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On 7/21/2021 at 5:25 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

There isn't any system that validates whether you've already had a shot or not. The place where you received the original shot(s) are maintaining those records just in case you need to prove you're vaccinated. The state or the feds don't have that record by name.

I think pretty much anyone can walk into a random vaccine center and get another vaccine even if you're already vaccinated. Make sure you somewhat know what you're doing before taking that path.

Since I believe that we will almost certainly have booster shots by the end of year with the same formula, I've thought about going for a 3rd Pfizer.

 

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Reading the last couple pages of this thread, I can't help but jump in here.  I'm a molecular biologist.  I'm happy to verify with the mods, just PM me so I don't dox myself.  I have not read most of

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This was posted by an ER doc from a local hospital: I have been mostly silent on the COVID surge but I feel it’s a duty and responsibility for healthcare professionals to report what we are seeing an

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You're a fascist who wishes death and suffering upon people.  You're why genocide has happened throughout history.  I've seen your vile posts before.  You need help.  Seriously, I'll swallow my pride

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On 8/1/2021 at 6:28 PM, Anastasis said:

This isn't fair, and actually reflects texags thinking by projection. The data are not definitive on many of the specific topics being debated (natural immunity vs. vax immunity, necessity of vax in post convalescent cases, pediatric cases <12, etc.). It does a disservice to the discussion to bring this kind of rhetoric into it, both from GR and you.   

 

Bullshit. I'm a known poster with an honestly disclosed background who does not claim to be a doctor. I also posted citations to most of what I was claiming and made clear that these were my opinions and that they disagreed with consensus in areas. I do think they will be correct, but people can make their own opinions. I'd love to be wrong. 

GRHorn is a known liar who claimed to be a medical doctor under his previous account and has been intentionally spreading dissension and lies the entire time he has posted on this board. He's also banned for lying and using several sock accounts to continue to do so.

I only responded to him at all so other posters could recognize him as a banned liar. 

If you can't see the difference there, it's because his is one of your biggest allies on topics we can't discuss on this board and you are letting that creep in.  

 

 

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There are not definitive conclusions or data on the issues I highlighted in that post, and I think that all the ad hominem name calling does a disservice to what is an interesting discussion especially for people reading along that are not as versed in the data and its context.  So I'll go with "no bullshit". I don't think that I am the one letting my political inclinations influence my take on this. But carry on pods. 

 

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5 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

In Austin, from 7/19 to 8/1, fully vaccinated in hospital is 16.55%

Doesn’t break it down further into ICU

This isn't surprising. It's the same signal we've seen everywhere else. I posted last week about similar numbers in Houston, LA and Chicago. Places with higher vaccination rates will have higher percentages of breakthrough hospitalizations. That's the people available to infect. It's going to go up, but as long as it stays below the percent vaccinated in the overall population, it shows the vaccines are still working, just not as well as we'd hoped. 

3 hours ago, UT_OB1 said:

There are detailed numbers in the link posted by Anastasia. 70+ year old group makes up 46% of the vaccinated hospitalized. 50-70 year olds make up 37%

 

edit - not detailed to age and date of Vax. However, being that we’re only talking about n=54 to start with, I think we’d be flogging the crap out of the data to reach much more detailed conclusions. It probably just boils down to what it has since the beginning - the older you are the more at risk you are. 

Israeli data was strongly stratified. Most the breakthrough hospitalizations were over 60. May be age, may be that they were vaccinated first. 

 

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25 minutes ago, Pods said:

Bullshit. I'm a known poster with an honestly disclosed background who does not claim to be a doctor. I also posted citations to most of what I was claiming and made clear that these were my opinions and that they disagreed with consensus in areas. I do think they will be correct, but people can make their own opinions. I'd love to be wrong. 

GRHorn is a known liar who claimed to be a medical doctor under his previous account and has been intentionally spreading dissension and lies the entire time he has posted on this board. He's also banned for lying and using several sock accounts to continue to do so.

I only responded to him at all so other posters could recognize him as a banned liar. 

If you can't see the difference there, it's because his is one of your biggest allies on topics we can't discuss on this board and you are letting that creep in.  

 

 

I have no sock accounts.

 

I am a doctor.
 

You keep calling me a liar without basis. 

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2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

There are not definitive conclusions or data on the issues I highlighted in that post, and I think that all the ad hominem name calling does a disservice to what is an interesting discussion especially for people reading along that are not as versed in the data and its context.  So I'll go with "no bullshit". But carry on pods. 

 

Ad hominem against a poster banned for lying that is now using a sock account to be a new poster?

It's not me calling him a liar. It was the entire site that voted him out. 

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1 minute ago, Lobo said:

Doctor of what?  

Don't bother. He's admitted he's GRHorn, who was banned by everyone. That's all I cared about, that people know the poster they are talking to and are able to judge their relative credibility. 

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2 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Doctor of what?  

Medicine

2 minutes ago, Pods said:

Ad hominem against a poster banned for lying that is now using a sock account to be a new poster?

It's not me calling him a liar. It was the entire site that voted him out. 

I wasn’t banned for lying. I was banned for trolling CR. I’ve kept it decidedly non CR here. 

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1 minute ago, Muy Frio said:

No this one was only started after the sourcing. Check the dates. 

You should be a lawyer the way you parse words.  Weren't you the one of accusing me of having socks a week or two ago?  It's all projection with you motherfuckers.  You figure you're doing something, that means everyone is doing it.

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6 hours ago, Muy Frio said:

Here’s some potentially reassuring data for those that are worried about their unvaccinated kids and school. 

Symptoms reported by parents. Only 4% of kids still experiencing symptoms at 4 weeks. 2% at 8 weeks. Most common symptoms fatigue, headache, loss of smell. 
 

This is a marked improvement over the 10-30% long covid numbers I’ve seen thrown around here. 

 

Self-report by parental proxy with substantial attrition before they could meet the case definition due to loss of follow-up.  They also omit some important long covid symptom domains. Likely substantially underestimates incidence of long covid. Relatively limited and weak data point imo.   

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4 minutes ago, Captainant said:

dawww cmon now, don't act like @William Wallace wasn't you! That one started literally an hour after you got crowdsourced and had the same pattern as this account before getting crowdsourced

I would’ve never done the cringe posts that guy did on the crypto thread. 
 

7 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

You should be a lawyer the way you parse words.  Weren't you the one of accusing me of having socks a week or two ago?  It's all projection with you motherfuckers.  You figure you're doing something, that means everyone is doing it.

You’re getting posters confused. Wasn’t me. 

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37 minutes ago, Pods said:

This isn't surprising. It's the same signal we've seen everywhere else. I posted last week about similar numbers in Houston, LA and Chicago. Places with higher vaccination rates will have higher percentages of breakthrough hospitalizations. That's the people available to infect. It's going to go up, but as long as it stays below the percent vaccinated in the overall population, it shows the vaccines are still working, just not as well as we'd hoped. 

Israeli data was strongly stratified. Most the breakthrough hospitalizations were over 60. May be age, may be that they were vaccinated first. 

 

Vaccines work, exhibit number 1,333,098

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3 hours ago, midtown said:

A friend in Florida is in the hospital going on 4 days now.   Late 40's maybe early 50's/   He admitted in a group chat that he was unvaxed.  He's used to live in Texas and is a complete homo-phobe and racist.   Not surprised he's unvaxed.  He tried to play it off by claiming that the nurses told him 75% of hospitalizations are vaccinated.   BULLL SHIIIIITTTT

I don’t mean this in an accusatory way, but why are you friends with a homophobic racist antivaxxer?

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4 minutes ago, drt said:

I thought he admitted he was a chiropractor early on in the pandemic 

It doesn’t matter what he admitted he is full of shit and always has been. He’s paid to spread misinformation. I’m sure he does a much better and more effective job on Facebook than he does here. I’m not sure why he bothers here but whatever. 

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3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

 

 

Delta wave getting everybody in a pissy mood. 

It probably should. I’m waiting for the decrease in numbers before the fall that some dude predicted because delta burns fast. Hope he is right and that happens because the alternative is...not good.

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I don’t mean this in an accusatory way, but why are you friends with a homophobic racist antivaxxer?
Not friends. He's in our fantasy football league. I don't really associate with him. But I did think the same thing when I was typing that out
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10 minutes ago, drt said:

I thought he admitted he was a chiropractor early on in the pandemic 

So what?  Who do you go visit when you have covid-19 symptoms, a physician?  Pussy.  

Actually, I have nothing against chiropractic---used it a few times.  But I would real fucking skeptical of a medical practice, during Covid-19, that involves somebody breathing  over you for 30 minutes...followed by an intense rearrangement of the bones in/near my respiratory system.  

Somebody on here awhile back on the NSFW forum posted some videos of "chiropractic porn" with smoking hot women in yoga pants getting adjusted.  I watched it again recently and realized no matter how attractive the patient, no matter what ails them, no matter their age or whatever...the chiropractor---if you can look past the soft core smut and the ladies moaning---does the exact fucking treatment to everybody.  Why even bother with the whole patient history/consultation phase and just get to the 8-point plan.  GRhorn's patient information paper is worth about as much as the paper his diploma is printed on.  

 

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4 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

It probably should. I’m waiting for the decrease in numbers before the fall that some dude predicted because delta burns fast. Hope he is right and that happens because the alternative is...not good.

You mean Scott Gottlieb? He’s calling a decline by Mid August. 

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  On 7/21/2021 at 3:25 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

There isn't any system that validates whether you've already had a shot or not. The place where you received the original shot(s) are maintaining those records just in case you need to prove you're vaccinated. The state or the feds don't have that record by name.

 

CA has a system.  You go to https://myvaccinerecord.cdph.ca.gov/

You put in your info.  Name, DOB, etc.  It sends you back a validation of your vaccination, including a barcode dealie.  I screenshot mine, so I've got it should I ever need it. 

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13 minutes ago, Muy Frio said:

You mean Scott Gottlieb? He’s calling a decline by Mid August. 

Don’t recall the name but that could have been him. Frankly I don’t care who predicted it I just want them to be right. I want to go to the cotton bowl in the second weekend of October during the state fair and all the anti vaxxer idiots are putting a big question mark next to that.

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4 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:
  On 7/21/2021 at 3:25 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

There isn't any system that validates whether you've already had a shot or not. The place where you received the original shot(s) are maintaining those records just in case you need to prove you're vaccinated. The state or the feds don't have that record by name.

 

CA has a system.  You go to https://myvaccinerecord.cdph.ca.gov/

You put in your info.  Name, DOB, etc.  It sends you back a validation of your vaccination, including a barcode dealie.  I screenshot mine, so I've got it should I ever need it. 

Thanks man. I honestly had no idea this existed. I was all prepared to find a laminating machine.

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2 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Thanks man. I honestly had no idea this existed. I was all prepared to find a laminating machine.

Yeah, CA's system seems to be pretty good.  For example, I got my Pfizer (COVID, not Viagra) at one of the public supervax sites, in my case at a Cal State Campus.  I get my health insurance through Kaiser.  I was surprised to see that the vax is on my medical record on the Kaiser app, and I didn't tell anybody at Kaiser. 

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8 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Don’t recall the name but that could have been him. Frankly I don’t care who predicted it I just want them to be right. I want to go to the cotton bowl in the second weekend of October during the state fair and all the anti vaxxer idiots are putting a big question mark next to that.

Oh I go every year. We should hang out. 

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Don’t recall the name but that could have been him. Frankly I don’t care who predicted it I just want them to be right. I want to go to the cotton bowl in the second weekend of October during the state fair and all the anti vaxxer idiots are putting a big question mark next to that.


Are they?

I really haven't seen much change around Austin even with the "Aggy rollercoaster in September" looking incline in cases.


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1 minute ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

I laminated a copy just in case we need boosters and they need to update the original

To clarify...you made a photocopy of your original vaccine record, laminated that copy, and left the original intact so any booster can be noted on the original card. 

You did it correctly.  

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