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[ztejas 43,418]

2 minutes ago, RexWilson said:

@BigOrange1

Nope. Too late. KD come on down!

[BigOrange1 6,436]

54 minutes ago, RexWilson said:

@BigOrange1

i missed it, thanks.

[shadow_operative 15,932]

Durdy will keep Paul George as his 3rd round pick. 

[RCRanger03 1,049]

6 hours ago, RexWilson said:

@BigOrange1

fkkkkkkkkk @RexWilsonthose are nasty

[shadow_operative 15,932]

oh and Durdy wants to keep Tristan in the 11th. so PG in the 3rd and TT in the 11th.

[BigOrange1 6,436]

ok, i have everyone's keepers tracked on a spreadsheet.  we are working hybrid schedules at work right now and i will be back in the office tomorrow.  will work on the draft order first thing as i think it will be much easier to do on a PC with a second monitor than it will on a tiny laptop. 

[BigOrange1 6,436]

so i'm not sure keepers are going to be able to work the way we have talked about.  i have assigned everyone's keepers and edited the draft order but there does not appear to be any option to go in and take away or black out specific picks in specific rounds....

[Capn81 372]

Yeah, I think that is correct now that I think about it. The fantasy football leagues I am in left ESPN because of it. Basically, we had to hold this players and force the manager to draft the player when the proper time came.

As you imagine, people timing out/losing connection led to pausing the drafts and removing the picks to continue.

[Capn81 372]

Like they have set keeper rounds but not preplanned picks.

[ztejas 43,418]

1 hour ago, BigOrange1 said:

so i'm not sure keepers are going to be able to work the way we have talked about.  i have assigned everyone's keepers and edited the draft order but there does not appear to be any option to go in and take away or black out specific picks in specific rounds....

We can just honor system it. No one set any keepers on ESPN. Then just provide everyone with a list of who the keepers are or who is "unavailable". When it comes to the round that is designated for your keeper you draft him.

Edited December 17, 2020 by ztejas

[BigOrange1 6,436]

17 hours ago, ztejas said:

We can just honor system it. No one set any keepers on ESPN. Then just provide everyone with a list of who the keepers are or who is "unavailable". When it comes to the round that is designated for your keeper you draft him.

i'm fine with this approach if everyone else is.

[BigOrange1 6,436]

and i can keep a list of who is supposed to pick a certain player and when and put it in the chat when that pick comes up.

[shadow_operative 15,932]

that works for me 

[Radical Larry 28,584]

Sounds good to me.

[ztejas 43,418]

It's actually kind of nice, too, because you could always flex out of your keeper if you want. Say the draft is going a certain way you didn't expect or you just change your mind. I don't think anyone is going to "make" you take the guy you're supposed to. 

[Capn81 372]

It's actually kind of nice, too, because you could always flex out of your keeper if you want. Say the draft is going a certain way you didn't expect or you just change your mind. I don't think anyone is going to "make" you take the guy you're supposed to. 

Wouldn’t this cause issues though? Many of the guys kept are above their draft positions round wise. Wouldn’t this give an unfair advantage to the person drafting after the person who decided to not keep someone? IE: if it was known that you were not keeping the guy, he would have been drafted earlier.

[ztejas 43,418]

4 minutes ago, Capn81 said:

Wouldn’t this give an unfair advantage to the person drafting after the person who decided to not keep someone?

Keeping anyone in the first place would be an unfair advantage by that logic - right? I'm not keeping anyone so y'all can decide. Fine either way just spit balling.

[BigOrange1 6,436]

ok, there are 15 players on the do not draft list:

Trae Young

Jayson Tatum

Devin Booker

KD

Paul George

Bam Adebayo

Fred VanVleet

Khris Middleton

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander

Chris Paul

Ja Morant

Domontas Sabonis

Brandon Ingram

Dennis Schroder

Tristan Thompson

[BigOrange1 6,436]

The following picks are keepers:

3rd round: @Radical Larry - Trae Young, pick #22, @BallamaticBevo - Jayson Tatum, pick #23, Durdy - Paul George, pick #26, @RexWilson - Devin Booker, pick #28

5th round: @shadow_operative - Damontas Sabonis, pick #47, @RexWilson - Kevin Durant, pick #48, @Capn81 - Khris Middleton, pick #49

6th round: @Timbo52 - Ja Morant, pick #57, BigOrange - Bam Adebayo, pick #60

7th round: @RCRanger03 - Chris Paul, pick #65

10th round: @shadow_operative - Fred VanVleet, pick #94, @BallamaticBevo - Dennis Schroder, pick #98, BigOrange - SGA, pick #100

11th round: Durdy - Tristian Thompson, pick #106, @Capn81 - Brandon Ingram, pick #109

 

[RexWilson 1,346]

If someone is on autodraft, will this cause problems in regards to selecting an available keeper?

[BigOrange1 6,436]

2 hours ago, RexWilson said:

If someone is on autodraft, will this cause problems in regards to selecting an available keeper?

certainly seems like it could.

[RCRanger03 1,049]

2 hours ago, BigOrange1 said:

certainly seems like it could.

Does the Commish have the ability to freeze the draft/make picks/move people to top of the queue?

 Not sure how draconian your powers are

[ztejas 43,418]

So you're telling me if I set my shit on autodraft then I'll wind up with an absolutely stacked team?

[shadow_operative 15,932]

should we consider doing a live draft right here? i know that it could get a little complicated, but as of right now it seems like there's a whole lot that can go wrong if we try to to an ESPN online draft. i mean one person not showing up kills the whole thing, right? just wanted to throw that out there for consideration.

[Capn81 372]

Keeping anyone in the first place would be an unfair advantage by that logic - right? I'm not keeping anyone so y'all can decide. Fine either way just spit balling.

But we know in advance. My point is, keepers ahead of time are locked in, so everyone knows who is off the board. The keepers are an advantage for a good draft the year prior, but we know who is locked in due to savvy drafting.

I know that I am using an extreme example here, but if the person who keeps KD decides in round six that he will let him go, that gives a huge boost to the person who picks after that individuals spot because we held a first round player five rounds past where he would have gone if let go prior to the draft.

[Capn81 372]

Does the Commish have the ability to freeze the draft/make picks/move people to top of the queue?
 Not sure how draconian your powers are

Yeah they do. The draft has to be paused, pick then removed, and then the commission has to pick the best player available for the individual if they time out.

Having the draft in here seems like it would be troublesome from keeping track of who has been drafted, and will add time on top of the espn draft due to the timer not being active. No great way to do it IMO, but I think on ESPN app/webpage would be cleaner.

[shadow_operative 15,932]

so what happens if someone doesn't show up to the draft? how do we handle that?

[Radical Larry 28,584]

 

[ztejas 43,418]

1 hour ago, Capn81 said:

but if the person who keeps KD decides in round six that he will let him go, that gives a huge boost to the person who picks after that individuals spot

That isn't going to happen. If it really is an issue then just forget what I said and "lock" the keeper picks before the draft. I was more just suggesting a potential course of action than how it needs to be. 

I think the autodraft is the bigger issue. Although I can't imagine why any of you would autodraft in a money keeper league.

[Capn81 372]

That isn't going to happen. If it really is an issue then just forget what I said and "lock" the keeper picks before the draft. I was more just suggesting a potential course of action than how it needs to be. 
I think the autodraft is the bigger issue. Although I can't imagine why any of you would autodraft in a money keeper league.

I agree that the likely scenario doesn’t play out, but it gets messy if it does!

[BigOrange1 6,436]

so our plan is to hope everyone shows up right?  if not, should we discuss some other options now?

[RexWilson 1,346]

Not sure if this would work, but if you know you won't live draft, cant you create your ranking of players to have the cpu draft for you? If so, move all keepers to the bottom of list to avoid auto draft????

[BigOrange1 6,436]

that's a very good suggestion.

i can always manually force trades as commissioner too so if someone's keeper gets taken i can force a trade.  not a great solution, but a solution nonetheless. 

[shadow_operative 15,932]

On 12/18/2020 at 11:44 AM, BigOrange1 said:

ok, there are 15 players on the do not draft list:

Trae Young

Jayson Tatum

Devin Booker

KD

Paul George

Bam Adebayo

Fred VanVleet

Khris Middleton

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander

Chris Paul

Ja Morant

Domontas Sabonis

Brandon Ingram

Dennis Schroder

Tristan Thompson

add Robert Covington to this list. he's being kept as well. 

[shadow_operative 15,932]

i guess we'll all need to keep an eye on that list as we draft, and it would probably be a good idea to study it some beforehand. so weird that ESPN doesn't have the keepers set up properly. 

[BigOrange1 6,436]

8 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

add Robert Covington to this list. he's being kept as well. 

by whom and with what round pick?

[BigOrange1 6,436]

i have removed everyone's keepers.

[Radical Larry 28,584]

You can edit your keepers on the app and website. It's on your team home page. You can change them up to an hour before the draft. 

Edited December 20, 2020 by Radical Larry

[shadow_operative 15,932]

10 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said:

by whom and with what round pick?

not sure the team name. the handle is @Timbo52 and i believe he said round 9. i'm sure he'll be here shortly to confirm.

[shadow_operative 15,932]

7 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

You can edit your keepers on the app and website. It's on your team home page. You can change them up to an hour before the draft. 

yeah i've had mine set for a long time, but i went and checked just now and they weren't set for some reason. teams might want to go check on that. 

[BigOrange1 6,436]

yeah, i undid all of them.  if you have someone set to be a keeper you're going to forfeit your first round pick.  we talked about this...

[Timbo52 1]

I'm keeping Covington in the 9th.. I thought I had stated that earlier in the week

[BigOrange1 6,436]

updated:

3rd round: @Radical Larry - Trae Young, pick #22, @BallamaticBevo - Jayson Tatum, pick #23, Durdy - Paul George, pick #26, @RexWilson - Devin Booker, pick #28

5th round: @shadow_operative - Damontas Sabonis, pick #47, @RexWilson - Kevin Durant, pick #48, @Capn81 - Khris Middleton, pick #49

6th round: @Timbo52 - Ja Morant, pick #57, BigOrange - Bam Adebayo, pick #60

7th round: @RCRanger03 - Chris Paul, pick #65

9^th round: @Timbo52– Robert Covington, pick #84

10th round: @shadow_operative - Fred VanVleet, pick #94, @BallamaticBevo - Dennis Schroder, pick #98, BigOrange - SGA, pick #100

11th round: Durdy - Tristian Thompson, pick #106, @Capn81 - Brandon Ingram, pick #109

[ztejas 43,418]

29 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

You can edit your keepers on the app and website. It's on your team home page. You can change them up to an hour before the draft. 

 

21 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

yeah i've had mine set for a long time, but i went and checked just now and they weren't set for some reason. teams might want to go check on that. 

No one set them on the site. We are doing it manually. Make sure you're selections are in @BigOrange1's latest post and draft them with the corresponding pick.

[shadow_operative 15,932]

2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

 

No one set them on the site. We are doing it manually. Make sure you're selections are in @BigOrange1's latest post and draft them with the corresponding pick.

so, don't have them selected as keepers?

[shadow_operative 15,932]

roger that. i undid it.

[RexWilson 1,346]

If you go to the edit your draft strategy button, you can exclude players from your list. That is one way to help with auto draft or if you happen to forget.

[ztejas 43,418]

Someone still has a keeper set in the first round. Whoever is picking 9th.

Also - we still have it set for a 60 second clock per pick - were we going to bump that to 75? is it too late?

 

Edited December 21, 2020 by ztejas

[ztejas 43,418]

@Capn81 You have it set to keep Khris Middleton with your 1st round pick. I don't think you want to do that. 

[Capn81 372]

Yeah, I caught the message earlier about setting and set them but will need them removed. If they cannot be removed, I will just take it as being SOL.

Unfortunately, work needed me to get things done today, so I was watching the thread out of one corner of my eye. Did not catch that we did not. Red to do that.

I am done with work for now, so I will be at the draft.