Joe Biden 2021

[DonkeyCigars 143]

3 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Yes you only troll here. The only difference now is for some reason you have switched from being a reasonable sounding troll to just being an asshole. Maybe you want to get crowd banned. Hell if I know your dumbass goals here. 

You’ve finally lost your marbles. I’m hardly being unreasonable here; you are throwing out accusations (racist, troll) at me while in the same breath displaying yourself to be a troll who cohorts with racists on your day off and on holiday— something I would never intentionally do. 

I guess you are just being a glaring reminder of our favorite CR preamble: every accusation is always a confession. And you are obviously feeling chatty.

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[hobbes2702 13054]

6 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

It’s called every accusation is a confession and it’s totally obvious. It’s just what they do. 

He’s not wrong about FDR being a fascist but I doubt he realizes the history behind how the criticism came about. It wasn’t internment that started that criticism 

[DonkeyCigars 143]

7 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Yes the current nanny state for corporations we live in because of RR is working out great.

The fact is, Joe Biden is closer to RR than FDR, if we are to judge men not by what they say, but do. I can live with that for the next few years; can you?

[Brian Fantana 6690]

Just now, DonkeyCigars said:

The fact is, Joe Biden is closer to RR than FDR, if we are to judge men not by what they say, but do. I can live with that for the next few years; can you?

That doesn't actually address what I said in any way, shape, or form.

[JimmyJames 12271]

3 minutes ago, DonkeyCigars said:

You’ve finally lost your marbles. I’m hardly being unreasonable here; you are throwing out accusations (racist, troll) at me while in the same breath displaying yourself to be a troll who cohorts with racists on your day off and on holiday— something I would never intentionally do. 

I guess you are just being a glaring reminder of our favorite CR preamble: every accusation is always a confession. And you are obviously feeling chatty.

Dude. Your fake persona is a trump supporter which by definition makes you a racist. I live in Texas so on occasion I’m gonna run into trump supporters like yourself who are by definition racist. Can’t be helped. I would like for people like you to not exist but it it what it is.

[DonkeyCigars 143]

7 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

That doesn't actually address what I said in any way, shape, or form.

I was anchoring back to the thread title, but sure, okay— you have a problem with the technocracy we live in today and that large monied corporations have large, monied influence on the government. I don’t disagree but I also don’t think it’s as egregious as I think you do. I don’t believe the influence to be outsized and/or worse than the alternative which is a nanny state that taxes everyone to the gills for a modicum of improvement that will continue to need to be fed, as it will never be self-supporting. Reasonable people can jdisagree on the devil we know versus the devil we don’t, I guess.

So answer the question; do you disagree and is it something you can comfortably or happily live with?

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[DonkeyCigars 143]

3 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Dude. Your fake persona is a trump supporter which by definition makes you a racist. I live in Texas so on occasion I’m gonna run into trump supporters like yourself who are by definition racist. Can’t be helped. I would like for people like you to not exist but it it what it is.

Disregarding everything you said prior to the bold because I disagree with your basic logic and premise: Are you asking someone to “rid you of meddlesome priests”, as it were, or just wishing everyone thought and believed as you do?

Edited July 6, 2021 by DonkeyCigars

[JimmyJames 12271]

Just now, DonkeyCigars said:

Are you asking someone to rid you of meddlesome priests or just wishing everyone thought and believed as you do?

No I wish trump supporting racists like yourself would either go away by moving somewhere else or get smart enough to figure out that they’re being manipulated and wise the fuck up. Probably not gonna happen I do realize. 

[Brian Fantana 6690]

1 minute ago, DonkeyCigars said:

I was anchoring back to the thread title, but sure, okay— you have a problem with the technocracy we live in today and that large monied corporations have large, monied influence on the government. I don’t disagree but I also don’t think it’s as egregious as I think you do. I don’t believe the influence to be outsized and/or worse than the alternative which is a nanny state that taxes everyone to the gills for a modicum of improvement that will continue to need to be fed, as it will never be self-supporting. Reasonable people can disagree on the devil we know versus the devil we don’t, I guess.

The fact that you think A) corporate influence on our governance is not egregious, and B) that the only alternative is an FDR-style nanny state really exposes how fucking stupid you are. Stop looking at the world in black and white for once in your life.

[Gatorubet 30290]

Yakima Nation makes some money selling those fireworks out here.

Yakima? Is Minor’s Drive In still there?

[DonkeyCigars 143]

Just now, Brian Fantana said:

The fact that you think A) corporate influence on our governance is not egregious, and B) that the only alternative is an FDR-style nanny state really exposes how fucking stupid you are. Stop looking at the world in black and white for once in your life.

Okay, fair enough, I’m pretty dim-witted. So, what do you think? 

[Neonmoon 38130]

The biggest nanny state we have is the fucking military. I’m sure Republicans will be reversing that soon. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

Just now, DonkeyCigars said:

Okay, fair enough, I’m pretty dim-witted. So, what do you think? 

Troll response. Always asking questions. 

[DonkeyCigars 143]

Just now, JimmyJames said:

Troll response. Always asking questions. 

I’ve been answering questions. For some reason everyone wants answers but never want to answer themselves.

[Brian Fantana 6690]

11 minutes ago, DonkeyCigars said:

Okay, fair enough, I’m pretty dim-witted. So, what do you think? 

The nanny state we live in serves only corporations, gives them egregiously undue influence over this country's governance, and effectively elevates them above the law. Personally, I'd rather have a "nanny state" that uses our tax dollars to fund CRAZY shit like universal healthcare (which every fucking first world country in the world has except us) instead of using it to line the pockets of the corporate friends of our lawmakers and funding multi-trillion dollar do-nothing "wars".

I know, it's a fucking bizarre take.

Edit: I wish I didn't feel the need to re-iterate this, but your hero RR is largely responsible for this.

Edited July 6, 2021 by Brian Fantana

[DonkeyCigars 143]

4 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

The biggest nanny state we have is the fucking military. I’m sure Republicans will be reversing that soon. 

I agree, but I think one of the reasons it’s valued (on the whole) by one party versus the other is that historically one party has folks with a lot to lose if something were to happen.

[DonkeyCigars 143]

10 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

The corporate nanny state we live in serves only corporations, gives them egregiously undue influence over this country's governance, and effectively elevates them above the law. Personally, I'd rather have a "nanny state" that uses our tax dollars to fund CRAZY shit like universal healthcare (which every fucking first world country in the world has except us) instead of using it to line the pockets of the corporate friends of our lawmakers and funding multi-trillion dollar do-nothing "wars".

I know, it's a fucking bizarre take.

First, I don’t believe as you do that with we live in a country who only egregiously serves corporations and corporate men. I’d rather err on the side of lower government and more individualism and control of my labor and income, then being coerced into an even more inefficient system that funds things that run the spectrum from foolish-but-harmless all the way to what I would characterize as morally repugnant and evil.

Besides, we have no better business case of socialism never working than the Surfside incident. People aren’t inherently altruistic.

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[Brian Fantana 6690]

Yeah, I'm done here. Go fuck yourself.

[DonkeyCigars 143]

20 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Yeah, I'm done here. Go fuck yourself.

Fair enough then, and I hope you are self-aware enough to never call anyone else a snowflake ever again.

[Bama Chick 28596]

I find it hilarious that the men here keep getting caught in Donkey’s bullshittery.

Us gals read his “faux nice dumb guy to mask hateful aggression” act and had him pegged.

Women have been brushing off assholes like that for safety since our teen years so I guess our radar for men like Donkey is better honed.

[workswithseed 2110]

1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

Yakima? Is Minor’s Drive In still there?

Yes it is, went there last year. It's pretty fun good.

[DonkeyCigars 143]

8 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I find it hilarious that the men here keep getting caught in Donkey’s bullshittery.

Us gals read his “faux nice dumb guy to mask hateful aggression” act and had him pegged.

Women have been brushing off assholes like that for safety since our teen years so I guess our radar for men like Donkey is better honed.

This is an insane line of reasoning; I don't think I've ever cared to address or communicate with you or any of the other 3 or 4 "gals" that purport to be female and post on here. But somehow I'm playing coy to deceive you and hatefully be aggressive to you? Get real, please.

Edited July 6, 2021 by DonkeyCigars

[workswithseed 2110]

59 minutes ago, DonkeyCigars said:

First, I don’t believe as you do that with we live in a country who only egregiously serves corporations and corporate men. I’d rather err on the side of lower government and more individualism and control of my labor and income, then being coerced into an even more inefficient system that funds things that run the spectrum from foolish-but-harmless all the way to what I would characterize as morally repugnant and evil.

Besides, we have no better business case of socialism never working than the Surfside incident. People aren’t inherently altruistic.

What's the link between the Surfside incident and socialism?

[workswithseed 2110]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

The biggest nanny state we have is the fucking military. I’m sure Republicans will be reversing that soon. 

Truth, it needs to go away. 

[DonkeyCigars 143]

17 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

What's the link between the Surfside incident and socialism?

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Think of condo associations as like small-scale socialism. You all have ownership stock in this thing. You make decisions about it. You have the board, which is kind of like the Politburo. No, really, it is socialism. And the thing about socialism is that when you collectively own something, you collectively make a decision about it. Well, some of those decisions are going to be very hard.

My belief is people are not inherently altruistic and when it comes to making tough economic decisions about allocation of personal or shared resources in a world of scarcity, there will naturally be conflict. That conflict can be managed through a centrally planned power (communism) or it can meet the lowest common denominator of consensus (in the surfside case, this was inaction) which is always going to be an inferior overall situation for particular individuals of means and capabilities, but perhaps a better minimum for the group than would be for the worst individual, otherwise.

https://slate.com/business/2021/06/miami-condo-collapse-florida-building-industry-crisis.html

In other words, it's your classic utilitarianism vs libertarianism. You know, basic freshman year stuff.

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[Brian Fantana 6690]

37 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I find it hilarious that the men here keep getting caught in Donkey’s bullshittery.

Us gals read his “faux nice dumb guy to mask hateful aggression” act and had him pegged.

Women have been brushing off assholes like that for safety since our teen years so I guess our radar for men like Donkey is better honed.

He just became the first user on my ignore list. I can't be fucked.

[jimmyjazz 46094]

1 hour ago, DonkeyCigars said:

I agree,

No, you don't.

[HenryJames 66160]

46 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

and had him pegged.

[dcar00 14344]

4 hours ago, immamac said:

I thought this was the Joe Biden thread. 

well yeah but its not really fun to talk ill of the dead.

[Beau Vine 54381]

Congrats again to Joe Biden for building the greatest economy the world has ever seen!

 

[Biff Tannen 45712]

1 hour ago, Bama Chick said:

and had him pegged.

Phrasing 

[staboner 4984]

forget it marge, its tahoehorn

[Pato del Muerto 52571]

2 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

I find it hilarious that the men here keep getting caught in Donkey’s bullshittery.

Us gals read his “faux nice dumb guy to mask hateful aggression” act and had him pegged.

Women have been brushing off assholes like that for safety since our teen years so I guess our radar for men like Donkey is better honed.

Yeah if there’s one thing women are known for, it’s the ability from a young age to identify and steer clear of the wrong type of guy. 

[safe sex 11746]

You seemed to take that really personally.

[workswithseed 2110]

6 minutes ago, trauma babe said:

You seemed to take that really personally.

He might have some trauma, babe.

[Fudge Nuggets 19211]

14 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

Where did you get that from the article you posted and I commented on?  

As an aside, here is the original source (the IMF) for the article you posted:

https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2021/07/01/na070121-boosting-the-economy-the-impact-of-us-government-spending-plans

 

 

First of all, I didn't post an article but my last snark was in reference to this comment from you; especially the bolded part:

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TLDR: Growth is good in times of deflationary headwinds present since the 70's.

We have not been in deflationary headwinds since the 70's.  The 80's and 90's saw some decent enough economic expansion.  I realize a sizeable contingent of the surl is unaware of any events that may have taken place prior to the mid 2000's but they did in fact happen. 

Although I was in elementary school at the time I can still remember my old man bitching about interest rates.  Early 1980's saw them peak at 16.39% and they averaged a smidge under 10% for the entire decade.  Does that sound like deflation? 

The 1990's saw interest rates pretty consistent around 5% which is probably a good little sweet spot; again not deflationary and that was a decade that saw the largest peacetime economic expansion in the country's history... deflation / schmeflation.

We have been fighting deflation since the housing market crash for sure and I am of the opinion the potential for deflation has been around since the dot com crash.  But to say we've been fighting deflationary headwinds since the 1970's is dumb.

[DigglerontheHoof 21212]

9 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

I find it hilarious that the men here keep getting caught in Donkey’s bullshittery.

Us gals read his “faux nice dumb guy to mask hateful aggression” act and had him pegged.

Women have been brushing off assholes like that for safety since our teen years so I guess our radar for men like Donkey is better honed.

Why I have him on ignore.  He's worse than the idiots who march w/ the Proud Boys and KKK.  At least with them, they're out front about their racism.  Racists like donkey, hide behind niceties and awe shucks.   Dude needs his ass kicked, is what he needs. 

[David Dennison 18945]

12 hours ago, DonkeyCigars said:

First, I don’t believe as you do that with we live in a country who only egregiously serves corporations and corporate men. I’d rather err on the side of lower government and more individualism and control of my labor and income, then being coerced into an even more inefficient system that funds things that run the spectrum from foolish-but-harmless all the way to what I would characterize as morally repugnant and evil.

Besides, we have no better business case of socialism never working than the Surfside incident. People aren’t inherently altruistic.

That must be why corporations pay their fair share of federal taxes and why we have a robust public option.

Wait.

[Gatorubet 30290]

forget it marge, its tahoehorn

[Pato del Muerto 52571]

“It’s not me, it’s you” is an interesting tack. 

[DonkeyCigars 143]

53 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

That must be why corporations pay their fair share of federal taxes and why we have a robust public option.

Wait.

Corporations pay in compliance to what is legally allowed. Tax evasion is illegal; tax avoidance isn't.

But yes, let's talk about about how government controlling business is awesome. Didi the ride sharing app (down 20-30% today?) probably has an opinion about that. As does Tencent and Ant Group

Edited July 6, 2021 by DonkeyCigars

[Captainant 27727]

20 minutes ago, DonkeyCigars said:

Corporations pay in compliance to what is legally allowed. Tax evasion is illegal; tax avoidance isn't.

But yes, let's talk about about how government controlling business is awesome. Didi the ride sharing app (down 20-30% today?) probably has an opinion about that. As does Tencent and Ant Group

Lmao, tell us more how we're just communist CHYNA and how any regulation is a slippery slope towards that. I'm sure the residents in Surfside agree that all regulation is just BUSINESS KILLING COMMUNISM - at least the ones who didn't get crushed to death in a shoddily built high rise thanks to Florida's lax building codes.

Fuck that noise that corporations "pay their fair share" because they comply with legal requirements. Bitch, who do you think wrote the legal requirements? Have you not been paying attention to the ramifications of citizens united and the broad regulatory capture that has defined the American economy for the last couple decades?

[Longhorn_Fan68 33887]

8 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Lmao, tell us more how we're just communist CHYNA and how any regulation is a slippery slope towards that. I'm sure the residents in Surfside agree that all regulation is just BUSINESS KILLING COMMUNISM - at least the ones who didn't get crushed to death in a shoddily built high rise thanks to Florida's lax building codes.

Fuck that noise that corporations "pay their fair share" because they comply with legal requirements. Bitch, who do you think wrote the legal requirements? Have you not been paying attention to the ramifications of citizens united and the broad regulatory capture that has defined the American economy for the last couple decades?

you're arguing with a moron, troll, possibly both. it's better for your health if you just don't engage.

[Js1 85527]

Corporations are rich people and rich people don't pay their taxes if they're smart!

-Mitt Donald John Trump Romney Roberts

[Beau Vine 54381]

46 minutes ago, DonkeyCigars said:

But yes, let's talk about about how government controlling business is awesome. Didi the ride sharing app (down 20-30% today?) probably has an opinion about that. As does Tencent and Ant Group

 

[DonkeyCigars 143]

18 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

 

I don't think that makes the point you think it's making. I, too, like the status quo and think this is good.

Here is our shared poem:

Keep same; no change

Hit records, banks gain.

Celebrate daily, ignore the ire

As Centrist Biden tends the fire

[DonkeyCigars 143]

40 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Corporations are rich people and rich people don't pay their taxes if they're smart!

-Mitt Donald John Trump Romney Roberts

Well that tears it. You can blaspheme Ronald Reagan all you want, but I will not sit here and let you bad mouth Mitt Romney. Every Bainie and every one from a Bainie coaching tree from Manny M. to back office support staff owe their livelihoods to that gallant man. If it weren't for his leadership, and yes personal investments along with some other key shareholders, during our darkest hour-- we would all have come out of it worse for the wear and a joke of what once was-- like Accenture or something gross like that.

[washparkhorn 9939]

4 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

We have not been in deflationary headwinds since the 70's. 

We are speaking to each other in different languages. Good luck. 

[Bullneck 19201]

15 hours ago, DonkeyCigars said:

The fact is, Joe Biden is closer to RR than FDR, if we are to judge men not by what they say, but do. I can live with that for the next few years; can you?

U R Dum

[elfenix 34331]

TIL a private corporation is socialism