The Surly Official 2020 Corching Search Thread of DOOM and DESPAIR

[Hiphopopotamos 21191]

36 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Penn State will probably be vacant as well. 

Penn St isn’t firing Franklin after one shit season. They’ll give him a chance to turn things around post-COVID. 

[Hiphopopotamos 21191]

28 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

How about that new TTech coach?  The Red Raiders are tied with Clemson approaching halftime.

How high are you right now?

[Fug 604]

Surprised that has Steve Sarkisian not been brought up yet...

[SDG 3336]

42 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Is it easy to win at Arizona?

Technically yes.  With salary caps and cost of living AZ is a Mecca for athletes.  Just look at how many live & train during the off season there.

if AZ ever got good ownership and management they would have a huge upper hand.   

[The Ace of Aces 5377]

I’m kinda surprised no one has thrown out Bill O’Brien, since we are throwing out equally inane ideas.  

[Longboard Horn 41351]

Paul Chryst from Wisconsin wouldn't be too bad. 

[ClubWhatever 12301]

26 minutes ago, Fug said:

Surprised that has Steve Sarkisian not been brought up yet...

He’s face down in a booth at the back

[Nicole44 22310]

I would be happy if we would just interview a handful of the names listed. Interview a few of them. Ask real questions of them. As fans, we deserve a real coaching search if we don’t have UM locked up. I know our input won’t matter but after the last two hires...we deserve better. 

[Duane Moore 5754]

1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

                         "The Girls All Get Prettier At Closing Time"

 

 

Lot of these names that seem to be 2's at 10 are going to start looking like 10's at 2 if Urban turns us down.

[Funk Doctor Spock 13284]

If not Urban, I'll take a dick punch for Lane Kiffin. Dude is a witch on the recruiting trail and knows offense. He's a skeezy motherfucker, but whatever. I'd still take Fickell over him, but I wouldn't be mad if we said Kiffin is the new corch. 

[closetohumping 17814]

1 hour ago, SDG said:

Technically yes.  With salary caps and cost of living AZ is a Mecca for athletes.  Just look at how many live & train during the off season there.

if AZ ever got good ownership and management they would have a huge upper hand.   

I could totally see it.  And Phoenix is pretty close to the OC so it’s not like you’re far away from fun.   
 

 

my question was is it really easy to deal with Seattle, San Fran and  the rams?

[SDG 3336]

3 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I could totally see it.  And Phoenix is pretty close to the OC so it’s not like you’re far away from fun.   
 

 

my question was is it really easy to deal with Seattle, San Fran and  the rams?

I can't speak about San Fran or LA, but as a lifelong Seahawks fan having good ownership goes a long ways.  When Paul A bought the team at the 11th hour, keep in mind they were moving to LA, he was all but done.  He asked football people to be football people.  That has served us well.  

[HRSchenker 2341]

If we can't get a proven winner HC and want to continue this trend of finding coaches with potential and throwing them out there, I want Bryan Harsin.

[msucolt45 4227]

If no UM, I’d go no further for a G5 than in San Antonio. Jeff Traylor, in his 1st season at UTSA, has the ‘Runners into a winning season. They only lost to BYU, in Provo, 27-20. Look at how BYU “wood shedded” every other team this year!

While Traylor was at UT, he was brought on for “recruiting” and placed as the TE coach, which has vastly been under utilized since Mack’s early years. He wasn’t retained with the TH hire and that was a mistake- IMO.

A Traylor hire will immediately help with in-state recruiting. He already has a staff at UTSA full of UT connections. Just matching TH salary would be enough and not “break the bank”!

Traylor is our best option, if/after Urban Meyer says NO!

[UTPhil2006 3930]

1 minute ago, msucolt45 said:

If no UM, I’d go no further for a G5 than in San Antonio. Jeff Traylor, in his 1st season at UTSA, has the ‘Runners into a winning season. They only lost to BYU, in Provo, 27-20. Look at how BYU “wood shedded” every other team this year!

While Traylor was at UT, he was brought on for “recruiting” and placed as the TE coach, which has vastly been under utilized since Mack’s early years. He wasn’t retained with the TH hire and that was a mistake- IMO.

A Traylor hire will immediately help with in-state recruiting. He already has a staff at UTSA full of UT connections. Just matching TH salary would be enough and not “break the bank”!

Traylor is our best option, if/after Urban Meyer says NO!

Hell. No. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 13284]

1 minute ago, msucolt45 said:

If no UM, I’d go no further for a G5 than in San Antonio. Jeff Traylor, in his 1st season at UTSA, has the ‘Runners into a winning season. They only lost to BYU, in Provo, 27-20. Look at how BYU “wood shedded” every other team this year!

While Traylor was at UT, he was brought on for “recruiting” and placed as the TE coach, which has vastly been under utilized since Mack’s early years. He wasn’t retained with the TH hire and that was a mistake- IMO.

A Traylor hire will immediately help with in-state recruiting. He already has a staff at UTSA full of UT connections. Just matching TH salary would be enough and not “break the bank”!

Traylor is our best option, if/after Urban Meyer says NO!

Honestly, I wouldn't be mad if they hired Traylor. Fuck it. I wouldn't be overjoyed, but I also wouldn't have this sense of "we're back" either. I'd just be there for the ride and see how it goes. It he fails it wouldn't be a shock, if he wins hell yeah we hit the lotto. 

[South Austin 53222]

4 minutes ago, msucolt45 said:

If no UM, I’d go no further for a G5 than in San Antonio. Jeff Traylor, in his 1st season at UTSA, has the ‘Runners into a winning season. They only lost to BYU, in Provo, 27-20. Look at how BYU “wood shedded” every other team this year!

While Traylor was at UT, he was brought on for “recruiting” and placed as the TE coach, which has vastly been under utilized since Mack’s early years. He wasn’t retained with the TH hire and that was a mistake- IMO.

A Traylor hire will immediately help with in-state recruiting. He already has a staff at UTSA full of UT connections. Just matching TH salary would be enough and not “break the bank”!

Traylor is our best option, if/after Urban Meyer says NO!

 

[Hiphopopotamos 21191]

8 minutes ago, msucolt45 said:

If no UM, I’d go no further for a G5 than in San Antonio. Jeff Traylor, in his 1st season at UTSA, has the ‘Runners into a winning season. They only lost to BYU, in Provo, 27-20. Look at how BYU “wood shedded” every other team this year!

While Traylor was at UT, he was brought on for “recruiting” and placed as the TE coach, which has vastly been under utilized since Mack’s early years. He wasn’t retained with the TH hire and that was a mistake- IMO.

A Traylor hire will immediately help with in-state recruiting. He already has a staff at UTSA full of UT connections. Just matching TH salary would be enough and not “break the bank”!

Traylor is our best option, if/after Urban Meyer says NO!

Taylor stans doing work in this thread. 

[ClubWhatever 12301]

14 minutes ago, msucolt45 said:

If no UM, I’d go no further for a G5 than in San Antonio. Jeff Traylor, in his 1st season at UTSA, has the ‘Runners into a winning season. They only lost to BYU, in Provo, 27-20. Look at how BYU “wood shedded” every other team this year!

While Traylor was at UT, he was brought on for “recruiting” and placed as the TE coach, which has vastly been under utilized since Mack’s early years. He wasn’t retained with the TH hire and that was a mistake- IMO.

A Traylor hire will immediately help with in-state recruiting. He already has a staff at UTSA full of UT connections. Just matching TH salary would be enough and not “break the bank”!

Traylor is our best option, if/after Urban Meyer says NO!

Sounds crazy but It. Just. Might. Work.  

[Reynolds Woodcock 5097]

1 hour ago, Longboard Horn said:

Paul Chryst from Wisconsin wouldn't be too bad. 

If I fell into a coma in the middle of Mack’s assistant overhaul in 2010, woke up ten years later and clicked on this thread and saw this post, I would be very fucking confused.

[Slacks 7057]

Dino Babers with Sterlin Gilbert as OC and Chris Ash as DC... Fill with kickass recruiters and go nuts.

Give me football reasons why not.

[msucolt45 4227]

If it ended up being Jeff Traylor, I’d go no further than Gary Joseph for DC. He’s been the current Katy HC for a decade plus, but there isn’t a coach in the state of Texas that can be better, schematically, than him for today’s spread offenses - hello B12.

Seriously, even without “better athletes”, his defensive players are rarely out of position and they make open-field tackles! Katy HS basically sees the best in what Texas has to offer, year in and year out, through the playoffs, and his defense is the main reason that they are always near the top.

It’s about being in position to make the play defensively! How many times did ISU find a slow/big TE open yesterday for a big gain? That is scheme and putting players into position to stop that.

[Your Mom 4969]

Can we just call a temp agency?  A one year with a contractually required parting after the season regardless of results and then just keep bringing in a new one each year for the next few years.   We'd probably get the same results we've had for the last decade at a much cheaper price.  At some point the next Saban/Meyer/Swinney will emerge and we'll be ready when he does.  

[Best served cold 159]

At least Traylor knows how to use his starting RB. He has 10 carries in the first quarter and I'm sure he'll end up with more than 16 for the game.

[South Austin 53222]

1 minute ago, msucolt45 said:

If it ended up being Jeff Traylor, I’d go no further than Gary Joseph for DC.

And then we can pull our position coaches from the Pop Warner ranks!

Jesus tap-dancing Christ.

[msucolt45 4227]

The “spread” was basically created in Texas HS football or utilized to fruition prior to anyone else, to include the college level.

Joseph has been involved in “stopping” the spread since its inception, so what do I know?

[closetohumping 17814]

Had no idea Traylor had so many nieces and nephews. 

[tonedeaf 56]

7 minutes ago, msucolt45 said:

If it ended up being Jeff Traylor, I’d go no further than Gary Joseph for DC. He’s been the current Katy HC for a decade plus, but there isn’t a coach in the state of Texas that can be better, schematically, than him for today’s spread offenses - hello B12.

Seriously, even without “better athletes”, his defensive players are rarely out of position and they make open-field tackles! Katy HS basically sees the best in what Texas has to offer, year in and year out, through the playoffs, and his defense is the main reason that they are always near the top.

It’s about being in position to make the play defensively! How many times did ISU find a slow/big TE open yesterday for a big gain? That is scheme and putting players into position to stop that.

Be interesting.  Coaching is coaching. However, lots of folks here though are demanding royalty.  

[Kevin O’Shea 279]

Lake Highlands is undefeated, why don’t we get their coach? 

[Slacks 7057]

The “spread” was basically created in Texas HS football or utilized to fruition prior to anyone else, to include the college level.

Joseph has been involved in “stopping” the spread since its inception, so what do I know?

Do we get to tell all the high schools that feed us what defense to run so most of the recruits are already familiar with their defensive responsibility when they get here?

[Nope 3151]

1 hour ago, Spider2YBanana said:

If not Urban, I'll take a dick punch for Lane Kiffin. Dude is a witch on the recruiting trail and knows offense. He's a skeezy motherfucker, but whatever. I'd still take Fickell over him, but I wouldn't be mad if we said Kiffin is the new corch. 

So you’re cool with us losing at an even higher rate 

[Born Burnt 6274]

49 minutes ago, South Austin said:

And then we can pull our position coaches from the Pop Warner ranks!

Jesus tap-dancing Christ.

No shit. Surprised this name hasn't been mentioned yet...

Spoiler

 

[BradInATX 9208]

Matt Campbell is my choice of actual realistic options.

The last thing I want is another gimmick coach to talk about the 5 core values or piss charts or eating runny eggs for a bad practice. Give me a smart coach that understands Xs and Os and demands accountability, not via gimmicks, but via leadership and consequences. If we get that, combined with our resources and brand, the rest will fall into place.

To me Campbell seems to be easily the best option based on what I'm looking for. He's not a G5 superstar nor was he a flash in the pan carried by a superstar QB like Bridgewater. He's just reliably and consistently improved Iowa State year-over and moved them out of bottom feeder tier into respectable tier. Iowa State.

Not sexy but I think Campbell puts us in the CCG almost annually as a floor.

[ckhorn 226]

You swing for the fences with Meyer and/or Shanahan. If those fail. We would do good with Campbell. He has also proved he can beat Oklahoma with bunch 2/3 stars. We have to get rid of the guy thats here 1st. 1st year in about 40 that I have watched less than three games. Call me when that douche is gone. Cristoval, Edwards, Brady, Traylor. Really!!

[ckhorn 226]

4 hours ago, gmr548 said:

I think you go for whichever of Campbell or Fickell isn’t at Michigan next year. They’d probably both take Michigan over Texas.

Negative Ghost Rider

[FloridaHorn 4887]

If not Meyer, the I wouldn’t mind Brady. Offensive mind, and a young guy who would recruit well. 

[RGBIII 23014]

1 minute ago, FloridaHorn said:

If not Meyer, the I wouldn’t mind Brady. Offensive mind, and a young guy who would recruit well. 

CDC is going to hire someone proven as a head coach 

[Tex-19 3013]

Outside of Joe Brady and the Shanahan/Rhule pipedreams, any good NFL options out there? Preferably someone with at least some college experience. Not a huge Bieniemy fan bc that's Reid's offense plus Mahomes. 

In all seriousness, I do think you at least put in a call with Rhule. See if he doesn't like the NFL as much as he hoped and wants to come back to college already. Highly unlikely but why not try. I also like Brady and you could likely get him relatively cheap and throw a ton of money at DC and other assistants.

[US183 163]

KYLE WHITTINGHAM 

[XYZ 2154]

Skippy.

[Tex-19 3013]

Even though his Texans firing was way overdue, Bill O'Brien may actually be a decent option for the college ranks. Flame away but the NFL is a different animal (ask Saban)

[cochamps 1885]

3 minutes ago, US183 said:

KYLE WHITTINGHAM 

Nice resume, but he had a horrible interview.

[BurntOrange&White 41851]

1 minute ago, Tex-19 said:

Even though his Texans firing was way overdue, Bill O'Brien may actually be a decent option for the college ranks. Flame away but the NFL is a different animal (ask Saban)

He basically built the penn state team that Franklin took over. 

[RoyalBevo21 933]

Y'all wanting all these young guys with hardly any experience are asking for Strong level disaster. If the Urban deal can't be done might as well just keep rolling with dip shit Herman. 

[Hpara759 1792]

Harsin

[Funk Doctor Spock 13284]

There's really no one proven that's going to come here if Urbs declines. That's the reality of it. We're gonna have to either keep rolling with the moron or take another chance on a G5 (Fickell) or FCS (bleh). The reality is grim. 

[Nicole44 22310]

Just on a list to interview I want to name Chadwell (Coastal Carolina Chanticleers—Black Swarm). Didn’t say to hire. Just interview. 

[Tex-19 3013]

8 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

He basically built the penn state team that Franklin took over. 

And made Hackenburg look like a top 10 pick...we saw how his career wound up

[NTVTXN 1436]

7 minutes ago, cochamps said:

Nice resume, but he had a horrible interview.

What made it horrible?

Moreover, how was Herman’s interview?  Stellar, I’m sure. 

[Burt Macklin 19230]

23 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Outside of Joe Brady and the Shanahan/Rhule pipedreams, any good NFL options out there? Preferably someone with at least some college experience. Not a huge Bieniemy fan bc that's Reid's offense plus Mahomes. 

In all seriousness, I do think you at least put in a call with Rhule. See if he doesn't like the NFL as much as he hoped and wants to come back to college already. Highly unlikely but why not try. I also like Brady and you could likely get him relatively cheap and throw a ton of money at DC and other assistants.

Brady will be an NFL HC in the next 2 years. He’s not very interested in college, and he certainly wouldn’t come cheap. 
 

 

16 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

He basically built the penn state team that Franklin took over. 

O’Brien didn’t build shit. He was there two years and then bolted. Franklin built it himself (and is now tearing it down). 

 

18 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Even though his Texans firing was way overdue, Bill O'Brien may actually be a decent option for the college ranks. Flame away but the NFL is a different animal (ask Saban)

This is a truly horrible idea. I’m not sure it’s possible to top this. 

15 minutes ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

Y'all wanting all these young guys with hardly any experience are asking for Strong level disaster. If the Urban deal can't be done might as well just keep rolling with dip shit Herman. 

Nevermind. It’s been topped. 

Edited November 28, 2020 by Burt Macklin