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Also, going to the Austin FC match on Saturday?  Get your shot while you're there, I'm serious:

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COVID VACCINATIONS 

Austin FC will offer first-round Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson vaccinations after the match. Registration will be behind Sections 135 and 136 during the match. Further instructions will be provided upon registration.

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Some adolescent children second shot updates.  My two sons, ages 12 and 15, got their second shots two weeks ago.  Both had sore arms.  15 year old, who also had the mildest case of COVID back in December, spiked a low grade fever and felt shitty for two days or so.  12 year old had not even the slightest additional symptom outside of the sore arm. 

It's summer.  The kids have time for some down time.  Get those shots and don't hesitate on the second one. 

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Highest vax day in a month yesterday. 2.05M doses with 815K being first-timers. Over the last 2 weeks, daily average has crept back up from 950K/day to 1.35M/day.

65% of Americans 18+ have now had at least 1 shot. 62% of Americans 12+.

53% of the total population has had 1 shot, with 44.5% fully vaxed.

 

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  On 6/18/2021 at 3:58 PM, Storm the Field said:

Highest vax day in a month yesterday. 2.05M doses with 815K being first-timers. Over the last 2 weeks, daily average has crept back up from 950K/day to 1.35M/day.

65% of Americans 18+ have now had at least 1 shot. 62% of Americans 12+.

53% of the total population has had 1 shot, with 44.5% fully vaxed.

 

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Great to see.  I stopped tracking daily as it was making me all ragey.  

I guess people are seeing the benefit of being vaxxed in reentering normal life?

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Don't have the data, but I'm guessing the 12-18 age group is a big reason rates have been creeping back up.  Whatever the reason, it's great to see.

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My employer just released their new guidance starting August 1st.  If you provide original proof of full vaccination, you no longer have to wear a mask in company buildings. If you don't want to provide proof, then you will wear a mask for the foreseeable future. No exceptions.  

 

 

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  On 6/22/2021 at 2:55 PM, CooterBrown said:

My employer just released their new guidance starting August 1st.  If you provide original proof of full vaccination, you no longer have to wear a mask in company buildings. If you don't want to provide proof, then you will wear a mask for the foreseeable future. No exceptions.  

 

 

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that's going to be awesomely awkward.

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  On 6/22/2021 at 2:55 PM, CooterBrown said:

My employer just released their new guidance starting August 1st.  If you provide original proof of full vaccination, you no longer have to wear a mask in company buildings. If you don't want to provide proof, then you will wear a mask for the foreseeable future. No exceptions.  

 

 

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  On 6/22/2021 at 5:56 PM, Cody2422 said:

WHO now advises against 18 and under getting vaccinated

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/covid-19-vaccines/advice

 

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Children should not be vaccinated for the moment.

There is not yet enough evidence on the use of vaccines against COVID-19 in children to make recommendations for children to be vaccinated against COVID-19. Children and adolescents tend to have milder disease compared to adults. However, children should continue to have the recommended childhood vaccines.

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ambiguous statement is ambiguous.  JFC, are they trying to save the vax for everyone else (outside of US) to get it first or is there some key piece of data that is missing to grant them confidence in the vax being safe and effective in children?  I thought the mRNA ones had stellar trials for the younglings.  obviously, there is no long term data, but we did not have that for the original ones either.

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  On 6/22/2021 at 6:08 PM, gyroprotagonist said:

ambiguous statement is ambiguous.  JFC, are they trying to save the vax for everyone else (outside of US) to get it first or is there some key piece of data that is missing to grant them confidence in the vax being safe and effective in children?  I thought the mRNA ones had stellar trials for the younglings.  obviously, there is no long term data, but we did not have that for the original ones either.

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Messaging for countries with supply constraints, which will unfortunately be used domestically to bolster vax hesitancy. 

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Yep, they could have been honest and given one less arrow to the quiver of stupidity within our shores. 

Although they are criminals, I'm starting to respect Capitol Insurrectionists more than Anti-Covid Vaxxers.  None of them liked how the last year has gone for them, but instead the latter opted to just pout at home and spread conspiracy theories about vaccines; while the former group at least got off their ass and took some direct action.

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tl;dr The Chinese vaccine doesn't work too well, and the poor countries that have relied on it are going to keep seeing this shit spread.

They Relied on Chinese Vaccines. Now They’re Battling Outbreaks.
More than 90 countries are using Covid shots from China. Experts say recent infections in those places should serve as a cautionary tale in the global effort to fight the disease.

Mongolia promised its people a “Covid-free summer.” Bahrain said there would be a “return to normal life.” The tiny island nation of the Seychelles aimed to jump-start its economy.

All three put their faith, at least in part, in easily accessible Chinese-made vaccines, which would allow them to roll out ambitious inoculation programs when much of the world was going without.

But instead of freedom from the coronavirus, all three countries are now battling a surge in infections.

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  On 6/22/2021 at 8:11 PM, bolverk said:

The Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines have efficacy rates of more than 90 percent. A variety of other vaccines — including AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson — have efficacy rates of around 70 percent. The Sinopharm vaccine developed with the Beijing Institute of Biological Products has an efficacy rate of 78.1 percent; the Sinovac vaccine has an efficacy rate of 51 percent.

 

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This really goes to show how very fortunate we were to be positioned to deploy the novel mRNA technology in this case.  The Chinese are using older, traditional vaccine technology for some of their shots. Fifty percent VE would have probably been acceptable to FDA for an EUA, but we hit the fucking jackpot with highly effective mRNA vaccines developed on the back of years and years of foundational research building to this moment. 

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  On 6/22/2021 at 6:38 PM, Lobo said:

Yep, they could have been honest and given one less arrow to the quiver of stupidity within our shores. 

Although they are criminals, I'm starting to respect Capitol Insurrectionists more than Anti-Covid Vaxxers.  None of them liked how the last year has gone for them, but instead the latter opted to just pout at home and spread conspiracy theories about vaccines; while the former group at least got off their ass and took some direct action.

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Now the Insurrectionists are doing their damndest to catch up on the conspiracy theory spreading.  I respect neither group.  And there's a lot of overlap in that Venn Diagram.

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  On 6/23/2021 at 3:40 PM, Anastasis said:

These fucking myocarditis reports may throw a hitch in the giddy up. Being discussed at CDC ACIP right now.

 

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My VERY thin understanding of these reports was that they weren't actually materially exceeding the expected natural rate of myocarditis?  But my question mark is there for a reason.

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  On 6/23/2021 at 3:55 PM, Brisketexan said:

My VERY thin understanding of these reports was that they weren't actually materially exceeding the expected natural rate of myocarditis?  But my question mark is there for a reason.

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Here is some of the data that they are presenting today. They have another deck on risk/benefits, and the deck at least strongly suggests that their assessment appears to me to be that the benefits outweigh risks at both individual and population level.  But after the JNJ fiasco who knows where they end up.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/slides-2021-06.html


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  On 6/22/2021 at 5:56 PM, Cody2422 said:

WHO now advises against 18 and under getting vaccinated

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/covid-19-vaccines/advice

 

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They appear to have updated their message to children under 18 are not a high priority to vaccinate.

This statement is also in there:

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WHO's Strategic Advisory Group of Experts (SAGE) has concluded that the Pfizer/BionTech vaccine is suitable for use by people aged 12 years and above.

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Unfortunately the WHO is trying to send a common message about vaccines when there are many vaccines out there with different testing statuses, especially with children. In other words, they probably shouldn't have a common message. 

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  On 6/23/2021 at 4:04 PM, Anastasis said:

Here is some of the data that they are presenting today. They have another deck on risk/benefits, and the deck at least strongly suggests that their assessment appears to me to be that the benefits outweigh risks at both individual and population level.  But after the JNJ fiasco who knows where they end up.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/slides-2021-06.html


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IMO, we should have held off on the 18 and under crowd and possibly 25 and under. pushed real hard on the 25 and over.   risk to 25u was extremely low.

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  On 6/23/2021 at 5:34 PM, dcar00 said:
IMO, we should have held off on the 18 and under crowd and possibly 25 and under. pushed real hard on the 25 and over.   risk to 25u was extremely low.
Possibly. But also those age groups socialize at a very high level so I assume the chances of spread is high.
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  On 6/23/2021 at 5:40 PM, midtown said:
  On 6/23/2021 at 5:34 PM, dcar00 said:
IMO, we should have held off on the 18 and under crowd and possibly 25 and under. pushed real hard on the 25 and over.   risk to 25u was extremely low.
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Possibly. But also those age groups socialize at a very high level so I assume the chances of spread is high.

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yeah I know but they are generally spreading amongst themselves and seem to have much lower viral load/tendency to be asymptomatic.  EUA should really have been limited to most vulnerable.  Its EUA for a reason.

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  On 6/18/2021 at 3:08 PM, dcbc said:

Some adolescent children second shot updates.  My two sons, ages 12 and 15, got their second shots two weeks ago.  Both had sore arms.  15 year old, who also had the mildest case of COVID back in December, spiked a low grade fever and felt shitty for two days or so.  12 year old had not even the slightest additional symptom outside of the sore arm. 

It's summer.  The kids have time for some down time.  Get those shots and don't hesitate on the second one. 

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  On 6/23/2021 at 4:04 PM, Anastasis said:

Here is some of the data that they are presenting today. They have another deck on risk/benefits, and the deck at least strongly suggests that their assessment appears to me to be that the benefits outweigh risks at both individual and population level.  But after the JNJ fiasco who knows where they end up.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/slides-2021-06.html


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Just one docs opinion but UCSF heme onc doc and in epidemiology. Good thread overall, a couple highlights here

 

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I’m not spiking any football here, but I’m glad we have waited on our 12 year old up to this point. Just about all adults he regularly interacts with are vaccinated, so the risk of him spreading it are pretty low. I’m not against getting him vaccinated eventually, but I didn’t think there was a big rush to do it.

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  On 6/23/2021 at 6:54 PM, Hate said:

I’m not spiking any football here, but I’m glad we have waited on our 12 year old up to this point. Just about all adults he regularly interacts with are vaccinated, so the risk of him spreading it are pretty low. I’m not against getting him vaccinated eventually, but I didn’t think there was a big rush to do it.

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Mine, who turned 12 a month ago, had Covid.  So I have been in no rush.

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  On 6/23/2021 at 4:04 PM, Anastasis said:

Here is some of the data that they are presenting today. They have another deck on risk/benefits, and the deck at least strongly suggests that their assessment appears to me to be that the benefits outweigh risks at both individual and population level.  But after the JNJ fiasco who knows where they end up.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/slides-2021-06.html


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Help me understand this data. 7 day window means the myocarditis was diagnosed in the 7 days post vaccination shot?  If so, did they use that because it is the risk window?

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  On 6/24/2021 at 12:26 AM, Pato del Muerto said:

Help me understand this data. 7 day window means the myocarditis was diagnosed in the 7 days post vaccination shot?  If so, did they use that because it is the risk window?

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Basically yes. They did different analyses using different risk windows

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