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Just now, hornmpa96 said:

To move this back to policy, someone sell me on why Medicare should cover vision, dental and hearing.

Is it worth the cost or should it be on the chopping block?

Because vision, dental, and hearing are important to a person's health, and extraordinarily detrimental to their abilities to work if they are left to deteriorate without treatment? That's all I got, unless you're being sarcastic.

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4 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Because vision, dental, and hearing are important to a person's health, and extraordinarily detrimental to their abilities to work if they are left to deteriorate without treatment? That's all I got, unless you're being sarcastic.

I don’t think of Medicare being used by working people. After posting my random thoughts, I read an article on Forbes that mentioned the comparison to Medicare Advantage plans which contain these benefits. This would make traditional Medicare more competitive with those plans which could be a benefit. Ultimately it would likely result in premium increases for the beneficiaries.

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10 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Because vision, dental, and hearing are important to a person's health, and extraordinarily detrimental to their abilities to work if they are left to deteriorate without treatment? That's all I got, unless you're being sarcastic.

Well, Medicare is ostensibly for those 65 and older, and thus retired.

Also, generally speaking, those things are not crippling expenses.

To some extent, I would prefer not expanding Medicare benefits until something is done about expanding coverage.

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10 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, Medicare is ostensibly for those 65 and older, and thus retired.

Also, generally speaking, those things are not crippling expenses.

To some extent, I would prefer not expanding Medicare benefits until something is done about expanding coverage.

A ton of people can't exactly retire at 65 these days. And I guess in my view it's a good thing regardless of work status. I can't think of a reason to say your vision, dental, and hearing just aren't that important.

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4 hours ago, Js1 said:

69-30 passage. Nice 

Republicans understand that the infrastructure bill is viewed as something that finally addresses the needs of little people. Working and middle class people can actually see their tax dollars working for them. The human infrastructure bill is seen in a similar light.

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1 hour ago, Satchel said:

Republicans understand that the infrastructure bill is viewed as something that finally addresses the needs of little people. Working and middle class people can actually see their tax dollars working for them. The human infrastructure bill is seen in a similar light.

Respectfully, I don’t think you saw what he did there.

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Dems aren’t getting the 3.5 T bill through, the Rs did a easy # on them, they pass the 1 T snd will scream about how 3.5T is too much and socialism. 
They agreed to a smaller one so they can say see we did something.

Dems should have gone big or go home 

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7 hours ago, 'stache said:

A ton of people can't exactly retire at 65 these days. And I guess in my view it's a good thing regardless of work status. I can't think of a reason to say your vision, dental, and hearing just aren't that important.

I don’t know if this has been negotiated out the 3.5 trillion bill just yet:

The draft emerging from Sanders’ committee goes further and would expand Medicare by lowering the eligibility age from 65 to 60, and offer added benefits such as hearing aids and dental care for seniors, which are among his longtime priorities. Democrats would help pay for the plan with a prescription drug pricing overhaul. 

They also expect to raise revenue by allowing some immigrants to apply for a path to legal status and citizenship.

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-medicare-immigration-business-government-and-politics-06e658b07a41ebb9d55647f905ebd2b7

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Just received the following email - guessing this was triggered by the bill getting passed...?  

 

 I am Mr. Mike Hanssen writing on behalf of Antony Blinken, United States Secretary of State. This is to inform you officially that after our investigations with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and other Security Agencies in the Country for this year beginning 2021, we discovered that you have not received your funds. I have made it my first point of call since taking office to settle all Outstanding Payments accrued to Individuals or Corporations with respect to local and overseas contract payment, Debt Rescheduling and Outstanding Compensation payment. This is to make sure all Outstanding payments are settled this fiscal year 2021. On Behalf of the entire staff of the U.S.

Department of State and the United Nations in collaboration with World Bank, we apologize for the delay of your contract payment, Winning or Inheritance funds from the United States and all the inconveniences you encountered while pursuing this payment.However, from the records of outstanding beneficiaries due for payment with the U.S Secretary of State, your name was discovered as next on the list of the outstanding payment who has not yet received their payments. Note that from the record in my file, your outstanding contract payment is ( $15,500,000 Million Five Hundred Thousand Dollars) loaded in an ATM Visa Card that allows you to make a daily maximum withdrawal limit of $20,000 TWENTY Thousand Dollars)

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Mike Hanssen

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U.S Department of State

2201 C Street NW

Washington, DC 20521.

 

Seems legit, though the Apple gift card for the $150 fee makes me a little suspicious.  And a $15,000,000 ATM card seems odd.

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(Assuming both Fat Man and Little Boy of the Invest in America Act both pass the house).

With the American Rescue Plan Act, What is the Biden’s collective legislation being called? Who gets naming rights? FDR had the New Deal, LBJ had the Great Society, Biden has the New Start? The Great Reset? 

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(Assuming both Fat Man and Little Boy of the Invest in America Act both pass the house).
With the American Rescue Plan Act, What is the Biden’s collective legislation being called? Who gets naming rights? FDR had the New Deal, LBJ had the Great Society, Biden has the New Start? The Great Reset? 
A New Start. I like that. Would look good on a license plate.
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7 hours ago, landman said:

Just received the following email - guessing this was triggered by the bill getting passed...?  

 

 I am Mr. Mike Hanssen writing on behalf of Antony Blinken, United States Secretary of State. This is to inform you officially that after our investigations with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and other Security Agencies in the Country for this year beginning 2021, we discovered that you have not received your funds. I have made it my first point of call since taking office to settle all Outstanding Payments accrued to Individuals or Corporations with respect to local and overseas contract payment, Debt Rescheduling and Outstanding Compensation payment. This is to make sure all Outstanding payments are settled this fiscal year 2021. On Behalf of the entire staff of the U.S.

Department of State and the United Nations in collaboration with World Bank, we apologize for the delay of your contract payment, Winning or Inheritance funds from the United States and all the inconveniences you encountered while pursuing this payment.However, from the records of outstanding beneficiaries due for payment with the U.S Secretary of State, your name was discovered as next on the list of the outstanding payment who has not yet received their payments. Note that from the record in my file, your outstanding contract payment is ( $15,500,000 Million Five Hundred Thousand Dollars) loaded in an ATM Visa Card that allows you to make a daily maximum withdrawal limit of $20,000 TWENTY Thousand Dollars)

I have your file here in my office and it says that you are yet to receive your fund valued at ( $15,500,000 Million Five Hundred Thousand Dollars) This Funds will now be delivered to your designated address or your preferred payment option.

We have perfected all modules on how to bring this fund to your house without any problem, but be aware that United Nations and the United States Government has only authorized my office to release the Sum of ( $15,500,000 Million ) to you as true beneficiary of the Fund.that United Nations and the United States Government has only authorized my office to release the Sum of ( $15,500,000 Million ) to you as true beneficiary of the Fund.

Note that your loaded ATM Visa Card will be sent to you through Priority Mail Express (USPS) to your designated address immediately you admit full compliance to this email.

NOTE: Every documentation proof for your fund has been packaged and sealed to be sent together with your Visa Card to your address.

Therefore, the only obligation required of you by the laws of the Government of United States and the financial Monetary Policy of the Supreme Court, states that; you as a beneficiary must officially obtain the irrevocable LEGAL STAY OF PROCEED from the Supreme Court of USA, as a means to justify the legitimacy, transparency and clean bill of funds from USA so that by the time your funds gets to you, no authority will question the funds as it has been legally certified free from all financial Malpractices and facets. The LEGAL STAY OF PROCEED is valued at a cost of just ($150USD)and has been packaged and sealed to be sent together with your Visa Card to your address.  Send Via Western Union or Money Gram But if you cannot be able to send through Western Union or Money Gram use the $150 usd to buy Apple gift Card and send,After you make the payment, then kindly attach a proof of your payment:As soon as the above-mentioned details are received, The LEGAL STAY OF PROCEED will be secured on your behalf immediately.

I need all the compliance that I can get from you to ensure we get this project accomplished. Personally, I am very sorry for the delay you have gone through in the past years. Thanks for adhering to these instructions which are meant for your sole benefit, once again accept my congratulations in advance.

Thanks for your cooperation as your quick response to this email notice with adherence to the above instructions is highly anticipated.

Yours Sincerely,

Mike Hanssen

forAntony Blinken

U.S Department of State

2201 C Street NW

Washington, DC 20521.

 

Seems legit, though the Apple gift card for the $150 fee makes me a little suspicious.  And a $15,000,000 ATM card seems odd.

Your so lucky.  I never get chosen for cool stuff like that.

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Here on the final day of the Biden presidency, since as we know the pillow guy has prophesied that tomorrow trump will be making his triumphant White House return, I would just like to congratulate old Joe Biden for in a mere seven months single handily creating the greatest economy in history.

The stock market, thanks to Joe, has never been higher. And as we surly one percenters all know as we carefully survey our vast stock portfolios, we can take comfort in the fact that our capital is taxed at a much lower rate than the labor we for some reason have to pay, and that we can realize those gains and pay taxes at the time of our choosing, as it should be, and this of course allows us job creators to trickle down the dollars we choose to trickle down. When and if we feel like doing so.

So thank you Joe for your brief service.  It was a good ride. But it’s now time for trump, his coke head son, a bunch of drunks, and a crackhead pillow guys to run the country again. 
 

America first!

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13 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Here on the final day of the Biden presidency, since as we know the pillow guy has prophesied that tomorrow trump will be making his triumphant White House return, I would just like to congratulate old Joe Biden for in a mere seven months single handily creating the greatest economy in history.

The stock market, thanks to Joe, has never been higher. And as we surly one percenters all know as we carefully survey our vast stock portfolios, we can take comfort in the fact that our capital is taxed at a much lower rate than the labor we for some reason have to pay, and that we can realize those gains and pay taxes at the time of our choosing, as it should be, and this of course allows us job creators to trickle down the dollars we choose to trickle down. When and if we feel like doing so.

So thank you Joe for your brief service.  It was a good ride. But it’s now time for trump, his coke head son, a bunch of drunks, and a crackhead pillow guys to run the country again. 
 

America first!

So tomorrow's the big day? I wonder what Billy and April think of all this.

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Trump does nothing for four years on Afghanistan other than talk about leaving, which emboldened the Taliban. He leaves office after accomplishing zero. Now Biden has to clean up the mess, and because the Democrats are such horrible communicators, everyone is going to blame him for the Afghan government implosion that has been all but certain for years. Sigh. 

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9 minutes ago, berlinerbaer said:

Naw. Americans still don't care about foreign policy for the most part. 

Well, he's not wrong.  I heard Dan von Bongo Vagina ranting about Biden's intelligence failures in Afghanistan last night.  It was if the last 4.5 years never happened, just the last 0.5 year.

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18 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

Trump does nothing for four years on Afghanistan other than talk about leaving, which emboldened the Taliban. He leaves office after accomplishing zero. Now Biden has to clean up the mess, and because the Democrats are such horrible communicators, everyone is going to blame him for the Afghan government implosion that has been all but certain for years. Sigh. 

True, but Biden had the personal experience and knowledge of learning from his own acts with this exact same thing with Iraq in 2010 that went just as bad as these are going now. Not surprisingly they are going exactly the same now. If nothing else, no one in the White House should have been surprised with what or how quickly it was going to happen.

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1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

Stay the course Joe.  F the haters. 

 

Dude was in the room every day from 09-16. Saw the clusterfuck up close. I support him on getting us out. I supported Trump wanting to get out too. Afghanistan is unwinnable - they don’t want to do the work themselves without us there.   We are bearing the costs for nothing  

 

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Stay the course Joe.  F the haters. 
 

Dude was in the room every day from 09-16. Saw the clusterfuck up close. I support him on getting us out. I supported Trump wanting to get out too. Afghanistan is unwinnable - they don’t want to do the work themselves without us there.   We are bearing the costs for nothing  
 

It’s a complicated issue but I think I end up here. This was always going to be the result when we left, whether under Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, or Camacho. The response to 9/11 never should’ve been a nation building project. Knowing that, just cut your losses and get out.

Leaving interpreters and others who cooperated is really inexcusable though.
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1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

"What's the win-state?" was never a question we even bothered to try to answer.

Because it's an irrelevant question once you understand the actual objective of our foreign policy. 

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On 8/14/2021 at 12:01 PM, Dbeasy said:

Trump does nothing for four years on Afghanistan other than talk about leaving, which emboldened the Taliban. He leaves office after accomplishing zero. Now Biden has to clean up the mess, and because the Democrats are such horrible communicators, everyone is going to blame him for the Afghan government implosion that has been all but certain for years. Sigh. 

Trump got bipartisan backlash for his proposed withdrawal. There is no anti-war party in America. 

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1 minute ago, lmao said:

Trump got bipartisan backlash for his proposed withdrawal. There is no anti-war party in America. 

Aided by a complicit media and intertwined intelligence community. The complex is much more involved than just the political apparatus. It doesn't even take a long view of history to appreciate it.  You have all witnessed enough data points during your own lifetime. At least in the distant past they were more up front about it and put on good chariot races.  

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22 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Because it's an irrelevant question once you understand the actual objective of our foreign policy. 

Ideally* we'd have a friendly puppet who keeps rigid control. We didn't even get THAT

 

* from the perspective of The Blob

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