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Bama Chick
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No. Fuck off with that. Not every abortion is about trauma and tragedy and using that framing plays into the christofascist’s hands. Women are humans. Humans have bodily autonomy. Ergo, women have b

Brisketexan
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I do love this argument. I really do. It’s as convenient a way to label yourself a drooling moron as exists, outside of towing around a giant neon “I’M A MORON” sign. No, they didn’t teach us that

hayden_horn
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of course you do. thing is, i would support that. if they choose that. and the real thing is, i'm actually pro life. both my sons were very premature, and had they been born in the 80s, they

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8 hours ago, notre dame joe said:

People love it when the taxes sent to Washington are returned in really small amounts.  

Did what?  read the constitution?

 

there too many wrong in this ramble to list them all, lowlights include.

 

- the history as god theory.  Saying the present has to follow the perceived path of the past is just another abortion of circular logic.   Case in point, the Germans would say History has long marched towards national socialism and all individuals must fall in liiiiiine.

- But that is not even the history of American law.  Power has been flowing to the government from the people for over 100 years.  Take any limitation on federal power and try to say it hasn't been diluted: interstate commerce means non-commercial activity that remains in state.  Freedom of association means punishment for association.  Freedom of speech outside of 5 million exceptions etc. 

 

- "we think that only relates to matters revolving around sex (contraception, buttfucking, gay marriage)." [abortion, cross-dressing, transomething]  Well YOU think that.  Did you ever notice the only place Ds care about individual rights is the genitals? 

Damn this was a poorly formatted post.  Negged.  

Not negged for content or ideology.  Negged because of the weird spacing and Italics and stuff.  

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1 minute ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

Sorry if this was already addressed, but are there clauses in any state laws that allow a forced miscarriage if the husband is the jealous type? 

I mean, the OId Testament in Numbers 5 gives instructions for how a jealous husband can force a cheating wife to miscarry lol. I'd imagine they'd listen to that more than they would some flimsy law of man

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Over the weekend, I had conversations with the Macanudo-ettes about abortion.   I advised them that IF there was a worry about being pregnant, that they should talk to me.   There was not going to be anger or sermonizing about what happened but what our options are.   And it's not as simple as go to the doctor and get a pregnancy test.   We might trust the doc but what about their staff?   With this witch hunt state law, we'll have people informing on each other like East Germans did to the Stasi.  

WTF?

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As an aside, I'm surprised that trigger laws are constitutional.  Effectively legislatures are placing these future laws into effect outside of their own legislature terms. Do we want an elected body from a decade ago effectively enacting laws today?

I understand that lawmakers can say today that a hypothetical law takes effect in 5 years but the trigger laws obviously trigger off a future event that may or may not occur. IMHO, its a weird and undemocratic way to govern.

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""The Democrats and their friends in the traditional media want us to focus on this, and now on the Roe v. Wade decision, instead of dealing with life," Mastriano told the right-wing news outlet. "And most people in this country are concerned about inflation, gas prices, food not on the shelves, baby formula, and just on and on. So this is all a distraction.""

https://www.businessinsider.com/pennsylvania-doug-mastriano-calles-roe-v-wade-ruling-a-distraction-2022-6

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Repeatedly trolling and inflicting unwelcome, ignorant, medieval, bullshit views about controlling women and what they can do with their bodies on a University of Texas message board looks out of place too, but that doesn't seem to stop you. 

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8 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

It's a good thing I don't worship him like the people on the right do their orange god.

People will still defend him though regardless. The bar needs to be set higher than simply not being Trump or some GOP dipshit. Ffs can we get someone better than Joe "I beat the socialist" Biden in office? Like someone else pointed out the Overton window In this country is so right wing it's fucking crazy. 

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22 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

I negged your previous post because it was so dumb it made my head hurt. This post is arguably opinion. Knock yourself out formatting, t-shirt..

I don't know if he adheres to that standard at the Husker, Sooner, etc boards where he also posts, but if I'm posting fictional accounts from novels, movies, etc I use italics but prefer quotes for interviews.

Once the midterms are over and Roe v Wade is nixed nationwide, I'm sure when SCOTUS overturns affirmative action next year after having gotten rid of the other cases justice Thomas mentioned, we'll just have the witch burnings and black plague left.

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9 hours ago, Captainant said:

I mean, the OId Testament in Numbers 5 gives instructions for how a jealous husband can force a cheating wife to miscarry lol. I'd imagine they'd listen to that more than they would some flimsy law of man

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On 6/25/2022 at 8:28 AM, MissingInAction said:

Anyone else encounter any anti-vax cunts comparing the right to choose to their own dumb fuckery? 

Closest I’ve got are female libertarians who spent the last couple years vociferously bitching about their lost freedoms with mask mandates suddenly realizing what no shit lost freedoms are.

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1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Pete should read the FDA approved label from Jan 2016.

Wtf is your point? I read the label from 2019.

Literally the first line of the black box of warnings: "WARNING: SEVERE TOXIC REACTIONS, INCLUDING EMBRYO-
FETAL TOXICITY AND DEATH"

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Willfully Horn

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45 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

And what then?

And then RA advances until a woman goes through menopause, I suppose. Or, if SCOTUS hasn’t imposed more Catholic doctrine upon our free to obey the pope (or some other monarch) country, the patient can have her tubes tied. 
 

More immoral feculence from the sick certainty sect.

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21 hours ago, immamac said:

It's almost like ole Joe is a huge piece of shit politician, who would have thought! 

Joe is and has been wrong the entire time on this, but this isn't Joe Bidens fault. 

Nothing is ever his fault. Not one fucking thing. Dude is immune from criticism. 

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1 hour ago, Horn Dog said:

Just wait till all the upper class republican family teenage girls can't get their Accutane anymore for their acne!    

Thought about this one yesterday. They'll still be able to get it, but they'll have to carry the pregnancy of a baby with severe birth defects when they get pregnant. Or, you know, they're hypocritical parents will take them to a state where abortion is safe and legal.

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Crazy how the christofascist states are already using the Roe reversal to chip away at other rights. I'm sure [mention=205]fattyflattie[/mention] is vewwwwy concerned
https://www.axios.com/2022/06/28/alabama-roe-supreme-court-block-trans-health-care
 

Note- Plan B is a contraceptive and not some abortion pill. 

All of this - and much, much more - is inevitable. Buckle up, this is just the beginning.
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8 hours ago, trauma babe said:

Wtf is your point? I read the label from 2019.

Literally the first line of the black box of warnings: "WARNING: SEVERE TOXIC REACTIONS, INCLUDING EMBRYO-
FETAL TOXICITY AND DEATH"

That MTX has always been contraindicated for treatment of RA among pregnant women and had certain restrictions in place for use in women of child bearing age (as well as their partners). MTX has not been discontinued nor has the FDA revised the approved indications or warnings. 

CONTRAINDICATIONS

Methotrexate can cause fetal death or teratogenic effects when administered to a pregnant woman. Methotrexate is contraindicated in pregnant women with psoriasis or rheumatoid arthritis and should be used in the treatment of neoplastic diseases only when the potential benefit outweighs the risk to the fetus. Women of childbearing potential should not be started on methotrexate until pregnancy is excluded and should be fully counseled on the serious risk to the fetus (See PRECAUTIONS) should they become pregnant while undergoing treatment. Pregnancy should be avoided if either partner is receiving methotrexate; during and for a minimum of three months after therapy for male patients, and during and for at least one ovulatory cycle after therapy for female patients. (See Boxed WARNINGS.)

 

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1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

That MTX has always been contraindicated for treatment of RA among pregnant women and had certain restrictions in place for use in women of child bearing age (as well as their partners). MTX has not been discontinued nor has the FDA revised the approved indications or warnings. 

CONTRAINDICATIONS

Methotrexate can cause fetal death or teratogenic effects when administered to a pregnant woman. Methotrexate is contraindicated in pregnant women with psoriasis or rheumatoid arthritis and should be used in the treatment of neoplastic diseases only when the potential benefit outweighs the risk to the fetus. Women of childbearing potential should not be started on methotrexate until pregnancy is excluded and should be fully counseled on the serious risk to the fetus (See PRECAUTIONS) should they become pregnant while undergoing treatment. Pregnancy should be avoided if either partner is receiving methotrexate; during and for a minimum of three months after therapy for male patients, and during and for at least one ovulatory cycle after therapy for female patients. (See Boxed WARNINGS.)

 

As a reminder, here's what the tweet said:

"Methotrexate, which apparently can cause abortions, being DISCONTINUED for RA & Lupus patients that are able to conceive is CRUEL since it's such an effective treatment."

Other posters are free to make up their own minds whether Ana can't read or was being disingenuous. 

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4 hours ago, Horn Dog said:

Just wait till all the upper class republican family teenage girls can't get their Accutane anymore for their acne!    

Accutane is another interesting example. It comes with a REMS program that requires use of two forms of birth control and documentation of serial negative pregnancy tests prior to initiation. Further the requirement for ongoing monthly pregnancy tests prior to each dispensing. 

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1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

As a reminder, here's what the tweet said:

"Methotrexate, which apparently can cause abortions, being DISCONTINUED for RA & Lupus patients that are able to conceive is CRUEL since it's such an effective treatment."

Other posters are free to make up their own minds whether Ana can't read or was being disingenuous. 

I think that would fall under "and had certain restrictions in place for use in women of child bearing age (as well as their partners)".

 

 

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