Joe Biden 2021

[Biff Tannen 45478]

1 hour ago, GRHorn said:

FIFY. 
 

Oh yeah, and if a recent IRS director says he has no idea how to spend that much money, you can be guaranteed that it will not just be “rich” people’s accounts being tracked.

In fact I haven’t actually seen the parameters of who they will want to track. It wasn’t in the Treasury guidance. 
 

Try again. 
 

I’ve never been a big fan of the police. Especially the Feds. Especially the Tax Man. 

First, by “they” I meant the people getting better education, jobs, and quality of life. Not the government getting more money. 
 

Second, this is what you really think?  The government wants to track your money so they can take more of it?  

[GRHorn 105]

4 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

First, by “they” I meant the people getting better education, jobs, and quality of life. Not the government getting more money. 
 

Second, this is what you really think?  The government wants to track your money so they can take more of it?  

Yes

And people on this forum think oh great IRS is going to get those rich tax dodgers, but this is the financial privacy version of mission creep. We just need more info on “rich” people’s finances. Oh wait, actually we need more info that’s slipping through our grasp. Oh wait, now the US government needs account statements on all Americans like they’re your freaking mortgage lender. Yes let’s give the government more power into people’s finances. JFC 
 

So shortsighted by people cheering this on. 

[Biff Tannen 45478]

10 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Yes

And people on this forum think oh great IRS is going to get those rich tax dodgers, but this is the financial privacy version of mission creep. We just need more info on “rich” people’s finances. Oh wait, actually we need more info that’s slipping through our grasp. Oh wait, now the US government needs account statements on all Americans like they’re your freaking mortgage lender. Yes let’s give the government more power into people’s finances. JFC 
 

So shortsighted by people cheering this on. 

You aren’t that important 

[GRHorn 105]

20 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

You aren’t that important 

What does this have to do with me?
 

I’m talking more systemic changes. Once the IRS can demand routine personal account statements directly from banks that’s not something that’s walked back. It will only get advanced in a bad way. This is pretty obvious. 

[Anastasis 23375]

2 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

Personally I think the solution should be anyone who makes more than 10 million dollars a year and personally donates a dime to any political candidate or PAC gets an automatic audit. 
 

I mean if you have done nothing wrong you’ve got nothing to worry about, right? And they can afford a simple audit where they’ve done nothing wrong no doubt.

Headpat.gif

 

You still don’t  understand how any of this works do you?

 

[TwiceHorn 31184]

19 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

What does this have to do with me?
 

I’m talking more systemic changes. Once the IRS can demand routine personal account statements directly from banks that’s not something that’s walked back. It will only get advanced in a bad way. This is pretty obvious. 

Dude. It's going to be a different kind of 1099 with a beginning and ending balance, or probably just a year-end balance like they do your IRAs already, and maybe reporting of transactions over a certain amount.  Financial institutions have been issuing 1099s for half a century at least.

Don't fuck around, you won't find out.

Edited May 1, 2021 by TwiceHorn

[DalTxHornFan 3084]

3 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

Personally I think the solution should be anyone who makes more than 10 million dollars a year and personally donates a dime to any political candidate or PAC gets an automatic audit. 
 

I mean if you have done nothing wrong you’ve got nothing to worry about, right? And they can afford a simple audit where they’ve done nothing wrong no doubt.

I truly hope that you simply left the /sarc tag off of this post.

[JimmyJames 12271]

12 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Headpat.gif

 

You still don’t  understand how any of this works do you?

 

Dude I was joking. 

[Willfully Horn 7913]

Does Joe have action pics of Cornyn with Duggar?

 

 

[Mole 4318]

That tweet is confusing. It sounds to me like he’s voicing support for Biden.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33825]

59 minutes ago, Mole said:

That tweet is confusing. It sounds to me like he’s voicing support for Biden.

I think the mushrooms on his steak were the wrong kind

[Bozo_Casanova 26232]

6 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I think the mushrooms on his steak were the wrong kind

He's exhausted from wearing that Nudie suit of his. 

[elfenix 34168]

Just GRUhorn exposing yet again that he doesn't live here by not knowing that the irs already knows enough financial info for 98% of americans to send them an accurate tax bill because their banks and employers tell the irs all about their income

[GRHorn 105]

Foreign influence in elections? 

 

 

[GRHorn 105]

On 5/2/2021 at 1:52 AM, elfenix said:

Just GRUhorn exposing yet again that he doesn't live here by not knowing that the irs already knows enough financial info for 98% of americans to send them an accurate tax bill because their banks and employers tell the irs all about their income

Income info does not equal transaction info. That’s another potential level of government invasion into privacy.
 

It’s fine that you support that, just be aware of it. 

[wildcat09 29187]

On 4/30/2021 at 8:12 PM, GRHorn said:

FIFY. 
 

Oh yeah, and if a recent IRS director says he has no idea how to spend that much money, you can be guaranteed that it will not just be “rich” people’s accounts being tracked.

In fact I haven’t actually seen the parameters of who they will want to track. It wasn’t in the Treasury guidance. 
 

Try again. 
 

I’ve never been a big fan of the police. Especially the Feds. Especially the Tax Man. 

Pay your taxes.

[StassneyHorn 6534]

49 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Foreign influence in elections? 

 

 

He lives in Wyoming. No answer on whether a permanent resident or citizen. Begs the question what is the government of Wyoming hiding? What does Liz Cheney know? How do they have such porous border defenses? If he loves nature so much, how about he lives in a tree instead?

[mdmost 42775]

So he's the new George Soros for the Right to be attributing all things libtard to?

[GRHorn 105]

 

[Captainant 27311]

1 minute ago, GRHorn said:

 

So it's "surveillance" to read public posts on a public image board? For fucks sake, you gotta lay off the fear-porn on fox. It's a nice move to use non-far-right media sources with your tucker carlson headline though

[Js1 85056]

8 minutes ago, Captainant said:

So it's "surveillance" to read public posts on a public image board? For fucks sake, you gotta lay off the fear-porn on fox. It's a nice move to use non-far-right media sources with your tucker carlson headline though

The government might monitor online chatter by suspected domestic terrorists?

Since they are, more often than not, radicalized via....the internet?

Sorry, took me a second - GRHorn is just worried that he and his fellow Republicans will be held accountable for using public message boards and social media to do things like plot to kidnap a governor and execute Democratic officials to overthrow democracy.

Merrick Garland is not fucking playing with your treasonous asses. He knows how to deal with domestic terrorists. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33825]

1 hour ago, GRHorn said:

Foreign influence in elections? 

 

 

Citizen's United is a bitch, eh?

[GRHorn 105]

19 minutes ago, Captainant said:

So it's "surveillance" to read public posts on a public image board? For fucks sake, you gotta lay off the fear-porn on fox. It's a nice move to use non-far-right media sources with your tucker carlson headline though

They’re trying to circumvent legal limits to their surveillance powers. I’m glad you’re expressing your support for it. 

[Captainant 27311]

11 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

They’re trying to circumvent legal limits to their surveillance powers. I’m glad you’re expressing your support for it. 

Oh, go cash some HSA checks for your fake medical business you fucking hack. My stance on privacy online and government surveillance has been consistent since we've been on the shag. If you care to read the article and not just find a sentence that justifies your pearl clutching, it specifies that it "surveillance" is working with covert identities to get added into telegram chats and into private boards on extremist sites. It's not hacking into backends to cracking software, it's getting the fascists to bring you into the conversation.

[Willfully Horn 7913]

19 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

They’re trying to circumvent legal limits to their surveillance powers. I’m glad you’re expressing your support for it. 

Huh. From your link:

”There was only limited awareness before January 6 of what violent extremists were planning through social media," said Tom Warrick, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council who served as DHS Deputy Assistant Secretary for Counterterrorism Policy from 2008 until 2019 and has decades of experience as a career government official at agencies including the State Department. 

Warrick added he would expect DHS to "explore whether contractors could help them understand plots and trends" emerging online. 

"Whatever gets approved and implemented has to comply with established laws," he said, noting that DHS can only use overt methods to gather information from social media or collect information that is publicly available.”

Edited May 3, 2021 by Willfully Horn
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[GRHorn 105]

9 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Oh, go cash some HSA checks for your fake medical business you fucking hack. My stance on privacy online and government surveillance has been consistent since we've been on the shag. If you care to read the article and not just find a sentence that justifies your pearl clutching, it specifies that it "surveillance" is working with covert identities to get added into telegram chats and into private boards on extremist sites. It's not hacking into backends to cracking software, it's getting the fascists to bring you into the conversation.

By circumventing current laws. 

[Captainant 27311]

1 minute ago, GRHorn said:

By circumventing current laws. 

nothing in the article you posted says they are circumventing laws - if you disagree, please cite the entire paragraph from the article.

[GRHorn 105]

1 minute ago, Captainant said:

nothing in the article you posted says they are circumventing laws - if you disagree, please cite the entire paragraph from the article.

 

Outsourcing some information gathering to outside firms would give DHS the benefit of tactics that it isn't legally able to do in-house, such as using false personas to gain access to private groups used by suspected extremists, sources say.

[SydneyCarton 47809]

14 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Huh. From your link:

”There was only limited awareness before January 6 of what violent extremists were planning through social media," said Tom Warrick, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council who served as DHS Deputy Assistant Secretary for Counterterrorism Policy from 2008 until 2019 and has decades of experience as a career government official at agencies including the State Department. 

Warrick added he would expect DHS to "explore whether contractors could help them understand plots and trends" emerging online. 

"Whatever gets approved and implemented has to comply with established laws," he said, noting that DHS can only use overt methods to gather information from social media or collect information that is publicly available.”

 

6 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

By circumventing current laws. 

[Willfully Horn 7913]

Paid informants often bring in information the government can’t legally obtain in house:

[Captainant 27311]

Just now, GRHorn said:

Outsourcing some information gathering to outside firms would give DHS the benefit of tactics that it isn't legally able to do in-house, such as using false personas to gain access to private groups used by suspected extremists, sources say.

Yes - they're using willing external partners to provide access to those groups. Look four paragraphs after the sentence you copy/pasted. Do you have a problem with use of confidential informants?

Would you rather those people have their free speech be restricted to deny them their ability to tell DHS/FBI about the terrorist plots they're seeing on 8kun and parler and gab?

[SydneyCarton 47809]

2 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

 

Outsourcing some information gathering to outside firms would give DHS the benefit of tactics that it isn't legally able to do in-house, such as using false personas to gain access to private groups used by suspected extremists, sources say.

Sounds like typical police work by cultivating informants to me. You of all people should be thrilled at a similar scenario where a police officer has to tell you that they're a hooker if you ask them directly. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33825]

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Sounds like typical police work by cultivating informants to me. You of all people should be thrilled at a similar scenario where a police officer has to tell you that they're a hooker if you ask them directly. 

[Js1 85056]

[GRHorn 105]

22 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

 

"Whatever gets approved and implemented has to comply with established laws," he said, noting that DHS can only use overt methods to gather information from social media or collect information that is publicly available.”

 

[hobbes2702 12771]

41 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

By circumventing current laws. 

This is a lie as pointed out already. You’re repeating a lie. So are you ignorant and didn’t read your own article or are you trolling?

[Captainant 27311]

@GRHorn: "I'm a medical professional!"

[Biff Tannen 45478]

I'm sure if these terrorists were brown and/or Muslim, GRHorn would have the exact same misgivings.

[GRHorn 105]

4 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

This is a lie as pointed out already. You’re repeating a lie. So are you ignorant and didn’t read your own article or are you trolling?

The article has a quote from anonymous official saying it will comply with existing laws. It also says they are looking to outside people to do work they aren’t legally allowed to do.
 

Sounds like they’re wading into a legal gray area, at the least, by going around the current legal boundaries. Call it whatever you want. It’s not a lie. 
 

 

[GRHorn 105]

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I'm sure if these terrorists were brown and/or Muslim, GRHorn would have the exact same misgivings.

I would. I’m anti surveillance state. 

[hobbes2702 12771]

9 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

The article has a quote from anonymous official saying it will comply with existing laws. It also says they are looking to outside people to do work they aren’t legally allowed to do.
 

Sounds like they’re wading into a legal gray area, at the least, by going around the current legal boundaries. Call it whatever you want. It’s not a lie. 
 

 

So the article contains an quote that says anything they do will comply with the law. It sounds like you don’t understand how the law works.
You’re lying or trolling. 

[jimmyjazz 45513]

22 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

So are you ignorant and didn’t read your own article or are you trolling?

Yes.

[bad_teammate 13125]

We should expropriate the wealth of all billionaires regardless of politics or wokeness level.

Edited May 3, 2021 by bad_teammate

[Longhorn_Fan68 33825]

10 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

We should expropriate the wealth of all billionaires regardless of politics or wokeness level.

is there a wokeness meter or chart handy somewhere? I wanna know how woke or unwoke (not woke? wokeless?) I am.
 

[StassneyHorn 6534]

They’re going to catfish people online to join militia groups, that’s what you’re upset about. 

[GRHorn 105]

8 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

They’re going to catfish people online to join militia groups, that’s what you’re upset about. 

Actually now that you put it that way I’m on board. I’ll earn some nice coin when Pres DeSantis needs outside help going after BlueAnons online. I could blend in quite well as a CR poster. I know the lingo. 

[wildcat09 29187]

Does anyone remember GR complaining when the Trump admin hired an Israeli firm to spy on Americans?

[bad_teammate 13125]

16 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

is there a wokeness meter or chart handy somewhere? I wanna know how woke or unwoke (not woke? wokeless?) I am.
 

I will be sending a gender-ambiguous grad student to each of your homes for an inspection

you will receive the results via TikTok within 12-28 business days, depending upon the self-care needs of your inspector

[Homercles 10205]

The article also says that the providers that’ll actually peruse those boards will provide trends and insights...not directly engage these people.  Sounds to me like they’ll aggregate what they see to say ‘hey it looks like another Jan 6 is spoiling up’ or ‘this is the current QAnon bullshit you need to be prepared to address’.  
 

Article makes sense to me.  

[jimmyjazz 45513]

10 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Does anyone remember GR complaining when the Trump admin hired an Israeli firm to spy on Americans?

Does anyone rember GR complaining that the Arizona Republicans have hired outside parties to count ballots?

(I remain gobsmacked that this is even possible, not to mention legal.)