Desantis is a POS and needs his own thread

[Poe It Up 126]

16 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

If your kid has class with any kids with older siblings it’s going to be first grade at the latest. God forbid they ride the bus to and from school

I don’t hold children to the same standard as an adult. I wouldn’t expect them to know any better. We’re fighting an uphill battle on information, I’d prefer to view the teacher as an ally. 

[Serak The Preparer 3431]

16 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Yeah, like the girl's livelihood. If you think abuse is happening call cps. Stop grooming someone behind the parents backs, and hiding attempts at suicide. Oh, that seems to address your hypothetical. Just tell parents things, stop hiding shit from them and bills like this won't need to be made.

prohibits school district personnel from discouraging or prohibiting parental notification & involvement in critical decisions affecting student's mental, emotional, or physical well-being; prohibits classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity in certain grade levels;

These teachers aren't grooming you sick fuck. Just go back to watching Tim Poole videos and pretending you know things. 

[Sawbonz 27578]

1 minute ago, Poe It Up said:

I don’t hold children to the same standard as an adult. I wouldn’t expect them to know any better. We’re fighting an uphill battle on information, I’d prefer to view the teacher as an ally. 

My point is you better be ready to have these conversations a lot sooner than what you think is “age-appropriate”

[Pig Bellmont 8719]

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

Hard to see how not given the decision in citizens United

Yeah that toothpaste is out of the tube and has been for a while 

[Brisketexan 105156]

Yeah, like the girl's livelihood. If you think abuse is happening call cps. Stop grooming someone behind the parents backs, and hiding attempts at suicide. Oh, that seems to address your hypothetical. Just tell parents things, stop hiding shit from them and bills like this won't need to be made.
prohibits school district personnel from discouraging or prohibiting parental notification & involvement in critical decisions affecting student's mental, emotional, or physical well-being; prohibits classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity in certain grade levels;

I will just ask you to do one thing: define “grooming” in the context in which you just used it.

[wildcat09 29355]

Anyone who accuses liberals of grooming simply for not denying the existence of gay people to children deserves to get their shit wrecked.

[pyrohornIII 4815]

7 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Ignorance -> Fear -> Intolerance-> Hate -> Desantis/Abbott type politicians -> Neutering education -> Ignorance -> Rinse and repeat.

Don't ever doubt that this isn't about taking control of our schools and indoctrination.  The DeVos types making money off of private schools that teach people to vote against their best interests, repeatedly.

7 hours ago, Captainant said:

Fatty and other people like him and johnny actually just ran Troph off the board a month or two ago with their transphobia and support for hate and othering. I dont think his views have shifted one iota, he just is finally getting outside of his WASPy suburban bubble.

Homeboy still is out here saying that he would still love his daughters "even if they chose to be lesbians". 

Dumb question amnesty here, please.  But some people are naturally Bi-sexual or pansexual right?  So they can choose to engage in relationships with members of differing genders.  So for some is it a choice?    I'm old, all this gender talk is confusing, but I am trying.  

1 hour ago, Poe It Up said:

I don’t hold children to the same standard as an adult. I wouldn’t expect them to know any better. We’re fighting an uphill battle on information, I’d prefer to view the teacher as an ally. 

They might know better if we actually taught them something about sex and relationships, instead of leaving it up to religious leaders who make a good deal of their income off of counseling people over guilt.  And guilt over sex and gender is the easiest sell. 

Who knows?  Those educated kids might grow up to be better parents and eventually all this recedes.  Imagine that, teaching people more about themselves, their interrelations with others, acceptance and parenting...instead of how to be a good cog in the capitalistic machine?  

[safe sex 11735]

21 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

Dumb question amnesty here, please.  But some people are naturally Bi-sexual or pansexual right?  So they can choose to engage in relationships with members of differing genders.  So for some is it a choice?    I'm old, all this gender talk is confusing, but I am trying 

  

You choose to date someone. You don't choose which genders you are sexually/romantically attracted to.

 

A bisexual woman who dated a man is not choosing to be straight. She's just in a hetero-presenting relationship.

Edited April 24, 2022 by trauma babe

[Sawbonz 27578]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

I will just ask you to do one thing: define “grooming” in the context in which you just used it.

[Sawbonz 27578]

2 hours ago, workswithseed said:

Hey, fuckhead. Stop hiding shit from parents. Do you know who you call if you think there is abuse? CPS. 

Why would you necessarily suspect abuse in the situation, at least physical abuse? And even if you did, what are you going to tell CPS in the situation? Hey this child thinks they may be trans. I’m about to tell the parents so please come make sure they don’t beat the shit out of them?

[TexasHooch 5122]

Quote

She's just in a hetero-presenting relationship.

OK.  Look. I'm pretty sure I'm in the exact same camp as you on this issue, so is it alright that that phrase made me wince?  I mean that was literally my visceral reaction to it.

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by TexasHooch

[Johnny Sack 8397]

7 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Troph had been posting here a hell of a lot longer than fatty.  I sent a note to @immamac and @hayden_horn.  Bigotry and hate should not be tolerated.  

 Troph left over the Lia Thomas thread.  Because we didn’t think a man should swim against women.  If I get banned for that opinion so fucking be it. 

Edited April 24, 2022 by Johnny Sack

[Longhorn_Fan68 33874]

6 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

 Troph left over the Lia Thomas thread.  Because we didn’t think a man should swim against women.  If I get banned for that opinion so fucking be it.  

[atomheartbevo 89732]

3 hours ago, Poe It Up said:

This seems sensible, I mean it’s a matter of when not if these conversations happen. Some of us just want these conversations to be had with the parent and at the right age, which I don’t think is hateful or unreasonable. 

The problem is you don't get to pick the age, not if your kids are around other kids or have any kind of internet access (even if it's "filtered").

There's always at least one or two asshole parents who let their kids watch all kinds of movies/TV shows and those kids will gleefully inform other kids of their newfound knowledge, or there maybe a time where you shove a tablet or phone in their face while you nap for a bit or whatever.  Unless you keep it locked down to just one app, they might ask Siri or Alexa something, or they are playing Pokemon Go on your phone and click on events, which launches Safari, and then they realize they can find all kinds of stuff or whatever, and then *boom* you are having that conversation right then and there.

Edited April 24, 2022 by atomheartbevo

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

33 minutes ago, trauma babe said:

You choose to date someone. You don't choose which genders you are sexually/romantically attracted to.

 

A bisexual woman who dated a man is not choosing to be straight. She's just in a hetero-presenting relationship.

 

Assuming these numbers are reasonably close to true for the whole population what do you make of them?

 

Why such a rapid change recently? Has there always been that large of a percentage of the population suppressing their natural desires? That’s a higher percentage than I would’ve ever thought. We’ve just become so free now that everyone can be themselves I guess. 

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

26 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

 Troph left over the Lia Thomas thread.  Because we didn’t think a man should swim against women.  If I get banned for that opinion so fucking be it. 

 

[TexasHooch 5122]

3 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

 

Assuming these numbers are reasonably close to true for the whole population what do you make of them?

 

Why such a rapid change recently? Has there always been that large of a percentage of the population suppressing their natural desires? That’s a higher percentage than I would’ve ever thought. We’ve just become so free now that everyone can be themselves I guess. 

Sample size is 12,000.  Aside from that, my guess is that it's the Q in LGBTQ.  It's a pretty broad category.

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

1 minute ago, TexasHooch said:

Sample size is 12,000.  Aside from that, my guess is that it's the Q in LGBTQ.  It's a pretty broad category.

It was the bisexual category. 57% of lgbt community identify as B

[TexasHooch 5122]

Yeah.  Was just about to edit after, you know, actually reading the article.  It's interesting.  

 

[workswithseed 2112]

3 hours ago, TXSooner518 said:

Is "my parents hate gay people" abuse that CPS will do anything about?  Of course not. If we can agree that CPS can take kids away from hateful bigots, then LFG. 

THERE IS NO FUCKING GROOMING STOP SAYING GROOMING. You are just like the ignorant fucks that call everything SOCIALISM or COMMUNISM when you mean "things I don't like." 

And "just tell parents things" again you have given no exhaustive list of the "things" that parents should be told. Also,this bill has nothing to do with not telling parents things, and has to do with what is said in class. So, nope, "tell parents!" doesn't mandate this shithead bill from shitheads by shitheads for shitheads. 

Shows an example of grooming. "There isn't grooming."

Stop hiding things from parents and this won't be discussed, you'll have no need for this bill. Stop giving ammo.

[Brisketexan 105156]

Shows an example of grooming. "There isn't grooming."
Stop hiding things from parents and this won't be discussed, you'll have no need for this bill. Stop giving ammo.

Again….please offer an actual definition of grooming, as you are using the term. If you cannot, you should probably STFU.

[workswithseed 2112]

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

I will just ask you to do one thing: define “grooming” in the context in which you just used it.

Grooming: to make someone in your image and alienate friends and family. 

This would be my definition. 

56 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Why would you necessarily suspect abuse in the situation, at least physical abuse? And even if you did, what are you going to tell CPS in the situation? Hey this child thinks they may be trans. I’m about to tell the parents so please come make sure they don’t beat the shit out of them?

Hey, y'all keep saying abuse is happening, that's why we must hide it from parents. 

[pyrohornIII 4815]

23 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

The problem is you don't get to pick the age, not if your kids are around other kids or have any kind of internet access (even if it's "filtered").

There's always at least one or two asshole parents who let their kids watch all kinds of movies/TV shows and those kids will gleefully inform other kids of their newfound knowledge, or there maybe a time where you shove a tablet or phone in their face while you nap for a bit or whatever.  Unless you keep it locked down to just one app, they might ask Siri or Alexa something, or they are playing Pokemon Go on your phone and click on events, which launches Safari, and then they realize they can find all kinds of stuff or whatever, and then *boom* you are having that conversation right then and there.

Add to that that kids come into their sexuality at different ages.  I know I was pretty curious well before most of the kids in my class.  I mean I got smacks for looking sticking my head under the dress of my kindergarten teacher because the opportunity arose.   But then I was weird, since I never really was part of that 'he man woman hater" club that was made popular by the Lil' Rascals and REO Speedwagon.

20 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

 

Assuming these numbers are reasonably close to true for the whole population what do you make of them?

 

Why such a rapid change recently? Has there always been that large of a percentage of the population suppressing their natural desires? That’s a higher percentage than I would’ve ever thought. We’ve just become so free now that everyone can be themselves I guess. 

So really, what is the problem with this?  That the world won't repopulate if everyone goes same sex?  Or is it an issue that someone's lineage might dry up if their kids don't procreate and pass on the family name?   Helluva a thing to worry about while we slowly make our planet more and more inhospitable.    

[Bozo_Casanova 26488]

 

[Pancho 44858]

7 hours ago, workswithseed said:

So, does the state get to keep a secret life from the parent, if you think so, then your grooming them. Yes, that should be illegal and not tolerated. You don't get to decide for parents what can be taught, and what can be kept you've made parents a voting block, and that's about two voting age adults. Don't hide shit from parents.

 

 

This is one of the dumbest posts I’ve read on surly and shaggy combined. (And hornfans)

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

2 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

 

So really, what is the problem with this?  That the world won't repopulate if everyone goes same sex?  Or is it an issue that someone's lineage might dry up if their kids don't procreate and pass on the family name?   Helluva a thing to worry about while we slowly make our planet more and more inhospitable.    

I hadn’t thought of the population control angle, but that would be effective long term if that were a concern to some. 
 

I don’t think anything is wrong with it necessarily, I was just curious TBabe’s thoughts on the rapid rise given her view that none of these decisions are a conscious choice. 

[Cousin Strawberry 1261]

14 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Grooming: to make someone in your image and alienate friends and family.

I have no dog in this fight but this is the dumbest definition of “grooming” I have ever read.  There has to be and endgame. “Grooming” is when a person  attempts to gain the trust of a child,  to manipulate them and isolate them from their family, to normalize deviant sexual behavior for the express purpose of sexually assaulting them. That’s it. 

[TXSooner518 2438]

Hey, y'all keep saying abuse is happening, that's why we must hide it from parents. 

So the problems I see - that’s not grooming and also that definition doesn’t apply to the situations described. Other than that, you nailed it!!!!

If someone tells me something in confidence I’m not pushing alienation by not sharing that. Also nothing in this thread has anything to do with “making someone in their own image”.

But under your definition, a parent who takes a kid to the parent’s church and says they can’t hang out with certain friends (like *gasp*) gay ones would be guilty of grooming.

Again, maybe less talky more learny for a while??

[pyrohornIII 4815]

22 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Grooming: to make someone in your image and alienate friends and family. 

This would be my definition. 

Hey, y'all keep saying abuse is happening, that's why we must hide it from parents. 

A) Then grooming applies to Amway and cults like Q.  I've lost great friends because I chose not to sell Amway under them.  And we all know what  Q is like.  

B) There is as much if not more abuse being foisted on these kids by parents who are too scared of what their own peers think to stand up for their kids until it's too late.  Go watch Joe Bell.

 

[Pato del Muerto 52525]

6 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

I hadn’t thought of the population control angle, but that would be effective long term if that were a concern to some. 
 

I don’t think anything is wrong with it necessarily, I was just curious TBabe’s thoughts on the rapid rise given her view that none of these decisions are a conscious choice. 

My first thought (as a cis Hetero white dude) is that the survey is probably flawed, to be that far afield from previously accepted/tabulated numbers.     One or more biases at play. 

[Pancho 44858]

40 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

 

Assuming these numbers are reasonably close to true for the whole population what do you make of them?

 

Why such a rapid change recently? Has there always been that large of a percentage of the population suppressing their natural desires? That’s a higher percentage than I would’ve ever thought. We’ve just become so free now that everyone can be themselves I guess. 

Well, because of people like yourself and other radical (racist and bigoted) Republicans. 

 

I know at least 3 people in my life who are gay but won’t come out.  2 of them are married with kids (one is a great HS baseball player).  All 3 of them are consistent R voters, although I think one of them talks up R but secretly votes D.

There’s no “rapid change” rather there’s a progression in society to where people realize being part of the LGBTQ+ sphere is not morally wrong, no matter how much their family says it is.  Do you think it’s easier to come out today in the year 2022 or in the 1950s?  1930s? 1880s?  It’s not that fucking hard to comprehend. 

Do you know how many “straight bros” in college all over the country are really gay and they finally get to “be themselves” in college thanks to apps like Grindr? They won’t ever come out, but they know who they are.  There are articles written on this too.  One of my professors in grad school wrote an article about dudes who go to porn shops to have sex with other guys but nearly 90% of those he interviewed (he interviewed well over 100 dudes) said they weren’t gay and they were straight.  He said “but didn’t you just come from having sex with another guy?” And even anonymously to a stranger they couldn’t admit to themselves they were gay, or at least bi. 

It’s not that people have become so free now rather it’s we now live in a society were there’s no judgment and its not taboo—until around the year 2016 and we see the only group of people who are trying to take America back to the 1960s and it ain’t Dems…

 

[tx 3 putt 77071]

This thread …..

[pyrohornIII 4815]

At least in Texas one of the biggest stumbling blocks for the  Dems to carry this banner better is the Catholic church.  Between gender and abortion issues, its a hard needle to thread.   

[bonnieblue 542]

8 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Well, because of people like yourself and other radical (racist and bigoted) Republicans. 

 

I know at least 3 people in my life who are gay but won’t come out.  2 of them are married with kids (one is a great HS baseball player).  All 3 of them are consistent R voters, although I think one of them talks up R but secretly votes D.

There’s no “rapid change” rather there’s a progression in society to where people realize being part of the LGBTQ+ sphere is not morally wrong, no matter how much their family says it is.  Do you think it’s easier to come out today in the year 2022 or in the 1950s?  1930s? 1880s?  It’s not that fucking hard to comprehend. 

Do you know how many “straight bros” in college all over the country are really gay and they finally get to “be themselves” in college thanks to apps like Grindr? They won’t ever come out, but they know who they are.  There are articles written on this too.  One of my professors in grad school wrote an article about dudes who go to porn shops to have sex with other guys but nearly 90% of those he interviewed (he interviewed well over 100 dudes) said they weren’t gay and they were straight.  He said “but didn’t you just come from having sex with another guy?” And even anonymously to a stranger they couldn’t admit to themselves they were gay, or at least bi. 

It’s not that people have become so free now rather it’s we now live in a society were there’s no judgment and its not taboo—until around the year 2016 and we see the only group of people who are trying to take America back to the 1960s and it ain’t Dems…

 

This. Although I ended up with someone of the opposite sex and mostly always dated that way, I’m under the “B” part of the umbrella. I didn’t realize it for a very long time, so I would frequently find myself with a “frenemy” with which I would have intense psycho-sexual energy (along with perhaps some inspiration for an early 90s erotic thriller starring Sharon Stone). Being repressed about that wasn’t fun for anyone involved, and I’m glad that I finally came to realize that these frenemies were crushes. I massively chilled out afterward and have since lead a boring, mostly heterosexual lifestyle. If I hadn’t have come to terms with that, I’d probably be a realtor who spends my extra time harassing the local school board and setting up flamingos in my yard in Steiner Ranch.

[Satchel 6938]

The only real attempt at grooming was made by Madison Cawthorn, who exhorted mothers to groom their young sons to be monsters

[tx 3 putt 77071]

12 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

At least in Texas one of the biggest stumbling blocks for the  Dems to carry this banner better is the Catholic church.  Between gender and abortion issues, its a hard needle to thread.   

if they can ever get out the younger female, non white vote to show up on Election Day. Game over 

Texas R’s have some very eye opening polling data. Not stuff the public sees 

Edited April 25, 2022 by tx 3 putt

[Poe It Up 126]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

The problem is you don't get to pick the age, not if your kids are around other kids or have any kind of internet access (even if it's "filtered").

There's always at least one or two asshole parents who let their kids watch all kinds of movies/TV shows and those kids will gleefully inform other kids of their newfound knowledge, or there maybe a time where you shove a tablet or phone in their face while you nap for a bit or whatever.  Unless you keep it locked down to just one app, they might ask Siri or Alexa something, or they are playing Pokemon Go on your phone and click on events, which launches Safari, and then they realize they can find all kinds of stuff or whatever, and then *boom* you are having that conversation right then and there.

Of course, but 6 certainly isn’t the right age. Also, like I mentioned previously, I’m not holding a kid to the same standard as an adult. 

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

43 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Well, because of people like yourself and other radical (racist and bigoted) Republicans. 

 

I know at least 3 people in my life who are gay but won’t come out.  2 of them are married with kids (one is a great HS baseball player).  All 3 of them are consistent R voters, although I think one of them talks up R but secretly votes D.

There’s no “rapid change” rather there’s a progression in society to where people realize being part of the LGBTQ+ sphere is not morally wrong, no matter how much their family says it is.  Do you think it’s easier to come out today in the year 2022 or in the 1950s?  1930s? 1880s?  It’s not that fucking hard to comprehend. 

Do you know how many “straight bros” in college all over the country are really gay and they finally get to “be themselves” in college thanks to apps like Grindr? They won’t ever come out, but they know who they are.  There are articles written on this too.  One of my professors in grad school wrote an article about dudes who go to porn shops to have sex with other guys but nearly 90% of those he interviewed (he interviewed well over 100 dudes) said they weren’t gay and they were straight.  He said “but didn’t you just come from having sex with another guy?” And even anonymously to a stranger they couldn’t admit to themselves they were gay, or at least bi. 

It’s not that people have become so free now rather it’s we now live in a society were there’s no judgment and its not taboo—until around the year 2016 and we see the only group of people who are trying to take America back to the 1960s and it ain’t Dems…

 

So you would estimate that 20% of adults are somewhere in the lgbt spectrum if they could really declare their true desires? I’m just surprised by that number. 
 

It’s quite a triumph that our culture is so open that some many people would openly identify as such. 

[wildcat09 29355]

1 hour ago, TXSooner518 said:

 

So the problems I see - that’s not grooming and also that definition doesn’t apply to the situations described. Other than that, you nailed it!!!!

If someone tells me something in confidence I’m not pushing alienation by not sharing that. Also nothing in this thread has anything to do with “making someone in their own image”.

But under your definition, a parent who takes a kid to the parent’s church and says they can’t hang out with certain friends (like *gasp*) gay ones would be guilty of grooming.

Again, maybe less talky more learny for a while??

 

He’s not capable of learning, at least not by reading reasoned arguments. Maybe some day he’ll call the wrong person groomer and learn the hard way.

[Sawbonz 27578]

2 hours ago, workswithseed said:

Hey, y'all keep saying abuse is happening, that's why we must hide it from parents. 

I can’t speak for anyone else, but if you can post a link to where I said this child or any other was definitely being abused to the point there would be evidence enough to warrant a call to CPS go ahead and link it. Again, there is no way for the school officials to give their side of things. The minor child cannot give their version of events. This is a very biased “media” source who only gives the parents’ side.

In general, there is definitely the potential for significant emotional trauma or even physical violence against an LGBT youth in certain home environments. If you refuse to understand that, I can’t help you

[fattyflattie 4639]

11 hours ago, Captainant said:

atty and other people like him and johnny actually just ran Troph off the board a month or two ago with their transphobia and support for hate and othering. I dont think his views have shifted one iota, he just is finally getting outside of his WASPy suburban bubble.

Homeboy still is out here saying that he would still love his daughters "even if they chose to be lesbians". 

First of all, go fuck yourself you self righteous piece of shit.  Let me ask you this, if I was the one who almost ran her off the board a month ago, would she have PM'd me about staying in touch irl if she departs?  Maybe you can have a mod verify that? While you've got her ear, ask her who PM'd her and several mods to remove a pic of her license plate she posted (shortly after that person ((who still posts here)) went after her).  If she's still giving you the time of day at that point, maybe you can ask her how many times I've reached out to her on the subject, trying to educate myself.  I've got a lot of time for @troph, I don't have a lick of piss for your ass. 

 

10 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Troph had been posting here a hell of a lot longer than fatty.  I sent a note to @immamac and @hayden_horn.  Bigotry and hate should not be tolerated.  

 I hope so. I'm certain one of them knows her irl.  Let's get this figured out, and we can see if you are just being the vapid fucking cunt you play so well on the internet. As bigotry shouldn't be, blind accusations shouldn't be either.  

Edited April 25, 2022 by fattyflattie

[WhatTheBuck 28788]

3 hours ago, TexasHooch said:

OK.  Look. I'm pretty sure I'm in the exact same camp as you on this issue, so is it alright that that phrase made me wince?  I mean that was literally my visceral reaction to it.

I got a little bit turned on. 😎

[atomheartbevo 89732]

2 hours ago, workswithseed said:

Grooming: to make someone in your image and alienate friends and family. 

This would be my definition. 

1 hour ago, pyrohornIII said:

A) Then grooming applies to Amway and cults like Q.  I've lost great friends because I chose not to sell Amway under them.  And we all know what  Q is like.  

Throw in the hero worship of Trump and the Trump faction of the GOP.

Q and the GOP are fantastic examples, because they push so much hate towards anybody who isn't in lock step with them, including family members.  I've seen it in my family.

[Brew 3049]

11 hours ago, Captainant said:

Fatty and other people like him and johnny actually just ran Troph off the board a month or two ago with their transphobia and support for hate and othering. I dont think his views have shifted one iota, he just is finally getting outside of his WASPy suburban bubble.

Homeboy still is out here saying that he would still love his daughters "even if they chose to be lesbians". 

I’ve seen a lot of interactions between fatty and troph in the threads I pay attention to, and he’s always seemed respectful. There have been few issues outside of things that I would call lack of understanding. I read through the Lia Thomas thread and the issues there were Johnny and a few others. I’m not trying to mount some defense for fatty, but there is a clear distinction between the two and you sure can’t lay troph leaving at his feet. Troph brought a lot to this community and a completely different perspective than a lot of us are in touch with, but she has threatened to leave multiple times over a select few posters and fatty wasn’t one of them. I hope she finds her way back as we have had a lot of good discussions and I’ll try and keep in touch either way.

On the “choose” to be lesbians issue, welcome to the thought process throughout a large part of the south. I think progress has been made, but I still know people that would disown their kids if they “chose” to be gay. It’s a sad state of affairs, but the Bible Belt exacerbates that mentality.

[bolverk 29687]

30 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

First of all, go fuck yourself you self righteous piece of shit.  Let me ask you this, if I was the one who almost ran her off the board a month ago, would she have PM'd me about staying in touch irl if she departs?  Maybe you can have a mod verify that? While you've got her ear, ask her who PM'd her and several mods to remove a pic of her license plate she posted (shortly after that person ((who still posts here)) went after her).  If she's still giving you the time of day at that point, maybe you can ask her how many times I've reached out to her on the subject, trying to educate myself.  I've got a lot of time for @troph, I don't have a lick of piss for your ass. 

 

 I hope so. I'm certain one of them knows her irl.  Let's get this figured out, and we can see if you are just being the vapid fucking cunt you play so well on the internet. As bigotry shouldn't be, blind accusations shouldn't be either.  

Yeah, I don't put you in the same class as Johnny. While we generally don't see eye-to-eye and you sometimes piss me off politically, you're not a dishonest bully. Sure, maybe a bit out of touch or just "don't get it" (the progressive viewpoint, I mean), you're generally not an actively hostile person.

To get some perspective on the difference, go back that thread in the "totally-not-political" Daily Texan that caused Troph to quit the board where it was like a feeding frenzy in shark-infested waters. She was trying to have a reasoned conversation in a storm of transphobic slurs where shit from Johnny and others was getting all sorts of pos-repped left and right, inspiring him to go further until Troph up and ran off.

Fuck, Johnny had the audacity in this 20-against-1 fight to complain about the "woke lynch mob" all while participating in one himself. When I read how that thread ended a little later on, it was maybe the most hateful and cringeworthy display I'd seen since when the heyday of the old Cloak Room from the old board.

 

Here are the last few where Johnny is intentionally insulting by using "he" in reference to Lia.

Note all the responses and hook 'ems.

 

The lynch mob comment & responses:

 

The coup de grace

 

 

@PenelopeWitherspoon @Captainant

Fatty wasn't part of that mess but do take note of who was egging him on.  @workswithseed @Immaculate Vibes

I still don't know how Johnny didn't get a timeout for that.

[Sawbonz 27578]

3 hours ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

 

Assuming these numbers are reasonably close to true for the whole population what do you make of them?

 

Why such a rapid change recently? Has there always been that large of a percentage of the population suppressing their natural desires? That’s a higher percentage than I would’ve ever thought. We’ve just become so free now that everyone can be themselves I guess. 

3% of the population of Vidor TX identifies as non-white. 20 years ago it was essentially zero. Why the change?

[Cousin Strawberry 1261]

3 hours ago, workswithseed said:

Grooming: to make someone in your image and alienate friends and family. 

This would be my definition.

WWS Grandad: "Man that school is grooming my kids again. Those darky sympathizing teachers and scientists are claiming that blacks and whites are actually the same species and they can successfully mate and have viable offspring!  This is abuse! I  It's grooming to teach white kids thats\ they can breed with Chinese, Indians or God forbid blacks and produce a non-mongrel child."

 

[aggie08 21505]

12 minutes ago, bolverk said:

 

 

 

 

God damn. Talk about a who's who of shit heels.

[bolverk 29687]

2 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

God damn. Talk about a who's who of shit heels.

Pretty much. If you ever wonder what happened to the old CR crowd from the other site, that's probably several of them with mostly different handles. Helluva coincidence that so few kept their old usernames during the switchover regardless.

[fattyflattie 4639]

15 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Yeah, I don't put you in the same class as Johnny. While we generally don't see eye-to-eye and you sometimes piss me off politically, you're not a dishonest bully. Sure, maybe a bit out of touch or just "don't get it" (the progressive viewpoint, I mean), you're generally not an actively hostile person.

To get some perspective on the difference, go back that thread in the "totally-not-political" Daily Texan that caused Troph to quit the board where it was like a feeding frenzy in shark-infested waters. She was trying to have a reasoned conversation in a storm of transphobic slurs where shit from Johnny and others was getting all sorts of pos-repped left and right, inspiring him to go further until Troph up and ran off.

Fuck, Johnny had the audacity in this 20-against-1 fight to complain about the "woke lynch mob" all while participating in one himself. When I read how that thread ended a little later on, it was maybe the most hateful and cringeworthy display I'd seen since when the heyday of the old Cloak Room from the old board.

 

Here are the last few where Johnny is intentionally insulting by using "he" in reference to Lia.

Note all the responses and hook 'ems.

 

The lynch mob comment & responses:

 

The coup de grace

 

 

@PenelopeWitherspoon @Captainant

Fatty wasn't part of that mess but do take note of who was egging him on.  @workswithseed @Immaculate Vibes

I still don't know how Johnny didn't get a timeout for that.

I missed that entire thread, but I’ll say this. Sack wasn’t the one mentioned to me, but he’s on that list you screenshotted.  Funny enough, troph and I very spoke of it (the whole sports debate) in PM iirc (I have 3 athlete daughters, so a different perspective than hers, with 3 sons)  I’ve never entered any of those threads as not of offend her, even accidentally. 
 

37 minutes ago, Brew said:

On the “choose” to be lesbians issue, welcome to the thought process throughout a large part of the south.

Unfortunately that’s not even how I meant it, just worded it poorly. And I’ll leave it alone, but even more confused after reading a post from one of the surly gay mafia not long ago where he mentioned he had slept with women in HS and didn’t switch until college or so iirc. There was even a term used for not having a complete one sided ledger.