Desantis is a POS and needs his own thread

[Hookah Horns 3,083]

3 hours ago, Don Johnson said:

The Cowboys are worth $6.5 billion and you think Walt Disney World maxes out at $9.999 billion?

I was joking before about fighting about this. I have no idea and don't really care. 

But comparing the Cowboys as a franchise and the infrastructure and land of Disney World doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Of course you couldn't buy the entity and rights of DisneyWorld for less than 12 figures. 

[Satchel 6,949]

56 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Polls like the one I cited with actual text of bills and not pollsters editorializing are far more valid.  

You cited a poll conducted by a Republican pollster. 

[Gil Bang 26,020]

1 hour ago, Johnny Sack said:

I only have a very slight knowledge of eminent domain.  But I’m not thinking an amusement park gets you there.  

How about a "Border Wall" that isn't on the border?

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

37 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

How about a "Border Wall" that isn't on the border?

You may disagree with it.  But it’s border control and national security.  Pretty sure it’s a legit function of the government.  

[NWBuck 8,586]

2 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

Texas is redder than Florida.  And Austin can’t build roads.  
 

And that land is privately owned in smallish tracts. Can you imagine what it would cost to buy when you know Disney is the buyer?  They had to hide shit 55 years ago when land was cheap and it was a Florida swamp.  

[tx 3 putt 77,426]

2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Yeah. The post wasn’t made in earnest.
 

Wasn’t there some shit a couple decades ago that people were claiming Disney was buying up parcels somewhere in dfw to make a park in the middle of the country?  

texas does love big business though. It would bend over and spread’em up to and including an eminent domain fight if Disney showed interest. 

about every 4 years the hot and heavy rumor in Victoria is that Disney looking to buy up land in the area 

[WhatTheBuck 28,798]

4 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

I’m not really amazed 

 

[fattyflattie 4,638]

21 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

about every 4 years the hot and heavy rumor in Victoria is that Disney looking to buy up land in the area 

Yes. Victoria is exactly where I’d like to blow 10k on princess costumes and rides.   Were  the cotton fields of Tivoli too pricy for them? 

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

14 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Yes. Victoria is exactly where I’d like to blow 10k on princess costumes and rides.   Were  the cotton fields of Tivoli too pricy for them? 

Goliad and Berclair are too fancy.  

[pacman 7,371]

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/math-concepts-the-state-of-florida-finds-objectionable

Probably funny to only one other person but here goes 

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Calculus: We stand firmly against any field of mathematics that requires integration.

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Prime Numbers: The only prime number the State of Florida recognizes is 17—the age at which a woman is in her prime.

 

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

America’s best Governor is going to protect 5 year olds from these sick freaks.  Some of you hate him for it.  

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

 

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

 

[aggie08 21,531]

Stop being such an easy fucking mark, my man.

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

4 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Stop being such an easy fucking mark, my man.

Stop defending this crap.  

[aggie08 21,531]

I'm not defending anything. I'm saying expand your information circles beyond a batshit crazy realtor feeding you all the outrage porn you so desperately need.

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

2 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I'm not defending anything. I'm saying expand your information circles beyond a batshit crazy realtor feeding you all the outrage porn you so desperately need.

It’s someone posting libs own videos.  Pretty much a primary source.   Cockroaches do hate the light.  

Edited April 22, 2022 by Johnny Sack

[aggie08 21,531]

Aren't you the one who famously reminds us that school shootings don't happen that often, so gun regulations and active shooter drills aren't necessary? But some nutjob with an agenda digs up a few videos, and you're all over this massive, widespread problem of teachers grooming our kids!

You are a mark. A sad little man.

 

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

21 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Aren't you the one who famously reminds us that school shootings don't happen that often, so gun regulations and active shooter drills aren't necessary? But some nutjob with an agenda digs up a few videos, and you're all over this massive, widespread problem of teachers grooming our kids!

You are a mark. A sad little man.

 

I’m the one saying they’re so random that none of that bullshit will do a thing to stop them.  

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

31 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Aren't you the one who famously reminds us that school shootings don't happen that often, so gun regulations and active shooter drills aren't necessary? But some nutjob with an agenda digs up a few videos, and you're all over this massive, widespread problem of teachers grooming our kids!

You are a mark. A sad little man.

 

Do you think it should be legal for teachers to do what the teachers in these videos do?

[aggie08 21,531]

14 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

I’m the one saying they’re so random that none of that bullshit will do a thing to stop them.  

You're almost there. Put it all together now.

 

[Blotto 23,575]

1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

Stop being such an easy fucking mark, my man.

Unfortunately, he was born that way. 

Edited April 22, 2022 by Blotto

[Captainant 27,769]

11 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Do you think it should be legal for teachers to do what the teachers in these videos do?

Do you think that what you shared is representative of what all teachers are doing, and is such a serious issue that the government should write a law about it?

1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

Stop being such an easy fucking mark, my man.

Sack lives to hate. He would never second guess something that gave him an easy excuse to exercise his worst impulses. We've seen it for years from him.

But don't worry, he pays his indulgences to Haitian orphanages so he can be the biggest piece of shit and still get into heaven according to fundagellical sky daddy

[Pig Bellmont 8,738]

7 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

about every 4 years the hot and heavy rumor in Victoria is that Disney looking to buy up land in the area 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2015/09/02/plano-man-gets-stiff-sentence-in-disney-fraud-land-scheme/%3FoutputType%3Damp
 

A Plano man who swindled investors with a fake story about a Disney theme park coming to North Texas was sentenced Tuesday to 171/2 years in federal prison.

Thomas W. Lucas Jr., 35, was convicted by a jury in February of seven federal counts of wire fraud and one count of lying to the FBI.

(more at the link)

[DaysOff 7,974]

No greater hate than Christian love.

[Caponata 151]

So 90s social conservatism is officially back baby. Must be a cakewalk for Republicans; you don't actually have to do anything, allocate resources, or solve problems, just condemn CRT & create these ridiculous bills & your base is fully satiated.

[bonnieblue 542]

33 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Do you think it should be legal for teachers to do what the teachers in these videos do?

Bro, stop jacking off to tik tok videos of “libs” and go give that hot wife of yours a mustache ride. I’m sure it will be quite the novelty for her.

[Pato del Muerto 52,598]

46 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Do you think it should be legal for teachers to do what the teachers in these videos do?

These are obviously videos staged by right wing agitators and no amount of evidence to the contrary can change my mind, as those would just be wrong opinions and fake news. 
 

 

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

50 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

You're almost there. Put it all together now.

 

Shooting up a school is illegal and should be.  You’re almost there.   Put it together. 

[Pato del Muerto 52,598]

3 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Shooting up a school is illegal and should be.  You’re almost there.   Put it together. 

Do people refrain from doing it because of the law against it?  Or is it just on the books so that when someone does it they can be prosecuted?

[Don Johnson 4,755]

44 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Do you think that what you shared is representative of what all teachers are doing, and is such a serious issue that the government should write a law about it?

What laws ares created to stop something everyone is doing?  I think he answered your question from yesterday with multiple examples:

Was this even a thing that was actually happening? Was this a real problem that deserved the legislative attention and cost?

I haven't seen anything to support this narrative aside from the narrative.

 

[Captainant 27,769]

5 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

What laws ares created to stop something everyone is doing?  I think he answered your question from yesterday with multiple examples:

Was this even a thing that was actually happening? Was this a real problem that deserved the legislative attention and cost?

I haven't seen anything to support this narrative aside from the narrative.

 

1) the examples that sack posted were of teachers stating their opinion and of pretty typical kids books.

2) if it's your position that a fucking kids book is going to ruin your poor helpless crotch goblin, maybe you're a shitty parent and shouldn't rely on your kids school to raise your kid.

3) do you agree with sack that gay/trans people are "sick freaks" that should be kept away from children?

4) if you care about protecting children from abuse, and not just feeding them to youth ministers for actual grooming, you'd want them to understand and have words for what they may have to face when an adult says something is OK when it isn't.

 

[TXSooner518 2,438]

So your position is yes an elementary school teacher allegedly saying they will read a book about kids dressing how they want justifies a piss-poor drafted state law that chills legit discussion, ostracizes kids, etc.?

[Sawbonz 27,588]

1 hour ago, Johnny Sack said:

Do you think it should be legal for teachers to do what the teachers in these videos do?

We should definitely enact federal legislation to address things that affect < 1/1000 of the population. 

[Satchel 6,949]

2 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/twitter-activist-behind-far-right-libs-of-tiktok-revealed-to-be-us-orthodox-jew/
 

[Don Johnson 4,755]

2 minutes ago, Captainant said:

1) the examples that sack posted were of teachers stating their opinion and of pretty typical kids books.

2) if it's your position that a fucking kids book is going to ruin your poor helpless crotch goblin, maybe you're a shitty parent and shouldn't rely on your kids school to raise your kid.

3) do you agree with sack that gay/trans people are "sick freaks" that should be kept away from children?

4) if you care about protecting children from abuse, and not just feeding them to youth ministers for actual grooming, you'd want them to understand and have words for what they may have to face when an adult says something is OK when it isn't.

 

1) Their opinion on what they should teach children in the classroom.

2) More than a book, clearly in those videos.  And I agree that I should not - and do not - rely on my kids school to raise my kid.  I recently had the gender conversation with my 11 year old.  He was much more prepared to have it at 11 than he would have been at 6.

3) LGBTQ+?  Absolutely not.  People who are eager to talk about my K-3rd grader about these subjects?  Yeah, I think that's weird.  Some of those people above seemed excited about the prospects of discussing this with kids.  

4)  Absolutely, and unfortunately we have taught our kids what is not OK to for an adult to do around them.  But sure as fuck not the job of my kids kindergarten teacher.  That would be weird.

[Sawbonz 27,588]

26 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Shooting up a school is illegal and should be.  You’re almost there.   Put it together. 

Aren’t you the one that says that schools are safer than they’ve been in 40 years in terms of shootings? DeSantis is only doing this to rile up the rubes and get out their votes. You think he’s the greatest governor ever because of bullshit like this that puts already at risk youth at further risk of violence and suicide. You also think he is great because he is willing to draw districts that give Republicans a 20 to 8 House seat advantage in a state that is 51% Republican. You don’t care about any of this because it keeps Republicans in power which will keep your taxes low

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

6 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Aren’t you the one that says that schools are safer than they’ve been in 40 years in terms of shootings? DeSantis is only doing this to rile up the rubes and get out their votes. You think he’s the greatest governor ever because of bullshit like this that puts already at risk youth at further risk of violence and suicide. You also think he is great because he is willing to draw districts that give Republicans a 20 to 8 House seat advantage in a state that is 51% Republican. You don’t care about any of this because it keeps Republicans in power which will keep your taxes low

I think he's done a fantastic job as governor of Florida and so do his constituents.

Plus Floridians avoided this guy:

[Captainant 27,769]

Its amazing to me what victim-claiming conservative trolls can get away with as "discourse". Clearly, sack is here to submit his thoughts to the marketplace of ideas and not just trigger libz

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

5 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

I think he's done a fantastic job as governor of Florida and so do his constituents.

Plus Floridians avoided this guy:

I mean can you imagine the consequences if that guy had won? Florida locking down more for Covid. Probably other states open less. Less resulting migration across the country because the policies would be more homogenous. 
 

18 minutes ago, Satchel said:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/twitter-activist-behind-far-right-libs-of-tiktok-revealed-to-be-us-orthodox-jew/
 

What does this lady’s faith have to do with anything? The original Taylor Lorenz piece doxxed her religion as well. 

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

All that twitter account does is republish liberals' own public videos.  Who cares who runs the account? 

Again, cockroaches hate the light.

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

2 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

 

They hate this account because it makes it seem like the non existent might just exist. 
 

As a side note, I heard second hand that in Alamo Heights there’s a big hubbub started up over a 4th grader there. Boy allowed to use girl bathroom and the resulting backlash and then legal threats etc. 

[RomaVicta 30,018]

2 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

It’s someone posting libs own videos.  Pretty much a primary source.   Cockroaches do hate the light.  

 

13 minutes ago, Satchel said:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/twitter-activist-behind-far-right-libs-of-tiktok-revealed-to-be-us-orthodox-jew/
 

 

And here from the original Washington Post:

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Under her first handle @shaya69830552, she minimized covid, cast doubt on the election results and promoted a dubious story about a child sex trafficking ring. On Nov. 23, 2020, Raichik changed handles, this time going by @shaya_ray and identifying herself publicly as a real estate investor in Brooklyn. She began doubling down on election fraud conspiracies using QAnon-related language. Early that December, she joked about launching a clothing line titled “voter fraud is real.”

 

Quote

In January 2021, Raichik started talking about traveling to D.C. to support Trump on Jan. 6 at the Stop the Steal rally. When violence broke out at the Capitol that day, she tweeted a play-by-play account claiming to be on the ground. “They were rubber bullets from law enforcement. 1 hit right next to me,” she said. She posted videos from the crowd and spoke of tear gas being deployed nearby. After saying she left the riot, she used Twitter to downplay the event, claiming that it was peaceful compared to a “BLM protest.”

Frankly the "Lib" in "LIb Tik Tok" should have clued you in. Soon you will quote from the website of somebody calling themselves The Democrat Party and saying it's straight from the Democrats.

As for who is being protected from who:

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“Libs of TikTok is basically acting as a wire service for the broader right-wing media ecosystem,” said Ari Drennen, LGBTQ program director for Media Matters, the progressive media watchdog group. “It’s been shaping public policy in a real way, and affecting teachers’ ability to feel safe in their classrooms.”

As I wrote in another thread, your "political party" is a lynch mob. Kyle out there killing pieces of shit, harmless LGBTQs being portrayed as predators, and Dems as pedophiles. Can't wait until Kyle goes into an elementary school seeking to help the young as he opens up on an effeminate instructor beloved by their students.

I realize that for persons of your ilk, the question is as sadly rhetorical now as it was then. 

[Captainant 27,769]

1 minute ago, RomaVicta said:

 

 

And here from the original Washington Post:

 

Frankly the "Lib" in "LIb Tik Tok" should have clued you in. Soon you will quote from the website of somebody calling themselves The Democrat Party and saying it's straight from the Democrats.

As for who is being protected from who:

As I wrote in another thread, your "political party" is a lynch mob. Kyle out there killing pieces of shit, harmless LGBTQs being portrayed as predators, and Dems as pedophiles. Can't wait until Kyle goes into an elementary school seeking to help the young as he opens up on an effeminate instructor beloved by their students.

I realize that for persons of your ilk, the question is as sadly rhetorical now as it was then. 

And yet @immamac and @hayden_horn (and definitely not black lab lol) won't action the posting and repetition of disinformation sources like the one that sack is using as an authoritative source to derail threads and grievance-jerk. As long as there's enough layers of plausible deniability, any fucking grifter can be authoritative - but don't forget, any competent professional or expert is just a deeply biased and unreliable source!

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

1 minute ago, Captainant said:

And yet @immamac and @hayden_horn (and definitely not black lab lol) won't action the posting and repetition of disinformation sources like the one that sack is using as an authoritative source to derail threads and grievance-jerk. As long as there's enough layers of plausible deniability, any fucking grifter can be authoritative - but don't forget, any competent professional or expert is just a deeply biased and unreliable source!

 

How is Libs of TiKTok disinformation?

[Pig Bellmont 8,738]

Thanks to your governor who got Big Mad, property taxes are going up 25%. lol

[Captainant 27,769]

Just now, Immaculate Vibes said:

How is Libs of TiKTok disinformation?

Posted up thread, journalism by WaPo on the account owner

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/04/19/libs-of-tiktok-right-wing-media/

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On March 8, a Twitter account called Libs of TikTok posted a video of a woman teaching sex education to children in Kentucky, calling the woman in the video a “predator.” The next evening, the same clip was featured on Laura Ingraham’s Fox News program, prompting the host to ask, “When did our public schools, any schools, become what are essentially grooming centers for gender identity radicals?”

Libs of TikTok reposts a steady stream of TikTok videos and social media posts, primarily from LGBTQ+ people, often including incendiary framing designed to generate outrage. Videos shared from the account quickly find their way to the most influential names in right-wing media. The account has emerged as a powerful force on the Internet, shaping right-wing media, impacting anti-LGBTQ+ legislation and influencing millions by posting viral videos aimed at inciting outrage among the right.

The anonymous account’s impact is deep and far-reaching. Its content is amplified by high-profile media figures, politicians and right-wing influencers. Its tweets reach millions, with influence spreading far beyond its more than 648,000 Twitter followers. Libs of TikTok has become an agenda-setter in right-wing online discourse, and the content it surfaces shows a direct correlation with the recent push in legislation and rhetoric directly targeting the LGBTQ+ community.

Specific excerpt as to why I would argue the account is disinformation, based on the past behavior and information presented as fact by the account:

Chaya Raichik had been working as a real estate salesperson in Brooklyn when, in early November 2020, she created the account that would eventually become Libs of TikTok.

Under her first handle @shaya69830552, she minimized covid, cast doubt on the election results and promoted a dubious story about a child sex trafficking ring. On Nov. 23, 2020, Raichik changed handles, this time going by @shaya_ray and identifying herself publicly as a real estate investor in Brooklyn. She began doubling down on election fraud conspiracies using QAnon-related language. Early that December, she joked about launching a clothing line titled “voter fraud is real.”

In January 2021, Raichik started talking about traveling to D.C. to support Trump on Jan. 6 at the Stop the Steal rally. When violence broke out at the Capitol that day, she tweeted a play-by-play account claiming to be on the ground. “They were rubber bullets from law enforcement. 1 hit right next to me,” she said. She posted videos from the crowd and spoke of tear gas being deployed nearby. After saying she left the riot, she used Twitter to downplay the event, claiming that it was peaceful compared to a “BLM protest.”

[RomaVicta 30,018]

13 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

They hate this account because it makes it seem like the non existent might just exist. 
 

As a side note, I heard second hand that in Alamo Heights there’s a big hubbub started up over a 4th grader there. Boy allowed to use girl bathroom and the resulting backlash and then legal threats etc. 

How happy for you to have a new anecdote to apply universally to a group you like to persecute. (Oh no, only the bad ones! Not like Tonto who was a good Indian!)

I will now specuate without the backing of tik tok curated to suit my constant state of outrage; I bet the most common instructions for young children about the variety of sexual orientations has to do with tolerance.

So, let's see, which side of this battle would I choose to be on, virulent intolerance or tolerance? My choice is as easy as Sack's and Immaculate Vibes of Rush's/Trump's right always is. Tolerance is the least we should expect and give as fellow citizens. It keeps demagogues and would-be tyrants from dividing us.

You irony-deaf fuckwads thinking you're actually saving the republic.

Just as a cancer liberates the soul of a body.

[TXSooner518 2,438]

So the right wing thinks that K-3 is just too young to be indoctrinated into the idea that gay people exist and being exposed to those ideas "grooms" kids to be gay. Why no focus on indoctrination into something that is actually, ya know, a fucking decision instead of the way you were born?  Shouldn't there be a "don't say God" bill?  After all, why should kids moldable minds be exposed to these concepts?  No more Christmas parties or Easter events, no books allowed that say God or Jesus or feature pastors or priests (speaking of grooming). Why is it OK to plant seeds in a kindergartener's head about religion, which is a choice, and not sexuality, which is not?

Currently in Florida, a kindergarten teacher can legally describe explicitly the murders of the Holocaust and state that the actions were justified because Jews are less than human, but not "Sally has two moms because sometimes girls like other girls." Why exactly are there all these bills to stop discussion of CRT and gender, but none aimed at stopping endorsements of white supremacy, Nazism, or advocacy of the Big Lie that the election was stolen?

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

So her other handles have disinformation.

Libs of TikTok is just posting Libs' own public TikToks.  How is that -- not her other accounts -- disinformation?

(Narrator -- it isn't)