents (b for interaction = 0.17, 95% CI: 0.01, 0.32), and scores were highest overall for female liberal adolescents with low parental education (Mean DA 2010: 2.02, SD 0.81/2018: 2.75, SD 0.92). Findings were consistent across multiple internalizing symptoms outcomes. Trends in adolescent internalizing symptoms diverged by political beliefs, sex, and parental education over time, with female liberal adolescents experiencing the largest increases in depressive symptoms, especially in the context of demographic risk factors including parental education. These findings indicate a growing mental health disparity between adolescents who identify with certain political beliefs. It is therefore possible that the ideological lenses through which adolescents view the political climate differentially affect their mental wellbeing.

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2686]

If you don't believe a woman has greater rights than a fetus, there's something wrong with you. Simple. 

[Sawbonz 27706]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

and scores were highest overall for female liberal adolescents with low parental education (Mean DA 2010: 2.02, SD 0.81/2018: 2.75, SD 0.92

Liberal female adolescents with MAGA parents are depressed? GTFOH

[Willfully Horn 8068]

5 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Does all this make you feel better about yourself while you talk about culling human beings based on science. What a total clown show. It's amazing to me that I have to be the one that call this out. But unshocking that you got idiots like bullneck that can't even track the exchange. 

lol. Here’s a screenshot of the exchange.

 

 

Not being able to track conversation is your gift to the thread. Put the Moscovskaya back on Spec’s shelves. 

[Anastasis 23471]

23 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

Science says overpopulation ought be culled.

We get it. You can post all the screen shots you want. We understand exactly what you are saying. And exactly how totally depraved it is. 

[Anastasis 23471]

10 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Liberal female adolescents with MAGA parents are depressed? GTFOH

 

No way out of that looking glass, huh?

[Sawbonz 27706]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

 

No way out of that looking glass, huh?

What?

[Anastasis 23471]

Just now, Sawbonz said:

What?

Re-read the abstract. 

[Sawbonz 27706]

Just now, Anastasis said:

Re-read the abstract. 

Why would I read the abstract of a self reported retrospective cohort study of psychosocial bullshit?

I do agree that if I were a liberal teenage girl with MAGA parents I would likely want to eat a bullet 

[hobbes2702 13085]

11 hours ago, Anastasis said:

I mean y'all do understand why your girls in particular have more mental health problems compared to conservatives, right? 

Absolute piece of shit.

[Anastasis 23471]

In this house we believe in science. Unless the conclusions are unfortunate. 

[hobbes2702 13085]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

In this house we believe in science. Unless the conclusions are unfortunate. 

You should drink less. 

[Willfully Horn 8068]

15 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

We get it. You can post all the screen shots you want. We understand exactly what you are saying. And exactly how totally depraved it is. 

OK, Zealot the Moron, keep on rolling. Keep those anti-depressants out of the reach of your kids. Their genetics imply that stuff will scramble their brains.

[Willfully Horn 8068]

10 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

In this house we believe in science. Unless the conclusions are unfortunate. 

[Anastasis 23471]

14 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Why would I read the abstract of a self reported retrospective cohort study of psychosocial bullshit?

I do agree that if I were a liberal teenage girl with MAGA parents I would likely want to eat a bullet 

You should drop that in a letter to the editor, or just go straight to the corresponding author. Be sure to post the response of either here for the lulz. 

[Sawbonz 27706]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

You should drop that in a letter to the editor, or just go straight to the corresponding author. Be sure to post the response of either here for the lulz. 

Why would I want to do either?

[Anastasis 23471]

4 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Why would I want to do either?

To help clear up your misunderstandings. 

 

I get it. I am miserable idiot cause I say some real shit that y'all don't want to hear. LOLOLOL.jpg. 

 

But when you put your head down on that pillow and close your eyes, you know it's real talk and you are instinctively happy that someone is saying it. That is your inner conservative talking.  

 

[hobbes2702 13085]

5 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

To help clear up your misunderstandings. 

 

I get it. I am miserable idiot cause I say some real shit that y'all don't want to hear. LOLOLOL.jpg. 

 

But when you put your head down on that pillow and close your eyes, you know it's real talk and you are instinctively happy that someone is saying it. That is your inner conservative talking.  

 

You’re a miserable idiot because you post drunken screeds all day Thanksgiving, full of nonsense like this.

Edited yesterday at 04:41 AM by hobbes2702

[Sawbonz 27706]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

To help clear up your misunderstandings 

 

What level of evidence do you think that article is?

[Anastasis 23471]

1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

What level of evidence do you think that article is?

I can post tens of others that show the same thing. Come on man. You don't have to tilt against what you are seeing with your own eyes. 

[Sawbonz 27706]

Just now, Anastasis said:

I can post tens of others that show the same thing. Come on man. You don't have to tilt against what you are seeing with your own eyes. 

What level of evidence is the one you posted?

[Anastasis 23471]

7 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

You’re a miserable idiot because you post drunken screeds all day Thanksgiving full of nonsense like this.

 

[workswithseed 2121]

3 hours ago, Bullneck said:

Uh, because you vote for people who enact laws that make horrible things happen to women.

Now: were you able to read and understand that?  

I didn't vote. How many times have I told you that? 

Your own words turned on you here. 

[wildcat09 29447]

One thing I think is pretty clear from yesterday’s lively discussion is that Ana definitely doesn’t need therapy.

[elfenix 34364]

12 hours ago, Anastasis said:

   

 

Trust the science. Even when it sounds like straight up Nazi eugenicist shit.

Humans need to be culled. 

We actually understand what you are saying. 

 black women having agency is racist eugenics

--anastasis

[elfenix 34364]

On 12/13/2021 at 11:48 PM, Anastasis said:

Eugenicists gonna eugenics.   

Banger

 

Context:

Edited 14 hours ago by elfenix

[royiv 9402]

2 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

One thing I think is pretty clear from yesterday’s lively discussion is that Ana definitely doesn’t need therapy.

And that his family doesn’t want to spend time with him based on how much time he spent posting yesterday.

[Anastasis 23471]

4 minutes ago, elfenix said:

Banger

Still not as good though as “science says humans should be culled.”

[elfenix 34364]

22 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Still not as good though as “science says humans should be culled.”

Try reading for comprehension next time

[StassneyHorn 6673]

I tried to save Thanksgiving but y’all are postings links that start with “We hypothesize” with no scientific conclusion and saying humans should be culled. 
 

My grandpa would’ve made you eat outside with the the other piglets 

[workswithseed 2121]

33 minutes ago, elfenix said:

Try reading for comprehension next time

"Overpopulation should be culled." With the killing of human children inside the womb. I'm not seeing how one is supposed to read it any other way. 

[elfenix 34364]

15 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

"Overpopulation should be culled." With the killing of human children inside the womb. I'm not seeing how one is supposed to read it any other way. 

He's lampooning Anastasis, not advocating for culling humanity. This is really not hard to follow along unless you're a sealion.

[956 Worldwide 34864]

I’m in favor of reducing overpopulation by extending equal rights to women, putting every girl in school, ending forced and childhood marriages, expanding equal access to women’s health and birth control, and removing barriers to women in the workplace.  This One Simple Trick of letting women and girls choose their own lives will bring your birthrate down. It also makes your society a much nicer place to hang around in. 
 

We will absolutely struggle with short term effects of navigating a graying world but we also have a duty to the living creatures we share the planet with to not destroy our only common home. 
 

The main problem is that the absolute worst people from every creed, race, and nation are united in their loathing of a world where women get a say in how many babies they have because their actual ideology is completely unattractive so all they have is reproduction. 

[mchookem 16426]

it's pretty simple really... some people don't trust women to make their own decisions regarding their bodies, their family, their life, and their personal well being. i

i cannot be trusted, therefore my personal agency must be controlled and limited by men.

 

 

[Sawbonz 27706]

1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

extending equal rights to women, putting every girl in school, ending forced and childhood marriages, expanding equal access to women’s health and birth control, and removing barriers to women in the workplace

I hope you aren’t subjecting anyone IRL to such political brain damage 

[956 Worldwide 34864]

Regardless of where you stand on this issue, Ana’s schtick here is so disingenuous.  A bunch of people opposed to Texas’ law warned that it would have serious and dangerous consequences beyond its stated intent.  
 

The law passed, we see those consequences in real life and Ana’s response is:

”Those consequences are a result of misapplication of the law and none of you assholes are serious about fixing this law you didn’t want in the first place (and which is only being misinterpreted anyway so it doesn’t really need fixing).”

Such utter horseshit. 

[Horn Dog 9970]

16 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Re-read the abstract. 

Just curious did you read past the abstract and actually read the article?

Spoiler

Adolescents in the 2010's endured a series of significant political events that may have influenced their mental health. The first Black president, Democrat Barack Obama, was elected to office in 2008, during which time the Great Recession crippled the US economy (Mukunda, 2018), widened income inequality (Kochhar & Fry, 2014), and exacerbated the student debt crisis (Stiglitz, 2013). The following year, Republicans took control of the Congress and then, in 2014, of the Senate. Just two years later, Republican Donald Trump was elected to office, appointing a conservative supreme court and deeply polarizing the nation through erratic leadership (Abeshouse, 2019). Throughout this period, war, climate change (O’brien, Selboe, & Hayward, 2018), school shootings (Witt, 2019), structural racism (Worland, 2020), police violence against Black people (Obasogie, 2020), pervasive sexism and sexual assault (Morrison-Beedy & Grove, 2018), and rampant socioeconomic inequality (Kochhar & Cilluffo, 2018) became unavoidable features of political discourse. In response, youth movementspromoting direct action and political change emerged in the face of inaction by policymakers to address critical issues (Fisher & Nasrin, 2021; Haenschen & Tedesco, 2020). Liberal adolescents may have therefore experienced alienation within a growing conservative political climate such that their mental health suffered in comparison to that of their conservative peers whose hegemonic views were flourishing. This is particularly true for less privileged groups of liberals, including girls and low SES individuals, for whom both heightened awareness and experience of conservative actions to restrict their rights may have compounded emotional distress.

There is also potential for overlap in how politicized events impact adolescents. Broad-reaching phenomena, such as worsening climate change or school shootings may impact mental health for all adolescents, while social injustices like sexism, which gained media attention through the #MeToo movement, may be felt most acutely by those personally affected

Among the most socially privileged group, male adolescents with highly educated parents, conservative ideology may work as a psychological buffer by harmonizing an idealized worldview with the bleak external realities experienced by many (Jost et al., 2008). This group presumably benefits from the American cultural myth of an equal playing fieldin which exceptional social positions are thought to be earned through hard-work and talent rather than inherited through codified privilege (Turner, 1960). Among underprivileged groups, such as those without a parental college degree, especially Black female adolescents, conservatism alone was not protective for mental health. This pattern is consistent with other evidence indicating that adherence to conservative ideology may be less beneficial for disadvantaged individuals who are potentially less inclined to interpret their own experiences of inequality as systemic in nature versus resulting from personal inadequacy 

 

 

So in conclusion:

1.  Society is becoming more progressively more conservative with more fucked up things happening to poor women and minorities and as a result, those who are part of those being directly affected or give a shit about the world around them and want less shitty things like school shootings and extreme weather feel more mental stress and those who dont give a shit.

2. Rich, white conservatives, especially males, tend to not really give a shit about bad things happened to others, since it doesn’t effect them directly, so feel less mental stress than those who are affected or give a shit.

3.  If you are  poor or not a member of the privileged group, then being conservative offers no protection at all against feeling increased mental stress.

 

That article is one hell of a flex!

[Anastasis 23471]

1 hour ago, Horn Dog said:

Just curious did you read past the abstract and actually read the article?

The results tables tell the tale. 

1 hour ago, Horn Dog said:

So in conclusion:

Character count in the discussion section:hypothesis testing ratio trending to infinity.  

[Anastasis 23471]

5 hours ago, elfenix said:

He's lampooning Anastasis, not advocating for culling humanity.

  

20 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

I pointed out a science based conclusion.

Advocating culling the population is not a science-based conclusion. 

[Willfully Horn 8068]

5 hours ago, workswithseed said:

"Overpopulation should be culled." With the killing of human children inside the womb. I'm not seeing how one is supposed to read it any other way. 

I am not claiming science has the last word on morality. I was mocking  @Anastasis, who implied that it did. 
 

Showing his ass may be why he wants to shoehorn another topic into this thread.

 

[Anastasis 23471]

Just now, Willfully Horn said:

Showing his ass may be why he wants to shoehorn another topic into this thread.

What topic did I shoehorn into this exchange?

[Willfully Horn 8068]

3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

  

Advocating culling the population is not a science-based conclusion. 

The Chinese gave it a go.

[Willfully Horn 8068]

3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

What topic did I shoehorn into this exchange?

The notion that children of progressives are more likely to have mental health issues.

Edited 7 hours ago by Willfully Horn

[elfenix 34364]

5 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

  

Advocating culling the population is not a science-based conclusion.