Joe Biden 2021

[Js1 85104]

That’s a troll response 

[DonkeyCigars 144]

What does y'alls list look like so I can call y'all trolls for disagreeing then. Let's hear it.

[DonkeyCigars 144]

10 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

What does your list look like?

[Js1 85104]

Aw someone got butthurt. 

[hobbes2702 12804]

2 minutes ago, DonkeyCigars said:

What does your list look like?

[DonkeyCigars 144]

Ah, jokes on me. I fell for it and took the bait, you guys are actually trolling me.

 

Edited June 4, 2021 by DonkeyCigars

[hobbes2702 12804]

I don’t think anyone’s trolling you but I would love to hear what it is about Ron Desantis and Rand Paul you like? This should be great stuff

[Js1 85104]

12 minutes ago, DonkeyCigars said:

What does your list look like?

1. Any Democrat who didn't openly attempt to overturn the 2020 election or further support passing and signing measures to ensure they have an easier time of doing it in 2024 to appease an idiotic manchild and a base of half illiterate trash. 

2. End of list. 

Edited June 4, 2021 by Js1

[jimmyjazz 45554]

DeSantis and Paul are basically Trump The Sequel.  While I don't think there are many Republicans worth a tinker's damn, those two are not even in the discussion.

[DonkeyCigars 144]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

DeSantis and Paul are basically Trump The Sequel.  While I don't think there are many Republicans worth a tinker's damn, those two are not even in the discussion.

You might not know this, but I voted for Trump in 2020. Hence the list and not knowing that maybe why it would seem absurd to you and why you thought I was trolling you.

[hobbes2702 12804]

So you support overthrowing the democratic process? Because that’s what your voting history and your list indicate?

[DonkeyCigars 144]

14 minutes ago, Js1 said:

1. Any Democrat who didn't openly attempt to overturn the 2020 election or further support passing and signing measures to ensure they have an easier time of doing it in 2024 to appease an idiotic manchild and a base of half illiterate trash. 

2. End of list. 

That’s lazy. That’s like asking me and then me saying:

1) Any Republican that gets the nomination

2) End of list.

I would vote for Yang or a Howard Schultz type D only. I would not vote for Biden no matter the opponent though would be fine living with him until 2028 if he remains ineffective and not willing to break glass.

 

Edited June 4, 2021 by DonkeyCigars

[Bama Chick 28596]

OH MY GOD SHUT UP.

YOU ARE A TOTALLY ANNOYING BORE.

[Captainant 27447]

Just now, DonkeyCigars said:

That’s lazy. That’s like asking me and then me saying. I would vote for Yang or a Howard Schultz type D only. I would not vote for Biden no matter the opponent though would be fine living with him until 2028 if he remains ineffective and not willing to break glass.

1) Any Republican that gets the nomination

2) End of list.

I didn't have you pegged as someone so partisan - IE: "always vote red over blue". I am typically an independent electorally, I voted Romney in 2012 and scattershot downballot depending on the seat, primaried for Bernie and then voted Johnson in the general (lol fuck me, right?) and was scattershot downballot, and voted nearly straight ticket dem in 2020. The differentiator for 2020 was that the republican party has straight lost its goddamn mind. They are the party of trump, through and through. They recently changed their leadership because she refused to repeat trump's lie.

I don't understand how you could on one hand appear to dislike trump and trumpism (because you don't strike me as a fascist), but on the other hand continue to prefer and even favor those who most fervently repeat trump's lies about the election being stolen.

It gives the impression that you're either a useful idiot, or a troll.

[jimmyjazz 45554]

8 minutes ago, DonkeyCigars said:

You might not know this, but I voted for Trump in 2020. Hence the list and not knowing that maybe why it would seem absurd to you and why you thought I was trolling you.

No matter how rational one might present themselves, when they finally disclose that they not only voted for Trump in 2020 but would only vote for a Republican in 2024, I know everything I need to know.  You are the shitbag I thought you were.  I'm embarassed that I spent a week slowly thinking you might be a more nuanced thinker.

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 hour ago, DonkeyCigars said:

And this is where I diverge from those masses I guess, because I feel like outside of the COVID stimulus bill, which would have been passed in some flavor or another no matter who was President, Biden has largely done not much materially at all to affect the nation, one way or another. If his presidency serves as great optics for stabilization and he talks a good talk (to Democrats and/or Progressives) but largely does nothing because he a) doesn't have the support and/or b) doesn't want to break glass to get things done (e.g. abolish filibuster, take hard stands against Manchin, calling folks out, taking unilateral actions, etc.) then I think that's awesome.

Biden as a stabilizing, seat-warmer for 2024 is the best case scenario for me and my ilk and I'm here for it.

Dude. You’re on a roll with dumb takes. There is no way in hell Moscow Mitch authorizes the trillion dollar Covid bill Biden signed two and a half months ago.    Even if trump was president. He wouldn’t have authorized the second Covid bill last fall if it hadn’t been an election year. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

No matter how rational one might present themselves, when they finally disclose that they not only voted for Trump in 2020 but would only vote for a Republican in 2024, I know everything I need to know.  You are the shitbag I thought you were.  I'm embarassed that I spent a week slowly thinking you might be a more nuanced thinker.

He’s a troll. Just kinda sorta an agreeable one. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

10 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

OH MY GOD SHUT UP.

YOU ARE A TOTALLY ANNOYING BORE.

This 

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

Every time, y'all end up like this. Every time.     Leave the dollar and move on.

[Brisketexan 104595]

2 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I didn't have you pegged as someone so partisan - IE: "always vote red over blue". I am typically an independent electorally, I voted Romney in 2012 and scattershot downballot depending on the seat, primaried for Bernie and then voted Johnson in the general (lol fuck me, right?) and was scattershot downballot, and voted nearly straight ticket dem in 2020. The differentiator for 2020 was that the republican party has straight lost its goddamn mind. They are the party of trump, through and through. They recently changed their leadership because she refused to repeat trump's lie.

I don't understand how you could on one hand appear to dislike trump and trumpism (because you don't strike me as a fascist), but on the other hand continue to prefer and even favor those who most fervently repeat trump's lies about the election being stolen.

It gives the impression that you're either a useful idiot, or a troll.

It's really this.  And ironically, that sort of attitude has now made such single-issue voting the proper path.  Are you in favor of the undermining of our electoral systems, granting to partisan officials the authority to overturn any election result that would remove their party from power, and making voting harder for people, and the list goes on?  A list that, by the way, requires you to decide that a violent assault on Congress is a-ok, and/or you'll lie about it and call people bashing Capitol police officers with flagpoles and fire extinguishers "tourists going to the gift shop." Then vote GQP.  If you DON'T believe in those things, then you have to vote Dem. 

These are no-compromise, no-gray-area issue.  you either believe in a Republic that is governed by the voters, who have a fair chance of changing its course by voting and having their votes actually determine election results, or you believe in a system where the most vulnerable are targeted to have their ability to vote limited, and on top of that, for GQP officials to simply declare "nope, the election that the Dem won was rigged, the Repub wins."

It's fascinating that the GQP has devolved to a point where that's the determinative issue.  The rest is irrelevant window-dressing, because if we don't get to have free and fair elections again, then policy positions don't fucking matter.

Fuck fascists.  Fuck those who enable them in the interest of preserving their personal comfort.  It never works out that way, you ignorant dumbfucks.  It all turns to shit, and all the shit you thought you were protecting gets ruined anyway.  Always choose to preserve democratic checks and balances.  Always oppose fascist bullshittery.  And I can't believe that I live in a timeline where I have to type those last two sentences, but here we are.

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

20 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Fuck fascists.  Fuck those who enable them in the interest of preserving their personal comfort.  It never works out that way, you ignorant dumbfucks.  It all turns to shit, and all the shit you thought you were protecting gets ruined anyway.  

This is the bet, the bet they make with themselves that the risk will be rewarded. During the rise, it seems that way--the scenic hills beckon with a golden path to prosperity for those deemed worthy of the bounty.

But O you fascist Pioneers, you seekers of the absolute power needed to fulfill your (manifest) destiny. All too soon, you'll find yourselves in a trap that lacks the beauty of the Sierra Nevadas but the result will be the same.

[aggie08 21431]

1 hour ago, DonkeyCigars said:

You might not know this, but I voted for Trump in 2020. Hence the list and not knowing that maybe why it would seem absurd to you and why you thought I was trolling you.

Oh fuck you. Unlike some on here, I don't immediately demonize people who voted for Trump in 2020. I have a few people in my life who did so who I'd consider good, intelligent people. They don't follow politics that closely, and it's really fucking hard to break free from decades of "if you want to keep your money, are religious, don't want socialism, or support cops or the military, you vote R" propaganda. It pretty much makes no difference who the candidate is. It's disheartening and short-sighted, but I get it.

But anybody who, not only doesn't regret their vote for Trump after seeing everything that has transpired from Nov. 4 until now--the effortless and shamelessness in which they lie to push through voter suppression and election laws, 1/6, the continued demand for fealty to one man, the insane rhetoric and dangerous conspiracy theories--but wants the next best thing to Trump himself in 2024 is a piece of shit. Full stop. Keep telling yourself that it's about policies and agendas if that makes your feel better about yourself, but you're fooling no one.

Edited June 4, 2021 by aggie08

[Dahobbs 17444]

2 hours ago, DonkeyCigars said:

I don't have a favorite personality or person, but more of a persona.  From the probable choices, maybe it looks like:

1) Ron DeSantis

2) Rand Paul

3) Andrew Yang

4) Nikki Haley

5) Joe Biden

6) The Rock

7) Kanye West

8. Caitlyn Jenner

In that order?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[Dahobbs 17444]

1 hour ago, DonkeyCigars said:

You might not know this, but I voted for Trump in 2020. Hence the list and not knowing that maybe why it would seem absurd to you and why you thought I was trolling you.

I understand what you mean about different worlds now. You live in a world where Trump isn't a vile piece of shit that formented an ongoing assault on democracy. I live in reality. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33841]

or he's just a troll - probably a GR sock

[mchookem 16208]

5 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

No matter how rational one might present themselves, when they finally disclose that they not only voted for Trump in 2020 but would only vote for a Republican in 2024, I know everything I need to know.  You are the shitbag I thought you were.  I'm embarassed that I spent a week slowly thinking you might be a more nuanced thinker.

yeah...i feel pretty dumb for thinking i was having a philosophical conversation with a rational person yesterday 😔i even doled out some pos rep. shame on me i guess 😒 

Edited June 5, 2021 by mchookem

[gmr548 16503]

I didn't have you pegged as someone so partisan - IE: "always vote red over blue".

lol how in God’s name did you get to this conclusion?

[hobbes2702 12804]

1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

or he's just a troll - probably a GR sock

[Foosters 17730]

2 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Oh fuck you. Unlike some on here, I don't immediately demonize people who voted for Trump in 2020. I have a few people in my life who did so who I'd consider good, intelligent people. They don't follow politics that closely, and it's really fucking hard to break free from decades of "if you want to keep your money, are religious, don't want socialism, or support cops or the military, you vote R" propaganda. It pretty much makes no difference who the candidate is. It's disheartening and short-sighted, but I get it.

But anybody who, not only doesn't regret their vote for Trump after seeing everything that has transpired from Nov. 4 until now--the effortless and shamelessness in which they lie to push through voter suppression and election laws, 1/6, the continued demand for fealty to one man, the insane rhetoric and dangerous conspiracy theories--but wants the next best thing to Trump himself in 2024 is a piece of shit. Full stop. Keep telling yourself that it's about policies and agendas if that makes your feel better about yourself, but you're fooling no one.

[mchookem 16208]

 

2 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

I understand what you mean about different worlds now. You live in a world where Trump isn't a vile piece of shit that formented an ongoing assault on democracy. I live in reality. 

his amygdala misfired

[Captainant 27447]

55 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

lol how in God’s name did you get to this conclusion?

A misplaced faith in my common man, I guess? Jokes on me lmao

[JimmyJames 12271]

2 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

or he's just a troll - probably a GR sock

I get the sentiment but he’s got an entirely different style and I don’t think GRUhorn is talented enough to pull that off. He’s more like chrispy troll (rip) was but a little bit different. 

[Captainant 27447]

32 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

I get the sentiment but he’s got an entirely different style and I don’t think GRUhorn is talented enough to pull that off. He’s more like chrispy troll (rip) was but a little bit different. 

I don't think donkers is trolling, I think he's just drank the kool aid. Or maybe I'm a dumbass. 50/50. 

[Bama Chick 28596]

lol how in God’s name did you get to this conclusion?

Yeah - a few of us had his disingenuous faux reasonable earnest asshattery pegged immediately.

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

52 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

I get the sentiment but he’s got an entirely different style and I don’t think GRUhorn is talented enough to pull that off. He’s more like chrispy troll (rip) was but a little bit different. 

I feel sad for @GRHorn. I thought it was pretty solid advice--take the Mrs. GRHorn out for a nice meal and snap a new pic for the avatar but instead he switches to some weird naked guy that's not even hot.

[Captainant 27447]

@DonkeyCigars do you think the 2020 election was stolen from trump? Serious question. 

[Satchel 6908]

2 hours ago, Foosters said:

So much this. How can anybody support that ignoramus after how he got on his knees for Putin before the whole world in Helsinki?

[GRHorn 105]

24 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I feel sad for @GRHorn. I thought it was pretty solid advice--take the Mrs. GRHorn out for a nice meal and snap a new pic for the avatar but instead he switches to some weird naked guy that's not even hot.

I have no idea what you’re talking about here. 
 

I’m just sitting here in scenic Galveston, TX, USA. Halftime of the Mavericks game and I’m looking for recruiting news. Looks like poor Donkey Cigars made the mistake of disagreeing with CR orthodoxy. He’s no sock of mine. Just another one of the other half of the country y’all despise here. 

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

2 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

I have no idea what you’re talking about here. 
 

I’m just sitting here in scenic Galveston, TX, USA. Halftime of the Mavericks game and I’m looking for recruiting news. Looks like poor Donkey Cigars made the mistake of disagreeing with CR orthodoxy. He’s no sock of mine. Just another one of the other half of the country y’all despise here. 

Third of the country. And we despise for a good god damn reason. A third of our nation is too dumb to realize they despise democracy while wrapping themselves in the flag and calling us traitors. Fuck you. 

[aggie08 21431]

9 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Just another one of the other half of the country y’all despise here.

Half the country doesn't want Rand fucking Paul to be the next President. Just you merry band of idiots.

[fattyflattie 4636]

5 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

Third of the country. And we despise for a good god damn reason. A third of our nation is too dumb to realize they despise democracy while wrapping themselves in the flag and calling us traitors. Fuck you. 

The delta was 8m iirc.  And that included a metric fuck ton of people who just couldn’t deal with Trump, single issue voters if you will. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

14 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

I have no idea what you’re talking about here. 
 

I’m just sitting here in scenic Galveston, TX, USA. Halftime of the Mavericks game and I’m looking for recruiting news. Looks like poor Donkey Cigars made the mistake of disagreeing with CR orthodoxy. He’s no sock of mine. Just another one of the other half of the country y’all despise here. 

People were giving you grief over your steak meal with carrot avatar and I suggested to get a new one. You did, but it's a weird naked guy. But you do you. I don't think you and Donkey are related.

 

[DonkeyCigars 144]

35 minutes ago, Captainant said:

@DonkeyCigars do you think the 2020 election was stolen from trump? Serious question. 

No I don’t.

[Brisketexan 104595]

No I don’t.

But he happily supports candidate after candidate who either does believe that....or sells the lie to get votes, insurrection-spurring be damned.

He’s anti-democracy. If you support these people, that’s the plain truth.

[gmr548 16503]

half of the country

Don’t flatter yourselves.

[JimmyJames 12271]

32 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

I have no idea what you’re talking about here. 
 

I’m just sitting here in scenic Galveston, TX, USA. Halftime of the Mavericks game and I’m looking for recruiting news. Looks like poor Donkey Cigars made the mistake of disagreeing with CR orthodoxy. He’s no sock of mine. Just another one of the other half of the country y’all despise here. 

 

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

19 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

The delta was 8m iirc.  And that included a metric fuck ton of people who just couldn’t deal with Trump, single issue voters if you will. 

That's a stat for the election. A few big things happened since, that luckily, chipped that away a bit. Regardless of percentage, they've earned our ire. 

[Dahobbs 17444]

@DonkeyCigars isn't a troll. He is just wrong about a lot of things. And that's ok I guess. 

[Captainant 27447]

52 minutes ago, DonkeyCigars said:

No I don’t.

And yet, your two most favored 2024 candidates fervently believe that to be true. Or say least say so publicly. 

How can you square your support for politicians without a basis in reality? In my view, it's nothing but repeating the same big lie to build the false grievance case to ignore election results or to devalue them if they come from states that don't have voter suppression laws on the books. 

Edited June 5, 2021 by Captainant

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

10 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

No matter how rational one might present themselves, when they finally disclose that they not only voted for Trump in 2020 but would only vote for a Republican in 2024, I know everything I need to know.  You are the shitbag I thought you were.  I'm embarassed that I spent a week slowly thinking you might be a more nuanced thinker.

Forget it Jimmy, he's a Chrispy sock.