Joe Biden 2021

[Js1 87224]

I’ll just say, democrats have been actively trading out low propensity WWC voters for high propensity suburban and college educated voters.  They turn out in midterms and culture wars about Dr Seuss don’t really resonate with them  

2010 was just the finishing of the shift of the WWC and rural vote to the GOP. 2018 was the beginning of the suburban realignment that didn’t change in 2020.  

[DonkeyCigars 143]

80% of GOP voters (poor people who vote against their interests, it can be argued) are getting a free $5k tomorrow with the stimmy and kid money. It will be interesting to see how they convince themselves Biden’s free money is bad.

Edited March 15, 2021 by DonkeyCigars

[Bruh Man 3160]

1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

One can hope.  I for one am skeptical, because the social issues du jour of the day will be blasted nonstop combined with traditional Democratic turnout during midterms = uncertainty.

One advantage to now vs the 2010 midterms:  the Tea Party shit started up in mid-February 2009.  In 2021, Team R is so disorganized and functionally fucked they can't even mount a cogent response to $1.9 trillion, other than to vote no.  If the Democratic Party can get through this calendar year without some kind of astroturf movement  full of soundbites against them that is overwhelming the message they want to spread, then the future will look a little brighter for November 2022.

 

Dems are on pace to be gerrymandered out of the majority in the House and have a 50/50 chance of losing the Senate (Warnock is fucked). Until they address this head on, I have zero hope for the midterms. 

[Js1 87224]

Doomercrats, until the end. No different from Texas basketball “fans.” Pick the worst outcome you can think of and that’s the one you will die believing to be the only true outcome. 

[washparkhorn 9974]

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

Doomercrats, until the end. Pick the worst outcome you can think of and that’s the one you will die believing to be the only true outcome. 

The nation needs them on that wall. The GQP unabashedly going full-time non-reality is quite craven compared to prior iterations of the sickness. 

[SydneyCarton 49520]

6 hours ago, Bruh Man said:

Dems are on pace to be gerrymandered out of the majority in the House and have a 50/50 chance of losing the Senate (Warnock is fucked). Until they address this head on, I have zero hope for the midterms. 

I skew pessimistic too. But why is Warnock fucked? Georgia is doing their best but Stacy Abrams is going to be on that ballot with him, and that should boost turnout. 

[GopherRock 1773]

 

9 hours ago, Bruh Man said:

Dems are on pace to be gerrymandered out of the majority in the House and have a 50/50 chance of losing the Senate (Warnock is fucked). Until they address this head on, I have zero hope for the midterms. 

Stacey Abrams and Rafael Warnock at the top of the bill in Georgia will keep African-American turnout very high, no matter what the rules are there come next fall.

[Buzzrock 15140]

Nothing feeble or sun downing about him. Fuck anyone who thinks otherwise. 

This is willful ignorance. If Biden had an R in front of his name we’d have 800 NYT editorials by now about “Can we afford to have this man with his finger on the nuclear button?”

And they would be right to be concerned.

You guys have let your loathing for Trump erase any objectivity. It’s not Biden’s fault that he’s old, and it’s not questioning his character to point it out.

[Buzzrock 15140]

 
One can hope.  I for one am skeptical, because the social issues du jour of the day will be blasted nonstop combined with traditional Democratic turnout during midterms = uncertainty.
One advantage to now vs the 2010 midterms:  the Tea Party shit started up in mid-February 2009.  In 2021, Team R is so disorganized and functionally fucked they can't even mount a cogent response to $1.9 trillion, other than to vote no.  If the Democratic Party can get through this calendar year without some kind of astroturf movement  full of soundbites against them that is overwhelming the message they want to spread, then the future will look a little brighter for November 2022.
 

The Democrats biggest ally in the midterms will be Trump. He’s going to primary anyone who he doesn’t like (Kemp for instance) and insure those like Abrams can win. He’s not going to stop until he turns every state blue.

A strong economy + covid recovery + vote buying is going to work. The Republicans have self-immolated and are still throwing gas on what’s left of the fire. Those who are hoping for a wall-to-wall blue nation should be feeling smug, and Republicans can thank themselves and Trump for all of it.

Slight chance that the D’s over-rotate on social justice issues but I don’t think it will matter.

[Biff Tannen 46192]

1 hour ago, Buzzrock said:

 

This is willful ignorance. If Biden had an R in front of his name we’d have 800 NYT editorials by now about “Can we afford to have this man with his finger on the nuclear button?”

And they would be right to be concerned.

You guys have let your loathing for Trump erase any objectivity. It’s not Biden’s fault that he’s old, and it’s not questioning his character to point it out.

 

Dude.  Let's say I give you that Biden may be showing signs of dementia.  I won't, because I have eyeballs, but let's just say I give you that.

He has surrounded himself with extremely competent people that actually have the country's interests at the forefront of their agendas.  I think we'll be ok.

[wildcat09 29597]

32 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

 

This is willful ignorance. If Biden had an R in front of his name we’d have 800 NYT editorials by now about “Can we afford to have this man with his finger on the nuclear button?”

And they would be right to be concerned.

You guys have let your loathing for Trump erase any objectivity. It’s not Biden’s fault that he’s old, and it’s not questioning his character to point it out.

 

We just had a President who very obviously suffered from dementia and nobody in the media gave a shit.

[alincoln 2391]

1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

We just had a President who very obviously suffered from dementia and nobody in the media gave a shit.

Pence would have tanked their ratings.  

[jimmyjazz 47263]

1 hour ago, Buzzrock said:

This is willful ignorance. If Biden had an R in front of his name we’d have 800 NYT editorials by now about “Can we afford to have this man with his finger on the nuclear button?”

And they would be right to be concerned.

That's completely untrue.  He isn't feeble, he has a stutter and he often pauses his speech in his attempts to control it.

Is his acuity the same as it was 30 years ago?  Most likely not, but we've had plenty of adept men and women his age in positions of high power.  It's a stupid right wing talking point that needs to go away.

[kevwun 16444]

Boring and effective.  I'll take it everyday of the week and twice on Sundays.

[Js1 87224]

1 hour ago, Buzzrock said:

 

This is willful ignorance. If Biden had an R in front of his name we’d have 800 NYT editorials by now about “Can we afford to have this man with his finger on the nuclear button?”

And they would be right to be concerned.

You guys have let your loathing for Trump erase any objectivity. It’s not Biden’s fault that he’s old, and it’s not questioning his character to point it out.

 

You're going to have to show your math on this being "ignorance."

Where did I fault him for being old?  He's not feeble, he's not sundowning, he doesn't have dementia.

He has a lifelong stutter and he's 78 years old - he's not as quick as he once was, but he's still pretty sharp for 78.  He did just fine going through a 25-person primary and a presidential campaign.  

 

 

Man, person, woman, camera, tv. 

[Buzzrock 15140]

Dude.  Let's say I give you that Biden may be showing signs of dementia.  I won't, because I have eyeballs, but let's just say I give you that.
He has surrounded himself with extremely competent people that actually have the country's interests at the forefront of their agendas.  I think we'll be ok.

You may very well be right, but that’s a completely different argument.

[Buzzrock 15140]

That's completely untrue.  He isn't feeble, he has a stutter and he often pauses his speech in his attempts to control it.
Is his acuity the same as it was 30 years ago?  Most likely not, but we've had plenty of adept men and women his age in positions of high power.  It's a stupid right wing talking point that needs to go away.

What’s untrue? It’s an opinion. I think the national press would be all over a R President who forgets where he is, forgets people’s names (that he should know), etc. somewhat regularly. That’s not a stutter (which is its own talking point).

Look I think Joe is an infinitely better human than our last president. But he’s not beyond criticism. He has had several moments during public appearances where he seemed pretty lost. Not stuttering. He’s had plenty of good moments too: I’m not saying he’s a drooling vegetable. But acting like it isn’t happening or chalking it all up to a stutter is disingenuous.

[Buzzrock 15140]

We just had a President who very obviously suffered from dementia and nobody in the media gave a shit.

That’s not true, but you know that.

https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+mental+state&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS749US749&oq=trump+mental+state&aqs=chrome..69i57.6549j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

[wildcat09 29597]

3 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

 

That’s not true, but you know that.

https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+mental+state&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS749US749&oq=trump+mental+state&aqs=chrome..69i57.6549j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

 

Funny, I'm not seeing 800 NYT editorials about Trump's obvious dementia.

[Buzzrock 15140]

“Obtuse. Is it deliberate?”

[GRHorn 105]

Are people really chalking up all the Biden gaffes to his stutter? The one he mastered his whole adult life, but is now resurfacing as his mental acuity diminishes? 
 

Anyway. We’ve moved up from kids in cages to kids in internment camps. Let’s keep waving them in. 

 

[mdmost 44100]

I know it's tough for you since you're so geared to look for a gotcha moment but the city and county of Dallas use the Convention Center all the time for housing people. Homeless when it's freezing. Houston flood victims. It was going to be used as a temporary hospital for Covid. It's a lot better than a hot South Texas border location for these same teens. 

Edited March 15, 2021 by mdmost

[GRHorn 105]

4 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I know it's tough for you since you're so geared to look for a gotcha moment but the city and county of Dallas use the Convention Center all the time for housing people. Homeless when it's freezing. Houston flood victims. It was going to be used as a temporary hospital for Covid. It's a lot better than a hot South Texas border location for these same teens. 

I like the name too. "Decompression Center".

[Dahobbs 18349]

1 hour ago, Buzzrock said:

 

What’s untrue? It’s an opinion. I think the national press would be all over a R President who forgets where he is, forgets people’s names (that he should know), etc. somewhat regularly. That’s not a stutter (which is its own talking point).

Look I think Joe is an infinitely better human than our last president. But he’s not beyond criticism. He has had several moments during public appearances where he seemed pretty lost. Not stuttering. He’s had plenty of good moments too: I’m not saying he’s a drooling vegetable. But acting like it isn’t happening or chalking it all up to a stutter is disingenuous.

 

Examples of those moments? The only ones I have seen talked about in the press were snippets taken out of context by right wing media. 

[Red Five 41769]

Wait, he regularly forgets where he is? That's a new one for me.

[Dahobbs 18349]

3 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Wait, he regularly forgets where he is? That's a new one for me.

People are saying it happens. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 34106]

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Wait, he regularly forgets where he is? That's a new one for me.

yeah, he's got a dick and he's white, so since they can't go with racism or misogyny, they go with ageism. again, deplorable was way too nice

[kevwun 16444]

If you edit videos of him speaking to remove every other word, it clearly proves he has memory issues.

[GRHorn 105]

11 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Examples of those moments? The only ones I have seen talked about in the press were snippets taken out of context by right wing media. 

 

[GRHorn 105]

6 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

yeah, he's got a dick and he's white, so since they can't go with racism or misogyny, they go with ageism. again, deplorable was way too nice

Ageism. Glad you could find one more ism to put out there. 

[Dahobbs 18349]

3 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

 

The horror. Can you imagine if 99.99999% of adults had experienced the exact same thing despite not having to speak in public constantly? Like, what if parents occasionally mixed up the name of their children? The world would be in chaos due to widespread dementia, obviously.  

[Js1 87224]

Did GRUhorn care when Trump would regularly call prominent people by the wrong name?  Somehow I doubt it. 

[GRHorn 105]

3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

The horror. Can you imagine if 99.99999% of adults had experienced the exact same thing despite not having to speak in public constantly? Like, what if parents occasionally mixed up the name of their children? The world would be in chaos due to widespread dementia, obviously.  

I really don’t understand the inability to admit that POTUS is not hitting on all cylinders. He already won. Why are you fighting the obvious?

[LurkingHorn 1093]

Do people seriously watch a video like that and get that freaked out about his mental state? That was a big nothing burger for me. 

[jimmyjazz 47263]

27 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Did GRUhorn care when Trump would regularly call prominent people by the wrong name?  Somehow I doubt it. 

Of course he didn't.  "Tim Apple", etc.  GRUhorn just keeps chugging along (key word "chugging").

[washparkhorn 9974]

6 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

If Biden had an R in front of his name we’d have 800 NYT editorials by now about “Can we afford to have this man with his finger on the nuclear button?” And they would be right to be concerned. You guys have let your loathing for Trump erase any objectivity. It’s not Biden’s fault that he’s old, and it’s not questioning his character to point it out.

I understand your point, but my guess is we are seeing more of a Reagan reaction - as in when the press overlooked Reagan's cognitive decline because his team was well-regarded by the establishment press. 

[aggie08 21841]

55 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Ageism. Glad you could find one more ism to put out there. 

Don't be greedy. You can't have all of them. Socialism, Marxism, Communism, Liberalism, Patriotism...careful, or I'll ask you to define them.

[gmr548 16703]

This is willful ignorance. If Biden had an R in front of his name we’d have 800 NYT editorials by now about “Can we afford to have this man with his finger on the nuclear button?”

And they would be right to be concerned.

You guys have let your loathing for Trump erase any objectivity. It’s not Biden’s fault that he’s old, and it’s not questioning his character to point it out.

Pooooorrrr aggy

[gmr548 16703]

What’s untrue? It’s an opinion. I think the national press would be all over a R President who forgets where he is, forgets people’s names (that he should know), etc. somewhat regularly. That’s not a stutter (which is its own talking point).

Look I think Joe is an infinitely better human than our last president. But he’s not beyond criticism. He has had several moments during public appearances where he seemed pretty lost. Not stuttering. He’s had plenty of good moments too: I’m not saying he’s a drooling vegetable. But acting like it isn’t happening or chalking it all up to a stutter is disingenuous.

No one cares given what just went on for four years and how the administration as a whole is governing. Losing talking point.

[hobbes2702 13498]

6 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

 

This is willful ignorance. If Biden had an R in front of his name we’d have 800 NYT editorials by now about “Can we afford to have this man with his finger on the nuclear button?”

And they would be right to be concerned.

You guys have let your loathing for Trump erase any objectivity. It’s not Biden’s fault that he’s old, and it’s not questioning his character to point it out.

 

This is absolute bullshit plain and simple.

[hobbes2702 13498]

1 hour ago, GRHorn said:

I really don’t understand the inability to admit that POTUS is not hitting on all cylinders. He already won. Why are you fighting the obvious?

Because it’s not true and you’re a fucking moron bitch boy. Go get the fucking donuts

[hobbes2702 13498]

23 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

I understand your point, but my guess is we are seeing more of a Reagan reaction - as in when the press overlooked Reagan's cognitive decline because his team was well-regarded by the establishment press. 

Except he actually had dementia and Biden doesn’t. 

[Js1 87224]

1 hour ago, GRHorn said:

I really don’t understand the inability to admit that POTUS is not hitting on all cylinders. He already won. Why are you fighting the obvious?

The onus is on you to prove your claims, and not with selectively edited, out of context videos you found on Twitter and amplified by the right wing outrage machine. 

[gmr548 16703]

I really don’t understand the inability to admit that POTUS is not hitting on all cylinders. He already won. Why are you fighting the obvious?

You’re goddamn right he won, and I salute you because I know you risk getting your Cult 45 card revoked by saying that. That 100-whatever year old can’t speak straight motherfucker won by 7,000,000 votes. 51 percent of the popular vote and governing with even higher approval. If he’s not hitting on all cylinders that’s really just an even harsher indictment of Trump his merry band of morons. So, I actually don’t know why you are fighting the obvious. You’ve been trying this for over a year at this point. Those election results and approval ratings should tell you pretty clearly that no one gives a fuck and it didn’t stick.

You clutch your pearls like old man’s up there shitting himself. Meanwhile, a comfortable majority of this nation is looking around thinking, “Fuck, this is so much better.” You lost to that shit. Didn’t just lose. You got electorally routed in contemporary terms. You know how fucking hard it is for a Republican to lose Georgia? The American people are overwhelmingly relieved to have this great grandpa in charge because of the astounding incompetence we all just collectively witnessed. And you’re throwing all self respect out the window trying to keep on fighting the good fight. I sincerely pity you.

[Dahobbs 18349]

1 hour ago, GRHorn said:

I really don’t understand the inability to admit that POTUS is not hitting on all cylinders. He already won. Why are you fighting the obvious?

I'm really don't understand the inability to understand that a verbal slip up or brainfart during public speaking is not evidence of a POTUS "not hitting on all cylinders." Although, ironically, your inability to do understand that point is probably evidence of some form of cognitive deficiency. 

I'm 37, in excellent health, and I've called my four-year son by my brother's name more than once. Dementia? I've also momentarily forgotten the name of a client, opposing counsel, and/or the occasional case I'm citing while speaking in court. Dementia? Or are these common things that pretty much everyone experiences, but few of us have to deal with them being on camera for public consumption?  

[GRHorn 105]

17 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

You’re goddamn right he won, and I salute you because I know you risk getting your Cult 45 card revoked by saying that. That 100-whatever year old can’t speak straight motherfucker won by 7,000,000 votes. 51 percent of the popular vote and governing with even higher approval. If he’s not hitting on all cylinders that’s really just an even harsher indictment of Trump his merry band of morons. So, I actually don’t know why you are fighting the obvious. You’ve been trying this for over a year at this point. Those election results and approval ratings should tell you pretty clearly that no one gives a fuck and it didn’t stick.

You clutch your pearls like old man’s up there shitting himself. Meanwhile, a comfortable majority of this nation is looking around thinking, “Fuck, this is so much better.” You lost to that shit. Didn’t just lose. You got electorally routed in contemporary terms. You know how fucking hard it is for a Republican to lose Georgia? The American people are overwhelmingly relieved to have this great grandpa in charge because of the astounding incompetence we all just collectively witnessed. And you’re throwing all self respect out the window trying to keep on fighting the good fight. I sincerely pity you.

I'm not in "Cult 45". Where have I referenced him at all? 

You're right that the nation doesn't care right now. Everyone is taking a breather.

I suspect the President's mental status will become an issue this term. I've even attempted to wager people here on that. No one willing to have skin in the game.

[hobbes2702 13498]

30 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

I'm not in "Cult 45". Where have I referenced him at all? 

You're right that the nation doesn't care right now. Everyone is taking a breather.

I suspect the President's mental status will become an issue this term. I've even attempted to wager people here on that. No one willing to have skin in the game.

You’re claiming it’s an issue now. Why would anyone bet with you when you’re dishonest 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

SMDH. So in a twenty minute presentation nominating two females to four-star command positions and one in which the President mentions Secretary Austin by name several times including how he refers to him occasionally as general (because that was his former position prior to becoming Secretary) a tweet by the former executive producer of Laura Ingraham's radio show has someone showing concern? Well, there's a surprise.

By the way, these two women rock. Kudos to them.

[Hank Scorpio 17924]

2 hours ago, Red Five said:

Wait, he regularly forgets where he is? That's a new one for me.

You sound like Joe. 

[YChang 3571]

53 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

I suspect the President's mental status will become an issue this term. I've even attempted to wager people here on that. No one willing to have skin in the game.

Sigh... I hate that I'm taking your bait, how about $100?