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7 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

No joke.  I am thinking about just unwinding the positions I took yesterday AM and pocketing the money cause this all feels illogical. 

Sell calls against your positions, easy peasy bro

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

No joke.  I am thinking about just unwinding the positions I took yesterday AM and pocketing the money cause this all feels illogical. 

Take the profit, at least enough to cover your investment.

I wish I'd sold more of my puts over the last few days, but I did cover my costs.

Posted
18 hours ago, Blotto said:

I sold the calls in the afternoon for .15 (entry price was .14 per contract) as I dont expect SPY to approach anywhere close to 440 tomorrow. So the net trade was really just the puts side which was a .15 entry and 1.20 exit. Not too shabby.

Gotta hit a few 10 baggers to pay for the ones that go sideways. And I have plenty of those as well. 

Whoa Nelly (as Keith Jackson would say) 

Shit keeps moving up, high fit the days is $0.44, currently at $0.26.

This move is going to make me look at a couple of strangles into next week

Posted
On 2/23/2022 at 1:38 PM, ATexanAbroad said:

fuck it, bought more AAPL, GOOG, MSFT, and TSLA on this dip. Havent bought anything in the past 10 days so time to average down. I also think Putin is overplaying his hand and russia is fucked. This is an overreaction from a market that hasnt been anything but hot since Trump was fondling chicas on Apprentice. 

Super pumped I did but was not happy yesterday morning

Posted
21 minutes ago, ATexanAbroad said:

think its time to start buying the dip on RSX, it is down to $7. 

Or 720 rubles.

Posted
27 minutes ago, ATexanAbroad said:

I just bought my first position of 5 I plan to take. In @ 7.85

This is a yolo move and one I'd like to participate in.  I looked at it and RSX biggest concentration is Sberbank at 8%.  Sberbank collapsed 95% today and has lost 99.9% of its value thus far.  I'm still waiting.  Saw after the close this happened

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220302006090/en/VanEck-Russia-ETF-RSX-Creation-Orders-to-Be-Suspended

Posted
21 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

This is a yolo move and one I'd like to participate in.  I looked at it and RSX biggest concentration is Sberbank at 8%.  Sberbank collapsed 95% today and has lost 99.9% of its value thus far.  I'm still waiting.  Saw after the close this happened

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220302006090/en/VanEck-Russia-ETF-RSX-Creation-Orders-to-Be-Suspended

yolo with me baby lets bathe in the gains off the blood of innocents. aka oligarching

Posted
1 hour ago, babysdaddy said:

This is a yolo move and one I'd like to participate in.  I looked at it and RSX biggest concentration is Sberbank at 8%.  Sberbank collapsed 95% today and has lost 99.9% of its value thus far.  I'm still waiting.  Saw after the close this happened

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220302006090/en/VanEck-Russia-ETF-RSX-Creation-Orders-to-Be-Suspended

That news is ironically bullish for rsx. Creation is the mechanism that pulls overpriced etf back to irs nav. (Redemption pushes underpriced etf back to nav). 
 

no creation of new shares ‘allows’ the fixed float of rsx to become untethered from , presumably, tanked underlying price. 

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That news is ironically bullish for rsx. Creation is the mechanism that pulls overpriced etf back to irs nav. (Redemption pushes underpriced etf back to nav). 
 
no creation of new shares ‘allows’ the fixed float of rsx to become untethered from , presumably, tanked underlying price. 

So it will trade purely on sentiment? Unrelated to actual values of represented companies?
Posted

It might work, and I hope it does for you guys, but why even mess with it? If you expect it to go to zero, or have an extremely long multi decade time frame, sure, give it a shot. I just don't know why. 

 

 

 

Posted
6 hours ago, babysdaddy said:


So it will trade purely on sentiment? Unrelated to actual values of represented companies?

Yeap. And we have no idea how the represented companies trade because the russian market where theyre primarily listed is frozen

Posted

Of the Russian ETF’s, isn’t RSX about the only one that is trading at a multiple of it’s underlying value? Most all of the others seem to be trading at a discount to their underlying values at this time. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Brew said:

Of the Russian ETF’s, isn’t RSX about the only one that is trading at a multiple of it’s underlying value? Most all of the others seem to be trading at a discount to their underlying values at this time. 

problem is none of the published indicative net value are correct.  some calculation may infer the value of those securities as traded on other foreign exchange (say Frankfurt or London) but on the primary exchange theyre all null

Posted
32 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

problem is none of the published indicative net value are correct.  some calculation may infer the value of those securities as traded on other foreign exchange (say Frankfurt or London) but on the primary exchange theyre all null

True.  But they've been pretty good in the past about "guessing/assuming" notional values of the underlying securities.  (granted, their value is theoretically 0 at this juncture, but that's not 100% realistic).  

 

If you think this thing won't last much longer than a few months, a decent contrarian bet would be buying the Jan '24 $10 strike calls, but the entire ETF is basically a call option at this juncture.  

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Posted

The people questioning why not buy RSX after a 90% decline are the same people that

-Didn't buy oil when it was negative

-Didnt buy American Airlines when it was $1

-wait until the upswing to buy the dip

Do you think the economy of Russia is just going away? There could be a peace deal next week or Russia could pull out. It will 3x that day. Worst case, Russia somehow never has the sanctions lifted? I don't see that happening. "When there is blood in the streets start buying". There is literal blood in the streets. 

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Posted

Watching to markets the last several months is like watching Roulette in Vegas and I put my money on red and just watching it spin and spin up and down up and down for no apparent reason other than going around. 

Posted
9 minutes ago, ATexanAbroad said:

and yet, amazingly, it always comes back doesnt it...

China cash-printing internet giants (baba, baidu, jd, etc) just dropped 50% from recent highs. It approached the local “low” we knew as the 2020 crisis. China is not involved in a war. 
 

Where it go from here?

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Posted
2 hours ago, 52-80 said:

problem is none of the published indicative net value are correct.  some calculation may infer the value of those securities as traded on other foreign exchange (say Frankfurt or London) but on the primary exchange theyre all null

Agreed, but the estimates on valuations that are out there show RSX to be trading at a 2X+ multiple of estimated values while others are trading at 40%.

Posted
1 hour ago, ATexanAbroad said:

The people questioning why not buy RSX after a 90% decline are the same people that

-Didn't buy oil when it was negative

-Didnt buy American Airlines when it was $1

-wait until the upswing to buy the dip

Do you think the economy of Russia is just going away? There could be a peace deal next week or Russia could pull out. It will 3x that day. Worst case, Russia somehow never has the sanctions lifted? I don't see that happening. "When there is blood in the streets start buying". There is literal blood in the streets. 

There are a number of Russian ETF’s. The question was why RSX was the one to look at over some of the others that may be trading under estimated valuations rather than over.

Posted
16 minutes ago, Brew said:

There are a number of Russian ETF’s. The question was why RSX was the one to look at over some of the others that may be trading under estimated valuations rather than over.

large cap russian equity vs something like rsxj that might be small cap and its highly concentrated in the blue bloods of russia as opposed to having maybe 50-200 different companies. 

Posted
12 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

Its a further -40% from there (50 to 30 now)

personally I dont have much interest in the China ETF and havent watched their markets. I am specifically speaking of the russian etf rsx due to the swift plunge to 80-90%. 

Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, ATexanAbroad said:

The people questioning why not buy RSX after a 90% decline are the same people that

-Didn't buy oil when it was negative

-Didnt buy American Airlines when it was $1

-wait until the upswing to buy the dip

Do you think the economy of Russia is just going away? There could be a peace deal next week or Russia could pull out. It will 3x that day. Worst case, Russia somehow never has the sanctions lifted? I don't see that happening. "When there is blood in the streets start buying". There is literal blood in the streets. 

Watch Putin nationalize all the oil, metals companies. Kidding.....sort of. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Blotto said:

Watch Putin nationalize all the oil, metals companies. Kidding.....sort of. 

this is part of the risk.  But if Poots gets whacked, to the fucking moon.  Still haven't bought. $5 was my target buy price but may lower it to 50 cents!

Posted

Blaming all this inflation on Russia makes no sense. It's like when gas shot up from hurricanes in the Gulf that didn't effect production. Inflation was getting crazy in November '21.

 

Here's a pipe dream

 

 

 

Posted
On 1/21/2022 at 3:11 PM, FirstTimeCaller said:

I hated that money anyway. 

You rang?

Posted

Woooooof. I'm mostly index funds (bad enough) the few individual holdings (all major mega-caps) are all down way more than the market. I sure can pick them.

Me no invest good.

Posted
On 3/5/2022 at 8:42 AM, ATexanAbroad said:

RSX seems to have found support in the 5s so yea time to buy

"finding support" and " CBOE is halting trading" arent quite the same thing. Will be interesting to watch the price action when (if)they ultimately resume trading. I guess they are halted until the Russian markets open again? 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Blotto said:

"finding support" and " CBOE is halting trading" arent quite the same thing. Will be interesting to watch the price action when (if)they ultimately resume trading. I guess they are halted until the Russian markets open again? 

I would assume so, but even before it halted it bounced off the low 5 somethings hard and went back into 6, back into 5 afterhours an then was halted. It will be interesting. 

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