The Surly Official 2020 Corching Search Thread of DOOM and DESPAIR

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32 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Bijan could win a Heisman in Kubiak's offense.  I have no idea how the rest of the team would look - but I know that we would run the hell out of the ball.

And Card running a bootleg  with Sanders/Wiley acting as the Owen Daniels/Julius Thomas with TroyO running the Andre Johnson/Demaryius Thomas deep cross...the offense would absolutely work. I hated Kubiak with the Texans...but Schaub limited that offense and he still passed for a billion yards. This idea is REALLY growing on me and also makes me  want to vomit

Pros-

-Proven offense

-Has won in that past (4 rings including 1 as a headcoach)

-Zone running will win Bijan a fucking heisman...his upside is a better Arian Foster/Dalvin Cook and that's not hyperbole

-Is a great relator and overall charismatic dude, could play well with recruits and absolutely will kill it with parents

-Has  a deep rolodex of coaches and is well connected

-QBs will love to play for him and he can mask deficiencies in the OL with his zone blocking scheme

-Wouldnt be the long  term guy but could absolutely help locate the next guy and  stabilize things

Cons-

-Hasnt touched the college game since he  was a position coach for aggy decades ago

-aggy

-Older with health issues... but this would be viewed   as a stop gap anyway IMO

-No clue how he would recruit. Would need to bring some rainmakers with him

-I dont like his face and its  hard to look past his time with  the texans

 

Hell idk...at this point its just me trying rationalize whether we run headfirst imto a  pile ofshit or we  jump into abarrell ofsshi...either way we are going to get covered in  shit...just need to figure. It was Urban or bust..now here we are

[The Dog 44074]

2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I cannot handle even the notion of this school hiring a milquetoast dipshit like Gary Kubiag. What scares me is that we might be living in The Matrix and the hiring of Kubiag at Texas is exactly what would happen in The Matrix because it hates us and wants us to be miserable. 

I don't give one fuck what Nahlin, Hamilton, or anyone else wants to rationalize about Kubiag. He'd be a laughable failure at Texas and ensures another half decade+ of our irrelevance and laughingstock status as a program. Christ.

I'm curious why you are so down on the idea and how you are so convinced he'd be a failure. I know you are privy to more information than someone who just surfs the net for info like I and most other do. 

[UncleBuck 6455]

1 minute ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Maybe the college game is perfect for him - he can't start a QB for more than 4 years.

I'm not advocating for Kubs, but we'd always have a good QB. The top ones will want to come play for him, and they'd be coached right when they did. Receivers and OL would follow. RBs. It's just all of the other stuff that would worry me.

[Hiphopopotamos 20876]

2 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Hell idk...at this point its just me trying rationalize whether we run headfirst imto a  pile ofshit or we  jump into abarrell ofsshi...either way we are going to get covered in  shit...just need to figure. It was Urban or bust..now here we are

Yep.  I can convince myself that every option is a great option at this point.

I'm like one of those suburban housewives with the shitty hashtags on their gram photos:

#teamTraylor #teamKubiak #teamNapier #teamMullen #teamElliot #teamCampbell #teamTeamwork #teamTrusttree #teamjustgoingdaybyday #teameveryoneisawinner

[C-Man 27247]

Where does everybody fall on Billy Napier? Spent time at Clemson and Alabama. Beat Matt Campbell's ass this season.

[Burt Macklin 19038]

2 minutes ago, IDIOTsavant said:

There would absolutely be growing pains, but he's one of the few candidates with real growth potential beyond what he is right now. I think Napier has already gone through those for the most part and is probably ready for a bigger job, but this is all guesswork for me because none of these guys have ever been in my kitchen.

Mrs. Idiotsavant might have something to say about that. 

 

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1 minute ago, C-Man said:

Where does everybody fall on Billy Napier? Spent time at Clemson and Alabama. Beat Matt Campbell's ass this season.

I'd take him over Herman.  Heard him on the radio, sharp guy, enthusiastic, very authentic.  And he's been around successful guys.  I actually don't mind Napier.  Seems driven.

[UncleBuck 6455]

4 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

 

 

. It was Urban or bust..now here we are

It's 1:30AM and the bar clock is always ahead. Straighten your eyes as straight as you can get 'em and pick one!

Regret later!

[Newy25 7703]

I’m definitely living in the Matrix where we are actually discussing Gary F.  Kubiak. 
 

Cons- 

He would suck at recruiting and relating to high school players. He would largely ignore the defense and be a vapid cunt to all of the alumni and BMDs. He has significant health issues that would limit his involvement in some aspects of the program. He would likely be a gigantic failure at the college level. 
 

Pros- 

He would design good running plays and zone blocking schemes. At least for the first 2-3 years before his lack of recruiting would sink his own offense. He also might die on the job which could limit our buyout exposure. 
 

 

Edited December 8, 2020 by Newy25

[IDIOTsavant 8502]

4 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Mrs. Idiotsavant might have something to say about that. 

 

How would she know? She's never been in my kitchen either.

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3 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

I’m definitely living in the Matrix where we are actually discussing Gary F.  Kubiak. 
 

Cons- 

He would suck at recruiting and relating to high school players. He would largely ignore the defense and be a vapid cunt to all if the alumni and BMDs. He has significant health issues that would limit his involvement in some aspects of the program. He would likely be a gigantic failure at the college level. 
 

Pros- 

He would design good running plays and zone blocking schemes. At least for the first 2-3 years before his lack of recruiting would sink his own offensive. He also might die on the job which could limit our buyout exposure. 
 

 

Didn't we used to crush Nunez and Greg Davis on zone blocking?  "we get the best athletes, let's just put hat on hat and wear the opponent down"  I seem to remember that

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1 minute ago, The Dog said:

I'm curious why you are so down on the idea and how you are so convinced he'd be a failure. I know you are privy to more information than someone who just surfs the net for info like I and most other do. 

I'm not privy to anything regarding the future for Kubiag or anyone else that winds up coaching at Texas, any more than you or anyone else. I just don't see what would have anyone inspired about the guy. 

1) He hasn't recruited or coached in CFB in forever. He's going to know who to hire for recruiting purposes? Right.

2) His offense at the pro level means dick at the college level. This isn't some genius I'd expect to figure it out quickly, either.

3) The guy is as interesting and dynamic as drying paint. That's going to play in living rooms, press conferences and meet and greets? Right.

4) He's literally a mouth-breathing aggie. How is that not an issue? He's simply not an overly intelligent guy. An NFL lifer who knows nothing outside of that bubble.

So he comes in and the Mannings like him or some shit. So what? He gets a bunch of hype from his NFL background by guys in the press, who are the same guys that will then immediately begin denigrating his every move as well. Then he tries to play Turtle Tom/NFL football by getting a two score lead in games and taking the air out of the football. How's that going to play in the Big 12? 

It's a fucktarded premise. I shit on the Herman hire from the jump. I knew Chuckles was going to be a complete failure the minute it became obvious he was set on bringing in Shawn Watson and playing charades about chasing others to do it. I'd like to at least feel like there's some element of hope and growth with the next guy, for at least one offseason. Gary Kubiag shows up with old man stink and completely stales up the entire football program. Honestly, give me another year of Tom Herman, which isn't happening, versus Gary fucking Kubiag. 

[Tex Pete 20429]

10 minutes ago, The Dog said:

I'm curious why you are so down on the idea and how you are so convinced he'd be a failure. I know you are privy to more information than someone who just surfs the net for info like I and most other do. 

I am curious why anyone would think hiring a shitty coach who would be doomed from the start is a good idea, but we've done it repeatedly in my lifetime.

[El Hornarino 374]

Hoping Kubiak and most of the IT list are red herrings.  Or 9.95 ass-pulls.

[DigglerontheHoof 21209]

Well our best coach ever was an Okie who played for the Sooners, so...

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5 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I'm not privy to anything regarding the future for Kubiag or anyone else that winds up coaching at Texas, any more than you or anyone else. I just don't see what would have anyone inspired about the guy. 

1) He hasn't recruited or coached in CFB in forever. He's going to know who to hire for recruiting purposes? Right.

2) His offense at the pro level means dick at the college level. This isn't some genius I'd expect to figure it out quickly, either.

3) The guy is as interesting and dynamic as drying paint. That's going to play in living rooms, press conferences and meet and greets? Right.

4) He's literally a mouth-breathing aggie. How is that not an issue? He's simply not an overly intelligent guy. An NFL lifer who knows nothing outside of that bubble.

So he comes in and the Mannings like him or some shit. So what? He gets a bunch of hype from his NFL background by guys in the press, who are the same guys that will then immediately begin denigrating his every move as well. Then he tries to play Turtle Tom/NFL football by getting a two score lead in games and taking the air out of the football. How's that going to play in the Big 12? 

It's a fucktarded premise. I shit on the Herman hire from the jump. I knew Chuckles was going to be a complete failure the minute it became obvious he was set on bringing in Shawn Watson and playing charades about chasing others to do it. I'd like to at least feel like there's some element of hope and growth with the next guy, for at least one offseason. Gary Kubiag shows up with old man stink and completely stales up the entire football program. Honestly, give me another year of Tom Herman, which isn't happening, versus Gary fucking Kubiag. 

Have you heard who is the leader in the clubhouse?  Are they gonna wait till we flame out on Mullen?  I know you may be unable to share or may not have anything to share, just curious.  I feel like with Harbaugh staying, we may have our sites set on Campbell, who I think will be better than Herm.

[Viper 12111]

5 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I'm not privy to anything regarding the future for Kubiag or anyone else that winds up coaching at Texas, any more than you or anyone else. I just don't see what would have anyone inspired about the guy. 

1) He hasn't recruited or coached in CFB in forever. He's going to know who to hire for recruiting purposes? Right.

2) His offense at the pro level means dick at the college level. This isn't some genius I'd expect to figure it out quickly, either.

3) The guy is as interesting and dynamic as drying paint. That's going to play in living rooms, press conferences and meet and greets? Right.

4) He's literally a mouth-breathing aggie. How is that not an issue? He's simply not an overly intelligent guy. An NFL lifer who knows nothing outside of that bubble.

So he comes in and the Mannings like him or some shit. So what? He gets a bunch of hype from his NFL background by guys in the press, who are the same guys that will then immediately begin denigrating his every move as well. Then he tries to play Turtle Tom/NFL football by getting a two score lead in games and taking the air out of the football. How's that going to play in the Big 12? 

It's a fucktarded premise. I shit on the Herman hire from the jump. I knew Chuckles was going to be a complete failure the minute it became obvious he was set on bringing in Shawn Watson and playing charades about chasing others to do it. I'd like to at least feel like there's some element of hope and growth with the next guy, for at least one offseason. Gary Kubiag shows up with old man stink and completely stales up the entire football program. Honestly, give me another year of Tom Herman, which isn't happening, versus Gary fucking Kubiag. 

how would you rank, or tier the realistic names out there?

[LTtxfan 49328]

5 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I'm not privy to anything regarding the future for Kubiag or anyone else that winds up coaching at Texas, any more than you or anyone else. I just don't see what would have anyone inspired about the guy. 

1) He hasn't recruited or coached in CFB in forever. He's going to know who to hire for recruiting purposes? Right.

2) His offense at the pro level means dick at the college level. This isn't some genius I'd expect to figure it out quickly, either.

3) The guy is as interesting and dynamic as drying paint. That's going to play in living rooms, press conferences and meet and greets? Right.

4) He's literally a mouth-breathing aggie. How is that not an issue? He's simply not an overly intelligent guy. An NFL lifer who knows nothing outside of that bubble.

So he comes in and the Mannings like him or some shit. So what? He gets a bunch of hype from his NFL background by guys in the press, who are the same guys that will then immediately begin denigrating his every move as well. Then he tries to play Turtle Tom/NFL football by getting a two score lead in games and taking the air out of the football. How's that going to play in the Big 12? 

It's a fucktarded premise. I shit on the Herman hire from the jump. I knew Chuckles was going to be a complete failure the minute it became obvious he was set on bringing in Shawn Watson and playing charades about chasing others to do it. I'd like to at least feel like there's some element of hope and growth with the next guy, for at least one offseason. Gary Kubiag shows up with old man stink and completely stales up the entire football program. Honestly, give me another year of Tom Herman, which isn't happening, versus Gary fucking Kubiag. 

So besides Urban, who are your realistic choices for the next Head Coach at TEXAS??

[Tex-19 2872]

I almost look at Kubiak as a 3 year stopgap who is the choice if we don't like the alternatives available. Pair with an elite staff and recruiters, stabilize the program, then move on. With the right infrastructure behind him, I think he'd recruit fine. Better than a lame duck staff for sure. Walking into a living room with 4 SB rings and dialing up Steve Young, Elway, or Manning is a pretty persuasive pitch all on its own. Run game would be excellent, so just make sure he has an elite DC, OC, and recruiters with that war chest of HC salary savings. 2-3 years later, promote a coordinator or pull a more attractive candidate who's available at the time

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3 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

I almost look at Kubiak as a 3 year stopgap who is the choice if we don't like the alternatives available. Pair with an elite staff and recruiters, stabilize the program, then move on. With the right infrastructure behind him, I think he'd recruit fine. Better than a lame duck staff for sure. Walking into a living room with 4 SB rings and dialing up Steve Young, Elway, or Manning is a pretty persuasive pitch all on its own. Run game would be excellent, so just make sure he has an elite DC, OC, and recruiters with that war chest of HC salary savings. 2-3 years later, promote a coordinator or pull a more attractive candidate who's available at the time

Kub "I played with Elway, coached Young, Manning and Schaub"

Players parent "wait Schaub? Who?"

Kub "yep, got him to the pro bowl."

[Landomatic 3813]

Kubiak has a Bill Callahan feel to him.  Ask nebraska how that worked out for them.  pass

[Burt Macklin 19038]

2 minutes ago, El Hornarino said:

Hoping Kubiak and most of the IT list are red herrings.  Or 9.95 ass-pulls.

While I agree in general, IT is by far the most plugged in outlet covering Texas right now, and it's not even close.  Burton has legit connections at the top and the other IT guys are more plugged in with players/parents than any other source, plus Gerry has really good national connections, including agents.  Their potential coaching list is going to be more accurate than any other outlet.

9 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I'm not privy to anything regarding the future for Kubiag or anyone else that winds up coaching at Texas, any more than you or anyone else. I just don't see what would have anyone inspired about the guy. 

1) He hasn't recruited or coached in CFB in forever. He's going to know who to hire for recruiting purposes? Right.

2) His offense at the pro level means dick at the college level. This isn't some genius I'd expect to figure it out quickly, either.

3) The guy is as interesting and dynamic as drying paint. That's going to play in living rooms, press conferences and meet and greets? Right.

4) He's literally a mouth-breathing aggie. How is that not an issue? He's simply not an overly intelligent guy. An NFL lifer who knows nothing outside of that bubble.

So he comes in and the Mannings like him or some shit. So what? He gets a bunch of hype from his NFL background by guys in the press, who are the same guys that will then immediately begin denigrating his every move as well. Then he tries to play Turtle Tom/NFL football by getting a two score lead in games and taking the air out of the football. How's that going to play in the Big 12? 

It's a fucktarded premise. I shit on the Herman hire from the jump. I knew Chuckles was going to be a complete failure the minute it became obvious he was set on bringing in Shawn Watson and playing charades about chasing others to do it. I'd like to at least feel like there's some element of hope and growth with the next guy, for at least one offseason. Gary Kubiag shows up with old man stink and completely stales up the entire football program. Honestly, give me another year of Tom Herman, which isn't happening, versus Gary fucking Kubiag. 

Kubiak gives me Mike Sherman at A&M vibes, except with more nepotism and being a way worse culture fit at Texas.  I don't think there's anyway I could convince myself that he'd work or get even remotely excited for next season.  I could almost maaaybe talk myself into him if it were a few years earlier and he had some wunderkind at OC, like Kevin Stefanski, but instead we'll get Klint Kubiak, who's only accomplishment in life is climbing the nepotism ladder.  Seriously, Klint has coached at A&M, Denver (when his dad was there) and Minnesota.  Even if Gary somehow succeeded, he'd do everything in his power to hand the program off to his idiot son who would assuredly run it into the ground anyways. 

[Michael Knight 12990]

[GabrielsHorn 2186]

19 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Where does everybody fall on Billy Napier? Spent time at Clemson and Alabama. Beat Matt Campbell's ass this season.

Better than Herman, but watching some of ULL's games this year, he's able to get by baffling coaching decisions with talent. The App State game is a good example of that.

Also, the Traylor talk is odd to me. Could he succeed? Sure, if everything hits right. However, we've seen how bad things can go when you don't hit everything right and how a HC is more than just assembling a staff. Way too early to go for him, and the Nix investigation is something that I think some people are forgetting. 

Either way, I think someone mentioned earlier that CDC identifies coaches who have built a program twice. Neither of them qualify for that distinction.

[Chili dog 1787]

2 hours ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Its a real kick in the dick that we have been so bad for so long that we don't have any real coaching pipeline to draw from.  

I said upthread that I'm at the point that all I have left is the blind optimism of an idiot fan.  So thats what I'm rolling with.  I could be talked into any one of Campbell, Kubiak, Sark, Cristobal, Traylor, Elliot, Venebles,  Napier, (but not Allen - fuck that guy). 

Put them up on the podium next to CDC and I'll be convinced they were the right and best choice for the job.

Why are we out on Allen? He’s one of the most impressive coaches out there, to me. He was a high school coach for a while, which I always think helps coaches relate to other high school coaches. Similar path to the one Traylor is on, though not exact. 

[Al_4_ISU 12475]

2 hours ago, Fud said:

One of my best friends coached under him in the past, and he told me that Campbell was a Midwest area lifer because he thought that he could recruit and evaluate the best in the area to help him maximize his success, and that his dream jobs were the major programs in the area, with Notre Dame and then Ohio State at the top. He's also content to win and grow as a coach at ISU, but I don't think he wants to be a lifer there because I do think he aspires to win championships, and he can't wait around forever for the stars to align for one of the three or four major jobs in that area, because you never know what those schools will do. 

But I also know that Campbell was interested in the Texas job in the past, and I've heard that Texas has been the one job outside of the region that his piqued his interest. But maybe his thought of coaching at Texas has sourced since then, or maybe the thought of coaching against ISU every year is starting to sink in, I don't know, but if it comes down to it, I think it would be tough to turn Texas down at something near double the current salary, even if money isn't a primary driver. I do think he takes Michigan over Texas or staying at ISU if it opens up, but the Michigan job opening up seems to be up in the air. 

Regarding recruiting ties in the area, it looks like he's been recruiting a little more in Texas lately, with four signees in 2020, and three commits in 2021 (would have been four had Texas not flipped the QB). I could get more granular by looking at offers, but that's probably not worth spending the time for. 

 

 

I think he just keeps waiting for one of the 3 between ND, Michigan, or Ohio State.  Ohio State seems unlikely to open any time soon, but even if Michigan extends Harbaugh, it won't be that long, and Kelly's no spring chicken.   If he gets a natty in the next couple years, he probably retires.

None of those jobs require him to coach against ISU on an annual basis, either.

[Landomatic 3813]

4 minutes ago, Chili dog said:

Why are we out on Allen? He’s one of the most impressive coaches out there, to me. He was a high school coach for a while, which I always think helps coaches relate to other high school coaches. Similar path to the one Traylor is on, though not exact. 

You talking about Randy Allen?  Good coach. Not sure hes ready for UT though

[Sir Ulrich 5188]

3 minutes ago, Chili dog said:

Why are we out on Allen? He’s one of the most impressive coaches out there, to me. He was a high school coach for a while, which I always think helps coaches relate to other high school coaches. Similar path to the one Traylor is on, though not exact. 

Was out on him when I saw this spot on Gameday a few weeks back. He is just PJ Fleck with glasses. 

 

[Landomatic 3813]

3 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I think he just keeps waiting for one of the 3 between ND, Michigan, or Ohio State.  Ohio State seems unlikely to open any time soon, but even if Michigan extends Harbaugh, it won't be that long, and Kelly's no spring chicken.   If he gets a natty in the next couple years, he probably retires.

None of those jobs require him to coach against ISU on an annual basis, either.

Don’t forget Nebraska if Frost doesn’t work out.  He’d be a good fit there too I would think.

[Fud 9552]

5 minutes ago, Chili dog said:

Why are we out on Allen? He’s one of the most impressive coaches out there, to me. He was a high school coach for a while, which I always think helps coaches relate to other high school coaches. Similar path to the one Traylor is on, though not exact. 

Allen is at his dream job, like Pat Fitzgerald and David Shaw 

[Chili dog 1787]

1 minute ago, Fud said:

Allen is at his dream job, like Pat Fitzgerald and David Shaw 

Really? Didn’t know that, but I’m not reading every post on here, I must admit. Jobs and kids and all. 

[clapclapclap 9000]

4 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

Was out on him when I saw this spot on Gameday a few weeks back. He is just PJ Fleck with glasses. 

 

P. J. Roseanne

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8 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

Was out on him when I saw this spot on Gameday a few weeks back. He is just PJ Fleck with glasses. 

 

Tom Arnold has been working out I see!

[RGBIII 22840]

14 minutes ago, Chili dog said:

Why are we out on Allen? He’s one of the most impressive coaches out there, to me. He was a high school coach for a while, which I always think helps coaches relate to other high school coaches. Similar path to the one Traylor is on, though not exact. 

He loves Indiana more than Leslie Knope

[gmr548 16590]

Didn't we used to crush Nunez and Greg Davis on zone blocking?  "we get the best athletes, let's just put hat on hat and wear the opponent down"  I seem to remember that

Greg Davis was a firm believer in the no blocking scheme.

[TXpride 550]

8 minutes ago, Landomatic said:

Don’t forget Nebraska if Frost doesn’t work out.  He’d be a good fit there too I would think.

Lateral move at this point.

[BradInATX 9208]

Why would we go after Tom Allen when there's another "took a historically terrible program to new heights" guy who has done it better, for longer, and actually in our conference and not a dogshit conference that runs 30 year old schemes with a bunch of slow white dudes.

Edited December 8, 2020 by BradInATX

[Al_4_ISU 12475]

9 minutes ago, Landomatic said:

Don’t forget Nebraska if Frost doesn’t work out.  He’d be a good fit there too I would think.

I don't see that one happening at all.  At this point, I don't know what Nebraska offers him that we don't, frankly.

Edited December 8, 2020 by Al_4_ISU

[Chili dog 1787]

1 minute ago, TXpride said:

Lateral move at this point.

ISU to Nebraska will never be a lateral move. 

[ClubWhatever 12154]

2 minutes ago, Chili dog said:

ISU to Nebraska will never be a lateral move. 

Neg rep for poor geography skills

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9 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Have you heard who is the leader in the clubhouse?  Are they gonna wait till we flame out on Mullen?  I know you may be unable to share or may not have anything to share, just curious.  I feel like with Harbaugh staying, we may have our sites set on Campbell, who I think will be better than Herm.

 

8 minutes ago, Viper said:

how would you rank, or tier the realistic names out there?

 

7 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

So besides Urban, who are your realistic choices for the next Head Coach at TEXAS??

I am looking at things like this:

Tier 1 - The Job Is Yours If You Change Your Mind & We Haven't Filled It

Urban Meyer - dude is a flake. Crazier shit has happened, but folks I trust think this one is gone. Remember that no one knew shit at any level below the BOR, Hartsell, a reluctant CDC, and a very few BMDs. Now everyone says it's done? I'll go with that, but it doesn't make a lot of sense with only the current data set.

Tier 2 - Sure, Why Not, But I Don't Buy It

Dan Mullen - the premise that UF is a better spot to be in than UT for head coach is debatable. The path to the CFP is clearer here. We could pay him more if he wanted the gig. He'd need to hire Muschamp or someone better than what he has at DC. I'm guessing this is mostly just agent salary-pumping but it's not unthinkable as some seem to believe.

Tier 3 - Guys I'd Take & Rationalize My Way Into Getting Excited Aboout

Matt Campbell - I said this elsewhere, but the bullshit about him not having Texas ties is just that. Coaching fucking travels. See coaches Rhule and Saban for having no ties and magically overcoming this insurmountable problem. It's simply not a legitimate whine. The premise that he wouldn't leave ISU for Texas is also fucking dumb. Get over your self-loathing and get over the ISU guys fantasizing about his love of the midwest. Throw numbers and control at this guy and let's find out what is real.

Billy Napier - Sure, why not. I like the pedigree. He turned down being interested in the South Carolina job because he'll be first in line for the Auburn job whenever they've decided that Gus Malzahn can go get fucked. He'd be all over the Texas gig. He can coach. He can recruit. He'd probably also bring in a new group of Not Ready for Prime Time Players regarding staff and admin. Maybe he learned enough under Saban to not do that, but I doubt it.

Tier 4 - Guys I'd Like Texas to Interview But They Won't

Jeff Traylor - I agree with everything Gerry has written and pushed about this guy. I also know it ain't happening. 

Brent Venables - We're simply too patrician to consider a coordinator in their prime.

Bob Stoops - Too fucking complicated for both sides. This guy has a fundamental belief that he'll die on the sidelines like his dad if he ever goes back to really giving a fuck on the sidelines.

Mike Gundy - Puke on this one all you like, but he's a damned good coach and knows the conference and the region. What could Matt Campbell do at Texas that this guy couldn't?

Tier 5 - Fantasies For Imbeciles

Chris Peterson - stop bringing him up. Fuck.

Mack Brown - Go fuck yourself for mentioning him.

Kyle Shanahan - Dude has no interest in recruiting and he's not exactly a beaming alum when it comes to his views on UT. 

Tier 6 - Open Forehead, Insert Bullet

Gary Kubiag - I've enumerated all of the ways in which I despise this fucking concept. Fuck IT for floating him and fuck the admin for talking to him in the first place. 

Steve Sarkisian - What the fuck? This is a guy that CDC apparently likes. Here's a scenario in which the BMDs would be helpful in stepping in and saying "uh, no, not happening."

James Franklin - CDC's boy. Go fuck yourself. 

Sonny Dykes - How lost is Chris Del Conte right now? This name is being floated as a candidate from Belmont, based on how I'm seeing it reported. Hot Christ.

Joe Brady - He badly failed his first big HC interview with a key question that he couldn't answer being "What would your staff look like?" Sound familiar? No thanks anytime soon, young'un.

Tier 7 - Roll Out the Lukewarm Corpse of Lee Corso Over This Guy

Tom Herman - pack your bags, you fucking fuck.

I'm sure I missed some guys that will be mentioned. Very little of this post is anything but my opinion.

 

[Al_4_ISU 12475]

4 minutes ago, Chili dog said:

ISU to Nebraska will never be a lateral move. 

He's already turned down interviews with Tennessee and Florida State.  Maybe ISU isn't a better job than Nebraska, but those two certainly could be.

If Campbell ends up at Nebraska, he'll get there the same way Hoiberg did:  by flaming out at his next job and washing up there.

Edited December 8, 2020 by Al_4_ISU

[TXpride 550]

1 minute ago, Chili dog said:

ISU to Nebraska will never be a lateral move. 

His chances of winning an NC at Nebraska are no better than at ISU (around 0.0001%). Money would be the only reason to move.

[closetohumping 17456]

4 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

He's already turned down interviews with Tennessee and Florida State.  Maybe ISU isn't a better job than Nebraska, but those two certainly could be.

If Campbell ends up at Nebraska, he'll get their the same way Hoiberg did:  by flaming out at his next job and washing up there.

I read somewhere that he had accepted the FSU gig?  Probably wrong, I'm in a haze.

[Hiphopopotamos 20876]

2 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

He's already turned down interviews with Tennessee and Florida State.  Maybe ISU isn't a better job than Nebraska, but those two certainly could be.

If Campbell ends up at Nebraska, he'll get their the same way Hoiberg did:  by flaming out at his next job and washing up there.

Be fair to Hoiberg - he didn't flame out so much as he was paid handsomely to allow himself to be strapped into the shit-filled dumpster fire that is Chicago Bulls basketball.

[Tigersnake 670]

3 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

He's so firmly of that Rust Belt/Great Lakes mindset, that he basically implied when he took the ISU job that it was outside the Midwest.  His stated goal was to make ISU a Big 12 home for Midwest kids, and by Midwest kids he meant Ohio, Michigan, PA.  He's recruited KC area and Oklahoma pretty well too.

As a Midwest native/lifer, I love it here.  Granted, to many in the Midwest, there's kind of two subsets - Great Lakes and Great Plains, and they're fairly different cultures.  I literally live along the line of where the merger/transition occurs.  It works for me, but I can see why others would hate it.

So... he's the coach for simple farmers? Common clay of the Midwest...?

[gmr548 16590]

Hoiberg did:  by flaming out at his next job

Me, a lifelong Bulls fan:

[Chili dog 1787]

2 minutes ago, TXpride said:

His chances of winning an NC at Nebraska are no better than at ISU (around 0.0001%). Money would be the only reason to move.

Nebraska is in the easiest division in the B1G with a tradition of championships and Heisman trophies. They have something to sell. ISU has none of that. They just have Matt Campbell. 

[Tex Pete 20429]

39 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

I almost look at Kubiak as a 3 year stopgap who is the choice if we don't like the alternatives available. Pair with an elite staff and recruiters, stabilize the program, then move on.

Absolutely will not happen. I would be in open revolt, and I know plenty of others who would be also.

FUCK GARY KUBIAK!

[Landomatic 3813]

15 minutes ago, TXpride said:

Lateral move at this point.

Don’t look now but UT and Nebraska ain’t that far apart these days.  So by that rational, I guess Campbell to UT would be a lateral move at this point?