Desantis is a POS and needs his own thread

[Pescado_Rojo 19,427]

2 minutes ago, yoladu said:

do you get so much wrong on purpose?

yes, he does. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

3 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

I figured conservatives would be up in arms about how much taxpayer money is being spent on transportation for these people. Texas is paying almost $2000 per bus ticket. Haven’t seen how much the private charters for the jets cost, but I imagine it is way over the list price. I guess no price or scam is too great as long as you get to own the Libs right?

SIAP but if so, worth a mention again because it's just too too good:

 

[4th&Five 41,579]

 

[RDCanecutter 26,462]

6 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

 

[Sawbonz 27,583]

1 hour ago, Poe It Up said:

This last stint in Surly jail has reformed me. I’m currently out on good behavior, so it’s going to have to be gifs until my probation is over. 

Have you ever even read a Poe story? Watching the Simpson’s Halloween special doesn’t count

[Sawbonz 27,583]

58 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

if you believe ignorance is purposeful, then most definitely.

I’m starting to believe he’s really that dumb 

[Biff Tannen 45,702]

3 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

I’m starting to believe he’s really that dumb 

Yeah, there's definitely a screw loose at the very least.  That oregon kid though?  Man, that's a special kind of dumb.

[Poe It Up 126]

2 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

I love your avatar, I own a beagle as well. 

[Celery Man 20,991]

even compared to guys like workswithseed and johnny sack incredulity is remarkably stupid

[Incredulity 11,682]

[TexasHooch 5,125]

Oh my God.

 

[4th&Five 41,579]

Just evil. If they could put them in a work camp and get away with it they would. You know, like Jesus taught!

[Biff Tannen 45,702]

Just now, 4th&Five said:

Just evil. If they could put them in a work camp and get away with it they would. You know, like Jesus taught!

They may very well try. 

[mdmost 43,016]

But hey, at least they owned the libs which is all that matters. This is right out of the Trump playbook. Sow dissent and create confusion. Set up the migrants in an unwinnable situation. 

Edited September 16, 2022 by mdmost

[aggie08 21,514]

So many people taking pride in being absolute pieces of garbage. Embarrassing and disheartening.

Seriously, fuck politics and memes for 3 seconds and take a look in a mirror for fuck's sake.

[tx 3 putt 77,287]

hopefully this all swings some votes in his race, against him 

[aggie08 21,514]

2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

hopefully this all swings some votes in his race, against him 

In Florida? No. Assholes from all over are flocking there daily because this shit gets them hard.

When he runs for President? We'll see.

[Grade of D as in David 13,253]

18 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

Oh my God.

 

Can we just trade with Venezuela? For every 50 migrants we take in they have to take one shitty maga politician.

[Satchel 6,941]

One wonders if these two “Christian” governors think Jesus will give them a pass if they make him understand the godliness of placing law over love?

[Celery Man 20,991]

19 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

Oh my God.

 

again - cheerleading or dismissing or even apologizing for this evil cannot be reconciled with the teachings of Christ and there is no such thing as a decent person who thinks this is OK in any way. Our country would be so much better if we could replace every piece of shit cheerleading this stunt with a random migrant.

[A-Tex Devil 2,456]

Yeah fuck anyone that thinks this is funny or an effective point. DeSantis doesn’t believe these were human beings nor does anyone that even remotely defends it. 

[TexasHooch 5,125]

This is a really good thread for context to what's happening that I wasn't aware of. 

 

[TexasHooch 5,125]

Follow the money.

 

[WhatTheBuck 28,796]

47 minutes ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Yeah fuck anyone that thinks this is funny or an effective point. DeSantis doesn’t believe these were human beings nor does anyone that even remotely defends it. 

I’ve said before that no decent person supports Donald Trump. Now I can say that no decent person supports Ron DeSantis. They may deceive you into thinking they’re decent people because they don’t mistreat YOU. But watch your back because deep down they’re not decent people.

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

14 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

Follow the money.

 

Glad someone did the research, because it sure seemed that way...

On 9/15/2022 at 2:37 PM, Mrs Whiggins said:

In addition to fundraising off of the political grandstanding w/immigrants, is anyone else curious as to whether they're laundering money or in some way funneling the tax dollars through the bus charters and back into their own pockets?

 

[bolverk 29,707]

54 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

This is a really good thread for context to what's happening that I wasn't aware of. 

 

Thread unrolled. It's too important of a message to get lost.

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I volunteer as a translator with asylees coming through the Texas border and I wanted to make a thread on who these migrants are, what help is actually needed and why what DeSantis and Abbott are doing is so needlessly cruel.

Everyone is talking about it, but so few understand 
WHO ARE THESE IMMIGRANTS?

The first and most important thing you should understand, these are LEGAL asylum seekers. They are not illegals. They are not undocumented.

They have been given permission by our government to enter the US pending their official court date. 
The law ONLY requires that asylum seekers be present on US soil and that they present themselves to officials to request asylum.

That is it.

Anyone who calls them illegal immigrants is really telling on themselves and deliberately trying to confuse the issue. 
Once they present themselves to border officials, they are processed and then given a court date to officially plead their case.

This court date is almost always a year away and in a major city far from the border, like Boston, NY, Miami, Chicago, etc. 
You can always spot the asylum seekers coming out of detention facilities because they don't have shoelaces (story for another day) and they have court papers in one hand.

Another thing I would note, the Biden admin is STILL immediately deporting the vast majority of asylees. 
The folks that make it through come from the most harrowing conditions you can imagine. I have met whole families who had to flee El Salvador on foot because gangs threatened to kill them if their son did not join.

I met a man who was attacked by police for leading a protest. 
In almost every case, these are smart, hard working CHRISTIAN refugees. Their ability to assimilate into America and thrive is limitless. They love America. They just want a chance to live and thrive in peace. 
WHAT HELP DO THEY NEED?

Because these groups already have court dates and in almost every case, they have family they can stay with, they only really need two things: short term food and shelter and transportation.

And I mean short term. Usually less than 12 hours. 
In most cases, these asylees only need help getting to the bus station and maybe a bite to eat while they wait. Sometimes they need to stay overnight until the next bus leaves and sometimes they need help buying a ticket, though family usually buys the ticket for them. 
Border towns and local non profits have been dealing with this for 4 years. This did not start with Biden. It was actually worse under Trump.

But these areas already know what to do with these transient asylees and they already have the resource networks in place to manage them 
In most cases, an asylee will leave detention and organizations like Catholic Charities are right there to greet them and figure out if they can go straight to the bus station or if they need temporary shelter.

Local municipalities & non profits here have gotten real good at it 
WHY IS "BUSSING" ASYLEES AROUND THE COUNTRY SO BAD?

Initially, I didn't complain too much about Abbott's decision to bus immigrants because it actually helped them.

It gave them a free ticket to get closer to family. And they weren't being forced to go.

But.... 
The problem with Abbott's approach is that they are often lying to the migrants about where they are going and what will be waiting for them.

And even worse, when they get to NY or DC, Abbott is deliberately choosing to drop them off far away from the resources they need. 
Abbott could easily notify DC that they are coming and then he could drop the migrants off right at the doorstep of the bus station or non-profit ready to greet them. It would cost him nothing.

But he is choosing to dump them where it harms the City and migrants the most. 
By dumping them in front of the VPs house, like he did this week, now local officials have to figure out, without any notice, how to get 50 people in the heart of the City out to where the resources are ready to receive them. 
And what DeSantis did yesterday takes it up another notch. He deliberately lied to immigrants in Texas who were already being managed by non-profits and shipped them into MV where no one was ready to help them. It was deliberately cruel and created to maximize pain. 
Credit to the people of Martha's Vineyard who stepped up in a huge way and responded. They did exactly what they were supposed to: they took care of their immediate needs and helped them get on their way.

What folks here in Texas have been doing for years. 
If Abbott and DeSantis actually cared about helping relieve the burden created by asylum seekers, they could just as easily and far more cost-effectively funnell the millions they are spending on their cynical stunt and give it to the non profits already doing the job. 
Do asylees create a burden on border communities?

Sure. But it is a burden we have already learned how to manage and the only thing we really need is more resources.

It would be far more effective to just buy migrants a sandwich and a bus ticket than a private plane to MV. 
This is the kind of deliberate misinformation Conservatives are being fed.

These migrants SHOULDN'T stay in MV because they have family and court dates in other places.

They were TRICKED into being there.

Here is a short story on what organizations like Catholic Charities are doing to help

You will find no better Christians then the folks working to accept, love and support asylum seekers

"That which ye have done to the least of these..."

https://www-kgns-tv.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.kgns.tv/2021/09/21/catholic-charities-laredo-prepares-incoming-migrants-del-rio-crisis/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&outputType=amp&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=16633573563334&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kgns.tv%2F2021%2F09%2F21%2Fcatholic-charities-laredo-prepares-incoming-migrants-del-rio-crisis%2F

 

Fuck every single one of you applauding this stunt.

[Satchel 6,941]

1 hour ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Yeah fuck anyone that thinks this is funny or an effective point. DeSantis doesn’t believe these were human beings nor does anyone that even remotely defends it. 

Wonder how he would react to Biden granting amnesty to all asylum seekers moved around the country by him and other Republican governors? There’s already precedent for doing something similar to this.

[Dutchrudder 11,150]

1 hour ago, TexasHooch said:

Oh my God.

 

This is incredibly cruel. Lying to the migrants about who, what, where and why they are getting on a plane? Making them miss court dates due to being in the wrong state? Giving them false hope, and using their hunger as a way to gain trust? It's just downright deplorable. 

How the fuck does that manufactured situation have anything to do with the border crisis?  

[TexasHooch 5,125]

4 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Wonder how he would react to Biden granting amnesty to all asylum seekers moved around the country by him and other Republican governors? There’s already precedent for doing something similar to this.

Amnesty for what? There's zero indication that they've done anything wrong- quite the contrary.

 

Edited September 16, 2022 by TexasHooch
I suppose many of them are involuntarily missing court dates.

[Sawbonz 27,583]

1 hour ago, TexasHooch said:

Oh my God.

 

Did I hear correctly that DHS officials had to sign paperwork before these people got on the planes, and that the DHS officials falsified information on those forms? Seems it should be pretty easy to figure out who filled out the forms

[Satchel 6,941]

5 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

This is incredibly cruel. Lying to the migrants about who, what, where and why they are getting on a plane? Making them miss court dates due to being in the wrong state? Giving them false hope, and using their hunger as a way to gain trust? It's just downright deplorable. 

How the fuck does that manufactured situation have anything to do with the border crisis?  

Fair point. Amnesty is the wrong term. How about an updated, targeted wet foot, dry foot policy crafted in the image and likeness of the 1966 policy that governed Cuban asylum seekers? 

7 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

Amnesty for what? There's zero indication that they've done anything wrong- quite the contrary.

 

Fair point. Amnesty is the wrong term. How about an updated, targeted wet foot, dry foot policy crafted in the image and likeness of the 1966 policy that governed Cuban asylum seekers? 

[chainsaw 9,873]

5 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Did I hear correctly that DHS officials had to sign paperwork before these people got on the planes, and that the DHS officials falsified information on those forms? Seems it should be pretty easy to figure out who filled out the forms

rogue officials

[High Plains Drifter 11,050]

4 hours ago, Poe It Up said:

This last stint in Surly jail has reformed me. I’m currently out on good behavior, so it’s going to have to be gifs until my probation is over. 

 

go fuck yourself

 

 

[WhatTheBuck 28,796]

38 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Thread unrolled. It's too important of a message to get lost.

Fuck every single one of you applauding this stunt.

Let me clean up that link.

https://www.kgns.tv/2021/09/21/catholic-charities-laredo-prepares-incoming-migrants-del-rio-crisis/

[Js1 85,494]

 

[YGIFS 19,452]

This is by far, the most bizarre attempt to get mileage status with an airline.  

[Bozo_Casanova 26,521]

8 hours ago, ousuxndallas said:

NIMBY says the MV residents.

Naw, but it's true when you try to build apartments tho

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

Think of the places you'll go if this man runs and wins in 2024. The sky is the limit.

Or perhaps not. Space Force!

 

 

Thanks for posting the asylum/immigrant explanation upthread.

[DDD Dad 14,346]

I guess this goes here. 
 

 

[WhatTheBuck 28,796]

1 hour ago, Satchel said:

Wonder how he would react to Biden granting amnesty to all asylum seekers moved around the country by him and other Republican governors? There’s already precedent for doing something similar to this.

Find a couple of them, grant them citizenship, and security clearances, give them offices in the White House with staffs and budgets and the title of “Special Adviser to the President.” They’d have to be at least as qualified as Jared and Ivanka. 

[Satchel 6,941]

1 minute ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Find a couple of them, grant them citizenship, and security clearances, give them offices in the White House with staffs and budgets and the title of “Special Adviser to the President.” They’d have to be at least as qualified as Jared and Ivanka. 

Yeah, that would put a stop to all this bussin’ and flyin’ in a nanosecond.

[chainsaw 9,873]

4 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Yeah, that would put a stop to all this bussin’ and flyin’ in a nanosecond.

Even better, there's a ton of detention centers in TX and FL. He can pardon and release a number of detainees equal to (or fuck it double) the number of people used as props in these stunts. Turn it into a televised town hall where he can learn about what they've gone through.

[TexasHooch 5,125]

This is going to get real interesting, real fast.

 

[Dutchrudder 11,150]

1 hour ago, Satchel said:

Fair point. Amnesty is the wrong term. How about an updated, targeted wet foot, dry foot policy crafted in the image and likeness of the 1966 policy that governed Cuban asylum seekers? 

Fair point. Amnesty is the wrong term. How about an updated, targeted wet foot, dry foot policy crafted in the image and likeness of the 1966 policy that governed Cuban asylum seekers? 

Amnesty is not the solution, don't reward these poor people for winning the Desantis lottery. They deserve humane treatment, a chance to be heard in court (assuming they can't make the hearings) and any other accomodations that would be reasonable. They are victims of a scam here, but thankfully the people of Massachusetts are willing to sort it out. 

[Satchel 6,941]

1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

Even better, there's a ton of detention centers in TX and FL. He can pardon and release a number of detainees equal to (or fuck it double) the number of people used as props in these stunts. Turn it into a televised town hall where he can learn about what they've gone through.

The cherry on top would volunteers who would help them fill out their new voter registration cards!

[YGIFS 19,452]

1 minute ago, TexasHooch said:

This is going to get real interesting, real fast.

 

Yes, well...I'm very much in the know.  But for others here...can you explain...real slow...that is a WIX fee, what do they mean by human trafficking vendor, and what about the website now?  Thanks.

[chainsaw 9,873]

Just now, Satchel said:

The cherry on top would volunteers who would help them fill out their new voter registration cards!

I don't think he can grant citizenship like that, but he can relieve someone from any federal government punishment or fine.

[Sawbonz 27,583]

3 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

This is going to get real interesting, real fast.

 

The guys who run that company are going to go through some things

[chainsaw 9,873]

Just now, Sawbonz said:

The guys who run that company are going to go through some things

play stupid games win stupid prizes

[Underdog 28,765]

Hurricane season coming up, know it won't happen but be nice to have Biden drop a Gerry Ford "drop dead" on floriduh should a hurricane hit them.