Yemen

[Anastasis 23474]

These motherfucking cluster bombs ain't gonna sell themselves assholes.  Good job America. Suck more Saudi cock. 

“The war had already caused an estimated 233,000 deaths, including 131,000 from indirect causes such as lack of food, health services and infrastructure”

https://news.un.org/en/story/2020/12/1078972

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

One of America’s many indefensible alliances. 

[Neonmoon 38129]

9 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

One of America’s many indefensible alliances. 

Saudi Arabia is #1 by a long shot. 

[Brisketexan 105152]

15 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

“The war had already caused an estimated 233,000 deaths,

In the Trump admin's defense, they've killed more people than that right here in the USA.  

So, what's it to you if we sell arms to the Saudis for their proxy war and maybe -- just maybe, I'm spitballing here -- the Trump family gets a shitload of favorable business dealings/loan bailouts etc. from the House of Saud?  Isn't a sweetheart deal like that worth a mere 233,000 dead brown people?  This guy thinks it's a fucking BARGAIN....

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

18 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Saudi Arabia is #1 by a long shot. 

Currently for sure.  Historically we’ve installed and protected some awful regimes. 

[Anastasis 23474]

19 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

In the Trump admin's defense, they've killed more people than that right here in the USA.  

So, what's it to you if we sell arms to the Saudis for their proxy war and maybe -- just maybe, I'm spitballing here -- the Trump family gets a shitload of favorable business dealings/loan bailouts etc. from the House of Saud?  Isn't a sweetheart deal like that worth a mere 233,000 dead brown people?  This guy thinks it's a fucking BARGAIN....

I predict that this ages nicely post Jan 2021. 

[SimonBolivar 10958]

2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Currently for sure.  Historically we’ve installed and protected some awful regimes. 

Someone has to protect the United Fruit Company from democracy. 

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

The Houthis are controlled by Iran and have continually tried to sink neutral shipping in the Red sea and have bombed cities full of civilians in their own country as well as Saudi Arabia. But throw one picture up of a starving child and we're the bad guys. Real great logic there. *News Flash* war sucks guys. Under who's administration do you think the Saudis started their intervention?

[Anastasis 23474]

51 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

Under who's administration do you think the Saudis started their intervention?

Yes, pray tell.

 

And if you don't like pictures of starving kids, maybe you prefer the pictures of US made cluster munition shrapnel at sites where a school bus full of kids was obliterated. 

 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

Saudi Arabia is #1 by a long shot. 

A textbook example of an unholy alliance.

[Fudge Nuggets 19195]

[washparkhorn 9939]

Not our best moment. Agree. Brutal. Barbaric war that no one cares about in the West. Looks like a money dispute.

 

[hookemATL 11739]

Can we get some more pics of starving war babies please?  I’m almost there...

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Yes, pray tell.

 

And if you don't like pictures of starving kids, maybe you prefer the pictures of US made cluster munition shrapnel at sites where a school bus full of kids was obliterated. 

 

 

Obama's. Which administration has done it's best to not expand America's military footprint across globe. *Not that I agree with that* (for the children who can't grasp it)

 

Is the picture of American munitions supposed to dissuade me? Do you realize the Houthis have withheld food aid to their own people and have extorted aid groups to make sure they control it's distribution? Not that that would matter to someone of your logic.

[washparkhorn 9939]

1 hour ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

The Houthis are controlled by Iran and have continually tried to sink neutral shipping in the Red sea and have bombed cities full of civilians in their own country as well as Saudi Arabia. But throw one picture up of a starving child and we're the bad guys. Real great logic there. *News Flash* war sucks guys. Under who's administration do you think the Saudis started their intervention?

Wrong question to begin with, respectfully.

Why did we start selling weapons to the House of Saud is the initial question to be agreed upon.

They are allies and held to a higher standard. The prosecution of this war by our ally was grotesque in the world's opinion - regardless of the foe. Saudis have been powerful for a long time. 

[Anastasis 23474]

7 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

Not that that would matter to someone of your logic.

My logic is pretty clear. Maybe let's not facilitate war and death and famine across the globe. Real rocket science shit, I know. 

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

2 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

Why did we start selling weapons to the House of Saud is the initial question to be agreed upon.

 

Are you asking like you don't already know the answer? Just be happy that moving forward we won't have much of reason to be involved in the ME... except for maybe giving money and cover to the worst terrorist regime of the past half century (Iran for the childish morons).

 

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

My logic is pretty clear. Maybe let's not facilitate war and death and famine across the globe. Real rocket science shit, I know. 

 

You have the logic of a child. Name one country, now or in human history, that hasn't involved themselves in others affairs to advance their interests. The real world is tough son.

 

[hpslugga 4062]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Saudi Arabia is #1 by a long shot. 

They’re tied. I shouldn’t have to tell you with whom.

[Smax 3800]

49 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Yes, pray tell.

 

And if you don't like pictures of starving kids, maybe you prefer the pictures of US made cluster munition shrapnel at sites where a school bus full of kids was obliterated. 

 

Having a hard time getting upset over effective tools of war

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

 

Oh look, another child who can't countenance having an actual discussion.

[Anastasis 23474]

20 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

You have the logic of a child. Name one country, now or in human history, that hasn't involved themselves in others affairs to advance their interests. The real world is tough son.

There are countless examples of our interventions creating blowback. I know that there are some status quo bozos that like to cuddle up under the delusion that our interventionist approaches in places like Iran and Iraq and Afghanistan and Korea and Vietnam and Central/South America has created the greatest period of peace and prosperity and democracy the world has ever seen.  What I see is jingoism creating far more long lasting problems than it solves. But yes, let's talk more about Iran. 

[Anastasis 23474]

14 minutes ago, Smax said:

Having a hard time getting upset over effective tools of war

Imagine if they only had to deal with the hardships of school during a pandemic over a chrome book.

 

 

 

 

[Hank Scorpio 17729]

If those kids don’t want to get blown up maybe they shouldn’t have pissed off the Saudi royal family. Hopefully the Saudis send them a bill for making our sweet ass bombs blow up all over them. 

[hpslugga 4062]

8 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

There are countless examples of our interventions creating blowback. I know that there are some status quo bozos that like to cuddle up under the delusion that our interventionist approaches in places like Iran and Iraq and Afghanistan and Korea and Vietnam and Central/South America has created the greatest period of peace and prosperity and democracy the world has ever seen.  What I see is jingoism creating far more long lasting problems than it solves. But yes, let's talk more about Iran. 

Well it’s like you said, they’re fucking bozos. They do believe those things. Why? Because they were told to by entities with skins in the game. It’s very perplexing because when it comes to these right wingers, they’re always 

This is like that spot in Caddyshack where Judge Smails (the government) tells Danny (the population) to ignore his repeated very illegal improvements to his ball lie...except in this analogy, Danny literally believes the justification that Smails was interfered with. 

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

8 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

There are countless examples of our interventions creating blowback. I know that there are some status quo bozos that like to cuddle up under the delusion that our interventionist approaches in places like Iran and Iraq and Afghanistan and Korea and Vietnam and Central/South America has created the greatest period of peace and prosperity and democracy the world has ever seen.  What I see is jingoism creating far more long lasting problems than it solves. But yes, let's talk more about Iran. 

 

You have a child's mentality. Interventions create Blowback? You don't say. So America is not supposed to look out for it's interests because it makes bleeding hearts cry? We should look the other way when Iran, China, and Russia make the world burn because it offends it's less aware and childish citizens? How is that realistic? It's not.

[Anastasis 23474]

This guy is a boring skipping record. 

Of course America should look out for its interests.  Overthrowing democratic outcomes is not in America's interests. Propping up barbarism is not in America's interests. Dumping arms into a fire keg is not in our interests. Pointing the finger at Iran and China and Russia and blabbering about making the world burn while having absolutely zero self awareness is not in our interest.  But tell us more about the worldview of children. 

[Anastasis 23474]

Maybe Biden proves me wrong.

 

 

[staboner 4975]

16 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

This guy is a boring skipping record. 

Of course America should look out for its interests.  Overthrowing democratic outcomes is not in America's interests. Propping up barbarism is not in America's interests. Dumping arms into a fire keg is not in our interests. Pointing the finger at Iran and China and Russia and blabbering about making the world burn while having absolutely zero self awareness is not in our interest.  But tell us more about the worldview of children. 

sorry just catching up. I was in the "market falling like whoa" thread and trying to get some good stock tips. totally agree with the bolded part here no doubt. so what stocks do I buy then?

[staboner 4975]

1 hour ago, hpslugga said:

They’re tied. I shouldn’t have to tell you with whom.

 

[Anastasis 23474]

5 minutes ago, staboner said:

sorry just catching up. I was in the "market falling like whoa" thread and trying to get some good stock tips. totally agree with the bolded part here no doubt. so what stocks do I buy then?

I remember when posters on this sub forum were fretting about the impact that Trump's election would have on LMT and BA and RTN. LOL. 

Edited December 3, 2020 by Anastasis

[staboner 4975]

damn brisket with the double triple reverse both sider 

ya'll homies do your twizzles now

[6th Street 6412]

Yet we sit by and call Iran the boogeyman

[formermav43 4606]

1 minute ago, 6th Street said:

Yet we sit by and call Iran the boogeyman

The boogeyman: a mythical creature used by adults to frighten children into good behavior.

Appropriately ironic.

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

7 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Overthrowing democratic outcomes is not in America's interests.

What democratic outcomes are being overthrown in Yemen? There has never been a democracy there. Do you know anything other than "wAr bAd"!

7 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Propping up barbarism is not in America's interests.

What about when both sides are barbaric? You act like the Houthis are blameless in that shitshow.

8 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Dumping arms into a fire keg is not in our interests.

And the arms the Chinese, Iranians, and Russians are dumping in Yemen? Should we let them threaten the free world's gas station because it offends people's sensibilities?

8 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Pointing the finger at Iran and China and Russia and blabbering about making the world burn while having absolutely zero self awareness is not in our interest.

 

Explain specifically how that is true.

8 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

But tell us more about the worldview of children

I don't need to when you keep spamming war porn because it makes you feel righteous.

 

 

Again, y'all won't have to be in your feels for much longer as there will be an American pullback from most everywhere but the Pacific. But we shouldn't be involved there either, right?

[Continental Op 3934]

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Imagine if they only had to deal with the hardships of school during a pandemic over a chrome book.

 

 

 

 

The guy who kills dogs isn't going to care about brown children on the other side of the world.

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

Oh look, another! Use your words dipshit.

[Anastasis 23474]

1 minute ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

What democratic outcomes are being overthrown in Yemen?

LOL at the circumscribing. 

Something a child would do. 

[Anastasis 23474]

5 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

What about when both sides are barbaric?

Hey, let's sell these guys cluster munitions.

[Anastasis 23474]

apologies in advance to the tapa folks where the spoiler tags dont work.  hope you are good with what your tax dollars subsidize.  

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

4 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Hey, let's sell these guys cluster munitions.

 

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You're right, we should let these guys threaten our allies and the the rest of the worlds petroleum supply. Children are swayed by images instead of logic.

[Anastasis 23474]

Just now, MagicSoccerSpray said:

You're right, we should let these guys threaten our allies and the the rest of the worlds petroleum supply.

It is clear where your priorities are. 

[Anastasis 23474]

And you should put allies in quotes. "Allies". 

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

13 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

And you should put allies in quotes. "Allies". 

 

You know they just aren't threatening the Saudis, right? The Iraqis, Israelis, Jordanians, Lebanese just for starters. They have set off bombs and killed innocents in India, Bulgaria, Argentina, Thailand, and on and on. They've killed Americans in Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria (just for starters). Wake up. There is no place in this world for those who turn the other cheek to evil like them.

Edited December 3, 2020 by MagicSoccerSpray

[RomaVicta 29909]

2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

My logic is pretty clear. Maybe let's not facilitate war and death and famine across the globe. Real rocket science shit, I know. 

You're missing the important part of this. It's all about scoring partisan points. Dead kids are way second to that. Starving kids? Who really cares? 

I'll borrow from Brisket: Cruelty is our brand.

[washparkhorn 9939]

5 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

Wake up. There is no place in this world for those who turn the other cheek to evil like them.

 

[RomaVicta 29909]

2 hours ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

 

Obama's. Which administration has done it's best to not expand America's military footprint across globe. *Not that I agree with that* (for the children who can't grasp it)

 

Is the picture of American munitions supposed to dissuade me? Do you realize the Houthis have withheld food aid to their own people and have extorted aid groups to make sure they control it's distribution? Not that that would matter to someone of your logic.

Negged twice for presuming to have a more realistic world view than those whom you address. Also for poorly veiling a partisan agenda. 

Maybe Obama failed. A lot of people have sucked up to Saudi. Fuck the Saudis. They flew the planes into the Pentagon and the World Trade Towers. They bought our current administration and bragged about it.

Again, fuck them. And fuck your self-congratulatory tone as you explain the world to all of us softies.

[washparkhorn 9939]

I hate the neocons arising from the dead.

Satan's little helpers. Making the world safe for commerce.

Edited December 3, 2020 by washparkhorn

[MagicSoccerSpray 1732]

7 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Negged twice for presuming to have a more realistic world view than those whom you address. Also for poorly veiling a partisan agenda. 

I don't need to presume, this entire thread and forum, prove it over and over. And just because you can't see it, or agree with it, does not automatically mean it's partisan. You people are defending the worst producer of state sponsored terrorism in the past half century.

7 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Maybe Obama failed. A lot of people have sucked up to Saudi. Fuck the Saudis. They flew the planes into the Pentagon and the World Trade Towers. They bought our current administration and bragged about it.

He did fail, his foreign policy made Jimmy Carter look like Genghis Khan. And fuck the Saudis. The fact you think I'm stanning for them only makes my point that you can't see the forest from the trees.

8 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Again, fuck them. And fuck your self-congratulatory tone as you explain the world to all of us softies.

If you think we should let the Iranians tear up the Middle East and threaten the free worlds energy supply, then you are soft. I'm just happy we won't be there in person much longer.

[Anastasis 23474]

3 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

You people are defending the worst producer of state sponsored terrorism in the past half century.

Ohhh. This is a tough one. 

[Bama Chick 28596]

If you think we should let the Iranians tear up the Middle East and threaten the free worlds energy supply, then you are soft. I'm just happy we won't be there in person much longer.

You’ve mentioned gas, petroleum, and now energy as reasons America should be involved. Yet nothing about human suffering and the loss of life.

You’re telling on yourself.