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RomaVicta

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6 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

I don't need to presume, this entire thread and forum, prove it over and over. And just because you can't see it, or agree with it, does not automatically mean it's partisan. You people are defending the worst producer of state sponsored terrorism in the past half century.

Your unfounded self-confidence makes you argument-proof. You assume certitude out of vanity. This makes you a special kind of snowflake dressed in wolf's clothing.

You've made up your mind. About 60 million other Americans have, too.  Enjoy the crowded room where you embrace the false god of your superiority. When you're brave enough to leave the pews, maybe we'll talk.

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3 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:


You’ve mentioned gas, petroleum, and now energy as reasons America should be involved. Yet nothing about human suffering and the loss of life.

You’re telling on yourself.

Those aren't the reasons I think we should be involved, those are the reasons (as well as the cold war) that we were there to start with, but not much longer. Human suffering and loss of life are facts of human existence for all of history. Do you naively think that if we quit all involvement tomorrow, that that would stop? That the Iranians would halt their terror out of gratitude? What did they do when they got what they wanted with the (failed) nuclear deal? Oh that's right, they spread even more terrorism, kidnapping, and death. Open your eyes.

Telling what? That I see the world and humanity for what it is? That I'm not swayed by war porn and crying about the injustice of it all?

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2 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

Open your eyes.

Come on Sheeple. Open your eyes.*

 

 

*Just keep them conveniently closed when there is plain common sense standing right in front of you. 

 

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8 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Your unfounded self-confidence makes you argument-proof. You assume certitude out of vanity. This makes you a special kind of snowflake dressed in wolf's clothing.

You've made up your mind. About 60 million other Americans have, too.  Enjoy the crowded room where you embrace the false god of your superiority. When you're brave enough to leave the pews, maybe we'll talk.

I am always open to logical, realistic, and cogent argument, I just not seeing any here. Instead I'm seeing people beat off to war porn, crying about it, and blaming their country for it like we started it and are wholly to blame.

You thinking I'm one of the "60 million" makes my point for me. I'm not. You don't agree and automatically make it partisan. Well, at least you're in the right place for that mentality.

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4 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Falls back on an Iranian boogeyman of our own creation.  Calls others lazy. Unsurprisingly, child like. 

Explain how the Iranians, and their actions, are "of our own creation". Specifically. If you try to croak out some excuse about "mOsAdDeGh" you only show that you don't know anything. Does his overthrow 67 years ago excuse murder, bombings, and kidnappings against civilians? It does not.

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45 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

you are soft

The United States has unrivaled hard and soft power to destroy any nation or nations on this Earth. 

We speak from positions of great privilege and largely immune to the perils of war.

Humility is the appropriate emotion when one possesses overwhelming power, as our nation does. Any other emotion gets in the way. 

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Just now, MagicSoccerSpray said:

Explain how the Iranians, and their actions, are "of our own creation".

How do the historical actions of our country influence the current state of affairs wrt Iran?

This is like trying to have a conversation about geopolitics with my kindergartner that is trying to learn sight words. 

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5 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

The United States has unrivaled hard and soft power to destroy any nation or nations on this Earth. 

We speak from positions of great privilege and largely immune to the perils of war.

Humility is the appropriate emotion when one possesses overwhelming power, as our nation does. Any other emotion gets in the way. 

Not as much as in the recent past, but I generally agree. To me however, that doesn't mean turning the other cheek and ignoring state sponsored terrorism against us, our allies, or our interests. No matter how much we pull back and/or try to be the "good guys", our enemies will not stop until made to.

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3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

How do the historical actions of our country influence the current state of affairs wrt Iran?

This is like trying to have a conversation about geopolitics with my kindergartner that is trying to learn sight words. 

 

Don't avoid it, you stated it. How we are to blame for Iran's malign actions. They've been doing this for 67 years.

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Priority No. 1  always.  

What is the threat concern you have regarding state sponsored terrorism against the homeland?  Generally? Specifically? We are zipped up pretty tight. 

We have been pretty lucky. My concern is that they keep trying to strike. Over and over they have been caught trying to orchestrate bombings, shootings, and killings on our soil. They are not shy about it and have publicly stated that that is their aim. They have sleeper cells here and have been caught multiple times trying to perform acts of terrorism. That's just in the homeland. Overseas they actually have bombed, kidnapped, and murdered American civilians, military, and government over and over. They are a real threat, the actual "A Team" of terrorism, and eventually they will succeed. They only respond to strength.

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Just now, MagicSoccerSpray said:

We have been pretty lucky. My concern is that they keep trying to strike. Over and over they have been caught trying to orchestrate bombings, shootings, and killings on our soil. They are not shy about it and have publicly stated that that is their aim. They have sleeper cells here and have been caught multiple times trying to perform acts of terrorism. That's just in the homeland. Overseas they actually have bombed, kidnapped, and murdered American civilians, military, and government over and over. They are a real threat, the actual "A Team" of terrorism, and eventually they will succeed. They only respond to strength.

So they can close out your file, you have no concerns of any imminent threat of state sponsored terrorism attack against the homeland - Correct or incorrect? 

 

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Just now, MagicSoccerSpray said:

Use your words.

I don't have a problem using my words. You seem to have a problem comprehending them.

Let's work on page 5 shall we. 

"There"

"Each of us"

"how do they"

"then she will"

If you have problems with any of them, just go slow and try to sound them out. Keep trying. 

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2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

I don't have a problem using my words. You seem to have a problem comprehending them.

Let's work on page 5 shall we. 

"There"

"Each of us"

"how do they"

"then she will"

If you have problems with any of them, just go slow and try to sound them out. Keep trying. 

There is no pg 5. You are just babbling meaninglessly now.

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45 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

I am always open to logical, realistic, and cogent argument, I just not seeing any here. Instead I'm seeing people beat off to war porn, crying about it, and blaming their country for it like we started it and are wholly to blame.

You thinking I'm one of the "60 million" makes my point for me. I'm not. You don't agree and automatically make it partisan. Well, at least you're in the right place for that mentality.

You felt compelled to bring up Obama like that was a salient point. It wasn't in this context. I think the shoe fits. Wear it with pride.

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You felt compelled to bring up Obama like that was a salient point. It wasn't in this context. I think the shoe fits. Wear it with pride.

I didn't bring him up for the hell of it, I brought it up because it was germane to the topic. You automatically thinking it was because of partisan politics says more about how you approach these subjects than it does about me being allegedly partisan.

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1 minute ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

Meaningless babble. I ask you a simple question that you could have answered in two sentences and you reply with multiple posts of this bullshit.

  

3 hours ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

You have the logic of a child.

I am trying to work with your projection MSS. 

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1 minute ago, washparkhorn said:

Words have meaning in post 9/11 America and the surveillance state. Thank a neocon for that too. 

Wow. What the fuck are you talking about?

 

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I am trying to work with your projection MSS. 

By making my point for me?

 

I'd say it's been fun, it really been more sad. Y'all have good dreams sleeping in your fantasy land.

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4 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Falls back on an Iranian boogeyman of our own creation.  Calls others lazy. Unsurprisingly, child like. 

No we didn't create that boogeyman (yes, we did support a regime that fostered the growth of radical Islamic factions in post WWII).  The boogeyman was already being created in WWII, and accelerated in post WWII when we supported Israels creation.  Read "The Looming Tower" where that concept is put forward.

Iran was just the first place the breach in the wall occurred that could be exploited by radical Islamic Jihads attack on the west.  

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6 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Ohhh. This is a tough one. 

Dude just let it go. He knows how full of shit his posts are. If there was a more obvious troll job being committed on a UT-based message board, I’ve yet to see it...and actually would like to just for the theatre.

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On 6/15/2022 at 10:46 AM, maninblack said:

 

 

War Powers Resolution in Senate just got spiked by the White House. Same resolution that got passed under Trump, and had support of key Biden NS advisors at the time.  Now they have it spiked cause reasons. 

Guess it is OK to repost from page 1.

 

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On 12/21/2022 at 10:06 AM, Anastasis said:

 

War Powers Resolution in Senate just got spiked by the White House. Same resolution that got passed under Trump, and had support of key Biden NS advisors at the time.  Now they have it spiked cause reasons. 

Guess it is 

 

 

I wonder if there’s other players who have skin in the game.

Israel's Netanyahu urges US to reaffirm commitment to Saudi Arabia - Al Arabiya

 

Israeli Prime Minister-designate Benjamin Netanyahu urged key ally the United States to reaffirm its commitment to Saudi Arabia and pledged to pursue formal Israeli ties with Riyadh for a "quantum leap" in peace, Al Arabiya English said on Thursday.

The U.S.-Saudi strategic partnership has frayed Under President Joe Biden’s administration  and there has been tension between the United States and the United Arab Emirates, which forged relations with Israel.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/israels-netanyahu-urges-us-reaffirm-commitment-saudi-arabia-al-arabiya-2022-12-15/

 

But, you know, same old. Though, some movement toward peace would be nice.

 

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1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

Do the people cluster bombing Ana’s friends and family in Yemen read Ana on Surly?  I’m trying to get to the bottom of this whole ‘everybody is killing everybody’ thing.

Just close your eyes and enjoy the taste of Saudi cock in your mouth. Then you get know what it’s like to be president. 

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1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Gee I wonder. 

You seem to agree )though who teally can tell, definitely.)

Biden isn’t bending over for the Saudis, unlike tfg. Joe has extracted a pledge from Israel to make solid moves towards peace with SA. Most folks would say that’s a good thing.

Some of the other folks fly planes into buildings and hope to kill as many innocents ss possible

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1 minute ago, Willfully Horn said:

You seem to agree )though who teally can tell, definitely.)

Biden isn’t beneing over fir the Saudis, unlike tfg. Joe has extracted a pledge from Israel to make solid moves towards peace with SA. Most folks would say that’s a good thing.

Some of the other folks fly planes into buildings and hope to kill as many innocents ss possible

I thought that I was on a pretty good Christmas bender, and then I read your post and realize that I can aim higher.  

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1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Jeez buddy. Maybe try again. 

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Literally bending over:

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Christmas Eve:

 Netanyahu pushing for Saudi-Israel deal with annexation pledge - report
https://m.jpost.com/middle-east/article-725732/amp
 

Ultimately, bin Laden believed a devastating strike on American soil would convince the U.S. to withdraw from the Muslim world.

https://www.911memorial.org/lesson-plans/warning-signs-attack

 

That demon seed will rot you from the inside out. Just saying.

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